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LOK SABHA 
DEBATES 


(Fifth Series) 


Vol. XVIll 


[ August 14 to August 28, 1972/Sravana 23 to Bhadry 6, 1894 (Saka)} 



Fifth Session, 1972/1894 (Saks) 


(Vol. XV III contains Nos, 11—20 ) 


LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT 
NEW DELHI 



CONTENTS 


[Fifth Series— Vol XVIII , 5th Session, 1972] 

No. 1 1 — Monday. August 14, \m;Sravana 2.1. 1 894 (Saka) 


Obituary Reference — 

Death of Shrimati Minimata 

Agamdius Guru . 


Columns 

1-10 

Shrimati Indira Gandhi 

• 


1-2 

Shri Dasaratha Deb 



2-3 

Shri S M. Banerjee 



3 

Shri G. Viswanathan 


• 

3-4 

Shri Tagannathrao losln . 


f 

4 

Shu Shyamnandan Mishra 

. 

» 

4-5 

Piof Madhu Dandavate 

. 


5 

Shn Ebiahim Sulaiman Sail 

. 


5 

Shri Arvind Nctam . 

. 

• 

6 

Shri R. S Pandey 



6-7 

Dr Ciovind Das 



7 

Shri R. D Bhandare 


• 

7-8 

Shri "Shrikrishna Agaiwal 


. 

8 

Shri Ramkanwar. 



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LOK SABHA DEBATES 


I 

LOK SABHA 


Monday* August 14. I912lbrauwa 23, 
1894 (Saka) 

l he Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the 
Clock. 

[Mu. Snt'AKtR in the Chan] 
OBITUARY REFERENC E 

MR SPEAKER: Honourable ment- 
hols, I have to inform the House of the 
tragjc dernnse of S'hnmatt Mmimatu 
\gam Dass Gum who passed avvav in 
an ail crash near Delhi on the night of 
Nth August 1972. at the age of % 

Shnmuli Again Da^s Guiu was a 
silting member ol lok Sabha Irom 
lanjgu constituency ol Madhya Pri- 
desh. She had also been a member of 
I ii si. Second. 1 bird and Fouilh lok 
Sabha from 1953 to 1970. She was so 
calm and gentle and was respected In 
one and all. Coming from the back- 
ward stiata of our society, during her 
long membership of Lok Sabha. she 
always championed the cause of Hari- 
jans, women and depressed classes and 
spoke tor eradication of social evils like 
the dowiy system, child marriage and 
untouchabihty . Whenever she took part 
m the proceedings, she used to impress 
the House very much by hei dedication 
lo her ideals and sincciity in her ap- 
proach. She was associated with a 
number of social welfaic and educatio- 
nal institutions m her State 

We deeply mourn her loss and I am 
sure the House will lom me in convey- 
ing our condolences to the bereaved 
family. 

THE PRIME MINISTER, {lINIS- 
IER OF ATOMIC ENERGY. MINIS- 
TER OF ELECTRONICS, MINISTER 
OF HOME AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF 
INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- 
ING AND MINISTER OF SPACE 
IfSHRIMAT I INDIRA GANDHI) : 
[Sir, this is a sad occasion for us all and 
points once again to the uncertainty of 
life. 


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Shrimati Minimata was a fine example 
of Indian womanhood. Jl was my privi- 
lege to know her closely for many years 
Soft-spoken and dignified, simple in her 
habits, yet firm in her convictions and 
effective in her work, she was an un- 
failing champion of the cause of the 
weak and the downtrodden. She com- 
manded the respect of this House and 
of the public for her sincerity, her ear- 
nestness of purpose and sense of 
dedication. She had been, as you, Sir, 
have mentioned, a Member of Parlia- 
ment for 20 years and was the senior- 
most woman Member. 

Although one <jf the quieter members, 
she was articulate on subjects which 
interested her, aifc her participation in 
discussions was always impressive and 
to the point. 

She was equally active in work in her 
c mstituency, as iegai ds various problems 
ol Madhya Pradesh, the problems of 
evils which exist in our society and 
those of the Scheduled Castes and 
Scheduled Tribes all over the country. 

Death is always sorrowful but u is 
specially so on this occasion when it 
has come so suddenly and in suen a 
giuesome manner. Shrimati Minimata 
was commg to Delhi to be with us today 
and tomorrow to join the 25th anouer- 
sar> functions 

Her demise is a loss to Parliament 
and to us all. 1 feel it as a personal 
loss. We are all deeply grieved and 
i equest you, Str, to convey our condo- 
lences to her family. 

SHRI DASARATHA DEB (Tripura 
Fust) : This is a very sad occasion and 
on behalf of my Party, the Communist 
Party of India (Marxist) and on my 
behalf, I fully associate myself* with the 
sentiments of deep sorrow expressed by 
the Prime Minister and you at the tragic 
death of .Shrimati Minimata Again Dass 
Guru, a Member of this House smee 
1953. 

1 happen to know Shrimati Mmim ita 
very closely as we were neighbour 
while 1 was staving in North Avenue 


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Obituary Reference 


AUGUST U, 1972 


Obituary Reference 


4 


IShn Dasaratha Deb] 
from 1953 to J 961 - She was very allec- 
tionate to the children also and she 
worked among the Scheduled Castes and 
Scheduled Tribes and Hanjans parti- 
cularly. 

As far as l know, she was a veteran 
social worker, confining hci woik main- 
ly to the backward classes people, and 
her death is a great loss to the country 

] request you to convey our deep con- 
dolences to the beieaved larnily of 
Shrimati Minimata. 

SHRJ S M. BANERJEE (Kanpur): 
Mr. Speaker, Sir, 1 knew Shrimati 
Minimata since the day I entered Parlia- 
ment m 1957. To me, she was an em- 
blem of simplicity Her heart bled lor 
the common man, specially lor those 
who are downtrodden and whom society 
has not given a proper'place even today 

She was connected vfilh so many wel- 
fare organisations I remember how 
when in this House the question of atro- 
cities on Harijan women came up, she 
reacted. I also remember when less 
time was given for discussion ol the 
Reports of the Commissioner lor Sche- 
duled C astes and Scheduled 1 nbes. 
though a calm lady, an emblem ol 
patience, she rose to the height and 
demanded more discussion. 

It is most unfortunate she did not 
meet a natural death. It reminds me ol 
the tragic and untimely death of the 
Member for Kanpur, the late lamented 
Shn Hanharnath Shastri, in similar 
circumstances 

On behalf of my Party and on my 
own behalf, I express my heartfelt con- 
dolences and request you to kindly 
convey the same to the family of 
Shrimati Minimata. 

SHRI G VISWANATHAN (Wandi- 
wash) . It is a sad occasion that on this 
25th amiiversaiy of our independence, 
we have lost one of our seniormost 
members 

We hav^ had many occasions to work 
with Shrimati Minimata in various capa- 
cities in the House and outside and in 
committee meetings. The fact that she 
was elected for five consecutive terms 
from the same constituency to this 
House shows her popularity and in- 
fluence among the public, particularly 
the tribal areas. 


On behalf of my- Party and on my 
own behalf, I associate myself with the 
deep sorrow expressed by you and re- 
quest you to convey our condolences to 
the bereaved family. 

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(Rajapur) Mr. Speaker, Sir. all death 
is sad but the pangs of death become 
more sorrowful when the death comes 
in such a gruesome manna. Here was 
a lady who tried to end the trageuy of 
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and women, but the tragedy of her hie 
was that the end ol her hie itself was 
a tragedy. I am sure that even one m 
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traditions that were laid down bv the 
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On behalf of the Socialist Parly, I 
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to convey the condolences to the mem- 
bcis of the bereaved family. 

SHR1 EBRAH1M SU LAI MAN SAI I 
(Kozhikode) : Mi. Speaker, Sn. 1 asso- 
ciate myself with the sentiments of grid 
and sorrow expressed by yourself, the 
Prune Minister and other colleagues m 
this House on the sad demise of 
Shrimatt Mimmata in tragic circumstan- 
ces. Wc all know very well that she 
was a lady of admirable qualities: she 
was dignitied, modest and simple and 
served the depressed and the downtrod- 
den with earnestness and zeal. Her 
passing away is a great loss not only 
to the backward classes but to the 
country as a whole. 

i* 

I convey to the bereaved family, 
through you, our deep sympathies, and 
on my behalf and on behalf of my 
Group, the Muslim League, I lequest 
you to convey our feelings of sorrow 
and grief to the members of the bereav- 
ed family. 


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SHKI R. D BH AND ARE (Bom b.iv 
( entral) . Mr. Speaker, Sir, we deeply 
mourn the death of Shrimuti Mimmata, 
a leltgious head of the Satnami sect of 
the Hindu community. It is true that 
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souls, who have 'always served the com- 
m unity, pass away in a tragic manner, 
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trom amongst us wc have lost a burn- 
ing fire and light which used to guide 
the down-trodden and under-privileged. 
She was a great social worker, as men- 
tioned by the Pf nnc Minister, and by 


you. Sir, and by other hon. Members. 
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justice, Since she was serving the com- 
munity her soul is bound to rest in 
peace. I pay my humble tribute and 
homage to her. 

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Obituary Reference 


SRAVANA 23, 1 894 (S AKA) Obituaty Reference JO 


MR. SPEAKER : As a mark of res- 
pect lo Ivor memory, the House will stand 
in silence foi a short while, 

Menihas then .stood in silence fot a 
a hotiw kite 

MR. SPEAKER : In view of the 
death of Shnmati Minimata under very 
tragic circumstances, which we all heard 
with great shock, in view also of the 
fact that she is one of the oldest mem- 
bers of our Lok Sabfta, associated with 
all the Lok Sabhas after 1952, as desir- 
ed by many friends and hon. Members 
of this House, 1 propose to adjourn the 
House now' as a mark of sorrow and 
respect lo her memory 


AN HON MEMBER : What about 
the function m the Central Hall? 

MR. SPEAKER , I hat will be theie. 
Of course, we ha\e cut out all the other 
programmes except the speeches by the 
President, Vice-President, Prime Minis- 
ter and myself. The cultural pro- 
gramme, dinner etc. have been cancelled 
fhe programme in the Central Hall for 
one hour starting at 1 1 p.m will be 
ihere. We will now adjourn till 11 am 
on Wednesday 

11.25 hrs. 

7 he Lok Sahhu then adjoin net! till 
Lleven of the Clock on Wednesday , 
August 16, (972 ' Havana 25, 1894 

Saka), 




CONTENTS 


No. 12 — Wednesday , August 16, 1972/Sravana 25 % 1894 (Saka) 


Columns 


Welcome to Speaker of Fiji b # 1 

Oral Answers to Questions — 

•Starred Questions Nos. 223 to 228, 231, 232, 234 and 235 . . 1—26 

Written Answers to Questions — 

Starred Questions Nos. 201 to 222, 229, 230, 233 and 236 to 240 . . 26—46 

Unstarrcd Questions Nos. 1980 to 2049, 2051 to 2067, 2069 to 2121* 2123 
to 2184, 2186, 2187, 2189 to 2215, 2217 to 2253, 2255 to 2^0 and 
2352 to 2379 . , 46—309 

Re. Motion for Adjournment * ^ # 309 16 

Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance — 

Reported failure of the Government to complete Farakka Barrage, 

as scheduled b # 317 — 43 

Re. Presentation of Tamra Patras to Freedom Fighters . . 343 — 44 

Re. Business of the House p b 344 — 46 

Papers laid on the Table . . 346 — 51 

Statement correcting answer to S. Q. No. 14 re. behaviour of Doctors in 

Delhi Hospitals towards victims of a car accident . , 351 

Shri lima Shankar Dikshit # # 351 

Statement re. Crash of an Indian Airlines Fokker Friendship Aircraft 

near Palam Airport on 11.8.1972 . . 351 — 53 

Dr. Karan Singh . . 352 — 53 


Indian Iron and Steel Company (Taking over of Management) Bill — 

Introduced . . 353 — 54 

Statement re. Indian Iron and Steel Company (Taking Over of Manage- 
ment) Ordinance, 1972 . . 354 — 55 

Shri Shahnawaz Khan . . 354 

Disturbed Areas (Special Courts) Bill — 

Motion to refei to Joint Committee — Adopted . . 355 — 58 

Income-tax (Amendment) Bill- 

Motion to consider . . 358 — 65 

ShriR. V. Bade *• . / 358-61 

Shri N. K. P. Salve . . 361—64 

Shri K. Baladhandayutham . . 365 

Motion re. Separate Central Schemes for Development of Backwaid Areas . , 365—409 

Shri Nathu Ram Ahirwar • . 366 — 73 


•The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually 
asked on the floor of the House by that Member. 




Columns 


Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu ■ • d/o— /» 

Shri P. Venkatasubbaiah • • 379 

Shri P. K. Deo • • ■ 382—85 

Shri Dinesh Chandra Gosw ami •• 87 

Shri Jhaikhande Rai 387—92 

Shri K. D. Malaviya • • 392—94 

Shri B. K. Daschowdhury • • 394—97 

Shri D. N. Tiwary • • 399—403 

Shri R. R. Sharma •• 403—06 

Shri Chiotamani Panigrahi ■ • ^ 

^alf-an-Hour Discussion — 

Normalisation of relations with China • • 20 

Shri Samar Guha * * 409—13 

Shri Swaran Singh * * ^ ^ 



LOK SABHA DEBATES 


1 

LOK SABHA 


Wednesday, August 16, 1972/Sravana 25, 1894 
(Saka) 


The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock . 

[Mr. Speaker in the Chair ] 

WELCOME TO SPEAKER OF FIJI 

MR. SPEAKER : I have great pleasure 
in welcoming in the Special Box the Hon’ble 
Speaker, Mr. R D. Patel, of the House of 
Representatives of Fiji. As you know, Fiji 
got its independence the year before last year. 
He is the first Speaker of independent Fiji. 
He is our distinguished guest. I, on behalf of 
you all, again extend to him a very hearty 
welcome, and also to Madam Patel who is 
also present along with him in the Special 
Box I wish him a very happy stay in this 
country. This is his old country and we 
assure him that we treat him as one of us. 

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 

Accumulation of Wealth by Class I and 
Class D Officers of the Central Govern- 
ment 

*223. SHRI S. N. MISRA : Will the 
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of searches and seizures 
made in 1970-71 and 1971-72 in respect of 
Class I and Class II Officers of the Central 
Government about their suspected accumula- 
tion of wealth by corrupt means ; and 

(b) whether properties and assets of any 
of these officers have been confiscated ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and (b). 
Searches and seizures were made in 12 instan- 
ces in 1970-71 and in 25 instances in 1971-72 
during investigation into allegations of suspec- 
ted accumulation of wealth by corrupt means 
hy Glass I and Claw II Officers, including 


2 

officers of the Public Undertakings under the 
Central Government. No property or assets 
of the officers concerned were confiscated. 

SHRI S. N. MISRA : May I know from 
the hon. Minister how many of them were 
Class I, how many of them were Class II and 
how many of them were from the Public 
Undertakings ? Also, I want to know what 
was the amount seized from them. Arc the 
proceedings pending against them, how many 
of them have be<?n removed from service or 
what steps have ^een taken against them ? 

SHRI RAJ^ NIWAS MIRDHA : The 
supplementary is almost a full question. 

As regards certain facts the hon. Member 
wanted to know, in 1970-71, there were 12 
cases of such seizures and out of these 12, 
Class I officers were ten and Class II officers 
were two. In 1971-72 there were 25 such 
instances of which Class I officers were 14 and 
Class II officers were 11. 

As regards the other information, I would 
need notice for that. 

SHRI S. N. MISRA : It has been indi- 
cated that certain steps were taken and 
recoveries were made from public undertak- 
ings officers. But that has not been mentio- 
ned here in the numbers given by the hon. 
Minister. 

SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : As 
regards the number of officers from public 
undertakings, as I said, I would need notice. 

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SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : For a long time 
we have been hearing of accumulation of 
movable and immovable wealth by the ICS 
and IAS officers attached to various States, 
and we have brought these things, on several 
occasions, to the notice of the Government. 
I would like to know whether there are any 
instances of ICS and IAS officers accumula- 
ting huge wealth by way of holding immova- 
ble property and constructing palatial build- 
ings not only in Delhi but also in every 
Capital city. If such instances have been 
brought to the notice of the Government, I 
would also like to reveal certain instances. 
An ex-I.C.S. officer . . 

MR. SPEAKER : Please do not mention 
the name. 

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : He was a Class I 
officer and he wa9 involved in the accumula- 
tion of wealth. 

MR. SPEAKER : I am not going to 
allow mention of names of persons who are 
not here to defend themselves. . 

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : All right. Sir ; I 
will not give the names. Are there instances 
of ICS and IAS officers accumulating 
wealth.. 

MR. SPEAKER : Please sit down. You 
have put your question. 

SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : I think 


it is very unfair on the part of the hon. 
Member to make such sweeping remarks 
about the whole class of officers. Government 
has not hesitated to inquire into cases and 
even punish persons belonging to ICS and 
IAS. The instances have been mentioned in 
the House from time to time. If the hon. 
Member wants to know of any particular 
inquiry or any particular allegation against 
any particular officer, I can give him infor- 
mation separately. 

Song and Drama Division’s Artistes’ 
Rally 

*224. SHRI ARJUN SETHI : Will the 
Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- 
CASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether about 250 artistes of the 
Song and Drama Division of the All-India 
Radio led a rally to the Prime Minister’s 
residence to press their demands which include 
among other things, all the facilities enjoyed 
by A. I. R. staff ; and 

(b) if so, Government’s reaction thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. A number of artistes of 
the Song and Drama Division went in a 
group to the residence of the Prime Minister 
and presented a memorandum in which the 
demand referred to was made inter alia. The 
Song and Drama Division is, however, not a 
part of the All India Radio, but a separate 
organisation directly under the Ministry of 
Information and Broadcasting. 

(b) While the grievances of the ai tistes are 
and will continue to be considered sympathe- 
tically in discussion with their representatives 
the conditions in which they have to function 
being quite different from those in which the 
artistes of the All India Radio function it may 
not be possible to equate the facilities made 
available to these two groups of artistes. 

SHRI ARJUN SETHI : While answer- 
ing my question, the hon. Minister has men- 
tioned that the conditions in which they have 
to function are different from those of the 
AIR artistes. So, I want to know what are 
the different conditions in which both the 
groups of artistes work and for what reason the 
latter group is not entitled to get the benefits. 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI I. K. GUJRAL) a 



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6 


When it is said that the conditions are not 
the same, it also in some cases means that the 
conditions are harder. Therefore, they may 
need better consideration because they work 
under two different sets of circumstances. 
Therefore, it is wrong to equate them and I 
think the problems of the staff artistes working 
under the Song and Drama Division should 
be dealt with separately. 

SHRI ARJUN SETHI : I would like to 
know whether the Government have received 
any complaint from the recognised Groups of 
the Song and Drama Division regarding the 
reduction of remuneration and insufficient 
programmes and programmes in an inconve- 
nient manner. 

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : So far as the 
recognised Groups arc concerned, there arc 
complaints tf^at the remuneration paid is not 
sufficient which I think does need examina- 
tion which we are going to do because it is 
very important that the Song and Drama 
Division should function and should encou- 
rage their registered Groups, particularly, the 
professional and amateur Groups functioning 
in various parts of the country. 

SHRI S. M. BANE RJ EE s I am happy 
that the hon. Minister has realised that these 
boys and girls who are working in the Song 
and Drama Division have to work in great 
difficulties because they have to go to the 
border areas. So, I would like to know in 
case the facilities enjoyed by the AIR are not 
applicable to them, whether a committee is to 
be set up to review their wages and work- 
ing conditions and whether a separate com- 
mittee is needed because they are not covered 
under the Pay Commission. I would like to 
know whether any committee is being set up. 

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : So far as pay 
and allowances are concerned, originally we 
referred it to the Pay Commission. The Pay 
Commission has now told ub that it does not 
fall within their purview. It is important 
that the rationalisation of the pay structure 
should be studied and undertaken. It is going 
to be done very soon. Their conditions must 
be studied within the Song and Drama Division 
itself. There are three sets of Groups — 

Troops Central, the Border Publicity 
Groups and the Family Planning Groups ; and 
even with regard to the service structure 
there arc differentiations and I am keen that 
rationalisation should take place in such a 
way that everyone gets equal pay for equal 
type of job or the same type of job done. 


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SHRI ANANTRAO PATIL : May I 
know from the Minister whether the artistes 
belonging to the Song and Drama Division 
have submitted t*eir demands to the Head of 
the Department. 

SHRI I. K. tUJRAL : They had sub- 
mitted 10 demands out of which on five 
demands, action has already been initiated 
and the rest are under consideration. 

Issue of Licences to Birla, Sahu Jain and 
Tatas 

*225. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will 
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state the nature and 
value of licences given to the Birla Group of 
Industries, Sahu Jain Group and Tata 
Industries, separately, during the last three 
years for setting up of new industries and for 
expansion of the existing industries ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
A statement showing the number of Indust- 
rial licences for the setting up of new indus- 
tries and effecting substantial expansion issued 
to the Birla, Sahujain and Tata Groups dur- 
ing the last three years is laid on the Table 
of the House. Industrial licences are generally 
issued for specific capacities rather than for 
specific values. 


Statement • 



1969 

1970 

1971 

GROUP 

N.U. S.E. 

N.U. S.E. N.U. S.E. 

Birla 

— 5 

— 1 — 3 

Sahujain 

Tata 

— 1 

— 1 

— 1 


N. U. : Stands for New Undertaking. 

S. E. : Stands for Substantial Expansion. 



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8 


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MR. SPEAKER : These are all sugges- 
tions for action. 

SHRI INDRAJ IT GUPTA : It is seen 
from the statement that in the course of these 
3 years, 9 licences were given to Birlas for 
effecting substantial expansion. I would like 
to know the npmes of these companies or 
undertakings of the Birlas. Is it within the 
capacity of the existing plants or is the 
; expansion going to be by way of setting up 
new plants belonging to the parent company ? 

SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD : Subs- 
tantial expansion means expansion of capa- 
city of the established plants ; it it not a new 
undertaking. It is not meant for manufacture 


of new articles. The names are : Bally Jute 
Go. Ltd ; Orient General Industries ; Soorah 
Jute mills ; Birla Jute Manufacturing Go. 
Ltd ; Saurashtra Chemicals ; Eastern Spinning 
Mills ; National Engineering Industry ; pobind 
Sugar Mills ; Textile Machinery Corporation. 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Substantial 
expansion is given for increasing capacity of 
the existing plants. This is what the Minister 
said. Birla Jute Company to which reference 
was made has several plants which have 
nothing to do with jute. The Birla Jute 
Company has on hand several other progra- 
mmes which have nothing to do with jute, 
but under a common signboard, of Birla 
Jute Company, they make substantial 
expansion. 

SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD : 
The office of Birla Jute Company is located 
in 15, India Exchange Place, Calcutta. 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- 
NIAM) : There have been expansions in jute 
manufactuiing, particularly jute carpet-back- 
ing cloth for purposes of export. There has 
been expansion of these carpetbacking plants. 

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licences are extended, more responsibilities 
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grateful if you could kindly ask the hon. 
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9 


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Oral Annum 


10 


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SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA : 
The hon. Minister has been pleased to say 
and it is quite evident from the statement 
laid on the Table of the House also that 
these licences are only for substantial expan- 
sion ; that means that since licences have 
been granted for substantial expansion of the 
existing units, they would increase the share of 
those firms in the total product. That means, 
again, concentration of economic power or 
the increase of the monopoly element of that 
firm. How does Government account for this 
departure from policy ? 

SHRI G. SUBRAMANIAM : There is 
the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices 
Act, and the Monopolies Commission goes 
into it. Whenevei the company is a dominant 
company manufacturing certain articles to a 
certain extent, expansion or new unit is not 
allowed to them. But in these cases they are 
not dominant producers. 

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA : 
My question has not been answered. If you 
increase the ihare of a firm in the total 
product, that means the increase of the mono- 
poly element of that fiim in that product. 
That is the main point. 

SHRI G. SUBRAMANIAM : The mono- 
poly element would come in only if they are 
the dominant producers. There are other 
producers also, and, therefore, it will not 
become a monopoly. But I do agree that this 
will increase their production, but that is 
taken care of. It is only for specific reasons, 
namely for increasing the export, for example, 
of jute carpet backing cloth which is intended 
mainly for export, that we had to allow it 
even though it may be a bigger house. 

Proposal for Setting up of Film Council 

*226. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- 
THAM i Will the Minister of INFORMA- 
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased 


to state : 

(a) whether the Centre had sought Chief 
Ministers' views on the proposal to set up a 
Film Council ; 

(b) whether the Chief Ministers have 
expressed their views, if so, the nature there- 
of ; and 

(c) decision taken by the Centre on the 
proposal ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) Replies from some States/Union 
Territories have been received. They have 
generally welcomed the idea of setting up the 
Film Council. * 

(c) The maffer is under active considera- 
tion of Government. 

SHRI S. A. MURUGANANTHAM x 
May I know whether the Chief Minister of 
Tamil Nadu has said in a public announce- 
ment that the Centre is not in favour of the 
formation of the Film Council ? Is there 
any substance in his apprehension ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI I. K. GUJRAL) : 
No. So far as I am concerned, so fai as our 
information goes, the Chief Minister has 
favoured the idea of setting up of the Film 
Council. 

SHRI S. A. MURUGAi^ANTHAM : 
My question was different. . . . 

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : It has not been 
brought to my notice that the Chief Minister 
is under the impression that we are not 
interested in setting up the Film Council. I 
have already talked to the Chief Minister 
himself, and the Chief Minister knows my 
views about it. 

SHRI S. A. MURUGANANTHAM : 
How long will it take to decide on the for- 
mation of the Council by the Centre? 

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : We are keen to 
do it very quickly, and I hope that it will be 
done very soon. 

SHRI N. K. SANGH1 : The formation 
o I the Council has been awaited for such a 
long time. Could the hon. Minister give an 
idea to the House of the type of formation or 



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AUGUST 16, 1972 


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12 


composition of this Council, and whether it 
will include politicians, and if so, what 
percentage of them will be politicians, and 
whether there will be representatives from the 
film industry and if so, how many ? 

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : My hon. friend 
would recall that I had detailed discussions 
with him and with his associations, and he 
knows my views about it. But I can assure 
him of one thing, namely that there is no 
intention to inject any politicians into the 
Film Council. 

AN. HON. MEMBER : What about the 
Chief Minister of Madras ? He is both a 
politician and an actor also ? 

DR. RANEN SEN : Is it a fact that the 
film producers of Eastern India wanted a 
separate film council for die eastern part of 

India and if so, what is the reaction of the 

0 , 

Government ? 

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL :*Thc film pro- 
ducer have been having different types of 
views from time to time. At one stage 
producers felt that there could be a separate 
council for producers only. Later on it was 
felt that perhaps zonalisation of that would 
be better But the idea of a film council is 
not to have producers only ; in the Film 
Council all interests concerned with film 
should be represented. 

Lack of Full Utilisation of Capacity in 
Small Sector due to Paucity of Funds 

+ 

*227. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : 

SHRI RAM SHEKHAR PRASAD 
SINGH . 

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL 
DE VELOPM ENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether small scale industries in the 
country could not fully utilise their produc- 
tion capacities and increase their level of 
production, even after the Bank Nationaliza- 
tion on account of paucity of funds and lack 
of Industiial credits ; and 

(b) if so, the steps Government propose 
to take in this regard ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) and (b). Following the Bank Nationalisa- 
tion there has been an increase in the flow 
of funds to the SSI Sector os also increase in 
production. However, Government will always 


endeavour to increase the tempo of investment 
and production in this sector to exploit its 
production to its fullest capacity. 

SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : May 
I know whether recently a survey was conduc- 
ted by 21 universities and premier research 
and academic institutions in the country for 
the banking commission, and if so whether 
the purpose of the survey was to study the 
credit needs and the problems of small scale 
industrial units and small artisans ? Have the 
Government examined the survey report and 
what steps have been taken or are likely to 
be taken to remove the difficulticf as stated 
in the survey report and how far are the 
Government ready to solve the problem ? 

SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD : I 
am not aware of any such survey report. 
However, we have generally been examining 
the problems of the small scale sector and 
from time to time we have been taking them 
up with the concerned department of the 
Government. 

SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : Is it a 
fact that mo»t of the sin ill-scale industries in 
Orissa have not been provided with sufficient 
funds and so they are not in a position to 
fulfil the conditions imposed by the nationalised 
banks, commercial banks and co-opcratives 
and are thus forced to borrow fiom non- 
institutional agencies ? If so may I know 
whether most of the complaints that have 
been made to the Centre are in regard to 
discrimination shown to the small- scale in- 
dustries units in Orissa ? How far have those 
complaints been looked into and what steps 
are being taken by the Centre to encourage 
the small-scale industries units in the State 7 

MR. SPEAKER : Instead of asking 
questions, he is giving information. 

SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD : We 
have not received any complaint from the 
Government of Orissa. 

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13 


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14 


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SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH : What 
was the total amount advanced by nationalised 
banks in Bihar to small-scale entrepreneurs 
before nationalisation and what is the amount 
advanced after nationalisation? Is the Minister 
aware of the wide-scale corruption prevailing 
among the employees of nationalised banks in 
Bihar because of this the small-scale entrepre- 
neurs are finding it difficult to approach them? 

• 

MR. SPEAKER : It is a general ques- 
tion which has been put. If the Minister has 
got this specific information, I have no 
objection. He says he has no information. 

SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH : The 
total amount of advances given to small-scale 
entrepreneurs in Bihar before nationalisation 
and the amount sanctioned since then — that 
is the information which the Minister ought 
to give. I do not know whether he is aware 
of the prevalence of corruption on a wide 
scale. 

MR. SPEAKER : You are asking a 
specific question. The hon. Minister can 
supply that information to you later on. 

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA : 
What percentage of the total requirements of 
raw material, particularly in respect of steel, 
is being met at the present moment ? 

SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD : The 
House is aware that there is a shortage of steel 
but we have made certain special allocations to 
the small-scale sector. It has recently come to 
our notice that though wc had made special 
allocations, some of the State Industrial 
Development corporations are not in a 
position to lift that steel and, therefore, it has 
created difficulties. 

Telephone connections to War Heroes* 
dependents on priority basis 

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*228. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : 

SHRI PURUSHOTTAM 
KAKODKAR : 

Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- 
TIONS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the dependents of war heroes 



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16 


have been included in the priority category 
for giving telephone connections ; 

(b) whether his Ministry has directed the 
General Manager of Telephone Districts not 
to insist on “Own Your Telephone” deposits 
from the war widows and other dependents of 
those killed in action ; and 

(c) if so , when the direction was issued ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
and (b). Yes. Dependents of officers and 
jawans killed in the recent war with Pakistan 
are provided telephone connections without 
OYT deposit on priority basis by the Heads 
of Circles/Districts without reference to the 
Telephone Advisory Committee when such 
demands are received by the Department 
through the Ministry of Defence. 

(c) 9th May, 1972. * 

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA •, I compliment 
the minister on his efficiency, but may I 
know whether the system of “Own Your 
Telephone” and asking for a deposit is out 
moded, which creates all sorts of problems 
not only to the ordinary citizens but also to 
the war heroes and their dependents to get 
telephone ? May I know whether such com- 
plaints from war widows regarding the 
difficulties in the procedure for getting a 
telephone have been received ? 

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA : So far as 
the war widows are concerned, they are not 
required to give any deposit. So far as 
others arc concerned, we will have the 
account settled some other time. 

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : May I know 
whether there are instances where the Defence 
Ministry themselves referred certain cases of 
war widows for telephones which have been 
rejected by certain district telephone officers 
and if so, what action will be taken against 
such officers ? 

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA : I have not 
received any such complaint. Should such a 
complaint come, I am sure adequate action 
will be taken to the satisfaction of the hon. 
member. 

PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR : 
Is it essential that applications for such 
telephones should come through the Defence 
Ministry or can they come through the 
District Magistrates to the department con- 
cerned ? 


SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA : I have no 
objection to this arrangement also, but 
normally the Defence Ministry has been 
routing them to us. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I am happy 
that the minister has issued instructions that 
war-widows and dependents should be given 
telephones. May I stretch it a bit and ask 
whether similar concessions will be given to 
the national heroes who were given awards 
yesterday ? 

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: This is a 
suggestion for action. We will certainly keep 
that in mind. 

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SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA : Even if 
an application is duly certified by the District 
Sailors, Soldiers and Airmen’s Board or the 
District Magistrate that the applicant is a 
direct dependent of a war hero, certainly they 
will be given similar concession 

Alleged Manipulation in Telephone Bills 

+ 

*231. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : 

SHRI M. M. JOSEPH : 

Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- 
TIONS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether any action was taken against 
the authorities who in collusion with subs- 
cribers are said to have defrauded Govern- 
ment of a few lakhs of rupees by manipula- 
ting the bill for phone calls ; and 

(b) if so, the salient features thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
Yes Sir. Prima facie such a case has been 
established. 

(b) One clerk, one Engineering Super- 
visor (Phones) and one Assistant Engineer 
(Phones) have been placed under suspension. 
The matter is under investigation and 
necessary action is being initiated against 
officials found responsible for the situation. 

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SRAVANA 23, 1894 (SAJTA) 


Oral Answers 


18 


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SHRI G. VISWANATHAN : If the 
working of the telephones is bad, the working 
of the accounts department is still worse. 
Not only manipulation is going on but some 
of us have received bills which we need not 
pay at all. For instance, 1 have received a 
bill for Rs. 1,700 which is wrong billing. 
Though 1 have written to the department, I 
have not received any reply so far. This 
is going on for years. What action has been 
taken to check these irregularities ? 

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: As I said 
it is not the accounts department but the 
Assistant Engineer in charge of each exchange 
who is responsible for the irregularities. 
Every quarter the Assistant Engineer sends 
to the accounts department a list of the 
number of calls made by each number. 
The accounts department calculate as to how 
much it costs. It is the Assistant Engineer, 
the Engineering Supervisor and the meter 
reader who between themselves should be 
able to check and give the correct reading. 



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20 


This has not happened. Therefore, when the 
matter came to our notice in February, 1972 
ixl relation to two or three cases, we had a 
whole series of checks made in every exchange 
and we have gone back up to 1969 in some 
and in other cases up to 1966, where we 
have found certain numbers which have not 
paid the bills that were due from them 
because of the mistake committed by the 
Assistant Engineer, Engineering Supervisor 
and the meter reader. 

SHRI A. P. SHARMA : Now it has 
been established that there js excess billing 
and wrong billing going on in a large num- 
ber of cases. Therefore, I would like to know 
what steps are being taken to see that wrong 
billing does not take place in future ? I want 
to know what is the relief given in those 
cases where there has been excess billing 
or wrong billing ? 

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we are concerned with uijder-billing. Here 
is a case where bills have not been sent to 
the people when due. But so far as excess 
billing and other things are concerned, the 
Committee on Petitions has made recommen- 
dations that we should go into the question 
of accounts kept by the Delhi Telephones. 
We had decided to appoint such a com- 
mitee. Meanwhile, the Estimates Committee 
has also come into the picture. We have 
requested the Estimates Committee to permit 
us to go ahead with the committee as sug- 
gested by the Petitions Committee. 

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Oral Answers 


SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA) 


Oral Answers 


22 


SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN : Has the 
Government made any efforts to develop a 
meter which could be installed with the tele- 
phone of the subscriber so that these alleged 
complaints are eliminated ? Secondly, it has 
been said that they have to identify the 
problem. May I know how long will they 
take to solve it ? 

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA : So far ar 
the meter is concerned, our telephone re- 
search cell has produced one charge-indicator 
which we call S. T. D. meter. But that is 
still under field test and I am not sure 
whether we have really succeeded in making 
one. However, it has been our constant 
effort to find out if we could produce a 
meter which could be installed in the subs- 
criber’s permises, and as soon as it is ready, 
it shall certainly be done. 

Allegation against Chairman National 
Institute of Designs, Ahmedabad by Vice- 
Admiral Soman 

*232. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Will 
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Vice-Admiral Soman, who 
was recently dismissed from the Director- 
ship of the National Institute of Designs in 
Ahmedabad, has made certain serious allega- 
tions against the Chairman of the Governing 
Body of the Institute ; 

(b) whether Government have made 
any investigation into these allegations ; 

(c) if so, the findings thereof ; and 

(d) the action taken thereon ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) to (d). The services of Vice-Admiral B. S. 
Soman as Executive Director of the National 
Institute of Design, Ahmedabad were termi- 
nated with effect from 3rd Jnly, 1972 in 
accordance with the conditions of his 
appointment. Certain allegations subsequently 
made by him regarding the working of the 
Institute, which' appeared in the Press, have 
come to the notice of the Government. He 
has also recently furnished Government with 
certain further allegations. All these are 
being examined. 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I would 
like to know whether it it is a fact that the 


Executive Director of this Institute is ap- 
pointed by the Governing Council and if 
that is so, whether Government are aware 
of the fact that, in the case Admiral Soman, 
the decision to terminate his services was 
taken in a meeting of the Governing Coun- 
cil in which out of eight members four were 
absent, one was opposed to the decision of 
termination and only two of the members 
and the Chairman were in favour of sacking 
him. Out of eight members, three were in 
favour, one was against and four were ab- 
sent. Does the Government consider it cor- 
rect or regular for a Governing Council to 
take a decision in this fashion terminating 
the services of the Executive Director who is 
the main executive of the Institute ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY * (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- 
NIAM) : There t are rules governing the 
meeting and the quorum required. If those 
conditions are satisfied, legally it is a cor- 
rect decision. But I do agree, it looks a litde 
bit anomalous. All these things are now 
under examination. We will go into it fully 
and when the*e matters are investigated, if 
necessary, it will be provided to the mem- 
ber for information. 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : I would 
like to know whether this inquiry or investi- 
gation is going to be done departmentally or 
whether any particular committee has been 
set up, because I understand that quite a 
large sum of money by way of grants to this 
Institute has been given by the Government. 
I would also like to know from him whether, 
in the complaints that have been received, 
this is also there that a particular industria- 
list’s family of Ahmedabad which is more 
or less controlling this Institute is getting 
many of their own concerns earn profits and 
commissions by virtue of work which is given 
to them by this Institute. Their own fac- 
tories and concerns are making profit out of 
it. I would like to know whether this is the 
way Government’s grants are to be utilised. 
Who is to do the inquiry and investigation ? 

SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM : I intend 
asking a high official to look into it, and if 
further investigations are necessary, we shall 
certainly consider it. But the 'straight factor 
here is this. Admiral Soman himself was 
appointed on 19-10-1970. He was in position 
till 3-7-1972. Till he was relieved, we have 
not received any repost from him or any 
complaint from him. It is only after he was 



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AUGUST 16, 1972 


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24 


discharged that he has made all the com- 
plaints and allegations. Therefore, it is a 
matter which will have to be looked into 
carefully. 

SHRI PILOO MODY : Quite apart 
from the lights or wrongs in this matter 
or what the complaints of individuals 
may be, there is a certain pci formance which 
this National Institute of Design is supposed 
to have given. Over so many years crores 
of rupees have been spent and the outcome, 
the result, has been rather disastrous, to say 
the least. I wnat to know whether Govern- 
ment is agitated over this matter about the 
results versus investment and whether a full 
inquiry into the complete working and the 
management of the Institute is contemplated 
so that, in case the management has been 
found wanting, the management may be 
changed. The idea is very good, money has 
been spent, equipment is there, but thcic is 
no lesult • • 

SHRI C. SUBRAM AM AM : I am 
grateful to the hon. Member for the very 
valuable suggestions he has made. We will 
certainly go info the entire working of this 
institute. 

SHRI B. V. NAIK : I think Admiral 
Soman has rendered service for a substantial 
period in the Indian Navy. I want to know 
whether there is anything on the record of 
his past performance in the Navy to show 
that these allegations are of a motivated 
nature or any aspersions can be cast on 
Admiral Soman. 

SHRI C*. SUBR\MAM\M : I am not 
casting any aspersions I have placed the 
facts. As long as he was associated with the 
Institute, no complaint has come and later 
on, he has made 'Therefore, this is a matter 
which requires full investigation. Certainly, 

I do not know his performance in the Navy 
blit I am sure he might have had an admira- 
ble record. So, that is not a question under 
consideration. 

SHRI PILOO MODY : All Admirals are 
admirable. 

MR. SPEAKER : Shri Narcndra Singh- 
absent. • 

Proposed T. V. Station daring Fourth Five 
Year Plan 

+ 

*234. SHRI VEKARIA : 

SHRI G. Y. KIUSHNAN : 

Will the Minister of INFORMATION 


AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of T. V. Stations proposed 
to be established during the current Fourth 
Five Year plan ; and 

(b) the location, State-wise, where they 
are going to be commissioned ? 


THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) Six. 


(b) Maharashtra 

J & K 
Punjab 
West Bengal 
U. P. 

Tamil Nadu 


— Bombay/Poona 
— Srinagar 
— Amritsar 
— Calcutta 
— Lucknow/Kanpur 
— Madras 


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SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAJCA) 


Written Answers 


26 


SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : Our TV policy 
is that wc have been expanding the TV cove- 
rage slowly. As my colleague has already put 
to you, in some States it is being started this 
year. Four metropolitan cities will get cover- 
ed in the Fourth Plan and then we are setting 
up in Srinagar and Punjab for obvious reasons. 
The other State capitals we will begin covering 
in the Fifth Plan. 

SHRI VIRBHADRA SINGH : Is there 
any proposal before the Government to set up 
a relay station so that the programmes tele- 
cast from Delhi or from Mussoorie can be 
seen in places like Simla ? 

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : We are at the 
moment trying to expand the programme as 
far as possible by setting up relay stations. One 
such proposal is to have a relay station at 
Musfoorie which would cover the Western UP 
as well as some parts of Haryana. We always 
explore the possibility of setting up relay 
stations so that the TV programmes can be 
seen as extensively as possible. I am trying 
to explore whether it is possible to cover Simla 
also Some parts of Simla even now can get. 

SOME 1 ION. MEMBERS 

MR. SPEAKER . No, please. 

SHRI N. K P. SALVE : The whole 
central area is left. 

SHRI S. M. RANERJEE : What about 
Kanpur 7 Kanpur has always sulTered. 

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WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 

Conference of^State Ministers of Housing 

*201. SHRI SHRIK1SHAN MODI : 

SHR*I SHASHI BHUSHAN : 

Will ihe Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- 
ING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Central Government has 
suggested that the State Governments should 
take immediate steps for setting up develop- 
ment authorities in major towns ; 

(b) whether this subject was discussed at 
a Conference of State Ministers of Housing 
held in Delhi in the 2nd week of July, 1972 , 
and 

(c) the other major points discussed at 
the Conference and decision taken thereon ? 

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 
HOUSING AND HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING (SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIK- 
SHIT) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) Yes, Sir. 

(c) A statement is laid down on the Table 
of the Sabha. 

Statement 

The Confeiencc of State Ministers of 
Housing, Town Planning ancl Urban Deve- 
lopment held in New Delhi in July, 1972 con- 
sidered various questions relating to housing 
and urban development policy, implementa- 
tion of the three Central sector housing 
schemes, terms and conditions of loans granted 
by HUDCO, and preparation and enforcement 
of regional and Master Plans, etc., and made 



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AUGUST 16, 1972 


Written Answers 


28 


the following major recommendations : 

(i) All uibanisable land should be socia- 
lised so that the Government can have 
effective con'iol over land-use, and can 
also recover unearned increments in 
the value of such lands for the benefit 
of the community. 

(u) High priority should be given to hous- 
ing and it should be reflected in larger 
financial allocations made for imple- 
mentation of various housing program- 
mes. An attempt should be made to 
provide an outlay of the Older of 
atleast Rs. 500 crures per annum at 
the Central and State levels during 
the Filth Flan period to meet the 
backlog and current requirements of 
bousing for the lower income groups, 

r- 

(ni) 25% of the provisions made under 
each of the two new central sector 
schemes, viz , (a) Scheme for Provision 
of House-sites to LandGss Workers in 
Rural \reas (hi Scheme foi Environ- 
mental Improvement of Slums should 
be lelcased to the State Governments 
immediately on receipt of their pro- 
ject proposals piovidtd they have been 
formulated in conformity with the 
Scheme in order to enable them to go 
ahead with the piojects. 

(iv) Administrative /technical machinery, 

both at the Ccntic and in the States, 
should be suitably strengthened and 
geared to the task of speedy implemen- 
tation of the schemes. 

(\) Legislation on Laud reforms and con- 
ferment of home-stead rights on those 
landless workers who are in occupa- 
tion of land in the rural areas as 
house-sites, should be tied up with 
the Scheme foi Provision of House- 
sites to Landless Workers in Rural 
Areas. To reduce the cost of acquisi- 
tion of land under this Scheme, Land 
Acquisition Acts of Central and State 
Governments should be amended in 
the light of the 25th Amendment to 
the Constitution. 

(vi) The Scheme, for Environmental Im- 
provement of Slum Areas is restricted 
to slums not earmarked for clearance 
during the next 10 years. This period 
is too long and should be reduced to 
5 years. The scope of the scheme 
should also be extended to States 


where no city or town is at piesent 
coveted by the Scheme to enable them 
to carry out improvements in slums 
in their capital city (or any other city 
considered important by them). 

(vii) To resolve procedural and other diffi- 
culties in the implementation of the 
Subsidised Housing Scheme for Plan- 
tation Workers, two regional meetings 
should be held towards the end of 
September, 1972 — one at Darjeeling for 
the Eastern Region and the other at 
Ooty for the Southern Region. The 
State Governments should also be 
given powers under this Scheme to 
sanction projects which involve the 
grant of subsidy alone (without loins) 
to the Planters. 

(viii) HUDGO should be piovidcd with a 
substantial portion of its resources 
repayable over a period not less than 
25 years, m order to fulfil the social 
and pressing need ot housing for the 
economically weaker sections of the 
society 

(ix) The State Governrmnts should take 
immediate action to set up statutory 
urban development authorities for their 
large and growing towns. 

(x) The Stale Govcinmt nts should chaw 
up Master Plans for all cities, and 
take urgent action to enact com pi o 
hensivc town planning legislation so 
that the Master Plans can be legally 
(and adequately) enforced. 

(xi) The State Planning Departments 
should prepare comprehensive city 
development programmes for impor- 
tant cities in their States, with special 
emphasis on investments of a self- 
generating type, and ensure their 
integration with the State Five Year 
Plans for implementation during Fifth 
Plan period. 

Community Development Blocks without 
Primary Health Centres and without 
Doctors 

*202. SHRI VEKARIA : 

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : 

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND 
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of Community Develop- 
ment Blocks in India, State-wise ; 



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(b) the number of Community Develop- 
ment Blocks where no Primary Centres have 
been established and number of Community 
Development Blocks with Primary Health 
Centres where no doctors have been provided. 
State-wise ; and 

(c) the action taken or proposed to be 
taken in the matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 
HOUSING AND HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING (SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIK- 
SHIT) : (a) to (c). A statement is laid on 
the Tabic of the Sabha. [Placed in Library . 
See No. LT— 3375/72] 

Conditions of Rice Seized at Bitragunta 
Station during 1971 

*203 SIIRI D\SARATHA DEB : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether Government are aware that 
about 24,000 bags of ri< e, seized at Bitragunta 
Railway Station (Andhra) last year is rotting 
in the godown ; and 

(b) whether that rice still remains fit for 
human < onsurnption ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNAS AIIEIl P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b). 
10,200 bags of rice seized by the Slate Govern- 
ment of Vndhra Pradesh on 15 7 71 are lying 
at Bitragunta. The State Government have 
reported that the bulk of the lots are well 
within the limits of consumable condition 
needing only winnowing and cleaning. 

Steps to Increase Food Production due 
to Shortfall during 1971-72 

*204. SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH : 

DR. MAHIPATRAY MEHTA : 

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state the steps taken by Govern- 
ment to improve the production of foodgrains 
which declined m 1971-72 ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAIIEB P. SHINDE) : Firm estimates 
of foodgrains production in 1971-72 are not 
yet available. Government have, however, 
taken various measures to increase the produc- 
tion of foodgrains in the country. These 
include (i) extension of area under the high- 
yielding varieties programme, (ii) bunging 
additional area under multiple cropping 


programme, (lii) starting of Central sector 
scheme of minikit programme oi rice, (iv) 
launching of Centrally sponsored scheme for 
quick multiplication of seeds and demonstra- 
tions of newly evolved varieties of pulses, 
(v) intensive development of irrigation parti- 
cularly ground water resources, (vi) adequate 
and timely supply of inputs like seeds, ferti- 
lisers and credit and (vii) surveillance of 
pests and diseases and well organised plant 
protection measuies. In addition, a massive 
rabi production programme is contemplated 
for the ensuing rabi season. 

Rice lying with Millers of Krishna and 
West Godavari District of Andhra 
Pradesh 

*205. SHRI NAVAL KISHORE 
SHARMA : 

SHRI* SUKHDEO PRASAD 
VERMA : 

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE lie 
pleased to state*: 

(a) whether about 18000 tons of boiled 
rice is lying with the millers al Krishna and 
West Godavari District of Andhra Pradesh ; 

(b) if so, whether the rice is about to be 
destioyrd and the millers and other concerned 
individuals arc being put to loss ; and 

(c) the steps being taken by the Govern- 
ment of India to put a check on adulteration 
of this rice with superior quality rice in the 
country, in case this rice is icmovcd from 
there ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) No, Sir. 

(c) The iclcvant provisions of law relating 
to the marketing of ticc as fit lor human 
consump tion will also apply to these stocks 
of rirc. 

Pay Scale of Binders working in National 
Museum, Archaeological Department, 
National Archives and Government of 

India Press 
% 

*206. SHRI G. K. C.HANDRAPPAN : 
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) the pav scale of Binders working in 
the (i) National Museum (ii) Archaeological 
Department (iii) National Archives and (iv) 
Government of India Press New Delhi ; and 



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(b) the steps being taken to upgrade the 
pay scale of the Binders in the National Archi- 
ves, where work is of superior and fine 
quality ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 


(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) s (a) A state- 
ment indicating the existing scales of Binders 
is laid on the Table of the Sabha. 

(b) The Third Pay Commission is seized 
of the matter. Decision will be taken in the 
light of its recommendation. 


Statement 


S.No. Name of the Office Designation of the post Scale of Pay 


1 . National Museum 


Book Binder 


2 . 


3. 


4. 


Archaeological Survey of India (i) Book Binder 

(ii) Junior Book Binder 

« 

National Archives Binder 

Government of Indfa Press, (i) Binder Grade I 
New Delhi. 

t 

(ii) Binder Grade II 


Rs. 130-5-160-8-200- 
EB-8-256-EB-8- 
280-10-300. 

Rs. 125-3-131-4-163- 
EB-4- 175-5- 180. 
Rs. 80-1-85-2-95-EB- 
3-1 10. 

Rs. 100-3-130. 

Rs. 150-5-180. 


Rs. 110-3-131-4-143- 
EB-4-155. 


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Breakdown of D.T.G* Basra 

*206. SHRI N. K. SANGHI : Will the 
Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government’s attention has 



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been drawn to the news-item appearing in the 
Indian Express dated 20th July* 1972 that 
over ten per cent of D. T. C. buses on Delhi 
roads break-down every day ; 

(b) whether Government have inquired 
into the high percentage of daily break-downs 
and also the steps taken to remedy the 
matter ; and 

(c) whether Government have tried to 
tackle thi problem of missing trips by D. T. C. 
buses and to what extent Government’s efforts 
have been successful ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- 
TARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) t 
fa) Yes, Sir. The fact, however, is that, 
whereas the percentage of break-downs per 
clay in relation to the number of buses on 
road was 2G.‘> in October, 1971, it is 25 4 
per day now. Further, the new management 
of the D« lhi Transport Corporation took over 
buses from the I) T. U. on 3 11. 71, 
out of which ncaily 524 were more than 
eight years old 

(b) The Delhi Tiansport Corporation is 
taking steps to reduce the rate of breakdowns 
l>\ pressing new and irnovated buses into 
sc? vice and scrapping the over-aged ones and 
constructing new depots to improve the stand- 
aid of in.untc nnner ol buses 

(r) Yes, Sir. The percentage of trips 
missed has been brought down from 31.6 in 
October. 1971 to 21.1 current!). 

Showing of J. and K. as a Separate 
Country in «X* Standard Text Book in 
Mysore State 

*209. SHRI DHXRAMRAO AFZAL- 
PURKAR : Will the Ministci of EDUCA- 
TION AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether in the State of Mysore in the 
r X' Standard text book, Jammu and Kashmir 
has been shown separate country in the 
maps ; and 

(l>) if so, the reaction of Central Govern- 
ment thereto ? 

THE MINIS! ER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) and (b). 
Necessary information is being collected and 
will be laid on the Table of the Sabha m soon 
as possible. 


Acquisition of Coastal Vessels 

*210. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU : Will 
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether there is an urgent need to 
acquire small coastal vessels to develop coastal 
shipping ; 

(b) if so, the number of such vessels 
required ; and 

(c) whether any steps have been taken to 
acquire such ships ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : (a) Yes, 
Sir. 

(b) A Sub-Qpmmittee of the National 
Shipping Board, which is a statutory body, is 
examining the c|uestion of the tonnage requ- 
ired to meet our coastal requirements. 

* 

(c) Orders for 10 dry cargo vessels of a 
total of about 1,20,000 GRT and for 5 coastal 
tankers of about 63,000 GRT have been 
placed abroad. 

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Students’ Representation on Governing 
Bodies of Universities 

*212. SHRI K. B A L ADH AN DAY U - 
TIIAM : Will the Minister of EDUCATION 
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to 
state 3 

(a) whether the proposal to give represen- 
tation to students in the governing bodies of 
the Universities has not yet been implemen- 
ted ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons for the delay in 
implementing the proposal ? 

THE MINISTER OF, EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) and (b). 
The recommendations made by the Gajendra- 
gadkar Committee in its report on Governance 
of the Universities, including those relating to 
Student’s participation in University Adminis- 
tration, have been accepted in principle by 
the University Grants Commission and the 
Central Government. The implementation of 
some of these recommendations would require 
amendment of the Acts of the Universities 
and further action in this regard is to be 
taken by State Governments and the Central 
Government. So far as the Central Govern- 
ment is concerned, these recommendations 
have already been taken into account while 
amending the Aligarh Muslim University Act. 
Similar action will be taken while formulating 
comprehensive legislative proposals of other 
Central Universities. 

The University Grants Commission have 
forwarded the report to the Universities. It is 
hoped that the Universities will take action 
on those aspects of participation which fall 
within their powers. 

Complaints regarding Irregular Supply 

of Seeds and Fertilizers to States 

*213. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have received 
complaints from certain States regarding 
irregular supply of seeds and chemical ferti- 
lizers to farmers ; and 


(b) if so, the reaction of Government in 
this regard ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b). Yes, 
Sir. Complaints have been received from 
some States regarding inadequate supply of 
seeds and chemical fertilisers to farmers. 

Regarding seeds, the States Government 
arrange for the pioduction of the required 
quantities of seeds ; and these efforts arc 
supplemented by the National Seeds Corpora- 
tion, Tarai Development Corporation and 
State Farms Corporation of India. A com- 
plaint was received from the State Govern- 
ment of West Bengal regarding non-supply 
of seeds of paddy variety IET 1991 by the 
National Seeds Corporation and this is being 
investigated. 

Regarding fertilisers, coordinated supply 
plans are diawn up onre in six months by the 
Government of India, in consultation with the 
Stale Governments and domestic manufac- 
turers. The Central Government ai ranges for 
import of fertilisers to cover the deficits in 
indigenous production. However, it is for the 
State Governments to organise distribution of 
imported fertilisers in such manner as they 
deem necessary for timely supply to farmers. 

Owing to difficulties encountered by indi- 
genous factories and also difficulties in the 
import of fertilisers, the supply position this 
year has not been satisfactory. While every 
effort is bring made to increase indigenous 
production and import availabilities, the foll- 
owing measures have been taken to ensure 
just and equitable distribution of available 
stocks amongst the States : — 

(i) An order has been promulgated under 
the Essential Commodities Act, making it 
obligatory for the manufacturers to supply 
quantities of fertilisers to the States, as com* 
mitted by them during the Zonal Conferences. 
This will ensure that the feitilisers are not 
sold only in a few pockets in the country and 
that all the States get the supplies on an 
equitable basis. 

(ii) Orders have also been passed under 
the Fertiliser Control order, compelling the 
manufacturers to report to the Central and 
State Governments every month the actual 
supplies made by them and also the proposed 
to be supplied. This will enable States to 
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(iii) Government have taken over 30% 
of the Ammonium Sulphate produced within 
the country to be distributed through State 
agencies like cooperatives Agro-Industries 
Corporations etc. for priority crops and area*. 

(iv) The States have been advised to pre- 
pare a careful inventory of stocks available in 
godowns of cooperatives and retail dealers, to 
enable optimum utilisation of the available 
fertilisers. 

(v) The manufacturei s have been asked 
to channel their output through cooperative 
organisations, in order to minimise the chance 
of mal-practices. 

Estimates of Production of foodg rains 
during 1971-72 

*214. SI 1RI SI I YAM NANDAN MISHRA: 
Will the Minister ol AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) tin number of estimates of the pro- 
duction of foodgiains made during a year ; 

(b) the periods during which they are 
made available to the Government ; and 

(c) the different estimates of the produc- 
tion ol foodgiains during 1971-72 ? 

HIE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAllLll P. SHINDE) : (a) to (c). 
Estimates of production of foodgrains based 
on complete enumeration of area and results 
of crop cutting experiments foi yields are 
made only once m a year. 'These estimates 
gcneiallv become available aftei the close of 
the agricultural var, i e. some tune in July- 
August. For 1971-72, these estimates are still 
being compiled. 

Rise in price of fertiliser and its effect 
on grain production 

*215. SHRI J IAR I SINGH : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether Government are aware of 
the unusual rising of pi ices of the fertilisers in 
the country ; 

(b) if so, the causes thereof ; and 

(c) whether this unusual price rise of 
fertilisers is not to affect badly the grain 
production in the country .•* 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 


ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b). 
There is a statutory price control on th< 
retail prices of three important fertilisers 
which cover more than about 60% of the 
consumption in the country, namely Urea, 
Ammonium Sulphate and C.A.N. Sale of 
these fertilisers whether of imported origin or 
domestically manufactured, at prices exceed- 
ing the statutory levels is an offence under 
the Fertiliser (Control) Order. 

There is no control on the prices of other 
fertilisers, but the price levels tend to conform 
to the price structure of imported fertilisers, 
which are channelised through the State 
Governments and public agencies at fair 
prices. However it is likely that some elements 
arc taking advantage of the present difficult 
supply position, and charging high prices. 
The State Governments have been asked to 
exercise strict vigilance and take action where 
such instances come to notice. 

There has been no unusual rise in prices 
of fertilisers in the Country. The prices of 
all imported and domestically manufactured 
fertilisers had to be increased in March, 1972 
only to absoib the duty on fertilisers made in 
the budget proposals for 1972-73. Apart from 
this, there has been no increase in the price 
of imported fertilisers during the past three 
years. On the other hand, the prices of both 
imported and domestically manufactured 
fertilise! s were reduced marginally in respect 
of Ammonium Sulphate by Rs. 10/- per tonne 
with effect from 5.8.69, Munate of Potash by 
Rs. 10 per tonne with effect from 1.1.71 and 
Urea by Rs. 20/- per tonne w.e.f. 4.3.71. In 
fact, the price of imported Ammonium Sul- 
phate (coloured or powdery vaiicty) was 
reduced by Rs. 100/- per tonne during the 
year 1969-70. 

(c) The increase in fertiliser prices as 
indicated above has not affected adversely the 
grain production in the country. On the 
other hand, scientific use of fertilisers is a 
profitable proposition considering their pro- 
ductivity and incentive prices of Agricultural 
produce. The increase in fertiliser use in the 
last three years has been respectively 13%, 
14% and 22%. 

Bridge in Seven Hours 

*216. SIIRI S. A. MURUG\NAN- 
THAM : Will the Minister of SHIPPING 
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the attention of Government 
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‘ Times of India' dated 8th July, 1972 
captioned ‘Bridge in seven hours’ ; 

(b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ; and 

(c) whether Government propose to 
support, assist and help the scheme of quick 
budge making ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- 
ARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : 

(a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) It is essentially a form of unit type 
ol bridging in steel designed, patented and 
fabricated by Bhagat Engineering Co , Private 
Ltd , Bombay. 

(c) In view of the claims made by the 
firm with regard to the* cost and the time 
required for construction, Government hopes 
that the claim made by the firm will receive 
due consideration from the g authorities con- 
cerned when enquiries are floated for works 
involving use of the type of structure evolved 
by them. 

Cheap House by N.B.O. 

*217. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD 
M \NDAL : Will the Minister of WORKS 
AND HOUSING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government of India have 
received a suggestion from National Building 
Organisation regai ding the cost at which a 
cheap house can be constructed in Delhi ; 

(b) if so, the salient features of the pro- 
posals : and 

(f ) whether the suggestion has since bern 
examim d by Government and if so, with what 
results ? 

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 
HOUSING AND HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING (SHRI UMA SHANKAR 
DIKSIin ) : (a) to (c) Government of India 
have not received any suggestion from the 
National Buildings Organisation regarding 
a design for a cheap house specifically for 
Delhi However, the National Buildings 
Organisation has prepared a design and the 
specifications for single storeyed low cost 
housing This provides for units of three 
tenements each and each unit is estimated to 
cost Rs 14,283 exclusive of the cost of land. 
Government are considering a proposal to 
Construct a unit of this design and specifica- 
tions with a view to testing the design. 


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Minimum Standards for Sky Scrappers 
in Connaught Place, New Delhi 

*219 SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH 
M \L1K . 

SHRI R KM PR VKUSII : 

Will the Minister of WORKS AND 
HOUSING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the New Delhi Redevelop- 
ment Advisory Committee has n < omintnded 
some measures and minimum standards for 
sky sciappcts in and around Connaughl 
Place area ; and 

(b) if so, its main rrromme ndations and 
Government’s decision tint eon ■* 

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 
HOUSING AND HEALTH \M> FAMILY 
PLANNINC; (SHRI UMA SHANKAR 
DIKSHIT) : (a) The Committer has not yet 
submitted its report to Government. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Scarcity of Sugar in States 

*220. SHRI Y. KSWARA REDDY : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

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reported from some States ; and 

(b) if so, the steps Government have 
taken to ensure adequate supply of sugar in 
all parts of the country ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) On account of the 
fall in production of sugar this year, there is 
a general shortage of it. However, within the 
limits of the availability, regular monthly 
releases of sugar are being made for distribu- 
tion to domestic consumers through controlled 
channels and for sale in the open market. 
There has been some delay and dislocation 
during July, 1972, in the supply of levy sugar 
to a few of the States as a result of the 
interim orders obtained by some factories in 
the Supreme Court and the various High 
Courts restraining the Government from 
infoicing the Sugar (Price Determination) 
Ordei, 1972. All the same, 90.3% of the 
release quota of levy sugar has been lifted 
fiom factories in July, 1972. 

(h) Action has been initiated to have the 
decisions of the Courts expedited. In order to 
ensure an unintetruptid supply of sugar to 
all parts ol the country, instructions have been 
issued to the State Governments to strengthen 
and streamline the distribution machinery 
and more particularly to ensure that the 
limits on holding of stocks by dealers, and on 
sale and despatch by factories are not 
contravened. 

Leakage of Revenue in Trunk Dialling 

*221 STIR I NIHAR LASKAR : Will the 
Mimstet of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether enquiry has revealed that 
there was a large leakage of revenue in the 
Subset iber Trunk Dialling calls , and 

(b) if so, the eflbits being made to reco- 
ver the bills fiom such subscribers who got de- 
flated bills ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H, N. BAHUGUNA): (a) 
Enquiries completed so far have revealed that 
ci rtain subscribt rs have not been fully billed. 
Further enquiries however are still under way. 

(1>) Supplementary bills in relation to 
subscribers so far identified for having not 
been fully charged, are being issued. 


Reduction of Licensed Capacity in Tape 
Recorder Industry 

*222. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY: Will 
the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to be 
state: 

(a) whether Government have decided to 
reduce the licensed capacity in the tape recor- 
der industry by 40 per cent ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. C. PANT) : (a) No Sir. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Dalton Ganj-Patna Telephone Lines Inactive 

*229. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI: 
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 
he pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Telephone line between 
Dalton Ganj and Patna (Bihar) is in an inac- 
tive position and is being used by the people 
only 4 days a week ; and 

(b) if so, the leasons therefoi ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) No 
Sir. 

(b) The question does not arise. 

P. & T. Colony Kidwaipuri, Patna 

*230. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: 
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 
be pleased to state: 

(a) the progress of the construction of 
Pints and Telegraphs building at Patna in the 
Posts and Telegraphs Colony Kidwaipuri ; and 

(b) whether Government propose to open 
any Central School in that building? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) 
The construction of Primary School cum com- 
munity hall building in P. & T. Colony, Kid- 
waipuri, in Patna is in progress. 

(b) No Sir. 

Stolen Mall Found in Paddy Fields 

*233. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH : Will 
the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether 1,000 letteis, stolen from mail 
bags at Navakkal, near Ernakulam, were found 



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in the paddy field if so, whether the culprits 
have been traced ; 

(b) the action taken by Government 
against the culprits ; and 

(c) the steps Government propose to take 
to prevent such thefts in future? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) 
Bunches of about COO letters suspected to have 
been stolen from Cochin Air Sorting were 
uneaithcd from a paddy field in Narakkal near 
Cochin in May, 1972. The case is still under 
police investigation and culprits have not yet 
been traced. 

(b) In view of (a) above, question docs 
not arise. 

(c) Necessary precautions and remedial 
measures for tightening up supervision and se- 
curity arrangements have been taken. 

\ 

Directives to States to Fill quota of Posts 
Reserved for Scheduled Castes and 
Scheduled Tribes 

*236. SHRI V. MAYA VAN: Will the 
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: 

(a) whether Government have issued di- 
rectives to all the Government departments at 
the Centre as well as to all the State Govern- 
ments to fill up the quota of reservation for 
Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of the States and 
Union Government Departments ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NI WAS MIRDHA) : (a) and (b) 
Instructions have been issued from time to 
time to all Central Ministries and Departments 
prescribing the various steps to be taken for 
securing scheduled caste and scheduled tribe 
candidates against vacancies reserved for them 
These instructions arc required to be strictly 
observed by all the appointing authorities. The 
reservations for scheduled castes and scheduled 
tribes in the Services in the States arc the con- 
cern of the respective State Governments un- 
der article 335 r^ad with article 16(4) and 12 
of the Constitution. As such, while no direc- 
tive in this regard can be issued by the Go- 
vernment of India to State Governments, the 
former has been impressing upon the latter the 
need to take appropriate steps to secure ade- 
quate representation to the members of sche- 
duled castes and scheduled tribes in the Ser- 
vices and posts under them. 


A.I.R. Correspondents 

*237. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOHA- 
PATRA : Will the Minister of INFORMA- 
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether Government plan to change 
the part-time A. I. R. Correspondents to full- 
time ones and increase their salary ; 

(b) whether the Correspondents arc also 
appointed for special jobs as on agriculture, 
labour, education, youth etc., if so, how many 
such are there in Orissa ; and 

(c) the number of Districts in Orissa with- 
out A. I. R. Correspondents ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI I. K. GUJRAL) : 

(a) There is no such proposal at present. 

(b) AIR has appointed Conespondents 
for coverage of agriculture and for youth pro- 
grammes at a few places Orissa has one Cor- 
respondent fur agricultural covciagc. It has 
no Correspondent specially for youth coverage 

(c) Five. 

Alleged Assault on a Mentally retarded 
Female by Police party while taking her 
to a Delhi Court 

*238. SHRI N. K. SANGHI : 

SHRI B. S. BHAURA : 

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether a mentally retarded female 
inmate of the Central Jail of Delhi was cri- 
minally assaulted by the escorting Police 
party on July 3, 1972 when she was taken to 
a Delhi Court ; 

(b) if so, whether a high level enquiry 
has been instituted into this mattei ; and 

(c) if so, action taken against those found 
guilty and steps taken to stop recurrence of 
such incidents in future ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. C. PANT) : (a) An allegation to this 
effect has been made. 

(b) An inquiry officer has been appoint- 
ed to enquire into the allegations 

(c) The Inquiry report is awaited. A 
criminal case has been registered in the police 



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46 


station and the two constables forming 
the escort party have been suspended. A 
separate vehicle with an escort consisting of 
lady police is being provided for escorting 
female prisoners. 

V.H.F. a New Telephone System for 
Rural areas 

*239. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : 

SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP 
SINGH i 

Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- 
TIONS he pleased to state : 

(a) whether a new rural telephone sys- 
tem called V. H. F. system is being experi- 
mented ; 

(l>) if so, whether it will provide simul- 
taneous speak and hear facilities ; 

(c) whether this new type of Jink is ex- 
pected to result in greater reliability, easier 
operation ; and 

(d) if so, how long it will take to take it 
to far away places in rural aieas ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
Yes Sir. A single channel V. H. F. system has 
c lev* loped for such areas. 

(b) Yes Sir. It provides both speak and 
hear facilities just like an ordinary telephone ; 

(c) This telephone system is expected to 
be more reliable and easy to handle in geo- 
giaphical areas where it is difficult to erect and 
maintain open wire lines. 

(d) It is proposed to instal such systems, 
in the iirst instance, in hilly and backward 
aieas. 'Flic first few systems are expected to 
be installed this year. 

Tyre-factories in Public Sector 

♦240. SHRI PAMPAN GOWDA : Will 
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLO- 
GY be pleased to state : 

(a; the number and location of Tyre- 
factories functioning in the country in public 
sector ; and 

(b) the manufacturing capacity of each 
of the factories ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 


TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMAN- 
IAM) : (a) There is no central public sector 
Tyre factory in the country ; 

(b) Does not arise. 

Progress of State Farm at Barpeta Assam 

1980. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) the progress so far made by the 
State Farm established at Barpeta Assam ; 

(b) the total number of Officers drawing 
above Rs. 500 p. m., employees drawing 
below Rs. 500 p. m. and workers so far 
appointed ; 

(c) the total amount of money spent so 
far in this regard ; and 

(d) the total production up to the end 
of April, 1972 ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Total 
area of the farm at present is 5,000 acres. 
Operations in the area were commenced in 
November, 1971. Recruitment of staff, pro- 
curement of machinery and equipment for the 
farm, construction of temporary sheds deve- 
lopment of land etc. have already been taken 
in hand. So far 532 acres have been reclaim- 
ed. It was possible to put about 30 acres of 
land under cultivation in rabi 1971-72. Total 
area so far cultivated in Kharif 1972 is 110 
acres. 

(b) As on 30th June, 1972, two Officers 
were drawing pay above Rs. 500 p.m and 
nine employees below Rs. 500 p. m. From 10 
to 250 workers have been employed since the 
farm was set up. 

(c) Rs. 3,61,187/- upto 30.6.72. 

(d) 145 quintals of wheat. 

Poultry Farm and Nutritious Food Dis- 
tribution Centres in M.P. 

1981. SHRI MARTAND SINGH OF 
REWA : Will the Minister of AGRICUL- 
TURE be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of poultry farms and 
nutritious food distribution Centres function- 
ing in the State of Madhya Pradesh, district- 
wise ; and 

(b) the particulars regarding the finan- 
cial contribution of Centre and the State 
during last three yean in this regard ? 



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48 


THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). The infor- 
mation is being collected from the State 
Government and will be placed on the table 
of the House when collected. 

Promoting Education ««**«■§ Adivasis of 
Madhya Pradesh 

1982. SHRI MARTAND SINGH OF 
REWA • Will the Minister of EDUCATION 
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) the amount spent for Adivasis in 


Madhya Pradesh* during the last three years 
by way of granting scholarships and other 
facilities for promoting education among them 
yeai^wise and district-wise ; and 

(b) the number of persons benefited by 
the Scheme, district-wise ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SO- 
CIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA- 
SWAMY) : (a) and (b). A statement is 
laid on the Table of the Sabha. 


Statement 

Central Sector (Rs. in lakhs) 


Year 

Post Matric Scholarships 

Girls Hostel 


ti 

Expenditure 

Targets 

Expenditure 

Targets 

1969-70 

5.36* 

3319 Scholarships 

— 

— 

1970-71 

4.39* , 

2880 

0,9G 

20 hostels 

1971-72 

5.48* 

3700 

1 80 

20 hostels 


* Excluding committed expenditure of Rs. 11. G6 lakhs 


State Sector 


Expenditure 


'Pargets achieved 


1969-70 1970-71 1971-72 

(Rs. in lakhs) 

87.46 120.59 190.80 


1969-70 1970-71 1971-72 


1. Pre-Matric 60000 
Scholarships 

2. Mid-day meals 6 lakhs 

3. Reimbursement 5750 
of tution and 

Board Exam, 
fees. 

4. Hostels 80 

5. Ashram Schools 3 


6. Additional sti- 216 

pends in general 

I. T. I. 

7. Post Matric — 

hostels. 


66000 

75000 

7 lakhs 

8 lakhs 

6325 

6967 

100 

200 

3 

15 & 
upgrading of 
11 V* P. 
Ashrams 

267 

300 

4 

5 


The figures in respect of 1971-72 are anticipated. The District-wise information i* 
not available. 


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50 


Sale price of Milk Products of D. M. S. 
in Parliament House 

1983. SIIRI K. SURYANARAYANA : 
Will ihe Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) the sale price of the following pro- 
ducts marketed by the Delhi Milk Scheme 
and sold at the Parliament House Counter ; 
(i) Milk Shake and Lassi plain ; (ii) Milk 
Shake and Lassi Sweet ; (iii) Milk Shake 
with Ice Cream and (iv) Milk Shake with 
Ice Cream and Syrup ; 

(b) whether no price chart has been dis- 
played at the Stalls in Parliament House, if 
.so, the reasons therefor ; and 

(e) whether any measure has been laid 
down foi mixing of water in Curd for pre- 
paring Lassi both plain and sweetish and if 
1,(3, the measurement thereof and if not, the 
i casons thcicfor f 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SUER SINGH) : (a) The sale prices of 
various milk pioducts sold by Delhi Milk 
Scheme at the Parliament House counter are 
given below : 


Milk product 

Price 

paise per 
glass 

Remarks 

( 1 ) Milk Shake, plain 


Not sold 

Lassi, plain 

45 

— 

(ii) Milk Shake sweet 

53 

— 

Lassi sweet 

60 

— 

[ 111 ) Milk Shake with 



ice cream 

— 

Not sold 

[iv) Milk Shake with 



ice cream and 

98 

with 75 cc 

syrup 


ice-cream 



cup 


128 

with 125 cc 



ice-cream 



cup 


(b) The prices of various milk products 
told in the Parliament House Stall/Milk Bar 
ar <* generally well known. Price charts are 
hung up when any change is effected in the 
sale prices. 


(c) No, Water is added to Curd for pre- 
paring Lassi, according to customer’s taste. 

Seats available in All India Institute 
of Medical Sdences f New Delhi 

1984. SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA : 
Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMI- 
LY PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) the total number of seats available in 
the All India Institute of Medical Sciences, 
New Delhi for graduate and postgraduate 
courses ; 

(b) the total number of applications 
received this year for selection of the candi- 
dates Statewise; and 

(c) the reasons for the over representa- 
tion of some States *n the Selection ? 

• 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF .HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY 
OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. 
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) The 

position in regard to availability of seats in 
the under-graduate MBBS course and the 
various post-graduate courses at the All India 
Institute of Medical Sciences, New Delhi is 
as follows : 

(i) Under-graduate M.B.B.S. Course : 

The total number of seats available each 
year for the course is 50 out of which 10 
seats are reserved for Scheduled Castes/Sche- 
duled Tribes and 5 seats are reserved for 
foreign students nominated by the Central 
Government. 

(ii) Various Post-graduate Courses : 

The Total number of scats available at 
present in the various post-graduate depart- 
ments at the Institute is 422. The number 
of seats in the various courses is fixed by the 
Academic Committee of the Institute keeping 
in view the available facilities in a particular 
department. 

(b) (i) Under-graduate M.B*B.S. Course : 

The total number of applications received 
this year for the 45 seats (exclusive of five 
seats reserved for foreign students) was 7315. 

The State-wise break-up of the candidates 
selected for admission t6 the course during 
the year i> given below 2 



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1. 

Delhi 

15 

2. 

Bihar 

4 

3. 

Haryana 

1 

4. 

Maharashtra 

2 

5. 

Mysore 

1 

6. 

Punjab 

5 

7. 

Rajasthan 

1 

8. 

Tamil Nadu 

1 

9. 

Uttar Piadesh 

15 


45 


(ii) Various Post-graduate Courses : 

The total number of applications received 
this year for the 191 seats for January to 
July 1972 session available in the various post- 
graduate courses was 2012'. Out of these 138 
candidates were selected for admission to the 
courses. The State-wise break-up of the per- 
sons selected for admission is given below : 


Punjab 

7 

Andhra Pradesh 

12 

Madhya Pradesh 

3 

Kerala 

14 

Maharashtra 

2 

Delhi 

27 

Tamil Nadu 

6 

Assam 

4 

Orissa 

6 

Himachal Pradesh 

4 

Haryana 

6 

Jammu and Kashmir 

4 

Mysore 

6 

U.P. 

12 

Rajasthan 

1 

West Bengal 

20 

Bihar * 

1 

Foreign Nationals 

3 


Total 138 


(c) The admission to the MBBS Course 
at the Institute is strictly on merit determi- 


ned by holding an All India competitive 
examination. No special reservation of seats 
is made State-wise. As regards the post-gra- 
duate courses the selection is made purely on 
basis of merit and no seats are reserved for 
any particular state. 

Seats in various Indian Institutes of 
Technology 

1985. SHRI JAGADISH BHATTACHA- 
RYYA : Will the Minister of EDUCATION 
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) the total number of seats available in 
the five Indian Institutes of Technology all 
over India for graduate courses during the 
current year ; 

(b) the number of applications received 
from candidates according to State of origin 
and the number of candidates selected from 
each State ; and 

(c) the reason* for the over representation 
of some States in the selection ! 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION. 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL IIASAN) : (a) and (b). 
A statement is laid on the Table of the 
House. [Placed in Library See No. LT. 3377/72] 

(c) Admission to the Institutes of Tech- 
nology are made through a Joint Entrance 
Examination. The admission of students from 
different States depends upon their lanks in 
the merit list of the entrance examination 
and choice of their own Institutes and subject 
fields. 

Small and Marginal Farmers and Agri- 
cultural Labour Scheme in Dibrugarh, 
Assam 

1986. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether Dibrugarh District in Assun 
has a greater number of small and marginal 
farmers and highest number of landless agri- 
culturists ; 

(b) whether the s( heme for benefit of small 
and marginal fanners and agricultural labour 
is proposed to be extended to Dibrugarh 
district in Assam ; and 

(c) if not, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISRTY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) to (c). The SFDA/ 



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MFAL are pilot experiments which are being 
tried out in 87 selected project areas. In 
Assam these areas arc located in the districts 
of (1) Gopalpara (2) Kamrup (3) Mikir 
Hills and (4) Nowgong Hills, which were 
selected in consultation with the State Gov- 
ernment. There is no proposal to extend the 
scheme to Dibrugarh district during the 
Fourth Five Year Plan. Information regarding 
the number of small and marginal farmers 
and agricultural labourers in Dibrugarh dis- 
trict of Assam is not available. 

Economist Leaving India 

1987. SHRI E. V. VIKHK PATIL : 
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the atti ntion of Government 
has been drawn to the news appearing in the 
Hindustan Times dated the 2Gth July, 1972 
about the decision of a top economists leaving 
tin countiy out of disgust ; and 

(b) if so, the steps taken by Government 
in the matter ? 

HIE MINIS’! ER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF S NURUL HASAN) : (a) and (b). 

I lie news appearing in the Hindustan Times 
dated 2bth July, 1972 refers to the resignation 
ol Pi of. M. C. Dalvi of Bombay University. 
I hr inquired information is bung collected 
fium Bombay University and statement will 
he laid on the Fable of the Sabha in due 


Allotment of Land to Registered Religi- 
ous Institutions, New Delhi 

1988. SHRI BISHWANATH JIIUNJI1U- 
NWALA i Will the Minister of WORKS AND 
HOUSING be pleased to refer to the reply 
given to Unstarred Question No. 4141 on the 
Lt may, 1972 regarding allotment of land to 
Registered Religious Institutions in Delhi and 
Mate : 

(a) the requisite information ; and 

(b) the names of the Religious Institu- 
tions to whom land which was originally 

marked for educational institutions has been 
allotted with the area in each case and its 
location ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 

MINISTRY of health and family 
planning and in the ministry of 
Works and housing (prof. d. p. 


54 

CHATTOPADHYAYA) 8 (a) Allotments have 
been made to 22 religious Institutions in 
Delhi during the last two years and 7 cases 
are pending with the D.D.A. No plot origi- 
nally earmarked for any educational institu- 
tions has been diverted to a religious institu- 
tion. 

(b) In view of reply to part (a) this does 
not arise. 

Amount Sanctioned to various Housing 
Schemes in States 

1989. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will 
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) the amount sanctioned to the various 
States for implementation of Housing Schemes 
for (a) Hanjans, (b) Scheduled Castes and 
Scheduled Tribes, in* 1971-72, State-wise; 

(b) the total amount allotted under the 
above scheme for 1972-73, State-wise ; and 

• 

(c) the names of the States from which 
schemes have already been received and 
expenditure involved to implement those 
schemes ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA- 
SWAMY) : (a) to (c). State-wise details may 
be seen in the statement laid on the Table 
of the House. [ Placed in Library. See No. L.T.- 
3378/72]. The figures relate to the 
housing schemes under the Backward Classes 
Sector. Schemes are formulated and imple- 
mented by the States/Union Territories 
Administrations. 

Financial Aid for Drinking water in Rural 
and Urban Areas 

1990. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will the 
Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY PLA- 
NNING be pleased to state ; 

(a) the total financial aid given to Assam 
for implementation of Drinking Water in rural 
and urban areas during the last three years, 
year-wise ; and 

(b) the financial sanction ,for the above 
works for 1972-73 ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. 
P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) and (b). 
Central assistance to the State Government 9 



55 Written Answm AUGUST 16, 1972 Written Answers 56 


for development programmes, including water 
supply scheme, is being given on the pattern 
of block loans and block grants of 70% and 
30%, respectively. The financial sanctions for 
the individual programme like water 
supply are not required to be issued by the 
Central Government as these lie in the State 
Sector and the State Governments are entirely 
responsible for providing funds and execution 
of such schemes. 


1 he allocations for 1969-70 , 1970-71 , 1971-72 and 
1972-73, as recommended by the Planning Commi- 
ssion, are given below : — 


Year 

Rural Water 
Supply 

i 

Urban Water 
Supply (inclu- 
ding Sanitation) 
(Rs. in lakhs) 

1969-70 

60.00 

37 00 

1970-71 

39.00 

%.00 

1971-72 



Gencial : 

21.23 

68.77 

Hill areas : 

19.00 

23.00 

1972-73 

72.00* 

65.00* 


♦Includes Rs. 21.37 lakhs for Mizoram. 


Doctors Refusal to visit M.P.’s Flats 

1991. SHRI SWARAN SINGH SOKHI : 
Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Doctors and Lady Doctois 
of Willingdon Hospital n fuse to visit the 
M. P *s flats when urgently required to attend 
to their babies and wives and visit only 
Minister’s House when called ; and 

(b) if so, the action Government propose 
to take against such Doctors and Lady 
Doctors who neglect the M. P. intentionally 
and even ask them to wait outside ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Visiting the 

patients in their homes on call does not fall 
within the prescribed duties of the Medical 
Officers on the Hospital strength of Willing- 
don Hospital. The Central Government 
Health Scheme beneficiaries are, however, 
visited by the specialists of the Central 


Government Health Scheme strength attached 
to the Willingdon Hospital, when requisitioned 
by the concerned Medical Officer of the 
Central Government Health Scheme Dis- 
pensary attending the patient. M. Ps. are 
covered under the Central Government 
Health Scheme. 

(b) Any specific case of intentional eva- 
sion of duty of paying domiciliaiy visits by a 
Medical Officer is fully enquired into and if 
after enquiry the Medical Officer, complained 
against, is found at fault, lie is suitably dealt 
with. 

Allotment of Land to M.Ps. in Delhi 

1992. SHRI SWARAN SINGH 
SOKHI : Will the Mimstei of WORKS AND 
HOUSING be pleased to staU : 

(a) whethei Govcinmenl have dtcided to 
allot land to Members of Pailiament in 
Delhi and the applications made by M. Ps. 
arc King with tin Dilhi Development 
Authority since July, 1971 : 

(b) whetln r Government purpose to take 
any action against I) D. A for pending such 
allotments ; and 

(c) if not, the reasons llurefoi ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HE \LTH \ND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P- 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) to (<) Govern- 
ment have reserved 5% of plots developed by 
the D. D. A under the low and tin middle 
income groups, foi '‘sitting Mcnibf rs of 
Parliament and the Metropolitan Council, 
Councillors of the Municipal Corporation of 
Delhi and non-official members of the Canton- 
ment Board and the New Delhi Municipal 
Committee'*. The plots arc allotted at pre- 
determined rates to only those wlro arc 
covered by the income limit prescribed for 
the low and the middle income groups ard 
do not own a house in Delhi, New Dilhi or 
Cantonment area in their own name or in 
the name of any of their dependent relations 
including unmarried children. 'The appli- 
cations received from the M.Ps. are forwarded 
to the D. D. A. who make the allotment to 
the M.Ps. against their quota according to 
the date of receipt ol the application, as and 
when developed plots become available for 

allotment to these income groups The 
question of taking any action against the 
D. I). A. does not arise. 



57 


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SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAJCA) 


Written Answers 


Allotment of Accommodation to Govern- 
ment Officers on their turn 

1993. SHRI S. D. SOMASUNDARAM s 
Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOU- 
SING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Officers entitled for type 
VIII accommodation have to wait for no 
time, while the officers entitled for type II 
accommodation have to wait for more than 
20 years for allotment of accommodation ; 

(b) if so, the time likely to be taken, so 
that the Officers of any rank may get their 
turn at the same time after putting certain 
number of years of service ; and 

(c) the details of various types of 
accommodation available and the number of 
Officers allotted accommodation and the 
nurnbei of Officers waiting for accommodation 
in each category ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH ANI) FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
( :H ATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) For type VIII 
accommodation in the general pool at Delhi/ 
New l)dhi f which is allotted to Secretaries / 


58 

Additional Secretaries to the Government of 
India, the date of priority covered is MO- 
1962. If the total service put in by these 
officers under the Central Government/State 
Government is taken into contideration, most 
of them have put in service of over 20 years 
but have not been allotted accommodation of 
entitled type. In type II the data of priority 
running is 31-12-1953. 

(b) There is an acute shortage of 
accommodation m general pool at Delhi /New 
Delhi and it has been possible to provide 
accommodation to nearly 42% of the emplo- 
yees working in eligible offices. It cannot be 
stated by what time it will be possible to pro- 
vide accommodation to Government Servants 
who have put m a certain number of years of 
service. Government have a continuing pro- 
gramme. of constsuction of accommodation in 
the general pool and the progress depends on 
the availability^ of funds, developed land, 

building materials technical capacity, etc. 

• 

(c) A statement showing the demand for 
various types in the general pool in Delhi/Ncw 
Delhi, number of officers provided with 
accommodation and the number of officers 
waiting for allotment is attached. 


Statement 

Demand Jot various typi s in thi general pool in Delhi/ New Delhi y number of provided oj/uers and number 

of officers waiting for allotment 


Type 

Demand 

i 

Total number of provided 
officers 

Number of officers waiting 
for allotment 

1 

2 

3 

4 

i 

26,335 

12,901 

13,374 

11 

39,799 

10,315 

29,481 

111 

14,631 

7,018 

7,613 

IV 

*1,353 

6,036 

3,317 

V 

5,107 

3,481 

1,626 

VI 

1,376 

1,035 

. ^ 

VII 

421 

325 

96 

VIII 

112 

98 

11 


Total 


97,134 


41,269 


55,865 


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AUGUST 16, 1972 


Written insurers 


60 


Staff Strength of Food Corporation of 
India 

1994. SHRI A. S. KASTURE : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) the staff strength, category-wise, in 
Food Corporation of India as on the 1st 
January, 1972 and the number of employees 
belonging to Scheduled Caste/Tribes ; 

(b) whether reservation quota for Sche- 
duled Caste and Scheduled Tribes has been 
maintained ; 

(c) if not, the reasons therefor ; and 

(d) what specific steps Government pro- 
pose to take to make up the shortfall ? 

THE MINISTER OF §TATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) :«(a) Category- 
wise staff strength in the food Corporation of 
India as on the 1st January, 1V72, and the 
number of employees belonging to Scheduled 
Caste/Tribes is as under : 


Category 

Total 

number 

Scheduled 

Caste 

Scheduled 

Tribes 

I 

490 

6 

1 

II 

1371 

53 

— 

III 

18849 

1656 

127 

IV 

11361 

1456 

148 


(b) The staff strength of the Food Corpo- 
ration is mainly comprised of (i) Direct rec- 
ruits (ii) Transferees from the Department 
of Food and (iii) Deputationists from Central 
and State Governments. 

In so far as Direct recruits arc concerned, 
the reservation quoia for Scheduled Caste 
and Scheduled Tribes is being maintained 
by the Goqjoration. 

The Transferees from the Department 
of Food of the Central Government arc 
required to be absorbed by the Corporation 
under section 12 A of the Food Corparations 
Act, 1964 and as such the question of pro- 
viding any reservation quota by the Food 
Corporation of India for the transferees does 
not arise. 

The Deputationists from the Central and 
State Governments are on foreign service 
terms. No question of reservation is involved 
in their case. 


(c) and (d). Do not arise. 

Adulteration of Fertiliser supplied by 
Fertiliser Corporation of India 

1995. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether it has come to the notice of 
Government that out of 2790 bags of ferti- 
liser received by rail at Kolar from the 
Fertiliser Corporation of India Mangalore, 
1 19 bags contained 90 per cent sand and 10 
per cent fertiliser ; 

(b) whether any investigation has been 
made in this connection ; and 

(c) if so, the findings thereof and the 
action taken thereon ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) to (c). 
Yes, Sir. The Food Corporation of India 
(and not the Feitiliscr Corporation ol India) 
has reported that theic was a complaint 
about the adulteration in 119 bags of the 
fertiliser received from the Corporation at 
Kolar. After a preliminary enquiry, the Food 
Corporation of India consider that the adul- 
teration, if any, could not have taken place 
before despatch of the bags by the Food 
Corporation of India, particularly because 
there was no complaint about the quality 
in respect of several thousands of other bags 
simultaneously despatched from Mangalore 
However, the matter is being fuither investi- 
gated in consultation with the State (Jove ru- 
men t. 

Advice allegedly given to State Govern- 
ments to seize cars having Bangla Dcsh 
Nunber Plates 

1996. SHRI RAMKANWAR : Will the 
Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Union Gove rnment have 
advised the State Governments to sci/c all 
cars with Bangladesh number plates ; 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ; and 

(c) how many cars have been seized 
consequently by the State Governments and 
what action, if any, has been taken subse- 
quently ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 'HIE 
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY 



61 


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SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA) 


Written Answers 


62 


affairs and in the ministry of 

SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRl 
OM MEHTA) : (a) No, Sir. 

(h) and (c). Do not arise. 

Working Group for preparation of Draft 
Fifth Five Year Plan 

1997. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN : 

SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF : 

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Planning Commission 
had constituted a Working Group on Co- 
operation for preparation of the Draft Fifth 
Five Year Plan ; and 

(b) if so, its terms of reference and 
fiin< tioning of its members ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASMIEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The De- 
partment of Co-operation, at the instance of 
the Planning Commission, have constituted a 
Working Group on Cooperation for formula- 
tion of the 5th Plan. 

(b) The terms of reference and func- 
tioning of the Working Group are given in 
the Statement enclosed. [. Placed in Library . See 
No. L P 33 79/72]. 

Setting up of National Unit for Nutrition 
Monitoring in Rajasthan 

vm. SlIRI NAWAL KISHORE 
SI I ARM A : 

SI 1 RIM ATI SAVITRI SHY AM : 

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND 
FAMILY PLANNING lie pleased to state : 

(a) whcthei some more National Units 
for iNutiition monitoring arc being set up in 
Rajasthan ; and 

(b) if so, the locations thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY 
OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. 
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) and 

(b). A Proposal to set up some more 
Regional Monitoring Centres in diff- 
erent States is under consideration of the 
Indian Council of Medical Research. 
T hose Centres, if put into operation, may 
be located one each in the States of Punjab, 
Rajasthan, Orissa, Assam, Haryana and 
Bihar, 


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64 


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Alleged Double Charge of Air Fares by 
Professor of Sociology, 1. 1. T. Delhi 

2001. SHRI JAGANNATH RAO JOSHI: 
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether a Professor of Sociology at 
the I. I. T., Delhi on having travelled to 
Dibrugarh, Madras and Calcutta Universities 
has double charged his air fare by buying a 
circular round trip ticket while charging 
Delhi-Dibrugarh, Delhi-Madras, Delhi-Cal- 
catta air fare from the Universities ; and 

(b) if so, the action taken on this irregu- 
larity ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) and (b). 
A complaint to this effect was received in 
February, 1972. The Institute obtained all 
the relevant information from the various 
authorities concerned and referred the matter 
to the Board of Governors. The Board has 
appointed a two-man committee to inquire 
into the matter and submit a report. 

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66 


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Import Programme for Fertiliser 

2006. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have finalized 


Fertilizer Import programme for the current 
year ; 

(b) whether Government propose to 
import costly readymade NPK complex fertilizer 
from U. S. A. instead of local mixing of 
cheaper and staight fertilizer elements imported 
from abroad ; and 

(c) whether his Ministry had any discus- 
sion with public sector technologists and 
Department of Economic Affairs on this 
issue ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) NPK complex fertilisers are impor- 
ted to facilitate the market development pro- 
grammes of domestic manufacturers, whose 
factories now under construction will be soon 
producing such fertiliser products. Contracts 
have already been entered into with the 
foreign suppliers for import of complex ferti- 
lisers to be allotted to these manufacturers 
during the year 1972-73. 

The question regarding manufacture of 
NPK complex fertiliser indigenously by impor- 
ting intermediates is being examined in the 
Department with reference to the comparative 
economies involved. 

(c) Yes, Sir. The matter is under further 
consideration of the Ministry of Finance in 
consultation with the concerned Ministries. 

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Request of Central Assistance for Lift 
Irrigation Scheme in U. P. 

2009. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP 
SINGH : Will the Minister of AGRICUL- 


TURE be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of lift-irrigation schemes 
for which the Uttar Pradesh Government has 
asked for Central Government’s assistance ; 

(b) the sites of these schemes ; and 

(c) the decision of the Central Govern- 
ment thereto ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) No such proposal has 
been received from Uttar Pradesh Govern- 
ment for Central assistance. 

(b) and (c). Do not arise. 

Setting Up of Water Boards to Tackle 
Drinking Water Problem in Rural and 

Urban Areas 

» 

2010. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURI : 

SHRI *&. S. SIVASWAMY a 

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND 
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether some States have set up 
Water Boards to tackle the drinking water 
problems in rural and urban areas ; and 

(b) if so, the broad outlines thereof and 
the progress achieved in the matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) and (b). Infor- 
mation is being collected and will be laid 
on the Table of the Sabha when received. 

Appointments to Tribal Development 
Blocks 

2011. SHRI DASARATHA DEB: Will 
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) the reason for not appointing any 
single tribal to the posts of Block Development 
Officer and Project Officer in the Tribal Deve- 
lopment Blocks of Tripura, though there is no 

dearth of Tribal Graduates in Tripura ; and 

• 

(b) whether Central Government propose 
to investigate the matter ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCI- 
AL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) : 
(a) The State Government have intimated that 
the posts of Project Executive officer and 



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Block Development Officer are included in 
the cadre of Tripura Civil Service and 
Tripura Junior Civil Services respectively. 
There is no separate cadre Rules for appoint- 
ment of Project Executive Officer and Block 
Development Officer in Tribal Development 
Blocks. The recruitment to these posts are 
made as per provisions of aforesaid cadre 
rules. 

(b) The State Government have been 
requested to furnish full details in the matter. 

Delhi Slum Area Controlled by Munici- 
pal corporation of Delhi, D. D. A. and 
Land Development Authority 

2012. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : Will 
the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING 
be pleased to state : 

(a) the percentage of Delhi slum area 
controlled by the Municipal Corporation of 
Delhi, Delhi Development Authority and the 
Land and Development Authority separately ; 

(b) whether due to three authorities 
controlling Delhi slum area, it is very diffi- 
cult to coordinate and work in the interest of 
the residents there ; and 

(c) whether there is any proposal to put 
the Delhi slum area under the charge and 
control of one single authonty; if so, when 
a final decision is likely to be taken in this 
connection ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) The Delhi 
slum areas are under the control of the 
Municipal Corporation of Delhi and the Delhi 
Development Authority; the latter administers 
colonies in an area of 1565 acres, where 
squatters arc rehabilitated after being removed 
from the place of squatting. 

(b) and (c) For better administration of 
the slum clearance and improvement scheme, 
a proposal to bring all the slum areas of 
Delhi under one authority is under considera- 
tion. However, it is not possible to indicate 
precisely any time limit by which a final 
decision in the matter could be taken. 

Effect on Road Building Work due to 
Shortfall in Production of Road Rollers 
and Shortage in Steel 

2013. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will 


the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether persistent shoitfall in the 
production of road rollers and acute shortage 
of steel required for bridges and culverts are 
hampering Central Sector road building work 
in the States ; and 

(b) if so, the steps Government propose 
to take in futuie in this direction ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM 
MEHTA) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) With the emphasis on load develop- 
ment, there has been a spuit in the demand 
for road rollers. During the three calender 
years 1969, 1970 and 1971 the production of 
road rollers had only been 335, 386 and 336 
respectively against an annual licenced capacity 
of 1520 road rolleis. This was not sufficient 
to meet even the back log of demands. Letteis 
of intent have been issued icccntly to two more 
manufacturers and the grant of such a letter 
to a third party is being pioccssed. Licences 
are also being given for raw materials and 
components to the three units in produt lion, 
and it is also proposed to grant licence for the 
import of special components also in order to 
increase production. The question of meeting 
the shortfall is therefore engaging the serious 
attention of Government. 

As regards steel, its availability is at 
present below the demand. Fa cry effort is 
being made to improve production by the 
Steel plants through technological improve- 
ments, belter industrial relations etc. Mean- 
while efforts are also being made to import 
additional quantity of steel required for 
execution of Central road/bridge schemes 
during the period of the Fomth Plan. 

Funds to N. D. M. C. Improvement in 
Slum Areas 

2014. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will 
the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have sanctioned 
Rs. 3 lakhs to the New Delhi Municipal 
Committee for canying out impiovcments in 
slum areas in the city ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons for not giving 
grants to the Delhi Municipal Corpoiation 
where much more slum area exists ? 



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THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes. 

(b) The proposals received from the 
Municipal Corporation of Delhi recently are 
under scrutiny. 

Reviews by Planning Commission of 
Crash Programme for Rural Employment 

2015. SHRX SAMAR MUKHERJEE : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether Goveirunent’s attention has 
been drawn to the Planning Commission’s 
review of the crash scheme for rural employ- 
ment in 1971-72 ; 

(b) if so, whetlx i Government ha\c 
noted the Commission's conclusion that the 
scheme* lias tailed to reach the mark in 

1971-72 ; and 

(c) the reasons for this fail uie and the 
steps taken by the Government to fulfil its 
pledges regarding providing of employment 
to 1000 needy poisons m every district ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF XGRICULJ URK (PROF. 
S1IER SINGII) : (a) and (b). No review of 
the Crash Scheme for Rural Employment in 
1971-72 has been made by the Planning 
Commission. No such conclusion has been 
rcac hcd. 

(c) The Go\ eminent do not < onsidei the 
working of the Gia&h Scheme for Rural 
Employment in 1971-72 as a failure. 

The Scheme envisaged an expenditure 
of Rs. 50 nores and the generation of 875 
lakh mandays of employment in a full work- 
ing season of 10 months. The expenditure 
reported so far is Rs. 32.37 crorcs and this 
has resulted in the generation of 808.22 lakh 
mandays of employment. It may be added 
that information in regard to employment is 
collected in terms of mandays and not in 
terms oi number of persons employed as the 
period of employment varies from person to 
person and from project to project. It is 
roughly estimated that more than 3.2 lakhs of 
persons have been employed during the year 
for varying periods. This woiks out on an 
average to 957 persons per district for the 348 
districts for which proposals were approved. 
In actual fact, however, the position varies 


from State to State and district to district 
and the performance of some have not come 
up to the mark. It is expected that with the 
completion of administrative arrangements, 
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1972-73. 

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Hook Worm Infection in Human Body 


2017. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN : Will 
the Minister of HEALT H AND FAMILY 
PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the team headed by Prof. 
R. Vishwanathan of Vallabhai Patel Chest 
Institute, Delhi and other medical authorities 
have made suney that ever}’ third man had 
hook woim infection and varying degrees of 
anaemia ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Government 
thereto ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 



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PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) and (b). A team 
of experts from Raj end ra Memorial Research 
Institute of Medical Sciences, Patna, headed 
by Dr. R. Vishwanathan conducted a random 
representative morbidity survey in Dhanbad 
Jharia Coal Mines Area. It was found that 
39 2% of the miners examined had hook-worm 
infection and 41.97% suffered from anaemia 
with haemoglobin less than 12 grams. No 
detailed report of the team has been received. 

Agreement with Foreign Countries for 
exchange of Experts in Agricultural 
Science 

2018. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to refer to the reply given SQ, 16 on 3 1st 
July, 1972 regarding talks cm Indo-Egyptian 

cooperation in Agriculture and state : 

»• 

(a) whether Egypt is the first country 
with which India has entered* into the agree- 
ment for exhange of information and experts 
in agricultural science and technology for 
mutal benefit of the two countries ; and 

(b) if not, which are the other countries ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b). 
Yes Sir. We have entered into a similar 
agreement with U. S. S. R. in 1971. 

Acquisition of India Office Library in 
London 

2019. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will the 
Minister of EDUCATIGN AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) when India and Pakistan have 
entered into peace pact and normalization of 
relations is taking place, whether any efforts 
are in progress fur the acquisition of India 
office Library at London ; 

(b) the progress made in this direction 
so far ; and 

(c) the difficulties still remaining 
unsolved ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) : 
(a) to (c). Draft Agreement for arbitration 
received from the U. K. Government has 
been under examination. The context in which 
discussions regarding the India Office Library 


have been taking place, has changed. Renewed 
discussions between the parties concerned may 
be necessary. 

Crash Programme for Rural Employ- 
ment in Goa 

2020. SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKO- 
DKAR : Will the Minister of AGRICUL- 
TURE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Goa Government is to 
execute the crash programme for rural employ- 
ment ; and 

(b) if so, whether the Goa Government 
has decided to create special technical cell for 
the purpose ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) No, Sir. 

Steps to obtain Adequate Supplies of 
Fertilisers 

2021. SHRI N. K. SANGHI : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether there is world shortage of 
fertilisers and, if so, how it is likely to affect 
India ; 

(b) the quantum of fertiliser required to 
meet the country's needs over that available 
from indigenous production ; and 

(c) whether the commitments made by 
foreign suppliers against our firm orders will 
be fully honoured and if not, the steps 
Government propose to take to obtain 
adequate supplies ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir. 
There is relative scarcity of Fertiliser in the 
world market. This may make it difficult for 
Government of India to import required 
quantities at satisfactory prices. 

(b) During Kharif 1972, it is expected 
that the country will require about 8.70 lakh 
tonnes of N, 2.87 lakh tonnes of P and 1.38 
lakh tonnes of K20 of this 5.64 tonnes of N, 
2.42 lakh tonnes of P205 and 0.75 lakh tonnes 
of K20 will be available from the stock in the 
country and the domestic production. The 
balance of requirements i. e. 3.06 lakh tonnes 

of N, 0.45 lakh tonnes of P and 0.63 lakh 
tonnes K20 have to be met from imports. 



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(c) It is likely that there will be some 
shortfalls in supply by foreign suppliers. 
However, Minerals and Metals Trading 
Corporation and Department of Supply have 
been alerted to keep a close watch on the 
shipment position which is also being reviewed 
frequently in this Department. 

Government have also taken a number of 
steps to ensure that the available quantities 
of fertilisers are put to the most productive 
use. The steps taken include (a) take over of 
30% of the domestic production of Ammonium 
Sulphate to be distributed by the Central 
Fertiliser Pool, (b) promulgation of orders 
under the Essentia] Commodities Act making 
it legally obligatory for the manufacturers to 
supply the committed quantities of fertilisers 
to the States and (c) plans by State Govern- 
ments to use fertilisers for priority crops in 
the interests of maximising production. 

Stoppage of grant of Loans by Neemnch 
Central Cooperative Bank for irrigation 
purposes 

2022. DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEY : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether Reserve Bank of India has 
stopped Neemuch Central Cooperative Bank, 
Mandsaur (Madhya Pradesh) from granting 
loans for irrigation purposes ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b). 
The Neemuch Central Cooperative Bank's 
programme for financing the sinking of wells 
was studied by an officer of the Reserve 
Bank. The study revealed that the Bank’s 
medium-term loans policy for this purpose 
was defective in certain important aspects. 
Although there were 56,000 existing irrigation 
wells in the District, the bank had programmed 
to finance another 1,000 new wells in 71-72* 
The land development bank had a separate 
scheme for financing 4,000 new dug wells. 
Certain technical studies by the Director of 
tube-wells were considered necessary to ensure 
that a large increase in the number of wells 
would not adversely affect the availability of 
water in the existing wells due to over- 
exploitation of ground water resources. The 
Reserve Bank, therefore, restrained the 
Neemuch Central Cooperative Bank from 
issuing fresh loans for construction of wells 
for the present till the defects noticed by the 


study were removed. However, the Reserve 
Bank released a further limit of Rs. 10 lakhs 
to enable the bank to issue the remaining 
instalments of the loans in respect of wells 
already financed partially and under construc- 
tion so that they could be completed quickly. 
The whole effort is to ensure that the bank 
follows a rational and scientific policy in 
financing the construction of wells. 

Addiction to drinks among Delhi Uni- 
versity Students 

2023. SHRI PRABODH CHANDRA: 
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether addiction to drinks is increas- 
ing amongst the students of Delhi University ; 
and 

(b) if so, the steps Government have 
taken to prevent this evil ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN): (a) The 
Delhi University has intimated that there are 
no reports to show that addiction to drinks is 
increasing among the students of the Uni- 
versity. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Setting up of Rural Road Commissions 

2024. SHRI SHRIKISHAN MODI : 

SHRI P. GANGADEB : 

Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether any decision has been taken 
for setting up of Rural Road Commissions at 
the Centre and in the States ; and 

(b) if so, the outlines of the decision 
taken in the matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI 
OM MEHTA) : (a) No, Sir. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Muld-Lingual Figures on Number Plates 
of Vehicles* 

2025. SHRI VEKARIA : 

SHRI AMAR NATH CHAWLA : 

Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have decided 



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to end the multi-lingual figures on the number 
plates of vehicles in different States ; and 

(b) If so, the manner in which the 
change is to be brought about ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM 
MEHTA) : (a) and (b). The Government 
of India have appointed a Working Group in 
July 1972, to examine Lhe question regarding 
the language to be used for the dtsplay of 
registration marks on motor vehicles. Further 
action in the matter will be taken after this 
Group’s repoit has been received and exa- 
mined. 

Admission of Women Patients in Lady 
Hardinge Hospital, fiew Delhi 

2026. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE 
SHARMA : Will the Minister of HEALTH 
AND FAMILY PL\N.\TNC % be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether the Board of Directors of the 
Lady Hardinge Hospital, New Delhi have 
instructed for admission of all the women 
patients in the Hospital but they have not 
sanctioned an increase in the number of beds 
in the Hospital, if so, whether more than one 
patient arc provided one bed ; 

(b) whether no attention is paid to patients 
particularly women at the time of delivery 
and even supply of water is not adequate to 
meet the minimum demand during winter 
period ; and 

(c) w'hcther Government have appointed 
a Committee to go into the details and to 
attend to such complaints if so, the findings 
thereof ? 

TIIE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) At present 

there are 580 beds in this Hospital and this 
is not sufficient to meet the demands of the 
public. The guiding principle is not to refuse 
admission of any case requiring immediate 
medical care. Instructions have been issued 
not to put more than one patient in one bed. 

. (b) No. 

(c) On certain allegations received, the 
Additional Diiector General of Health Services 


has been asked to conduct an enquiry. His 
report has not yet been received. 

Request from States for Increased Quota 
of Fertilisers 

2027. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE 
SHARMA : Will the Minister of AGRICUL- 
TURE be pleased to state : 

(a) the names of the States who have req- 
uested the Central Government to increase 
their quota of fertilisers ; 

(b) the extent to which the Government 
propose to increase their quota of fertilisers ; 
State- wise ; and 

(c) the time by which the increased ferti- 
lisers will be supplied State- wise ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANN AS AH EB P. SHINDE) : (a) The quar- 
terly allotments of Pool fertiliser for the July- 
Septcmber quarter were issued in July 72 after 
taking into account the requirements of diffe- 
rent States for Kharif 72 the supplies already 
made in April- June 72 period and the require- 
ments of stock building for Rabi 1972-73. 
After the issue of quarterly allotment, requests 
for enhancement have been received from 
certain States on various grounds including 
the need for the Pool making good alleged 
shortages in the promised supplies by domes- 
tic manufacturers. These States are Punjab, 
Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh, West Bengal, 
Himachal Pradesh, and Pondicherry. 

(b) and (c). The matter is proposed to 
be reviewed in all its aspects including latest 
trends and needs of consumption and the 
availability of domestic and imported ferti- 
lisers, in the Zonal Conferences scheduled to 
be held in Septunbcr-October 1972 and adjust- 
ments in Pool Allotments and supplies will be 
made in the light of that review. 

Construction of Road connecting New 
Delhi with Old Delhi 

2028. SlIRI NAWAL KISHORE 
SHARMA : Will the Minister of WORKS 
AND HOUSING be pleased to state : 

(a) the starting, termination and new 
alignment to be provided between New Delhi 
and Old Delhi by road through the New 
Delhi Municipal Committee new building 
under construction ; 

(b) the time by which the construction 
of the road is to commence ; 



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(c) whether the road to be constructed 
will have any adverse effect on Con nought 
Place, New Delhi ; and 

(d) if so, the main features thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) As per Master 
Plan for Delhi, a new road connection is pro- 
posed between the Old Delhi and New Delhi. 
The alignment goes along the Turkman Gate, 
Ranjit Singh Marg joining School Lane by 
an overbridge on the railway, then link School 
Lane, Tolstoy Marg and extension of Tolstoy 
Marg upto Parliament Street. There is at 
present no proposal for the extension of this 
alignment from Parliament Street through the 
New Delhi Municipal Committee's new 
building. 

(b) The scheme has not yet been finalised. 

(c) *and (d). No, Sir. 

Inclusion of Kudumbi and Vellan Com- 
munity in List of Scheduled Castes 

2029. SHRI G. K. CHANDRAPPAN : 
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whethei Government have received 
any representation for the inclusion of the 
Kudumbi Community and the Vellan commu- 
nity of Kerala in the list ol Scheduled Castes ; 
and 

(b) if so, the decision taken thereon ? 

THE DEPUTN MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) : 
(a) Yes, Sir. In respect of Kudumbi and 
Velan Communities. 

(b) The whole question of revision of list 
of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes is 
under consideration. 

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City of Delhi 

2031. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI : 
Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- 
ING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Delhi Development autho- 
rity had prepared and published a draft zonal 
plan for the walled city of Delhi ; if so, the 
broad outlines thereof ; 

(b) whether Government received a 
number of representations against this pro- 
posal ; and 

(c) if so, the reaction of Government there- 
to ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) *Yes, Sir. Five 
plans have been published for inviting objec- 
tions and suggestions. The area of the walled 
city has been divided into 14 zones. The plans 
have been prepared in accordance with the 
recommendations of the Master Plan. While 
preparing these plans, the area of each zone 
has been divided into three categories, i. e. 



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area under conservation, rehabilitation and 
clearance/redevelopment. 

(b) Yes, Sir. Over 800 objections /sugges- 
tions have been received. 

(c) These objections/suggestions will be 
examined in detail by the Delhi Development 
Authority and the final draft prepared keeping 
in view the public opinion. The final draft 
will then be sent to Government for approval. 

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Salvage of Sub-Standard Rice unearthed 
ih West Bengal 

2033. SHRI N. K. SANGHI ; Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state 
how much of the sub-standard rice unearthed 
from Food Corporation of India Godown in 
West Bengal could be salvaged and how the 
rest has been disposed of ? 


THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : The stocks of 
non-Bengal raw rice are subjected to pre-ins- 
pection by the State Government's Inspectors 
in the godowns of the Food Corporation of 
India in West Bengal. Such stocks as are 
declared as sub-standard judged by the State 
Government’s specifications which arc slightly 
more stringent than the uniform specifications 
of the Government of India, are subjected 
to cleaning through the cleaning machines. 
As such, the cleaning of non-Bengal raw rice 
before issue has become a regular feature. 
The rice after cleaning is accepted by the 
State Government. The fine dust and small 
brookens collected as a result of cleaning arc 
disposed of as poultry feed in accordance with 
the standing procedure. 

The actual quantity cleaned and issued 
during this year as a result of pre- inspection 
by the State Government is being ascertained. 

Tuberculosis in States 

2034. SHRI DH ARAM RAO AFZAL- 
PURKAR : 

SHRI BHARAT SINGH 
CHAUHAN : 

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND 
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of persons in the country 
suffering from tuberculosis State-wise ; and 

(b) the number of new T. B. Hospitals 
Government planned to open in each State 
during the Fourth Five Year Plan and the 
amount of money sanctioned for this purpose ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P, 
GHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Tuberculosis 

is not a notifiable disease and as such, the 
precise data regarding the exact number of 
persons suffering from tuberculosis in the coun- 
try is not available. However, the estimated 
number of the persons suffering from the 
disease is given in the statement laid on the 
Table of the House. [Placed in Library. See No. 
LT. 3380/72]. 

(b) During the Fourth Five Year Plan it 
has been proposed to establish 2500 TB beds 
for which a sum of Rs. 227.00 lakhs has been 
allocated for various State/Union Territory 
Governments. A statement showing T, B. 
Isolation beds proposed to be established in 



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the States/Union Territoiies during Fourth 
Plan period is laid on the Table of the House. 
[Placed in Library. See No. LT. 3380/72]. 

Capitation Fee for Admission to Private 
Medical Colleges 

2035. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU : 

SHRI K BALADHANDAYU- 

THAM : 

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND 
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of private medical colleges 
now functioning in the country and the 
number of them that arc recognised ; 

(b) whether some Colleges are function- 
ing without pioper staff and equipments ; 

(c) whether all the private Medical Col- 
leges have taken huge amount of money from 
students as capitation fee ; and 

(d) if so, the steps taken by Government 
to discourage the functioning of unrecognised 
colleges and to eliminate the practice of taking 
capitation fee from students 7 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) There arc four- 
teen pnvate medical colleges functioning in 
the country. Out of this, five medical colleges 
have yet to be recognised. 

(b) Yes It has been reported that some 
of these colleges have not the full complement 
of stair and cquipnv nt. 

(c) No. Out of fourteen piivatc medical 
colleges only nine are charging capitation fees 
fiom students. 

(d) The Government of India have already 
requested the State Governments and Univer- 
sities to discouiage the starting of any more 
medical colleges in the private sector, on the 
basis of charging capitation fees unless the 
State Governments/Universities arc satisfied 
with their financial viability and capacity to 
maintain the standards laid down by the 
Medical Council of India. 

Review of Land Reforms by Planning 
Commission 

2036. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU : 

SHRI B. V. NAIK: 

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 


pleased to state : 

A 

(a) whether the Planning Commission has 
recently published a review of the country’s 
land reform measures since 1947; 

(b) if so, the main features of that review; 

and 

(c) the steps Government intend to take 
on the basis of the review? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The Plann- 
ing Commission has not recently published any 
review of the country’s land reform measures. 
The concerned Division of the Planning Com- 
mission has, however, prepared a working 
paper reviewing the progress of land reforms 
in the country. • 

(b) Statement* is laid on the Table of 
the House [ Placed in Library. See No. LT- 
3381/72]. 

(c) The paper was prepared to initiate 
discussions in the Planning Commission and 
does not necessarily project the views of the 
Planning Commission on the subject of land 
reforms. Hence there L no question of the 
Government taking any steps on the basis of 
the paper. 

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Bus Service in Delhi since D.T.U. take over 

2011. SHRI K. BALADHANDAYU- 
THAM: Will the Minister of SHIPPING 
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 

(a) whether there has been no substantial 
improvement in ljus services in the capital 
since the Delhi Transport Undertaking was 
taken over by the Centre , 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; and 

(c) the steps taken to improve bus trans- 
port in the capital ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
DEPARTMEN V OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM 
MEHTA) : (a) to (c). A number of steps have 
been taken since 3-11-1971 when the manage- 
ment of the City Transport Services was transfer- 
red to a statutory Road Transport Corporation 
to improve the operation of the bus services in 
the capital. These have resulted in increase in 
the number of buses on road, i eduction in the 
working deficits and missing of trips and be- 
tter utilisation of vehicles. This has enabled 
the Corporation to introduce new routes and 
aLo extend a few existing ones. Shuttle ser- 
vices have also been introduced from hospitals 
in the evenings for the convenience of visitors. 
Additional special trips have been provided 
for students. Steps have also been taken to 
provide additional depots, which will help in 
the improved maintenance of the fleet. 

Orders have been placed for 291 addi- 
tional buses. Out of these, 133 have already 
been added to the fleet. The remaining vehi- 
cles are also expected to be received and com- 
missioned into service by October, 1972. It 
has also been decided to acquire 425 more 
buses during 1972-73 and 1973-74, Out of this 
250 arc expected to be received by the end of 
current financial year and the balance in the 
next one. With the augmentation of the fleet, 
the services are expected to further improve. 



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91 


9i 

Setting up of a Commission to suggest 
Prices of Agricultural Produce 

2042. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether there is any proposal under the 
consideration of Government to set up a Com- 
mission to suggest prices of agricultural pro- 
duce commensurate with the increased cost of 
productions; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Government in 
this regard ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEBP. SHINDE) : (a) and (b). There 
is already an Agricultural Prices Commission 
which makes recommendations in regard to 
support/procurement prices for major agricul- 
tural commodities after consic^ration of diffe- 
rent factors, including the interests of the pro- 
ducer and the consumer. Fqr doing so, it 
takes into account the available data on cost 
of production and other relevant information. 
There is no proposal for constituting another 
similar body. 

Population of Shepherds and Steps for 
there Uplift 

2043. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF : 

SHRI RANABAHADUR SINGH : 

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE 
be pleased to state : 

(a) the population of shepherds in India 
at present statewise ; and 

(b) the steps Government have taken to 
improve their social and economic conditions 
of this community ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) The figures for popula- 
tion of Shepherds in India for 1971 Census are 
not yet available. The population of the She- 
pherds in India according to 1961 Census is as 
per statement enclosed. 

(b) As a par\ of the Fourth Five Year Plan 
for Sheep Development, the State Governments 
have sanctioned schemes which provide for dis- 
tribution of stud quality rams required for im- 
provement of the local sheep, provide health 
cover, guidance to the sheep rearing commu- 
nity for improving the sheep-husbandry prac- 
tices, scientific shearing of sheep, preparation 
of wool for the market. Large scale sheep shear- 


ing, wool grading and marketing programme 
has been taken up in the States of Rajasthan, 
J & K, Himachal Pradesh, Punjab, Haryana, 
Madhya Pradesh, Gujarat and Mysore with the 
assistance of U N.D.P. Under this programme, 
benefits of mechanical shearing are made availa- 
ble to the sheep rearing community. In certain 
States, wool is being purchased from the sheep 
breeders which is sold at the Wool Grading 
Centres, after grading. 

Statement 

Population of Sheep Rearing Community in India 


1961-Census 

ZnnejState 

Persons 

India 

372,988 


States 


1 . 

Andhra Pradesh 

158,424 

2. 

Assam 

6 

3. 

Bihar 

7,590 

4. 

Gujarat 

6,003 

5. 

Jammu & Kashmir 

2,562 

G. 

Kerala 

192 

7. 

Madhya Pradesh 

5,423 

8. 

Madras 

1,718 

9. 

Maharashtra 

57,790 

10. 

Mysore 

56,479 

11. 

Orissa 

770 

12. 

Punjab 

13,521 

13. 

Rajasthan 

39,254 

14. 

Uttar Pradesh 

19,973 

15. 

West Bengal 

642 


Union Territories 


1 . 

Andaman & Nicobar Islands 

— 

2. 

Delhi 

48 

3. 

Himachal Pradesh 

2,475 

4. 

Laccadive, Minicoy Islands 

— 

5. 

Manipur 

— 

6 

Tripura 

49 

7. 

Dadra & Nagar Haveli 

U 

8. 

Goa, Daman & Diu 

— 

9. 

Pondicherry 

57 

10. 

N. E. F. A. 

— 

11. 

Nagaland 

— 

12. 

Sikkim 

1 


Source : Census of India, 1961. Vol. I, 
Part II — B(i) p. 389. 



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New Varieties of Cotton Developed by 
University of Agricultural Science, 
Bangalore 

2044. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHAR1EF * 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether two new varieties of Cotton 
developed by the University of Agricultural 
Science, Bangalore have been released by 
Union Government ; and 

(b) if so, the extent to which it will 
help India in saving foreign exchange ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
AN NAS AH EB P. SHINDE) : (a) The All- 
India Cotton Workshop held at Surat in 
June, 1972 had recommended the release of 
the two new cotton strains hybrid Varalaxmi 
and variety GS-2 3 evolved by the University 
of Agricultural Sciences, Bangalore. These 
varieties have been recommended for culti- 
vation in Mysore State. As per the present 
procedures regarding the release of varieties 
the State Variety Release Committees are 
competent to release the varieties recommen- 
ded bv the Workshop for their States. 

[\>) Of the above two varieties, Vara- 
laxrni hybrid has been found suitable for 
spinning up to 60s. In a test conducted at 
one of the mills in Bangalore it has been 
reported as suitable for replacing Sudan/ 
Egyptian mixings used in that mill. 

The saving in foreign exchange will 
depend on the commercial production and 
large scale utilisation by the textile industry. 
It is too early to estimate the saving in 
foreign exchange at this stage. 

Scheme for Joint Farming of Surplus 
Land 

2045. SHRI HARI SINGH : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state whether Government are adopting a 
policy of joint farming of all surplus land in 
the country instead of distribution it to the 
landless individuals ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : It was sug- 
gested in the Second and Third Five Year 
Plans that in the matter of settlement of land 
acquired inconsequence of the application 
of ceilings, tenants displaced as a result of 
resumption of land for personal cultivation 


farmers with uneconomic holdings and land- 
less workers should receive preference. It 
was also proposed that settlement should be 
made, as far as possible, on cooperative lines. 
The Chief Ministers’ Conference which was 
held on 23rd July, 1972 has recommended 
that in the matter of distribution of surplus 
land priority should be given to the landless 
agricultural workers particularly those belong- 
ing to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. 
They will be encouraged to take up joint 
farming but will not be compelled to do so. 

Steps to preserve Gond (Swamp Deer) 
from extinction 

2046. SHRI HARI SINGH : 

SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: 

Will the Minuter of AGRICULTURE 
be pleased to state ; 

(a) whether ftovernment are aware that 
the Gond (Swamp deer) a rare species in the 
world, is on tfie verge of extinction in the 
country ; and 

(b) if so, steps Government propose to 
check the extinction of gond (Swamp deer) in 
the country ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). The infor- 
mation is being collected and will be laid on 
the Tabic of the Sabha in due course. 

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Inclusion of Sports as Part of Education 

2048. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- 
THAM : Will the Minister of EDUCATION 
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have received 
any proposal from the President of the All 
India Council of Sports to include Sports as 
a part of education ; 

(b) if so, the gist of the proposals ; and 

(c) the decision of Government on it ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE (STIR I K. S. RAMA- 
SWAMY) : (a) to (c). No Sir. 

Development of Shipping Facilities 

2049. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD 
MANDAL : Will the Minister of SHIPPING 
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether any steps have been taken by 
Government for the development of shipping 
facilities particularly in view of the limitations 
imposed by the Shipping Conference with 
which India is concerned ; and 

(b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- 
ARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : 
(a) and (b), Development of shipping facilities 
is one of the objectives of the Government 
and the Fourth Plan envisages a target of 
40.00 lakhs grt. of which 35 lakhs grt. are to 
be in operation and 5.00 lakhs grt. on order. 
The steps taken by Government for the 
development of shipping arc given below : 

L Reservation of coastal trade to 
national shipping. 

2. setting up of Shipping Corporation 
in the public sector. 



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3. Development of ship building industry 
in the public sector. 

4. Grant of preference to Indian ships 
in the allotment of Government 
controlled cargoes. 

5. Grant of loans on concessional terms 
to Indian shipping companies for the 
acquisition of additional tonnage. 

6. Making available foreign credit for 
the acquisition of tonnage. 

7. Grant of development rebate of 
40 percent of cost of ship — available 
upto the end of the 4th plan. 

8. Introduction of bilateral shipping 
services with countries like USSR, 
Poland, UAR and GDR. 

9. Enhancement of the limit of foreign 
participation in the shipping industry 
from 25 to 40 percent with effect 
from 1963. 

10. Revision and consolidation of the 
Merchant Shipping Laws. 

1 1 . Establishment of training institutions 
for personnel. 

12. Improvement of the system of re- 
cruitment of seamen and the esta- 
blishment of the Seamen’s Employ- 
ment Offices. 

13. Establishment of advisory bodies like 
the National Shipping Hoard, Mer- 
chant Navy Tiaming Board and the 
National Welfare Board. 

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Text Books In M. P. State Showing J & K 
as an Independent Country 

2052. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH 

MALIK : 

SHRI RAM PRAKASH 

Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether some text books in Madhya 
Pradesh State show Jammu and Kashmir 
State as an independent country along with 
Ceylon and Nepal ; and 

(b) if so, the action taken against such 
publishers ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA- 
SWAMY) : (a) and (b). Necessary informa- 
tion is being collected and will be laid on the 
Table of the Sabha as soon as possible. 

Effect on delivery Schedules of Vlsakha- 
patnam Shipyard due to npn-Adherence 
to delivery Schedules by Indigenous 
Suppliers 

2053. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY: 
Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether non-adherence to delivery 



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schedules by indigenous suppliers has upset 
the delivery schedules of the Visakhapatnam 
shipyard, blocked huge working capital and 
retarded implementation of the Rs. 8 crore 
development plan for over two years ; and • 

(b) if so, the manner in which Govern- 
ment propose to relieve the situation ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI 
OM MEHTA) : (a) and (b). It is true to 
a certain extent that non-adherence to delivery 
schedules by certain indigenous suppliers is 
one of the several factors contributing to the 
delay and consequential blocking up capital 
and retardation of the implementation of 
development plans of Hindustan Shipyard 
Limited Government, hqwever, have ende- 
avoured to relieve the situation. The 
Shipyard's technical officer* regularly visit the 
suppliers in order to expedite and to reassess 
their capacity. Government also favourably 
consider proposal for importing of equipment 
which cannot be supplied indigenously. 
Recently, Government have set up a Steering 
Committee to examine inter alia the capacity 
of indigenous firms to adhere to delivery terms 
and to watch the progress with reference to 
such capacity. 

New Scheme of Agricultural Credit for 
Small, Medium and big Farmers 

2054. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
refer to the reply given to Unstarred Ques- 
tion No. 196 on the 15th November, 1971, 
regarding New policy to provide credit to 
agriculturists, and state the progress made in 
respect of scheme for agricultural credit to 
meet the needs of small, medium and big 
farmers in the country ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : The Fourth 
Plan policy relating to agricultural credit in 
favour of smaller farmers was given in reply 
to the Lok Sabha Question No. 196 There 
is no scheme for agricultural credit to meet 
the needs of small, medium and big farmers in 
in the country. As mentioned in the earlier 
reply, the Government policy is to orient the 
loaning policy and procedures of the financ- 
ing institutions in favour of smaller farmers. 
Relaxations have been made in the procedures 
followed by the cooperative institutions like 


share capital to be collected and security 
requirements in favour of the small farmers ; 
commercial banks also followed liberalised 
patterns is lending to the small farmers. The 
Agricultural Refinance Corporation has exten- 
ded concession of 100% refinance for schemes 
in the Small Farmers Development Agency / 
Marginal Fanners and Agricultural Labourers 
Agencies' areas upto 30th June, 1973. 

The available data indicate that : 

(i) During 1969-70, in ten States and 
five Union Territories, out of the total of Rs. 
403 crores issued as short and medium term 
loans Rs. Ill crores (27.5%) were advanced 
to land holders upto 2 hectares each ; and Rs. 
23 crores (5.7%) to tenants and agricultural 
labourers. Thus 33.2% of the total advance 
from cooperatives were generally to the weaker 
sections ; 

(ii) Similarly during 1969-70, in ten 
States and two Union Teinlories, out of a 
total of Rs. 88 31 crores, issued as long-term 
loans by cooperative land development banks, 
Rs. 21.93 crores, i. e. about 25 c /o were to 
cultivators having holdings upto two hectares. 

(iii) As on 25-12-1970, out of Rs. 184.26 
crores outstanding, under-direct finance for 
agriculture, from the fourteen nationalised 
commercial banks and State Bank of India 
Group, Rs. 40.55 crores representing 22%, 
were to farmers with holdings upto five acres 
each ; 

(iv) The Credit Guarantee Scheme 
covered small loans (upto Rs. 2,500 for short- 
term production purposes and upto Rs. 10,000 
for term loans) advanced to farmers and 
agriculturists, amounting to Rs. 438.07 lakhs 
by the end of June, 1971, This rose to Rs. 
715.51 lakhs by 30th September, 1971. 

Foreign Agricultural Experts Working 
in the Country 

2055. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) the number of foreign agricultural 
experts who are at present in the country ; 
and 

(b) whether Government propose to 
reduce the number of foreign agricultural 
experts ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) 148. 



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(b) It has been the consistent policy of 
the Government to have only those Foreign 
Experts in the country as are considered 
absolutely indispensable in their respective 
fields. The position is teviewed periodically, 
to implement this policy. 

Sales Centres By F. C. I. 

2056. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether there are some sales centres 
of the Food Corporation of India functioning 
in the country and if so the broad outlines 
thereof ; 

(b) whether the said corporation has 
decided to open some more centres ; and 

(c) if so, the function to be performed 
by those centres ; and the progress achieved 
in the matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANN AS AH EU P. SIIINDE) : (a) to (c). 

The Food Corporation of India had opened 
11 sale* centres between 27.3.1972 and the 
beginning of August, 1972. However, in 
pursuance of the recent decision of the Govern- 
ment to channelise all supplies of foodgrains 
in the Ccntial Pool through the established 
public distribution system, sales of foodgrains 
through the Sales centres have been suspended. 

Standard Pooled Licence Fee for Type 
II Quarters in D. I. Z. Area 

2057. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : 
Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- 
ING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the standard pooled licences 
fee under F. R. 4 5- A per month for the type 
II quarters in DIZ area is Rs. 42.00 ; 

(b) whether some allottees arc being 
charged more than the said rent ; and 

(c) if so, the facts thereof and the reasons 
for the same and the steps taken by Govern- 
ment to reimburse the excess charges already 
collected ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) and (c). The rale of pooled standard 


licence fee of newly constructed multistoreyed 
type II quarters in D. I. Z. area had not 
been fixed at the time of allotment of these 
quarters. The recovery of licence fee was 
commenced at 10% of the emoluments of the 
allottees in order to avoid accumulation of 
arrears. In some cases, where 10% of the 
emoluments happen to be more than the 
standard pooled licence fee, the amount 
recovered in excess will be refunded or adjus- 
ted against future recoveries after a review of 
such accounts is completed. 

Priority Reached for Allotment of 
Accommodation to Central Government 
Employees 

2058. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : 

SHRI HUKAM CHAND 
KAGHWAI : 

Will the Minister of WORKS AND 
HOUSING be pissed to state : 

(a) the date of priority reached for the 
allotment of residential accommodation to the 
Central Government Employees in Types IV, 
III and II quarters on the 1st August, 1972 
in the Capital ; 

(b) whether some applications have been 
asked to cover certain date of priority for 
each Type if so, the facts thereof and the 
expected date to be covered in each type ; 
and 

(c) the steps taken by Government to 
provide the accommodation to those employees 
who have put more than 20 years of service 
and are without any shelter ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) The dates of 
priority, as covered on the 1st August, 1972, 
is so far as general pool accommodation at 
Delhi/New New/Delhi is concerned, are as 
under : — 

Type II = 1-12-1953 

Type III = 2- 7-1945 

Type IV = 11,5-1944 

(b) For the allotment year beginning 
from the 1st August, 1970 applications were 
invited on a restricted basis and the dates of 
priority upto which applications in these types 
were invited are as under : — 

Type II = 31-12-1955 



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Type 111 31-12-1950 

Type IV = 31-12-1948 

These dates were determined keeping in 
view the vacancies likely to become available 
during that allotment year and the new units 
likely to be completed. 

(c) Duiing the remaining period of the 
Fourth Five Year Plan, it is expected that 
3,772 new units would be added in lower 
types to the general pool in Delhi and it is 
likely that Government servants with over 20 
years of service will be provided accommoda- 
tion on addition of these units. 

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Leprosy in the Country 

2061. SHRI RANABAIIADUR SINGH : 
WU1 the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING be pleased to state ; 

(a) whether Government have undertaken 
any survey to study the pattern and severity 
of incidence of leprosy in the country ; 



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(b) whether Government are aware that 
some villages like Rambida on the North-East 
Border of Madhya Pradesh have more than 
fifty percent villages suffering from advanced 
stages of leprosy ; and 

(c) if so, the steps Government propose 
to help the villages fight the disease ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes. Metho- 

dical and systematic survey has been under- 
taken throughout the country from 1955. 

(b) Madhya Pradesh is a low endemic 
State, the prevalence rate of leprosy being 
less than 0.5% in general. The State Health 
authorities have icported that no village in 
Madhya Piadesh has 50% villagers suffering 
from lepiosy. 

(c) The National Leprosy Control Pro- 
gramme, which is being implemented in the 
country, is a Centrally Sponsored Scheme 
during the Fourth Five Year Plan with 100% 
Central assistance to the State and Union 
Territory Governments. The programme 
provides for establishment of Leprosy Control 
Units, Survey Education and Treatment Cen- 
tres and for upgradation of the Leprosy 
Subsidiary Centres to Leprosy Control Units. 
So far 227 Leprosy Control Units and 1423 
Survey Education and Treatment Centres 
have been established in the country under 
this programme. Besides, 37 Leprosy Control 
Centres by voluntary organisations have also 
been established. So far, 89.3 million popula- 
tion has been cov< i :d and 10.28 lakhs leprosy 
cases have been recorded for treatment. 

In Madhya Pradesh alone, 6 Leprosy 
Control Units, 71 Survey Education and 
one Leprosy Control Centre by a voluntary 
organisation are functioning under this pro- 
gramme. 2.73 million population has been 
coveted and 17,887 cases have been recorded 
for treatment. 

Setting up of Soil Testing Laboratories 

2062. SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) the main features of the pilot scheme 
for the establishment of Soil Testing Labora- 
tories by selected co-operatives, which has 
been formulated by the N. C. D. G. ; 


(b) barring the four Co-operatives in the 
States of Haryana and Maharashtra that have 
been assisted under this scheme, how many 
soil testing laboratories have been set up in 
the country ; and 

(c) the type of assistance given by the 
N. C. D. C. for the purpose of setting up soil 
testing laboratories ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The scheme 
envisages establishment of soil testing labora- 
tories each with a capacity to test 30,000 
samples per year, and involving non-recurring 
expenditure of Rs. 1.7 lakhs and recurring 
expenditure of Rs. 80,000 per annum. 

(b) Under the National Cooperative 
Development Corporation scheme, one co- 
operative in Madhya Pradesh (in addition to 
three in Maha&shtra and one in Haryana) 
has so far been assisted (Apart from these five, 
there are 200 other Soil Testing Laboratories 
in the Country including 31 Mobile Vans). 

(c) Under this scheme, the N. C. D. C. 
provides to the State Governments, outside 
their Plan ceiling, longterm loans @ Rs. 1.70 
lakhs per soil Testing Laboratory towards the 
non-recurring expenditure, which is passed on 
by the State Government to the Society con- 
cerned in the form of share capital 
(Rs 1 lakh) and loan (Rs. 70,000). 

Credit Provided to Marketing Coopera- 
tives for Procurement Stocking and Dis- 
tribution of Fertilisers and other Agricul- 
tural Inputs 

2063. SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) the State- wise allocation of maigin 
money provided by the Central Government 
to Marketing Cooperatives for undertaking 
procurement, stocking and distribution of 
fertilisers and other agricultural imputs from 
1969-70, 1970-71 and 1971-72 ; 

(b) The extent of credit limits extended 
to these Cooperative wholesalers in the various 
States by the Reserve Bank of India, State 
Bank of India, State Cooperatives Banks and 
other nationalised banks for undertaking ferti- 
liser business on a large scale ; and 

(c) the number of Cooperative Whole- 
salers m various States, who have availed of 
this assistance ? 



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107 


THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) i (a) A statement 
(No. 1) is placed on the Table of the House. 
[Placed in Library . See No. LT. 3383/72]. 

(b) The information is being collected. 

(c) A statement (No. 2) is laid on the 
Table of the House. [Placed in Library See. 
No. LT. 3383/72]. 

I. I. T., Delhi Notification Regarding Out- 
standing Temporary Advance 

2064. SHRI ATAL BEHARI VAJPAYEE : 

SHRI JAGANNATHRAO JOSHI : 

Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the authorities of I. I. T., 
Delhi issued a Notification stating that not 
more than Rs. 50,000 should Remain outstand- 
ing temporary advance ; and 

(b) if so, in how many cases it has not 
been adhered to in the last two years and the 
reasons therefor in each case ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) According 
to the information received from the Institute, 
no notification or order was issued fixing 
a ceiling of Rs. 50,000/- for outstanding tem- 
porary advances. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Assistance to Bangla Desh for Develop- 
ing Shipping Industry 

2065. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY : Will 
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Bangla Desh Government 
have sought India’s help in developing the 
shipping industry in that country ; and 

(b) if so, the assistance provided to Bangla 
Desh in this respect ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS AND # SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : (a) and 
(b). The Government of India have agreed 
to supply two ships to Bangladesh, the sale 
price of which will be met from the credit of 
Rs. 60 million made available to that Govern- 
ment. One ship has since been handed over 
to that Government. The Shipping Corpora- 
tion of India have also entered into an agree- 


ment with the Bangladesh Shipping Corpora- 
tion providing amongst others that it will 
make available to Bangladesh Shipping 
Corporation : — 

(i) ships on single voyage/time charter 
basis for export trade of Bangladesh 
with countries covered by U. K. 
North Continent Conference ; 

(ii) space for Bangladesh cargo on other 
liner areas like Australia, USA, Japan 
East and West Africa, Gulf area etc.; 

(iii) arrange charter of vessels to Bangla- 
desh Shipping Corporation at most 
favourable available rates. 

(iv) employ 50 engineering and navigation 
officers on its ships pending acquisi- 
tion of ships by Bangladesh Shipping 
Corporation ; 

(v) services of engineers and masters to 
man Bangladesh ships as and when 
required. 

Development of Inland Water Transport 

2066. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY : Will 
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether any survey has been earned 
out to assess the possibility of developing 
inland water transport in the country, if so, 
the results thereof ; 

(b) whether any plan has been drawn up 
for improving and developing the existing 
water transport facilities in the country , and 

(c) if so, the broad outlines thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS, AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM 
MEHTA) : (a) A committee under the Chaii- 
manship of Shri B. Bhagavati studied the 
problems relating to the existing inland water 
transport system in the country and recom- 
mended a phased programme for its develop- 
ment. 

(b) The Committee recommended 32 
schemes costing Rs. 12.42 crores and 14 schemes 
costing Rs. 14.89 crores for implementation 
during the Fourth Plan and Fifth Plan periods 
respectively. Out of these, 19 schemes costing 
Rs. 5,97 crores have so far been sanctioned. 

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Buckingham Canal ; construction of locks, 
wharves in the Godavari Delta Canals ; com. 
mercial services on the Ganga, Brahmaputra 
and its tributaries ; improvement of Cumbar- 
jua Canal and provision of ferries in Goa, 
purchase of dredging equipment for water- 
ways in Gujarat ; introduction of mechanised 
service on the Jhelum ; widening and deepen- 
ing of Champakara Canal and Chavara- 
Neendakara waterways ; improvement of 
West Coast Canal in Kerala ; lining of Elleru 
and Machalipatnam Canal ; development of 
inland navigation on the Tungabhadra Canal; 
improvement of navigation in Mahanadi ; 
improvement of Krishtapore Canal ; provision 
of ferries on the Hooghly. 

Non-Utilisation of Minor Ports due to 
Lack of Development of Coastal Shipping 

2067. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY : Will 
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the facilities of the minor 
ports in the country laigely remain unutilised 
due to lack of development of the Coastal 
Shipping ; and 

(b) if so, whether Government propose to 
develop Coastal Shipping in a big way ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- 
TARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : 

(a) and (b). Due to draft restrictions and 
inadequate berthing facilities, minor ports are 
catering to very small coastal vessels and sail- 
ing vessels only. In so far as the small vessels 
arc concerned, there has been a dwindling of 
cargo due to competition from the railways 
and road transport. Government has, there- 
fore, set up a Committee for the study in 
depth of the inter-related problems of coastal 
shipping and the traffic facilities at the minor 
ports. 

Shortage of Suphala Type Complex Fer- 
tiliser lu Eastern States 

2069. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether there is an acute shortage of 
Suphala type complex fertiliser in the Eastern 
States ; 

(b) if so, causes thereof ; and 

(c) whether Government propose to 
import enough quantity of Suphala type com- 
plex nutrients ? 


THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) to (c). No 
report has been received in the Ministry of 
acute shortage of Suphala type complex 
fertiliser in the Eastern States. Information 
has been requested from the States in the 
Eastern Zone and will be placed on the Table 
of the Sabha as soon as it is received. 

Reconstruction of Main Body of I. G. 

S. S. R. 

2070. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR : 
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the main body of the Indian 
Council of Social Science Research has been 
reconstituted ; 

(b) whether the Chairman, Member- 
Secretary and Director of Documentation 
continue to be ffora same region ; and 

(c) the reasons of delay in appointing an 
eminent social scientist as permanent Chief 
Executive of I. G. S. S. R. ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) The 
Indian Council of Social Science Research 
was reconstituted w. e. f. 1st Aprli, 1972. 
However, no change was made in the Chair- 
man and the Member-Secretary whose terms 
of office are yet to expire. 

(b) Yes, Sir. But this is merely a coinci- 
dence. 

(c) There has been no delay in the 
appointment of the second Member-Secretary 
of the I. C S. S. R. Under Rule 14 of the 
I. C. S. S. R., the first Member-Secretary of 
the Council has been appointed by the Govern- 
ment of India and is to bold office “till such 
time as a Member-Secretary has been appoin- 
ted by the Council with the approval of the 
Central Government.*’ He works purely in an 
honorary capacity and has expressed his desire 
to be relieved as soon as possible. The Coun- 
cil has advertised the post and appointed a 
Selection Committee. Its ^ proposals are 
awaited. 

List of Non-Official Allotted Houses by 
Directorate of Estates 

2071. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR i 
Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- 
ING be pleased to state t 



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(a) whether a large number of non- 
officials have been allotted houses and flats 
by the Directorate of Estates ; 

(b) whether a list of such allottees will be 
placed on Table of the House ; and 

(c) whether a list of all such licencees 
whose rent arrears are over Rs. 1,000 on July 
15, 1972 will be placed on the Table of the 
House ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) to (c). The in- 
formation is being collected and will be laid 
on the Table of the House. 

Closure of Tea Godown <*f Calcutta Port 

207 2. SHRI JYOTIRMQY BOSU : Will 
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the tea godown of the 
Calcutta Port has been closed ; 

(b) whether as a result of this closure, 
the port ls incurring losses, at the rate of 
about Rs. 21 lakhs per year ; 

(c) whether tea industry and tea exports 
have been adversely effected , if so, the cir- 
cumstances under which the godown had to 
be closed , and 

(d) the steps, if any, being taken in this 
regard ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- 
TARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : 
ia) M/s. Balmer, Lawrie & Go. Ltd., who 
used to function as public warehousemen for 
the tea trade, vacated the three tea warehouses 
of Calcutta Port Commissioners, one in 
October, 1971 and two in January, 1972. 

(b) The Port Commissioners have lost rent 
on these warehouses at the rate of Rs 25.14 
lakhs per annum for the period during which 
they have been vacant. 

(c) According to the Ministry of Foreign 
Trade, the closing of those warehouses caused 
considerable inconvenience to the tea industry 
and the tea exporters but there has not been 
any decline in the exports of tea during the 
period that these warehouses were closed as 


compared to the corresponding periods in the 
earlier two years. 

(d) Till long term alternative arrange- 
ments are made, two of the three warehouses 
have been taken over by the Central Inland 
Water Transport Corporation Ltd., which is 
a Government of India Undertaking, with 
effect from 12th July, 1972. The third ware- 
house has been retained by the Port Commis- 
sioners for being let out for other purposes. 

Pay Scales of Scientists Under Indian 

Council of Agricultural Research 

2073. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) the pay scales of scientists under 
Indian Council of Agricultural Research, 
category- wise ; 

(b) the method and principle of recruit- 
ment and promotion of scientists to higher 
posts ; 

(c) whether the Government are consider- 
ing to revise the pay-scales and change the 
rules and regulations relating to recruitment 
and promotion ; and 

(d) if so, the main features thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) A statement 
is laid on the Table of the House. [Placed in 
Library . See No. LT-3389/72] 

(b) In accordance with the provisions of 
the Bye-laws of the Council, as approved by 
the Government of India, recruitment to all 
Class II and Class I Scientific posts ls made 
on the basis of selection by open competition 
through advertisement on an all-India 
basis. 

(c) and (d). No Sir. The general ques- 
tion of revising the pay-scales of Agricultural 
Scientists will be considered after the report 
of the Third Pay Commission relating to 
scientific employees of the Scientific Depart- 
ments of the Govornment of India and the 
Government decisions thereon have become 
available. Similarly the general question of 
changing the present rules and regulations 
relating to recruitment and promotions to 
scientific posts, will be considered after the 
receipt of the report of the recently constitu- 
ted I. C. A. R. Enquiry Committee. 



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Age Limit for Sterilization 

2078. SIIRI PAMPAN GOWDA : 

SHRI G. K. JAFFER SHARIEF : 

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND 
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have fixed any 
age limit for sterilization ; and 

(b) if so, the age so fixed ? 



117 


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118 


THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY 
OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. 
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) and (b). 
Yea. In case of women the upper age limit 
for sterilization haa been fixed at 45 years. In 
case of men, those above 50 years are not 
generally accepted for the operation. 

Establishment of Cashew Research 
Institution 

2079. SHRI PAMPAN GOWDA: Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether there is any proposal under 
the consideration of Government to establish a 
Cashew Research Institution in the country ; 
and 

(b) if so, the main features thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) No Sir, 
there is no proposal at present under the 
consideration of the Government of India to 
establish a separate Cashew Research Institu- 
tion in the country. Sometime ago a proposal 
establish a Research Institute in Kerala for 
search on Cashew nut shell liquid was 
< eived in the Ministry of Foreign Trade, 
but they have not found it feasible to agree 
the proposal so far. 

The I. C A. R. has already established 
a Central Plantation Crops Research Ins- 
titute with its hcadquartcis at Kasaragod 
in Kerala State which deals with research 
on cashew as well as other Plantation 
Crops. This Institute is likely to be further 
strengthened during this plan inter alia for 
undertaking intensive research on cashew 
cultivation and processing. 

(b) Does notarise. 

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120 


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Missing of Books from Saprn House 
Library, New Delhi 

2084. SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA 
HALDER : 

SHRI M. S. SIVASWAMY ; 

i 

Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleaded to state : 

(a) whether his attention has been drawn 
to the reported missing of more than 600 
books from the Sapru House Library, New 
Delhi ; 


(b) if so, whether any enquiry has been 
constituted ; and 

(c) if not, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) Accord- 
ing to the information furnished by the Indian 
Council of World Affairs, 626 volumes of UN 
Treaty Series were missing from the Library 
of the Council, 

(b) and (c). A repoit has been lodged 
with the Police by the Council and the matter 
is under investigation of the Crime Branch of 
Delhi Police. 

Supply of an exploratory fishing vessel 

under Norwegian Aid Programme 

2085. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN : 

SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : 

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state s 

(a) whether Government have received 
an exploratory fishing vessel free of cost under 
the Norwegian Aid Programme ; 

(b) whether the Government have offered 
this vessel to Kerala Government ; and 

(c) if so, the terms and conditions of the 
offer ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TIIE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) to (c). 
The last exploratory fishing vessel supplied by 
Norway under the ~ successive Agreements 
relating to the Indo-Norwegian Project was 
received in 1966. No vessel received under 
these Agreements, of which the term of the 
final agreement came to a close in March, 
1972. has been offered to the Government of 
Kerala. The vessels are, however, based at 
Cochin. Indications have however been 
received of continued assistance in various 
spheres including fisheries. It is expected 
that some exploratory fishing vessels will be 
supplied free of cost by the Noiwegian Agency 
for International Development. Under the 
procedure prescribed by the Ministry of 
Finance, external assistance in the form of 
commodities and equipment having sale 
value is required to be adjusted against plan 
ceilings. An enquiry was accordingly made 
from maritime State Governments, including 
Kerala whether they would be able to 
accommodate the cost of the vessels, if 



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allotted to them, under their plan ceilings. 
No conditions were prescribed, as the enquiry 
was intended for the purpose of making an 
assessment of the situation on the basis of 
which a suitable arrangement for the utilisa- 
tion of the vessels could be worked out. The 
State Governments expressed inability to 
accommodate the cost of the vessels against 
their Plan ceilings. In accordance with the 
proposals as now formulated, the operational 
plan of the vessels will be drawn up by the 
Central Deep Sea Fishing Organisation, 
which will also co-ordinate the exploratory 
programme of the vessels. The State Govern- 
ments concerned will operate the vessels, and 
the cost of operation is proposed to be met by 
the Central Government. The proposals are, 
however, tentative. It is not expected that the 
vessels will be available before 1974. The 
number of vessels to be supplied and their 
disposition has also not been determined. The 
final arrangements for the organisation of the 
exploratory programme with the vessels will 
be worked out in the light of developments. 

Supply of Boiled Rice to Kerala 

2U86. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether Government are aware that 
the consumers of Kerala show a very marked 
prt ference foi boiled rice and there have been 
frequent complaints about the continued 
supply of i aw rice , 

(b) if so, what steps Government have 
taken for the supply of boiled rice to Kerala ; 
and 

(t) if no steps have been taken, the 
reasons thcicfor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) and (c). Only limited stocks of boiled 
rice are available in the Central pool. Out of 
these a substantial quantity has already been 
allotted to Kerala. Long-term measures to 
encourage production of boiled rice are under 
consideration. 

Sugar Allotment to Kerala 

2087. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) the sugar allotment to Kerala State 
per month ; 


122 

(b) whether Government are aware that 
the present allotment quantity is not suflicient 
to meet the requirement of Kerala ; and 

(c) whether Government would consider 
the sugar allotment on the basis of one Kilo- 
gram per head per mensem ; and if so, when, 
if not, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) The quota of fair price 
levy sugar allotted to Kerala State under the 
voluntary distribution scheme/Partial control 
duTing January, 1972, to August, 1972, is 


given below : 




January 

’72 

7602 

tonnes 

February 

*72 

7600 

tonnes 

March 

'72 

7600 

tonnes 

April 

'72 

7612 

tonnes 

A 

May 

’72 

7G12 

tonnes 

June 

’72 

7612 

tonnes 

July 

’72 

7612 

tonnes 

August 

*72 

7160 

tonnes 

(b) and (c). 

Levy sugar is 

being allotted 


to all the State Governments on a rational 
basis after taking into consideration the popu- 
lation factor, the past pattern of consumption 
during 1967-68 and 1968-69, and the availa- 
bility of sugar. The scale and mode of distri- 
bution within the State is, however, left to 
the discretion of the State Government subject 
to a guide-line that no individual be supplied 
more than 1 kilogram per month and a family 
should not get less than a kilogram per month 
in any case. Due to the extremely limited 
availability of sugar it has not been possible 
at present to accede to the demands of the 
State Governments, including Kerala, for 
increasing their monthly quotas. 

Research in Bacterial Fertilizer 

2088. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP 
SINGH : Will the Minister of AGRICUL- 
TURE be pleased to state whether to avoid 
eutrophication of ‘wet lands' subjected to high 
dosage of chemicals fertilizer, the Govern- 
ment has any plans to piornote research in 
‘bacterial fertilizers’ ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANN AS AH EB P. SHINDE) : In recent years, 
the subject of eutrophication, that is, 



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124 


“unwanted growth of algae” has drawn wide 
attention, due to the consideration that nitro- 
gen is present to the extent 79 per cent in 
the atmosphere and it is a very mobile element 
in air, water and soil The fact remains that 
there arc 40 species of algae and as low as 
0.3 parts per million nitrogen or even half of 
this amount in ordinary rainfall is considered 
enough to support algal growth. In view of 
this, it does not seem to be likely that nitrogen 
from fertilizers may be responsible for eutro- 
phication, specially in developing countries 
like India where according to 1969-70 statis- 
tics, the per hectare consumption of fertilizer 
is hardly l/47th of the developed countries 
like Japan and 1/8 1st of the fertilizer dose 
used in Netherland. There appears, therefore, 
no danger at present to be apportioned to the 
use of chemical fertilizers in out country. 

The research investigations carried out, 
so far at the Central Rice Research Institute, 
Cuttack have not shown any deleterious effect 
in the wet-land soil, due to the use of high 
doses of chemical fertilizers. However, research 
studies have already been undertaken to exploit 
the possibilities of bacterial fertilizers like 
Azotobacter mutants as also the mass culture 
of algae for rice in wet-land soils and intensi- 
fication of the research programme is now 
contemplated. The use of Bacterial fertilizers 
like Rhizobial cultures for inoculating seeds 
of pulses and other legume crops is, however, 
becoming a general practice now. 

Profits expected from Indian Built Luxury 
Liner ‘Harsha Vardhan* 

2089. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP 
SINGH; Will the Minister of SHIPPING 
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state the 
estimated profits expected this year from the 
India built luxury liner “Harsha Vardhan” 
and the routes on which it will ply ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : The Ship- 
yard has contracted to deliver the luxury 
liner “Harsha Vardhana” to the Shipping 
Corporation of India only in October 1973. 
No profits therefore are expected this year. 
This ship will ply between India and East 
Africa. 

Crash Programme for Appointment of 

Primary Teachers in Rural Areas 

2090. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP 
SINGH : Will the Minister of EDUCATION 
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 


(a) whether a crash programme for 
appointment of primary teachers in the rural 
areas evolved by Government is being conti- 
nued this year ; and 

(b) if so, the main features of the scheme 
and its achievements in 1971-72 ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) ; 
(a) A Central Scheme for Providing Employ- 
ment to the Educated Unemployed by Expan- 
sion of Primary Education facilities in States/ 
Union Territories was sanctioned during 1971- 
72 and is being continued during the current 
year. 

(b) The scheme provides for appointment 
of additional primary school teachers, inspectors 
of primary schools, introduction of work expe- 
rience, distribution of free textbooks and 
stationery, supply of midday meals and cons- 
truction of additional class rooms. During 
1971-72 approximately 28,000 teachers, 161 
inspectors and 367 work experience teachers 
were appointed. The target for 1972-73 are 
30,000 teachers, 240 inspectors and 1,000 
work experience teachers. The entire ex- 
penditure is borne by Government of India. 

Pollution of Sea Water by Washing of 
Oil Tankers by Foreign Shipping concerns 
near Bombay Docks 

2091. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP 
SINGH : Will the Minister of SHIPPING 
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether washing of oil tankers by 
foreign shipping concerns in the vie inity ol 
Bombay docks has resulted in dangeious 
pollution of sea-water in that area ; and 

(b) if so, the steps being taken by 
Government to remedy this ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- 
ARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : 
(a) No, Sir. At present oil tankers use 
facilities for cleaning at the Marine Oil 
Terminal (Butcher Island). Oil tankeis are 
not allowed to enter the docks unless they 
have been completely cleaned and certified as 
‘gas free* by the Inspector of Explosives. One 
noticed case of oil pollution is suspected to be 
due to (i) discharge of oil into the sea by oil 
tankers after leaving Butcher Island and (ii) 
outfall of residual oil from leaks in the 
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(b) More rigid enforcement of already 
existing provisions and joint inspection by 
Port Trusts, Naval authorities and other 
concerned interests are being considered to 
prevent recurrence of even such occasional 
pollution. 

Central Assistance for Agricultural and 
Jute Loss in Orissa 

2092. SHRI P. GANGADEB : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether there has been a great agri- 
cultural and jute crop loss in Orissa and if 
so, the reasons therefor ; 

(b) whether the Centre have given any 
relief and assistance to the Orissa Government 
to meet such a loss ; and 

(c) if so, the main features thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
AN NAS AH EB P. SHINDE) ; (a) to (c). 
The relevant information is being collected 
and will be placed on the Table of the Sabha. 

Performance of National Highways Or- 
ganisation, Orissa 

2093. SHRI P. GANGADEB: Will the 
Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT 
he pleased to state : 

(a) whether the National Highways 
Organisation in Orissa has not shown good 
peiformancc for some time past ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor and the 
measures being taken to strengthen Orissa 
Highways Body ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI 
OM MEHTA) i (a) Yes Sir, for the last 3 
y^ars. 

(b) Lack of proper organisation in the 
State P. W. D. mainly and to a limited extent 
shortage of steei and road building equip- 
ments has contributed to the situation. The 
State Government have been persuaded to 
strengthen the National Highway Organisation 
which now consists of 15 Divisions and 
** Circles under the charge of one Chief 
Engineer. They are also procuring more road 
building machinery. Efforts are also being 
made to procure more steel. 


Assessment of Levy Sugar on the baste of 
Levy Prices 

2094. SHRI P. GANGADEB : 

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : 

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state whether Government have 
decided that assessment of levy sugar will be 
made on the basis of the levy prices fixed by 
the Government ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : Yes, Sir. The excise duty 
on levy sugar is assessed on the basis of the 
levy prices notified under the Sugar (Price 
Determination) Order, 1972, for different 
grades of sugar in different zones. 

Progress in completion of Cochin Ship- 
yard 

2095. SHRI M. K. KRISHNAN : Will 
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT be pleased to state : 

(a) the progress made so far in the com- 
pletion of Cochin Shipyard ; 

(b) whether the work is going on as per 
schedule ; and 

(c) if not, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM 
MEHTA) : (a) Approximately 170 acres of 
land have been acquired and another 1.5 
acres have been notified for acquisition for 
extending a railway siding to the Shipyard 
site. All the technical designs and drawings 
required to be delivered by Consultants have 
been received from M/s. Mitsubishi Heavy 
Industries Ltd., Tokyo. Design works to be 
done by the Shipyard Organisation have been 
largely completed. Preparatory works such as 
fencing of the shipyard site, reclamation of 
the site, 1st phase construction of shipyard 
roads, temporary water and electricity supply 
systems for construction requirements and 
1st phase of drainage works* have been com- 
pleted. Work is in progress on construction 
of Training School, Mould Loft foundation, 
Hull Shop; Main Electric supply receiving 
station, Laboratoiy, Oil Store, Paint Store 
and 2nd phase road construction. Contracts 
for construction of Outfitting ware house 
(foundation and superstructure) Maintenance 
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General Store foundation have also been 
awarded. Award of major marine works viz., 
Building Dock, Repair Dock and Quays is 
under consideration. Orders have been placed 
for the procurement of cranes and machinery 
including major electrical equipments, some 
of which have already been taken delivery of. 
Tenders for another 75 items of machinery/ 
equipment have been received and are under 
scrutiny. With a view to completing the cons- 
truction of the Shipyard according to sche- 
dule, a fully Government of India owned 
company named ‘Cochin Shipyard Limited’ 
has been set up with effect from 29.3.1972. 

(b) and (c). The work is generally pro- 
gressing as per schedule, except in a few cases 
like the awaid of contracts for Building Dock, 
No. 3 Quay, Hull Shop foundation and 150 
T Gantry Crane where the tenders had to be 
re-invited for lack of suitable response from 
the tenderers. 

Family Planning Publicity through In- 
formation and Broadcasting 

2096. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will 
the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have evaluated 
the Family Planning Publicity work executed 
through the Information and Broadcasting 
Ministry media ; and 

(b) the steps his Ministry want to take to 
improve motivational publicity among non- 
Hindu communities 7 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) The informa- 
tion is being collected and will be laid on 
the Table of the House. 

(b) Various forms of presentation and 
appeals are being used to inform, educate and 
motivate all sections of society. A special 
campaign cell is also proposed to be set up 
for developing special approaches suited parti- 
cularly to the neetjs of those sections of society 
which suffer from socio-economic backward- 
ness, and hence show comparatively less 
interest in family planning. 

Functioning of Book Promotion Division 

2097. SHRI S. G. SAMANTA: Will 
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 


(a) whether the functions of Book Pro- 
motion Division are still divided among the 
two Departments of Education and Culture ; 
and 

(b) the reasons for not placing Book 
Promotion Division under a senior Director 
with knowledge of book world ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) : 
(a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) The Deputy Educational Adviser 
who is incharge of this Division has sufficient 
knowledge of the Book World. 

Book on India-Land and People brought 
out by N. B. T. 

2098. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will 
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of books the National 
Book Trust has so far brought out in the 
series India-Land and People ; and 

(b) the reasons for not publishing books 
on new North-Eastern States and territories 
like Tripura, Mizoram and Arunachal ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA- 
SWAMY) : (a) 51 titles have so far been 
published in this series. 

(b) “India the Land and People” is a 
continuing series and all areas of the country 
are expected to be covered by about August, 
1973. So far four books about Assam and 
one about Nagaland have been included in 
this scries. 

Central Aid to Persons given Land after 
Imposition of Ceiling 

2099. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state the arrangements being made to pro- 
vide financial and other help for rehabilita- 
ting landless people on lands available after 
imposition of ceiling and the ratio of Central 
and States’ assistance in this regard ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : The new 
assignees of land will be able to take advan- 
tage of the financial assistance from special 
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these schemes are in operation, as small and 
marginal farmers, apart from the financial 
assistance available from existing institutions 
like cooperatives and commercial banks. The 
special schemes like SFOA and MFAL are in 
the Central sector and are wholly financed 
by the Central Government. 

Production of Hindi Books 

2100. SHRI D. P. JADEJA : Will the 
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the attention of Government 
has been invited to a news item appearing in 
Hindustan Times dated the 21st July, 1972 
regarding production of Hindi Books ; 

(b) the reasons for the unsatisfactory 
production of books ; and 

(c) the total amount sanctioned for the 
purpose State-wise and the percentage there- 
of utilized for the production of books during 
the last two years ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SO- 
CIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. R/VMASWA- 
MY) : (a) Yes Sir 

(b) The Scheme of production of books 
and literature in Hindi at the University 
level launched in 1 908-69 is bring implemen- 
ted mainly by the State Governments. 

Accoiding to the Guidelines circulated 
by the Central Government at the beginning 
of the Scheme, the State Governments were 
to set up autonomous/departmental Boards 
for executing the scheme. This took consi- 
derable time in some States. The progress 
during the first two years of the Fourth Five 
Year Plan was slow on this account. Besides, 
it is in the very nature of book production 
that upto the manuscript stage the progress 
u essentially latent. Expert Subject Panels 
have to be set up, titles have to be selected, 
authors/ translators have to be identified and 
in case of translations, copyrights have to be 
obtained. Results show only when books are 
published. The initial apparent slow progress 
of the Scheme is attributable to this factor also. 

(c) A statement showing the grants re- 
leased to State Governments and the percen- 
tage of expenditure reported to have been 
1T1( l, rrcd by the various Book Production 
Boards during the last two years is laid on 
the Table of the House. [Placed in Library. 
S" No. LT-3386/72 ]. 


Improvement of Bus Service in Delhi 

2101. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA : 

SHRI SHIV KUMAR SHASTRI : 

Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT be pleased to state t 

(a) whether he is aware of great hard- 
ship being caused to the travelling public in 
Delhi for want of efficient transport ; 

(b) if so, the positive measures being 
taken to improve the Delhi Transport Cor- 
poration Service, especially in peak hours ;and 

(c) the measures being taken to introduce 
more Mini buses under direct operation of 
the Delhi Transport Corporation ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS, AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI 
OM MEHTA) : (a) to (c). Sustained efforts 
are being made to streamline the operations 
of the bus services of the Delhi Transport 
Corporation. These have started yielding 
results by way of reduction in the working 
deficits and missing of trips and better utili- 
sation of vehicles. Steps are being taken to 
repair some of the old and defective buses to 
make them roadworthy. Orders have also 
been placed for the procurement of 294 addi- 
tional buses including 30 Mini buses. 133 
have already been received and added to the 
fleet. The remaining buses are also expected 
to be received by October 1972. It has been 
decided to acquire 425 additional buses during 
1972-73 and 1973-74. Out of this, 250 are 
expected to be received by the end of the 
current financial year and the balance in the 
next financial year. With the augmentation 
of the fleet, the services are expected to fur- 
ther improve. 

To meet peak hour traffic, which mostly 
consists of office goers, special trips have been 
provided from various localities to the office 
complexes in the mornings and in the reverse 
directions in the evenings. 

Firms Manufacturing Vanaspad and 
Vegetable Products 

2102. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) the names of firms manufacturing 
vanaspati and other vegetable products who 
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eating tin containers for packing of their 
products and who approached the Vanaspati 
Directorate of his Ministry for assistance in 
the allotment of tin plates ; and 

(b) the action taken In the matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATJ5 IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) i (a) The following manufac- 
turers of vanaspati have been granted c.o b. 
licences for fabricating tin containers for 
packing vanaspati, or for expansion of their 
existing capacity therefor : 

(1) New units 

(i) M/s, Dipak Vegetable Oil Indus- 
tries Ltd., Manavadar. 

(ii) M/s. Premier Vegetable Products 
Ltd., Jaipur. 

(iii) M/s. Kishan Chand & Co. Oil In- 
dustries Ltd., Ludhiana. 

(iv) M/s. Prabhat Solvent Extraction 
Industries Ltd., Manavadar. 

(v) M/s. Maharashtra Vegetable Pro- 
ducts Ltd., Dhulia. 

(2) Expansion of existing capacity : 

(i) M/s. Bhavnagar Vegetable Products 
Ltd , Bhavnagar. 

(ii) M/s. Hindustan Development Cor- 
poration Ltd., Calcutta. 

(iii) M/s. Western India Vegetable Pro- 
ducts Ltd., Amalner. 

(b) In accordance with the distribution 
procedures presently in force, the licensed 
capacity of these firms has been intimated by 
the Directorate of Sugar and Vanaspati to 
the Tinplate Producers through the Iron and 
Steel Controller, Calcutta, for enabling tin 
plate to be released to them accordingly. 

Inspection of Accounts of Sociological 
Society Conference 

2103. SHRI JAGANNATHRAO JOSHI : 
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the authorities of Indian 
Institute of Technology, Delhi have withheld 
the submission of accounts of the IXth Socio- 
logical Society Conference (held in I. I, T., 
Delhi in 1969) from inspection by the AGCR 
for the two consecutive years ; and 


(b) if so, what action has been taken in 
regard to this irregularity ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) and (b). 
At the request of the Indian Sociological 
Society, the Indian Institute of Technology, 
Delhi, agreed to host the 9th Sociological 
Conference which was held at New Delhi in 
November, 1969. The Institute also decided 
to contribute a sum of Rs. 19,000/- towards 
the expenses of this Conference. 

2. The total expenditure which the 
Indian Institute of Technology incurred on 
this conference was Rs. 29,448.36. Towards 
this, it had only its own contribution of 
Rs. 19,000/- and a grant-in-aid of Rs. 6,000 
sanctioned by the Mahatma Gandhi Centenary 
Committee which had been passed on to it 
through the Indian Sociological Society. As a 
balance of about Rs. 4,448.36 had yet to be 
received from the Indian Sociological Society, 
the accounts could not be finalised and sub- 
mitted to the AGCR. 

3. On 2nd March, 1972, a sum of 
Rs. 3,000/- was received from the Indian 
Sociological Society. Thereupon, the accounts 
were finalised and also audited by the Int rnal 
Audit. These have now been submitted to the 
AGCR party which is working in the 
Institute. 

4. It will thus be seen that the delay in 
submitting these accounts to the AGCR had 
been solely due to the fact that the necessary 
funds were not received from the Indian 
Sociological Society. 

5. It is understood from the Indian Socio- 
logical Society that it has not yet been able 
to get finalised and audited statement of 
accounts from the then Head of the Depart- 
ment of Humanities and Social Sciences who 
was incharge of organising this conference on 
its behalf. Certain other complaints have also 
been received against him. The Board of 
Governors have considered these complaints 
and appointed a two-man Committee to 
examine the matter and submit a report to 
the Board at an early date. 

Re-Routing of D« T. C. Buses through 
I. T. O. Bridge of Jamuna River 

2104. KUMAR I KAMLA KUMARI : 
Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Delhi Transport Gorpo- 



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ration Buses have been re-routed through 
I. T. O. Bridge of Jamuna liver. New Delhi ; 

(b) If so, the number of buses which arc 
passing through that bridge daily ; and 

(c) If not, the reasons for not re-routing 
the buses for such a long time ? 

THE MINISTER OF S TATE IN THE 
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFRIRS, AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM 
MEHTA) : (a) Services on route No. 1 1-F 
operating between Patpar Ganj and Rafi 
Marg and special trips during office hours on 
routes No. 20 and 46 touching various trans- 
Jamuna colonics have been re-routed via 
I. T. O. Bridge with effect from 1-8-1972. 

(b) 56 trips are being operated daily via 
I. T. O. Bridge. 

(c) Does not arise. 

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Report of Committee on use of Urban 
Waste and Night Soil as Organic Manure 

2106. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will 
the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have set up a 
Committee headed by Shri B. Sivaraman, 
Vice-Chairman of National Agriculture Com- 
mission to determine the extent to which the 
urban waste and night soil can be used as 
organic manure ; and 

(b) if so, the time by which the Com- 
mittee will submit its report ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes. 

(b) The Committee is required to submit 
its report within a period of six months, i. e. 
by the 5th November, 1972. 

Cadre of Hospital Administrators 

2107. S1IRI ARVIND NETAM: Will 
the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government of India are 
considering to raise the cadre of Hospital 
Administrators ; and 

(b) if so, how it will effect the smooth 
functioning of the hospitals ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) No. 

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Request for sanction of two Agricultural 
Universities in Uttar Pradesh 

2108. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether Uttar Pradesh Government 
have urged the Centre to accord sanction for 
setting up two more Agricultural Universities 
m the State ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of the Centre 
thereto ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) The proposal is under the considera- 
tion of the Government of India. 

Educational, Cultural an^ Social Institu- 
tions associated with Names and Heri- 
tage of Great Sons of India 

2109. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will die 
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) the names of the educational, cultural 
or social institutions which are (i) run direct- 
ly, (ii) managed through autonomous bodies, 
(iii) partly financed , and (iv) given ad hoc 
aids by the Education Ministry that arc asso- 
ciated with the names and heritage of (i) 
Mahatma Gandhi, (ii) Pandit Jawaharlal 
Nehru, (iii) Maulana Abul Kalam Azad, (iv) 
Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, (v) Dr. Rajendra 
Prasad, (vi) Dr. Zakir Hussain and (vii) Lai 
Bahadur Shastu ; 

(b) (i) separate annual expenditures and 
(ii) the aggregate expenditure incurred so 
far on these institutions lun in the names of 
each of the great sons of India ; 

(c) the names of similar institutions and 
the expenditure incuired (i) annually and 
(ii) in aggiegate so far which are run in 
association with the name and heritage of 
Nclaji Subhas Chandra Bose ; and 

(d) the realms for discriminative attitude 
of Government towards Netaji ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) ; 

(a) to (d). The information is being collected 
and will be laid on the Table of the House, 
when received. 


Books on and by Netaji Subhaeh 
Chan dra Bose available in Library of 
Institute of Advanced Studies, Simla, 
Jawaharlal Nehru University and Central 
Government Libraries 

2110. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the 
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Library of the Institute 
of Advanced Studies, Simla contains most of 
the important books on and by Mahatma 
Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru, but no book 
on and by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, if 
so, the reasons therefor ; 

(b) whether Jawaharlal Nehru University 
Library has books on and by Netaji Subhash 
Chandra Bose ; and 

(c) whether Government propose to issue 
directives to all Central Government libraries 
for including books on and by Netaji ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S NURUL HASAN) : (a) No, Sir. 
The Library of the Indian Institute of Advan- 
ced Study, Simla does contain some books, on 
and by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose. 

(b) Yes. Sir. 

(c) The National Library, Calcutta gets 
one copy each of every book published in the 
country. The Central Secretariat Library and 
Delhi Public Library also have books on and 
by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose. 

Shortfall in target of food production 
during 1971-72 on Estimate* of food pro- 
duction in 1972-73 

2111. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state: 

(a) whether shortfall in food production 
during 1971-72 will effect the target of 
national self-sufficiency in food production ; 

(b) if not, the target year for stopping 
food import from outside; and 

(c) the estimated food production for the 
year 1972-73 ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The 

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objective is not influenced by production in 
any individual year. 

(b) No fresh contracts for the import of 
foodgrains either on concessional or commer- 
cial basis, have been entered into by the 
Government since 1st January, 1972. 

(c) During the current year kharif crops 
have been affected in varying degrees, by the 
drought in several States. A number of 
corrective measures are being taken to com- 
pensate the losses already suffered. These 
includes providing irrigation from all available 
sources, replanting of crops, wherever possible, 
raising intermediate short-term crops and 
mounting a massive programme for intensive 
rabi /summer production. However, as we are 
in the early part of the agricultural year 
1972-73, it is not possible to give an estimate 
of foodgrains production at this stage. 

Scheme for providing Employment to 
Educated Unemployed 

2112. SHRI SAMAR GUIIA : Will the 
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Education Ministry has pre- 
pared schemes of piovidmg employment to 
the educated unemployed, if so, the details 
about such .scheme's ; 

(b) State- wise break up of such scheme-* ; 

(c) how many schemes have been executed 
and the tunc schedules for other schemes; and 

(d) the number of educated unemployed 
under such Schemes and their State-wise 
figures v 

THIi DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. 
RAMASWAMY) : (a) to (d). The Ministiy 
formulated a Scheme for Providing Employ- 
ment to the Educated Unemployed and Ex- 
pansion of Elementary Education duiing the 
year 1971-72. Under this scheme, assistance 
is given to the States/U.Ts for the appointment 
of additional teachers and assistant inspectors 
of schools, introduction of work experience, 
supply of free text books and stationery, pro- 
vision of midday meals and construction of 
additional class-rooms. The assistance given 
to the different States/U.Ts during 1971-72 
under the scheme may be seen in Statement I 
laid on the Table of the House, [Placed in 
Library . See No. LT— 3387/72]. A State- 
wise statement showing the number of teachers. 


school inspectors and work experience teachers 
sanctioned and appointed during 1971-72 is 
given in Statement II laid on the Tabic of 
the House. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 
3387/72]. For 1972-73, sanctions have been 
issued to all State Governments and Union 
Territories for the appointment of 30,000 
further additional teachers, 240 school inspec- 
tors, distribution of free textbooks and 
stationery and midday meals to about 9 lakh 
children, introduction of work experience in 
1,000 schools and construction of 30,000 
class-rooms. 

Teaching of Hindi and other Languages 

2113. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the 
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of Hindi Schools run or 
financed wholly or partially for teaching 
Hindi to the non^iindi people ; 

(b) the total expenditure meuned by 
Central Government for the purpose of (i) 
running, (ii) subsidising and (iii) giving various 
other aids to such Hindi Schools during the 
last three years ; 

(c) the number of Schools run or financed 
by the Central Government for teaching Bengali 
to non-Bengali, Tamil to non-Tamil, Gujarati 
to non-Gujarati, Telugu to non-Telugu, Mala- 
yalam to non-Malayalam, Oriya to non-Oriya, 
Assamese to non-Assamese, Marathi to non- 
Marathi and Kannadi to non- Kannadi peoples; 
and 

(d) the expenditure incurred for teaching 
of non-Hindi languages separately during the 
last three years ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN T11E 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. 
Rj\MASWAMY) : (a) This Ministry do not 
directly run any Hindi schools for teaching 
Hindi to non-Hindi speaking people. However, 
under this Ministry’s scheme for ‘financial 
assistance to voluntary Organisations for 
propagation and development of Hindi 1 finan- 
cial assistance is given to such organisations 
for running centres for teaching Hindi to non- 
Hindi speaking people. The number of such 
centres during 1971-72 was about 2,000. 

(b) The total financial assistance given by 
the Central Government for the arrangements 
mentioned at (a) above during the last three 
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1969- 70 : Rs. 12,51,717.00 

1970- 71 : Rs. 12,73,281.00 

1971- 72 : Rs. 15,05,067.00 

(c) The Central Government do not run 

any schools directly for teaching of regional 

languages. However, financial assistance during 
the last three years was given to five voluntary 
organisations which ran classes for teaching 
these languages. 

(d) Since these institutions generally 
conduct classes for more than one language 
from the same grant, separate figures for each 
language are not available. The expenditure 
incurred on the arrangements mentioned at 
(c) above during the last three years was : 

1969- 70 : Rs. 8,753.00 

1970- 71 : Rs. 29,500.00 

1971- 72 : Rs. 2,477.00 

The languages for the teaching of which 

grants were released were : Assamese, Oriya, 
Tamil, Telugu, Urdu, Kannada, Malayalam 
Marathi and Bengali. 

Conference of State Health Secretaries 

2114. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN: 

SHRI M. C. DAGA : 

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND 
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether a conference of State Health 
Sccietaries, administrative Medical Officers 
and Family Planning Officers held in New 
Delhi in June, 1972 discussed the operation of 
the Medical Termination of Pregnancy Act 
and the problems encountered by the States 
in its implementation ; 

(b) the special facilities which Govern- 
ment are providing to the States in this 
respect ; 

(c) whether all the States and Union 
Territories have since set up Boards as required 
under the Act for approving Institutions where 
abortions could be performed and the Medical 
Practitioners for this work whether any fixed 
fee has been prescribed for the purpose ; and 

(d) the step* taken in giving wide publi- 
city to the Institutions and Medical Practi- 
tioners so approved by the Boards for the 
purpose ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY 


OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. 
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes. 

(b) The Operation of Medical Termination 
of Pregnancy Act is a health measure. Like other 
health services, State Governments have to pro- 
vide special facilities for the operation of Medi- 
cal Termination of Pregnancy Act also from 
their budget. However, some central assistance 
for expansion of existing facilities etc. is under 
consideration. 

(c) No. So far 14 States and 4 Union 
Territories have constituted such boards. No 
fee has been prescribed for the purpose. 

(d) It is not considered necessary to give 
publicity. 

Taking over of Public Schools in Delhi 

2115. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : Will 
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the question of taking over of 
Public Schools in Delhi was under active 
consideration of Government for some time ; 
if so, the decision taken so far in this respect ; 

(b) whether Government have leceived a 
number of complaints against the Public 
Schools in Delhi, if so, the nature of com- 
plaints and the action taken thereon ; and 

(c) if the reply to part (a) above be in 
the negative the reasons therefor ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA- 
SWAMY) : (a) No, Sir. 

(b) Some allegations against a Public 
School in New Delhi were received. These 
relate to alleged unauthorised collections made 
in 1965 for the National Defence Fund, 
Jawans* Fund and irregular termination of 
services of certain staff members by the 
authorities of the School. Inspector General 
of Police, Delhi, was asked to make inquiry 
and submit report in the matter, which is 
awaited. 

(c) Government have no legal authority 
to do so. 

Sale of Spurious Drugs 

2116. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : Will 
the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING be pleased to state : 

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and Druggists who have been prosecuted in 
the country during the last 3 years on the 
charge of selling spurious drugs ; and 

(b) whether Government are considering 
to enact some legislation in this respect or to 
amend the existing law with a view to provide 
pure medicines to the patients and to award 
severe punishment to the persons concerned ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY 
OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. 
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) The 
information is being collected and will be 
laid on the Table of the Sabha. 

(b) The Drugs and Cosmetics Act, 1940 
already provides for deterrent punishment 
for offences relating to the manufacture 
and sale of mis-branded and adulterated 
drugs. 

Experiment in Dry Farming by I.C.A.R. 

2117. SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether any experiment has been 
conducted by the Indian Council of Agricul- 
tural Research to improve dry farming in 
the country ; and 

(b) if so, the results thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

An All Indi i Coordinated Research Pro- 
ject on Dryland Agriculture has been sanc- 
tioned since October, 1970. The project is 
in operation at 24 selected centres, represent- 
ing different agro-climatic conditions in the 
country and its research programme aims to 
develop technology to improve production 
under dryland conditions. Research is also 
being conducted at different Research Institu- 
tes and other coordinated research projects of 
the Council, specially under the All India 
Coordinated Agronomic experiment scheme 
to improve agricultural production under 
dryland conditions. 

(b) Within the short period of intensive 
research efforts on dryland agriculture, a 
number of promising results have since been 
obtained and some of the more important 
ones are mentioned below : 


(i) Sunflower is proving to be a pro- 
mising crop for most of the dry 
areas in Andhra Pradesh, Mysore 
Gujarat, Maharashtra and even 
for some parts of Northern India. 

(ii) Under dryland conditions. Hybrid 
bajra HB-3, yields 32 per cent 
more than HB-1 and is better than 
local selections. 

(iii) As upland drilled rice, Jaya, CR. 
44-1, Krishna, Kaveri and Bala 
varieties perform well. 

(iv) Cowpea, C. 152 performs outstand- 
ingly well under rainfed conditions. 

(v) Research results on rabi ‘Jowar* 
are convincingly in favour of Sep- 
tember rather than the October 
sowings in black cotton soils of 
Bijaput and Bcllary tract. 

(vi) Dryland soils are not only thirsty, 
they are also hungry ; and appli- 
cation of fertilizer enables the 
crops to stand drought better and 
invariably yield higher. 

Monument ‘Birbal Ka Chhatta’ in Har- 
yana 

2118. SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI : Will 
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government are aware of 
the existence of a medieval monument called 
Birbal Ka Chhatta in Narnaul in Haryana 
state ; 

(b) whether this monument is in a neg- 
lected condition ; and 

(c) if so, whether Central Government 
propose to take . steps to protect this monu- 
ment ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) Yes, 
Sir. Though popularly know as Birbal Ka 
Chhatta, the structure was, constructed by 
Rae Mukund Das, the governor of Narnaul 
under Shah Jahan. 

(b) and (c). The monument is under the 
protection of the Government of Haryana and 
as such the Central Government is requesting 
that Government to take suitable steps for the 
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Effect of shortage of Chemical Fertiliser 
on Green Revolution in Rice Growing 
Areas 

2119. SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) the extent to which the current short- 
age of chemical fertilisers will a fleet Govern- 
ment’s plan to extend the 'Green Revolution* 
to the rice producing areas in the country ; 
and 

(b) the steps Government have taken to 
overcome the difficulties created by shortage 
of fertilisers in the rice growing areas ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b). 
It is not possible to state precisely as to what 
extent the rice production with the High 
Yielding Varieties of seeds vfoll suffer due to 
likelihood of shortage of fertilisers. The fol- 
lowing measures have been taken to ensure 
that the high yielding varieties programmes 
receive priority in the matter of fertiliser 
supply : 

(i) The States have been asked to 
prepare plans for using fertiliser 
on priority crops only and make 
distribution arrangements accor- 
dingly. 

(ii) States have been advised to take 
various measures such as better 
tillage, better water management 
and plant protection, better weed- 
ing and more balanced fertilisa- 
tion along the guidelines suggested 
by the Indian Council of Agricul- 
tural Research. 

(iii) Orders have been promulgated 
under the Essential Commodities 
Act, making it legally obligatory 
for the manufacturers to supply to 
the States the quantities of fertili- 
sers committed by them during the 
Zonal Conferences. This will en- 
sure that all the States get the 
supplies on an equitable basis. 

(iv) Government have taken over 30% 
of the Ammonium Sulphate pro- 
duced within the country to be 
distributed through State agencies 
like cooperatives, Agro- Industries 
Corporations etc. for priority crops 
and areas. 


(v) The States have been advised to 
prepare careful inventories of the 
stocks available in the godowns of 
cooperative and private dealers to 
enable optimum utilisation of the 
available fertilisers. 

Delivery of Ships by Rumania 

2120. SHRI P. M. MEHTA : 

SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKOD- 
KAR : 

Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Rumania has refused to 
deliver ten ships to India at the contracted 
price ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- 
ARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : 
(a) and (b). The Rumanian Shipbuilders had 
expressed their inability to deliver ten ships 
at the contracted price for the following 
reasons stated by them : 

(i) after the signing of the contract, 
the prices of equipments and mate- 
rials have gone up substantially 
and there were big differences 
between their first estimates and 
actual prices to be paid now ; 

(ii) labour costs were showing a conti- 
nuous increasing tendency. 

(iii) during the finalisation of the tech- 
nical documentation some modifica- 
tions were proposed to the original 
specifications which have made the 
vessels more expensive. 

An amicable settlement has, however now 
been reached. 

Pilferage in Calcutta Port Area 

2121. SHRI P. M. MEHTA : Will the 
Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether pilferage in the Calcutta 
Port area had been checked and several people 
rounded up and some smuggling operations 
detected ; and 

(b) if so, broad outlines thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- 
ARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) i 



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(a) and (b). As a result of intensification 
of preventive measures in the Port area with 
the induction of Central Industrial Security 
Force and Creation of Customs Dock In- 
telligence Unit, the position of pilferage at 
Calcutta Port has started improving and a 
number of attempts at smuggling have been 
thwarted. A number of people have been 
arrested. The total number of persons arres- 
ted during the period August, 1971 to June, 
1972 in cases of pilferage was 348. In addi- 
tion, 24 persons were arrested for smuggling 
since the Central Industrial Security Force 
took control of the Docks and Jetties in 
August 1971. 

Construction Work of Gopalpur Minor 
Port 

2123. SHRI ARJUN SETHI : Will the 
Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government propose to start 
the construction work of the Rs. 2.75 crores 
minor port at Gopalpur immediately taking 
into consideration the suggestion to change 
the site of the minor port ; and 

(b) if so, when the construction work of 
the minor port is envisaged to end ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- 
ARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : 
(a) and (b). Development of the minor port 
at Gopalpur was studied by an expert com- 
mittee, which recommended its location in 
the existing lagoon. The results of hydraulic 
studies for this have not so far been received 
from the Central Water and Power Research 
Station. Other data as envisaged in the 
Expert Committee’s Report are also awaited 
from the Orissa Government. In the mean- 
time, the State Government have suggested 
an alternative site. Detailed information 
with respect to the fresh proposals as well as 
the result of any hydraulic studies and other 
investigations carried out in respect of the 
alternative site have been called for from the 
State Government and are awaited. As the 
scheme has not yet been finalised, it is pre- 
mature to indicate the date of its completion. 

Amount spent on Development Works 
of Ghsndbali Port In Balasore, Orissa 

2124. SHRI ARJUN SETHI : Will the 
Minister or SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT 
be pleased to state i 


(a) whether the amount of Rs. 2,30,000 
which was allotted under the Second Plan 
for development works of Ghandbali Port in 
the District of Balasore, Orissa had actually 
been spent on it ; and 

(b) if so, the names of the items on 
which the sanctioned amount was being 
spent ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- 
ARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : 
(a) and (b). The information is being collec- 
ted from the Government of Orissa, who are 
in executive charge of the minor port at 
Chandbali. It will be laid on the Table of the 
Sabha in due course. 

Developing countries receiving foreign 

assistance through U. N. Agencies 

2125. SHRI ARJUN SETHI : 

SHRI pfLOO MODY : 

Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether at the Tenth Conference of 
the National Commission for Cooperation 
with UNESCO, he had stated that the foreign 
assistance received by the developing countries 
through the agencies of the United Nations 
such as UNESCO frequently led to exploi- 
tation of the country receiving such aid as 
reporlcd in the Hindustan Times dated the 
1st July, 1972 ; and 

(b) the implications of his statement ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA- 
SWAMY) : (a) What the Minister stated was 
as follows : 

“Multilateral aid through the Specialised 
Agencies of the United Nations should be 
normally without strings, but it is also fre- 
quently contributory to exploitation of the 
country receiving aid”. 

(b) The implications have been made 
clear in other parts of the Minister’s speech 
where while noting that UNESCO’s achieve- 
ments, though limited, are still memorable, 
he had stated that "the transfer of expertise 
and technology to the developing countries 
effected through UNESCO is often, though not 
always, of a kind that docs not benefit the 
developing countries. The creation of institu- 
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most entirely from foreign sources frequently 
has little relevance to indigenous problems 
and helps to create a subservient role for the 
indigenous scientific and technological efforts." 
The Minister's view was that UNESCO's 
programmes should be reoriented in order to 
help developing countries to utilize their 
capacity for national development and mutual 
co-operation to the fullest extent. Further, 
the Minister stated that UNESCO should 
focus its attention on programmes which have 
a “multiplier" effect, which relate education 
and science to productivity, which contribute 
to the improvement of quality, and which 
will assist the developing countries to develop 
their own expertise as soon as possible. 

Revision of Pay Scales of Sales Attendants 
of All Day Milk Stall of D. M. S. 

2126. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will 

the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : * 

(a) whether Government propose to revise 
the pay scale of the post of Sales Attendants 
at the All Day Milk Stalls of Delhi Milk 
Scheme in the light of its responsibility for 
handling cash ; and 

(b) if not, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). The correct 
designation of the post is Sales Assistant and 
not Sales Attendant. There is no proposal to 
revise the pay scale of Sales Assistant. The 
Sales Assistants assist the Managers of the 
Stall and attend to counter service. Their 
duties do not include handling of cash. The 
responsibilities attached to the post are not 
such as to warrant any revision of pay scale. 

Working Hours of All-Day Milk Stalls of 
D. M. S. in various offices 

2127. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether the working hours in all-day 
milk stalls of Delhi Milk Scheme are still half- 
an-hour more than for those Government 
Offices in which buildings these stalls are 
located ; 

(b) if so, whether any Over-Time Allo- 
wance is paid to them for performing their 
duties for extra half-an-hour daily, if not, the 
reasons^for the same; and 


(c) whether Government are considering 
to bring the working hours at par with those 
of the Government Offices located in the same 
buildings and, if not, why not ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) Yes. 

(b) No. The 7^ hours work a day does 
not entitle these employees to the payment of 
overtime 

(c) Although a Department of Central 
Govt., Delhi Milk Scheme is primarily a 
commercial organisation engaged in processing 
and sale of milk and milk products. The All 
Day Milk Stalls mainly cater to the needs of 
the office-going employees working in the 
Ministries in which the Stalls are located. 
The stalls are opened 15 minutes earlier and 
closed 15 minutes later than the working 
hours of the Ministries for the convenience 
of the office going employees. However the 
question of further reduction of the working 
hours of the employees of All Day Milk 
Stalls is under consideration. 

Cases of Gastro-Enteritls and Cholera 

2128. SHRI AMAR NATH CHAWLA : 
Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of cases of gastro-entcritis 
and cholera leporled in this summer ; 

(b) whether this time the incidents of 
gastro-enteritis and cholera have been much 
more than the year 1971 ; 

(c) if so, the main reasons therefor ; and 

(d) the steps taken in this regard in the 
interest of public life ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAY A) : (a) 72,533 cases 

of cholera and gastro-enteritis have been 
reported from various States/Union Territories 
upto the end of July, 1972. 

(b) and (c). Increased incidence has been 
reported from the States of Andhra Pradesh, 
Gujarat, Haryana, Kerala, Madhya Pradesh, 
Maharashtra, Mysore, Orissa, Tamil Nadu, 
Uttar Pradesh and the Union Territory of 
Delhi. This is mainly due to the scarcity of 
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(d) Necessary preventive measures inclu- 
ding chlorination of drinking water sources, 
isolation and treatment of cases, mass anti- 
cholera immunization campaign, health edu- 
cation of the people etc., are being carried 
out. 

Transfer of Sanitation Work of Govern- 
ment Colonies to G. P. W. D. 

2129. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD 
VERMA : Will the Minister of HEALTH 
AND FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether the sanitation work of the 
Government colonies of New Delhi is being 
transferred to C. P. W. D. ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CII ATTOP ADHY AY A) : (a) Government is 
not aware of any such proposal. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Carrying of Night-soil and Garbage on 
Heads 

2 1 30. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD 
VERMA : Will the Minister of EDUCATION 
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether Government arc considering 
to put an end to the profession oF scavengers 
Carrying on head night soil and garbage ; and 

(h) if so, the time by which it will be 
implemented ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) : 
(a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) It is not possible to fix any time limit 
m this regard. 

Sugar Famine in 1973 

2131. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD 

VERMA : 

SHRI BANAMALI PATNAIK : 

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to refer to the statement made by 
bhri S. K. Sommayya, former President of 
the Indian Sugar Mills Association where he 
has stated that India will be facing an 
unprecedented sugar famine next year and 


state what positive steps Government propose 
to take in this direction ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH): Referring to a number of in- 
accuracies in the earlier report published in the 
"Financial Express” of the 19th July, 1972 of 
his statement made two days earlier, Shri 
Somayya has clarified in a letter to the Editor 
of that paper that — 

(1) as there is at present a marginal increase 
in the cane acreage of about 7-J percent, 
the next year’s crop is expected to be 
slightly higher ; 

(2) competent observers do not put sugar 
production in the next year beyond 35 
lakh tonnes ; 

(3) acute sugar scarcity would arise in case 
the Government did not increase the 
sugarcane price to make it more remune- 
rative to the grower ; and 

(4) it was totally incorrect to say that he 
felt that the Government action was 
reckless and that he had only stated 
that the Government policies were more 
as a reaction to the current situation 
rather than as a result of long term 
strategy. 

The sugar and sugarcane policy for 1972- 
73 with a view to maximising sugar production 
is already in an advanced stage of consi- 
deration. Government are also making attempts 
to accelerate the commissioning of new 
factories scheduled to go into production and 
the progress of old factories having expansion 
programme during 1972-73. 

Criticism by Cooperation Minister of 
Maharashtra Re. New Sugar Policy 

2132. SHRI RAMKANWAR : 

DR. H. P. SHARMA : 

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether attention of the Govern- 
ment of India has been invitedL to a statement 
made by the Maharashtra Minister for Coope- 
ration, Shri Y. J. Mohite (published in the 
Indian Express of the 1st July, 1972) branding 
as "unscientific and wrong” the new sugar 
policy of the Government of India ; 

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been carefully examined by the Government 
of India ; and 

(c) if so, the reaction of the Government 
of India thereto ?_ 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) and (c). The new sugar policy of 
statutory partial control, which came into 
effect from the 1st July, 1972, is basically a 
continuation of the informally agreed arrange- 
ment, which operated for six months from 
the 1st January, 1972. As a sector of the 
industry expressed its inability to continue 
the informal arrangement beyond the 30th 
June, 1972, it became necessary for the 
Government to promulgate the Levy Sugar 
Supply (Control) Older, 1972, Sugar (Price 
Determination) Order, 1972 and other ancil- 
lary orders under the provisions of the Essen- 
tial Commodities Act. the sugar prices 
had to be determined under the Act inter alia 
on the basis of the minimum notified canc 
prices, the notified ex-factory prices of sugar 
in most of the zones worked out to be less 
than Rs. 150 per quintal, which was the price 
which prevailed uniformly under the informal 
arrangement. The Government of India feel 
that in the circumstances that emerged as a 
result of a sector of the industry withdrawing 
from the informal arrangement, the action 
taken by them was inevitable and correct. 

Implications of Fixing of Low Levy 
Prices of Sugar 

2133. SHRI RAMKANWAR : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether attention of the Government 
of India has been invited to a report in the 
“Economic Times” of 23rd June, 1972, stating 
that distribution of sugar from fair price shops 
is likely to go out of gear following the lower 
levy prices fixed by the Union Government ; 
and 

(b) the reaction of the Government of 
India in this regard ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY" OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) A few sugar factories have actually 
filed writ petitions in Courts and obtained 
interim orders restraining the Government 
from enforcing the Sugar (Price Deter mina- 


tion) Order, 1972 , subject to the factories 
providing bank guarantees for the difference 
between the prices fixed by the Government 
and the actual sale prices. This development 
has disturbed the smooth working of the levy 
system of distribution of sugar both in regard 
to its price and quantity in some areas. On 
the whole, about 90.3% of the levy sugar 
has been despatched by the factories during 
July, 1972 and the period of validity of levy 
releases for July, 1972 in the case of factories 
covered by the interim orders of the Allahabad 
High Court has been extended by three 
weeks. 

Steps for Consolidation of Agricultural 
Holdings 

2134. SHRI B. V. NAIK : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) steps Government at the Centres and 
the States are adopting for the consolidation 
fragments of agricultural land ; 

(b) the size of a fragment, below which 
further sub-division in the various States is 
forbidden by law or usage ; and 

(c) whether it is contemplated to change 
the laws of inheritencc of agricultural land by 
Constitutional Amendments or otherwise to 
avoid further sub-division and fragmentation 
of agiicultural holdings ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The 
Fourth Five Year Plan has given considerable 
emphasis on the programme of Consolidation 
of Holdings. During the Fourth Plan a pro- 
vision of Rs. 28.76 crores has been made by 
the Stales to consolidate an area of 9.4 lakh 
hectares. Work of consolidation of holdings 
has been completed in Punjab and Haryana 
and much progress has been made in Uttar 
Pradesh, Maharashtra and Madhya Pradesh. 
Progress achieved so far in different States 
is given in the Statement enclosed. 

(b) Legislative provisions have been 
made for prevention of sub-divisions and 
fragmentations of holdings below the prescri- 
bed minimum areas in the following 
States : 

Andhra Pradesh (Telengana Area) 

Assam 

Bihar 

Gujarat 



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Haryana Rajasthan 


Madhya Pradesh 


Uttar Pradesh 

Maharashtra 


West Bengal, Manipur, and Tripura. 

Mysore 


(c) No such proposal to amend the Cons- 

Punjab 


titution is under consideration now. 


Statement 



(Thousand Hectares) 

State 

Area consolidated 

Information relates to the period ending 

Andhra Pradesh 

36 

1971 

Bihar 

70 

1971 

Gujarat 

1028 

Sept., 1971 

Haryana 

4129 

March, 1972 

Jammu and Kashmir 

33 

March, 1972 

Madhya Pradesh 

3179 

March, 1972 

Maharashtra 

7584 

March, 1972 

Mysore 

803 

• March, 1972 

Punjab 

4737 

March, 1972 

Rajasthan 

1744 

1971 

Uttar Pradesh 

10663 

March, 1972 

Delhi 

8 

1972 

Himachal Pradesh 

360 

1972 

Cost Benefit Ratio of Family Planning 

measures of cost effectiveness have been dis- 


2135. SHRI B. V. NAIK : Will the 
Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY PLAN- 
NING be pleased to state : 


cussed in fairly great detail in an article on 
“The population Growth and Economic 
Welfare" by Warren G. Robinson in the 
Reports on Population/Fainily Planning No. 


(a) the cost benefit ratio of family plan- 6* February, 71. 


ning measures like I U.C.D. contractivcs and 
Vasectomy ; and 


Minimum Land Holding fit for Power 
Tiller 


(b) how this cost benefit ratio is 
computed ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY 
OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. 
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Some 
attempts have been made by various research 
workers to estimate the cost benefit ratio for 
individual methods of family planning. These 
arc shown in the statement laid on the Table 
the House [Placed in Library . See No. LT 3388/ 
72]. 

(b) For working out the cost benefit 
ratio the economic value of a birth averted 
due to the family planning method is related 
to the estimated cost per birth averted during 
^ particular year. The methodologies for 
working out the cost benefit ratio and various 


2136. SHRI B. V. NAIK: Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) the minimum size* of an agricultuiists 
land holding computed on the basis of stand- 
ard acres that is considered adequate to 
sustain economically its cultivation by a power 
tiller ; 

(b) the minimum size of a fragment of 
land on which power tiller can be operated ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) No scien- 
tific study has been carried out to determine 
the minimum *ize of holding adequate to 
economically sustain its cultivation by a power 
tiller. 

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which a power tiller can be operated depends 
on the size of the power tiller. A 4-5 H. P. 
power tiller could easily be operated in fields 
measuring about 8x6 meters for regular 
agriculture. 

Investment of Small Farmers Develop- 
ment Agencies 

2137. SHRI B. V. NAIK : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) the total investment by the Centre on 
the small Farmers Development Agencies in 
the country and the State-wise break-up 
thereof ; 

(b) whether these Agencies are managed 
by the Small Farmers themselves and if so, 
their precise constitution, functions and the 
modus operandi ; and 

(c) whether the precise dffinition of the 
term farmer has been evolved in each State, 
and if so, the main features thereof and the 
detailed position about disposal of applications 
for aid and assistance from Small Farmers in 
each State ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) A statement (State- 

ment I) giving the amount released upto 
9th August, 1972 to the Small Farmers Deve- 
lopment Agencies, Statewise, is laid on the 
Table of the House. [Placed in Library . See No. 
LT-3389/72]. Broadly, each Small Farmers 
Development Agencies will get a grant ofRs, 
150 Lakhs over the project period. 

(b) No Sir. The Agencies are registered 
under Societies Registration Act and have 
generally the District Collector/ Deputy Com- 
missioner as Chairman, Representation has 
been provided for Small Farmers on the 
Agencies. The draft constitution etc. of the 
Agency (Statement II) is laid on the Table 
of the House. [Placed in Library . See No. LT- 
3389/72]. 

(c) Small Farmers are to be identified 
from among those cultivators having holdings 
between one and three hectares, generally. 
Details of disposal of applications for aid 
from Small Farmers in all the Agencies are 
not available. 

Ezccm expenditure incurred by States for 
Crash Programme for Rural Employment 

2138. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will 

the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 


to state : 

(a) the names of States which have 
exceeded the expenditure allotted by the 
Central Government on crash programme for 
rural employment scheme and the names of 
States which spent less than the allotted 
amount in 1971-72 ; and 

(b) the reaction of Government thereon ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) The States of Andhra 
Pradesh, Kerala and Tamil Nadu have 
exceeded the expenditure allocated by the 
Central Government under Crash Scheme for 
Rural Employment. The rest of the States 
have spent less than the amount allocated to 
them. 

(b) Some States could not spend fully 
the money allotted to them for a number of 
reasons. Since 1971-72 was the first year of 
operation of Crash Scheme for Rural Em- 
ployment various administrative and pro- 
cedural problems had to be solved. Then, for 
certain States there were special problems 
created by the Indo-Pak conflict, influx of 
refugees etc. All State Governments have 
been requested to step up the tempo during 
1972-73 so as to achieve the maximum 
targets. 

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Training In New Strategy • of Agriculture 
Under Farmers Training and Education 
Programme 

2143. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether covering 10 Districts in the 
country nearly 14 lakh farmers including 
men and women farmers, have been trained 
in the new strategy of agriculture under the 
Farmers Training and Education Programme ; 
and 

(b) if so, the names of the district with 
the States ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) ; (a) Yes, Under 
the Centrally Sponsord Scheme of the Farmers 
Training and Education, 100 districts have 
been established in the country to provide 
essential support to agricultural production 
effort. Total number of farmers (men and 
women) trained up to 30th June, 1972 is 
nearly 14 lakh as per details given in State- 
ment I laid on the Table of the House. 
[Placed in Library . See No. LT-3390/72]. 

(b) The Statewise names of 100 Districts 
covered under * the programme are given in 
Statement II laid on the Table of the House. 
[Placed in Library, See No. LT-3390/72]. 

Earnings of Shipping Corporation of India 
and Indian Shipping In Private Sector 

2144. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will 
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- 


PORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Shipping Corporation of 
India has earned a profit of Rs. 7.25 crore 
during the fiscal year 1971-72 ; 

(b) if so, the total tonnage of Indian 
Shipping including both public and private 
sector; and 

(c) whether the earnings of private sector 
of Indian Shipping are proportionately higher 
and if so, the reasons for the same ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- 
ARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : 
(a) Yes, Sir. Though the balance sheet for 
the year 1971-72 has not yet been published, 
the Shipping Corporation of India is estimated 
to make a profit of about Rs. 7.25 crores 
during the year 1971-72 ; 

(b) The total operative tonnage of all 
Indian shipping companies as on 31.3.72 was 
as follows : 

Private Sector 12,95,314 GRT 

Public Sector . . 12,25,106 GRT 

Total : 25,20,420 GRT 

(c) No, Sir. The returns of the Shipping 
Corporation of India on the total capital 
employed calculated for the last 10 years 
comes to an average of 8.17 per cent which is 
higher than the returns of other private sectoi 
shipping companies of comparable size engaged 
in similar operations. 

Finalisation of Fisheries Project in Mysore 

2145. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to refer to the reply given to Unstarred ques- 
tion No. 1735 on the 3rd April, 1972 regard- 
ing development of deep sea fishing industry 
in Mysore and state further progress of 
fisheries project to develop Malpe and 
Hounavar Ports as fishing harbours and to 
provide facilities in and around Karwar for 
fishing and preservation of fish ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : The project 
proposed by the Government of Mysore for 
development of fisheries at Malpe, Honnavar 
and Karwar with assistance from the World 
Bank is under examination with reference to 
the terms and conditions of World Bank 



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assistance for such projects. In the meantime, 
detailed project Reports including plans and 
estimates for fishing harbours at Malpe and 
Honnavar have prepared by the UNDP 
Project for Pre-Investment Survey of fishing 
harbours. The estimated cost of the fishing 
harbours proposed for Malpe and Honnavar 
is Rs. ?75.00 lakhs and Rs. 41.45 lakhs 
respectively. The question of sanctioning 
these harbours is under examination in 
consultation with the Ministry of Finance. So 
far as Karwar fishing harbour is concerned, 
a total amount of Rs 25.99 lakhs has been 
sanctioned so far by the Government of India 
between 1967 and 1972. The facilities 
provided at Karwar include a wharf, slipway 
and auction hall. Under the provision of the 
Indo-Norwegian Agreement, a fishermen’s 
training centre, a boat building yard with a 
servicing station and workshop, an ice plant, 
and cold storage and freezing plant have 
been provided. 

Long-Term Development Programme for 

Fishing Potential on Coastal Areas 

2146. SHRI RAJ DEO SINGII : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether a long-term development 
programme to exploic the fishing potential 
along the thousands of miles of coast line 
covering many States has been drawn ; and 

(b) if so, the main features of it ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b). 
The Deep Sea Surwy Organisation (establis- 
hed in 1946) in coordination with the Central 
Marine Fisheries Research Institute (started 
m 1947), and the Indo-Norwegian Project 
(1953-71) have been conducting exploratory 
and experimental fishing, and biological and 
oceanographic studies, on a continuing basis, 
with a view to assessing the fishery resources 
of our seas. Charting of resources up to a 
depth of 25 fathoms (150 feet) ha3 been 
ea»ried out extensively, and in some areas 
exploiatory work has been conducted upto 
about 40 fathoms. In the southern stretch of 
tlu* coast, from Mangalore on the West to 
Mandaparn on the East, surveys have been 
conducted at much greater depths, and 
valuable resources of deep sea shrimp and 
lobster htfve been located between 100 and 
^5 fathoms. The emphasis until recently has 
been on demersal stocks, i. e„ stocks occurring 


close to the sea bottom. Increasing attention 
is now being given to pelagic stocks, i. e., 
surface and mid- water stocks. A five-year 
programme of investigation of pelagic fishery 
resources along the South West Coast was 
taken up with UNDP assistance in 1971. 
A proposal for a similar UNDP assisted survey 
on the East Coast has been submitted to 
UNDP for consideration. During the 5th 
Plan, which is now being formulated, it is 
proposed to expand the activities of the Deep 
sea Survey Organisation and the Central 
Marine Fisheries Research Institute by provi- 
ding larger vessels with a wider range of 
operation. The Indo-Norwegian Project is 
proposed to be continued as an Intergratcd 
Project for Fisheries Development. Proposals 
are also being cansidercd for the conduct of 
special surveys and experimental fishing for 
tuna, which is a valuable variety of fish with 
export potential. 

• 

Study Team on Development of dry land 
Agriculture 

2147. PROF. NARAIN CHAND 
PARASHAR : Will the Minister of AGRI- 
CULTURE be pleased to state : 

(a) the names of the members of the 
Study team on the Development of Dry Land 
Agriculture (and Dry Farming Technology) 
set up by the Government of India : 

(b) the date on which the Study Team 
was set up ; and 

(c) the likely date by which the Commi- 
ttee is expected to complete its work and 
submit its report ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The names 
of the members of the Study Team are given 
below : 


1. Dr. A. S, Chcema, Agriculture Commi- 
ssioner. 

* ' Chairman 

2. Dr. J. S. Kanwar, Deputy Director 
General, ICAR. 

* 'Alternate Chairman 

3. Dr, A. M. Michael, (Water Techno- 
logy Centre) I. A. R. I., New Delhi. 

• ■ Member 


4. Dr. D. P. Motiramani, 

Jawaharlal Nehru Vidyalaya, Jabbalpur. 

• • Member 



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5. Dr. N. D. Rege, Joint Commissioner 
(SC). 

• * Member 

6. Dr. G. A. Patel, 

Director of Agriculture, Gujarat. 

■ 'Member 

7. Dr. Ranbir Singh. Director of Agricul- 
ture, Rajasthan. 

Membtr 

8. Shri P. S. Majumdar, 

Chief (Agri.), Planning Commission. 

'Member 

9. Dr. K. N. Synghal, 

Director (Dry Farming) 

■ ■ Member Secretary. 

(b) The Study Team was set up on 3rd 
January, 1972. 

(c) The Study Team has already submitted 
its final report for the approval of the Govern- 
ment of India. 


Extension of Panchayati Raj to all States 
and Union Territories 

2148. PROF. NARAIN CHAND 
PAR ASH AR : Will the Minister of AGRI- 
CULTURE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Panchayati Raj does not 
extend to all the States and Union territories 
of the country ; 

(b) if so, whether it is contemplated to 
extend it to all the States and Union territories 
and to persuade the Slates in which it is not 
implemented ; and 

(c) the likely date by which the whole 
country is expected to be covered by this 
programme ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) to (c). The Panchayati 
Raj extends to all the States and Union 
Territories in the country except Jammu and 
Kashmir, Kerala, Nagaland, Meghalaya, 
Manipur, Tripura, Delhi, Goa, Daman and 
Diu, Pondicherry, Andaman and Nicobar 
Islands, Dadra and Nagar Haveli, Laccadive, 
Minicoy and Amindive Islands and Mizoram. 

Panchayati Raj is a State subject and the 
Central Government has been constantly 
urging upon the State Governments and 
Union Territory Administrations the need for 
rarly implementation of the Panchayati Raj 
Programme. The approach to policy on 


Community Development and Panchayati Raj 
was last considered by the Conference of 
States* Ministers in-charge of Community 
Development and Panchayati Raj held at 
Madras in June, 1968. The Conference 
commended that “Panchayati Raj as the 
instrument of democratic decentralisation 
should continue, the question of three-tier or 
two-tier structure being left to the option of 
the States.’* No time limit has, however, 
been envisaged for this. 

Study of Rural Unemployment by some 
Institutions 

2149. PROF. NARAIN CHAND 
PARASHAR : Will the Minister of AGRI- 
CULTURE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether 12 studies have been carried 
out in different parts of the country through 
the Agro-Economic Research Centres and 
other research bodies to ascertain the nature 
and extent of xural unemployment and the 
impact of Crash Scheme for Rural Employ- 
ment ; 

(b) whether the institutions have comple- 
ted their surveys and reports have been submit- 
ted to the Government ; and 

(c) if so, the main findings of these 
reports ; and if not, the date by which the 
reports are expected to be completed ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) to (c). Yes Sir. These 
studies are in progress. The major portion of 
surveys is over. The Government expect to 
receive the reports shortly. 

Recommendation of Central Land 
Reforms Committee, 1970 

2150. PROF. NARAIN CHAND 
PARASHAR : Will the Minister of AGRI- 
CULTURE be pleased to state : 

(a) the names of the Members of the 
Central Land Reforms Committee, to which 
the Conference of Chief Ministers referred to 
problems connected with ceiling on land 
holdings ; and 

(b) the exact recommendations of this 
Committee, as made in its repot t in August, 
1970 ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The Central 



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Land Reforms Committee is composed of the 
following : 

1. Minister of Agriculture — Chairman 

2. Minister of Law and Justice — Member 

3. Minister of Planning — Member 

4. Minister of State in the 

Ministry of Agriculture — Member 

5. Minister of State in the 

Ministiy of Home Affairs — Member 

6. Member (Agriculture) Planning 

Commission — Member 

The Chief Ministers of Bihar, Himachal 
Pradesh, Maharashtra, Punjab and Tamil 
Nadu were co-opted as members of the 
Central Land Reforms Committee to consider 
problems connected with the ceiling on land 
holdings. 

(b) The Central Land Rcfoims Commi- 
ttee was set up in September 1970. It submi- 
tted its rtxommcndations in August 1971 and 
not in August 1970. The Recommendations 
of the Committee were as follows : 

( i ) Ceiling should be applicable for 
the family as a whole, the term 
‘family* being defined so as to 
include husband, wife and minor 
children , 

(ii) When* the number of members in 
the family exceeds five, additional 
land may be allowed for each 
memb< r in excess of five in such 
a manner that the total area 
admissible to the family docs not 
exceed twice the ceiling limit for 
a family ; 

(ni) The ceiling for a family of five 
members may be fixed within the 
range of 10 to 18 acres of pere- 
nnially irrigated land or land 
under assured irrigation from 
Government source capable of 
glowing two crops. As soil condi- 
tions, productivity of land, nature 
of crop grown etc. vary from 
State to State and even within 
the same State from region to 
region, the Committee considered 
it desirable simply to indicate a 
range within which the ceiling 
should be fixed instead of sugges- 
ting any rigid ceiling for the 
whole country ; 


(iv) For various other categories of 
land conversion ratios should be 
fixed taking into account availa- 
bility of water, productivity, soil 
classification, crops grown etc. 
The absolute ceiling for a family 
of five, even in the case of dry 
lands should be put at 54 acres. 
This limit would be relaxable if 
there is special justification for 
doing so on account of the nature 
of soil, rainfall, chronic drought 
conditions etc. 

(v) Exemptions in the existing State 
Laws in favour of mechanised 
farms, well-managed farms etc. 
should be withdrawn ; 

(vi) The exemption in favour of plan- 
tations of tea, coffee, cardamom, 
rubber ^tc., should be carefully 
examined in consultation with the 
Ministries concerned and State 
Governments. Thereafter this 
and other types of exemptions 
should be discussed with the Chief 
Ministers in order to formulate 
the national policy. 

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Faith Homes ran by Christian 
Missionaries 

2152. DR. LAXMINARAIN PANDEYA : 
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of ‘faith homes’ in India 
run by Christian Missionaries ; 

(b) the activities of the faith homes ; and 

(c) Government grant if any ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA- 
SWAMY) : (a) to (c). The information is 
being collected and will be laid on the Table 
of the House in due course. 

Elimination of Communal and Caste 
Influence in Education 

2153. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : 

SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : 

Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether communalism and casteism 


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still exercise considerable influence in the 
sphere of education : 

(b) whether any efforts have been made 
by the Centre to eliminate such communal 
and caste influences on education ; and 

(c) if so, the results achieved so far in 
this respect ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) : 

(a) Government have received reports that 
Communalism and Casteism manifest them- 
selves on certain occasion in varying degiees 
in national life and this has its repercussion 
in certain spheres of educations 

(b) To counteract and ultimately elimi- 
nate such influences, Government have been 
taking several steps to promote positive attitu- 
des of integration, rationalism and secularism 
in the academic community. These include 
inter-Statc and other types of student camps 
where young people of various communities, 
castes and regions live together and learn to 
appreciate each other’s culture and tradition, 
establishment of national integration samitis 
in universities and colleges to promote attitu- 
des of integration, bringing out text materials 
which instil concepts of integration and 
secularism, necessary orientation of teachers, 
bringing together writers of different regions 
so that they develop mutual understanding 
and appreciation which will in turn be reflec- 
ted in their books, etc. 

(c) It needs persistent, continuous and 
long-term effort to bieak down long- entrenched 
attitudes and mores. Nevertheless, the steps 
taken so far have brought about better under- 
standing within the academic community, and 
Government have every hope that with conti- 
nued effort, the objective will be ultimately 
achieved. 

Codification of Privileges of Parliament 

2154. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : Will 
the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether there is any proposal to 
codify the privileges of Parliament ; and 

(b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- 
TARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : 
(a) No, Sir. 

(b) Question does not arise. 



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Separate Pool of Residences for Staff of 
Hospitals in the Capital 

2155. SHRI R. S. PANDEY : 

SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : 

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND 
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state 
whether Government is considering to create 
a separate pool of residences for allotment 
to the staff working in Government Hospitals 
in the Capital keeping in view the nature of 
their duties, in the public interest ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CH ATTOPADI I Y AYA) : Yes. So far as the 
(i) Safdaijang (ii) Willingdon and (iii) Lady 
Hardinge and Kalavati Saran Children 
Hospitals with which the Central Government 
is concerned there is a proposal to have a 
pool of residences for the staff separately for 
each of these hospitals. 

Disposal of D. D. A. Residential Plots by 
Public Auction 

2156. SHRI R S PANDEY : Will the 
Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether most of the plots of land 
developed by the Delhi Development Authori- 
ty for residential pui poses are disposed of by 
public auction and sold at very high prices ; 

(b) whether such plots of land are pur- 
chased by the richer class of society as per- 
sons belonging to middle income or lower 
income groups cannot afford to purchase 
them in auction ; if so, reasons for not allot- 
ing these plots to people on fixed rates by 
draw of lots ; and 

(c) whether Government propose to 
advise the Delhi Development Authority to 
offer these plots of land to the public on rea- 
sonable fixed rates or fix some quota of the 
plots which would be put to auction in future 
to enable the salaried class to purchase these 
plots of land for residential purposes ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) No, Sir. So 
far, the Delhi Development Authority have 
allotted 13,060 residential plots. Out of these, 


6,460 have been allotted at fixed price, and 
not by auction. 

(b) and (c). The policy of disposing of a cer- 
tain quantum of developed land by auction is 
intended to raise funds which are ploughed 
back for investment in infrastructural facili- 
ties and services, for subsidising housing for 
the lower income groups and for provision 
and maintenance of greens and public 
open spaces. Some developed plots are 
earmarked for allotment at pre-determined 
rates by draw of lots to persons in the low 
and middle income groups. All persons can 
participate in open auction of developed 
plots provided they do not have a plot or 
house already in Delhi either in their own 
name or in the name of their husband/wife 
or dependent children. 

Area of Land under Sugar-cane Cultiva- 
tion 

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2157. SHRI R. S. PANDEY : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) the total area of land at present 
under cultivation of sugar-cane in the coun- 
try and the additional land which is proposed 
to be brought under its cultivation in different 
States ; and 

(b) the steps being taken to implement 
this decision and its expected yield during the 
current year ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SH1NDE) : (a) and (b). 
Estimates of area and production of sugar- 
cane during the current year (1972-73) arc 
not yet available. While there are no specific 
plans for bringing additional area under its 
cultivation, there are indications that the area 
under the crop m the country would show an 
increase over 1971-72 

Admission to Pre-medical Courses of 
Delhi University 

2158. SHRI R. S. PANDEY ; Will the 
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether a large number of students 
securing first class marks have been denied 
admission to the pre-Medical course of Delhi 
University this year owing to its meagre in- 
take capacity of seats for this course ; 

(b) whether rush of this course has been 
increasing for the last few years ; and 



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172 


(c) if so, reasons for not increasing the 
intake capacity of the institutions and what 
steps aie now being taken to accommodate 
students in the pr^Medical course of the 
Delhi University ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) Accord- 
ing to the information furnished by Delhi 
University 486 candidates who had obtained 
67% and below marks but above 60% marks 
could not be admitted to the Pre-Medical 
Course. 

(b) Yes, Sir. 

(c) On account of limited physical faci- 
lities in the colleges it is not possible for the 
University to inciease the intake capacity. 
The students who have not been able to 
obtain admission in the Pre-Medical course, 
are now eligible for admission to second year 
B. Sc. (Hons.) class in Botany and Zoology. 

Admission to College of Professional 
Studies, Delhi 

2159. SHRI R. S. PANDEY : Will the 
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether there has been a rush of 
students for admission to the College of Pro- 
fessional Studies recently started by the 
Delhi University and many students have 
not been able to get admission because of its 
limited intake capacity ; 

(b) the subjects offered by this institu- 
tion ; and 

(c) whether it is proposed to open more 
such institutions for the benefit of students 
seeking professional studies ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) 1500 
students applied for admission to the various 
courses m the College of Vocational Studies. 
The first list of 412 candidates was announ- 
ced by the University on July 10, 1972. Out 
of this list only 181 students turned up for 
admission. The second list of 209 candidates 
was announced the next day, out of whom 
123 came for admission. Subsequently three 
more lists were announced and it was on 
July 28, 1972 only that the admission could 
be completed. The total number of students' 
admitted to the College is 407. 

(b) During the academic year 1972-73 


the following six subjects will be introduced 
as an integral part of the B. A. (Pass) course : 

(i) Tourism ; 

(ii) Book- Publishing; 

(iii) Insurance ; 

(lv) Retailing and Trade ; 

(v) Store-Keeping and Stores Account- 
ing ; and 

(vi) Office Management and Secretary- 
ship. 

(c) The University proposes to open one 
more college of Vocational studies from the 
next academic session. 

Post-Matric Scholarship to S. C. and S. T. 

Students 

2160. SHRI K. S. CHAVDA : Will the 
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state the amount of 
post-matric scholarships offered by the Centre 
as well as State Governments, State -wise, to 
the students belonging to the Scheduled Castes 
and Scheduled Tribes during 1969-70, 1970-71 
and 1971-72 ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SO- 
CIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA- 
SWAMY) : A statement is laid on tbc Table 
of the Sabha. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 
3391/72 ]. 

Closure of British India Steam Naviga- 
tion Company 

2161. SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKO- 
DKAR : Will the Minister of SHIPPING 
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Century old monopoly 
of the British India Steam Navigation Com- 
pany on the Indo-West Asian passenger run 
is to end soon ; and 

(b) if so, what alternative arrangements 
for the same have been made ? 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- 
TARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : (a) 
and (b). The Mogul Line Ltd., a public sector 
spipping company, have started a passenger- 
cum-cargo service between Bombay and West 
Asia Gulf ports from 26th June, 1972, with 
their new vessel M. V. Akbar. With this, 
the monopoly of the British India Steam 
Navigation Company on this route will end. 



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Linking of Cooperative Credit with Co* 
operative Marketing Societies 

2162. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state: 

(a) how many State Marketing Federation 
have completed the study of the operation of 
the scheme of linking of cooperative credit 
with cooperative marketing in any particular 
district of the State ; 

(b) the action taken by the National 
Cooperative Development Cooperation on the 
report of the Kerala State Cooperative Mar- 
keting Federation ; and 

(c) the reasons for conducting such a 
study ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNAS AHEB P. SHINDE) x (a) Only Kerala 
State Cooperative Marketing Federation has 
completed a sample study of the operation of 
the scheme of linking of cooperative credit 
with marketing in two Talukas of Calicut and 
I’alghat Districts. 

(b) The comments of the Government of 
Kerala have been invited on receipt of which 
further action will he taken by the N C D.G. 

(c) A Ramplc study of the working of 
Cooperative Marketing Societies, with parti- 
cular reference of the progress in the imple- 
mentation of the scheme of linking of coopera- 
tive credit with cooperative marketing in 
Ajmer District of Rajasthan, conducted by 
the Jodhpur University, revealed certain short- 
comings in the operation of the scheme, This 
prompted the N. C. D. C. to suggest to all 
State Cooperative Marketing Federations to 
undertake similar studies in one of the districts 
in their respective States, with a view to 
identifying and remedying the shortcomings 
of the scheme. 

Financial Assistance to Rice Mills for 
Modernisation 

2163. SHRI P, A. SAMINATHAN : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) the State-wise break-up of 48 existing 
conventional rice mills which had been given 
financial assistance for modernisation ; 

(b) how many of them have been modcr* 
nised so far ; and 

(c) the action taken to find solution to the 


prohlems relating to the organisation, establish- 
ment, financing and working of these rice mills 
which were discussed in the All India Con- 
ference on Cooperative Rice Mills held at 
Hyderabad in ‘November, 1971 ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) A statement 
is laid on the Table of the House. 

(b) Ten. 

(c) The recommendations of the Con- 
ference held at Hyderabad were communi- 
cated to the State Governments and the apex 
cooperative marketing Federations, who have 
to initiate necessary action in the matter. 
The N. C. D. C. provides 75% of the block 
capital requirements for establishment of 
modern rice mills in the cooperative sector, 
under a Central Sector Scheme. It is also 
providing assisttnee for the margin money 
requirements of the rice mills to enable them 
to raise adequate working capital from the 
scheduled/commercial banks which have been 
advised by the Reserve Bank of India to 
liberally provide such assistance to modern 
rice mills in the cooperative sector. 

A special Working Group was constituted 
to go into the difficulties faced by the coopera- 
tive rice mills. As recommended by the 
Group, the State Governments and the F. C. 
I. have been advised to utilise cooperative 
rice mills to the maximum extent possible for 
the milling of paddy and also to increasingly 
utilise the cooperatives in their procurement 
operations. Arrangements have also been 
made with the Indian Institute of Technology 
Kharagpur, to conduct suitable courses for 
training senior technical personnel of coopera- 
tive rice mills. Besides, rice mill machinery 
manufacturers have been requested to provide 
efficient after-sales service and they have 
agreed to do so. 


Name of the State 

No. of rice mills which 
were assisted for moder- 
nisation. 

I. Andhra Pradesh 

1 

2. Assam 

4 

3. Bihar 

5 

4. Madhya Pradesh 

10 

5. Orissa 

17 

6. West Bengal 

6 

7. Mysore 

5 


Total 48 



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Blueprints by National Cooperative 
Development Corporation or Cooperatives 
for establishing Agricultural processing 
Units 

2164. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) the number of model blueprints for- 
mulated and circulated by the National 
Cooperative Development Corporation during 
the past three years for the purpose of pro- 
viding guidelines to the cooperatives for and 
establishment of agriculture processing units ; 

(b) the number of agricultural processing 
units established during the past three years 
on the basis of model blueprints provided by 
N. C. D. C. ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB. P. SHINDE) : (a) The National 
Cooperative Development Corporation formu- 
lated and circulated 15 model blueprints for the 
purpose of providing guidelines to the coope- 
ratives, for establishment of agricultural pro- 
cessing units, during the last three years, i. e. 
1969-70 to 1971-72. 

(b) 56 cooperative processing units were 
organised during the last three years based on 
the model blueprints circulated by the N. C. 
D. C. 

Utilisation of Sugar bye-Prodncts by 
Sugar Factories 

2165. SHRI V. MAY A VAN : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) the names of locations of 14 sugar 
factories which have taken up projects for the 
utilisation of sugar bye-produrts ; 

(b) whether any assessment has been 
made of the difficulties faced by other coopera- 
tive sugar factories in setting up projects for 
the utilisation of sugar bye -products ; and 

(c) if so, the steps taken by Government 
for removing such difficulties ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) So far as bagasse is concer- 
ned, M/s. Shctkari Sahakari Sakhar Kar- 
khana Ltd., Sangli, (Maharashtra) have 
obtained a Letter of Intent for setting up a 
plant for the manufacture of newsprint with 


an annual capacity of 44,500 tonnes, based on 
bagasse. Molasses is mainly used as raw 
material in distillation industry. At present 
37 sugar factories have distilleries attached to 
them for the manufacture of industrial alcohol, 
rectified spirit and potable liquors. 

(b) and (c). The industries making use of 
the bye -products of the sugar industry as raw 
material are being looked after by different 
Ministries. A co-ordinated assessment of the 
difficulties faced by the cooperative sugar 
factories in setting up such projects does not 
appear to have been made so far. 

Steps by National Cooperative Develop- 
ment Corporation regarding Installation 
of Sugar Factories on Cooperative basis 

2166. SHRI V. MAYA VAN : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state t 

(a) the steps taken by the National Co- 
operative Development Corporation as a result 
of the discussions held with the representatives 
of newly licensed sugar cooperatives on the 
5th and 6th July, 1971, at Poona, regarding 
the difficulties being faced by them in complet- 
ing the installation of their factories ; and 

(b) how many factories have started 
production as a result of the efforts of the 
N. C. D. C. ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The N. C. 
D. C. has taken the following steps in the 
matter : — 

(i) Raising of share capital 

The State Governments have been request- 
ed to enhance the Plan provisions for contri- 
bution towards the share capital of sugar 
cooperatives. In the case of some States, the 
Plan provisions have been enhanced. However, 
there is still a constraint of availability of 
resources. 

The sugar factories have been advised to 
persuade cane growers to avail of facilities 
available from the Reserve Bank of India for 
medium term loans for purchase of shares in 
newly lincensed cooperative sugar factories. 
The Reserve Bank of India has also been 
requested to simplify the scheme so as to 
make it easy to operate, 

(Ii) Availability of long term finances 

The N. C. D. C. has maintained close 



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liaison with the Industrial Finance Corporation 
and is also represented on the Sugar Industry 
Loan Advisory Committee of the IFC. 

The IFC convened a Conference of all 
newly licensed cooperative sugar factories in 
April 1972, and there is now little difficulty 
for eligible cooperative sugar factories in 
obtaining loan from the Industrial Finance Cor- 
poration for their block capital requirements. 

(iii) Supply of plant and machinery 

Liaison is being maintained with the 
Ministry of Industrial Development, which 
organised a meeting with manufacturers of 
sugar mills machinery, and various measures 
have been initiated to expedite, to the extent 
possible, the supply of plant and machinery 
ordered by sugar factories. 

(tv) Development of sugarcane 

The State Governments have been advised 
to take special steps for the development of 
sugarcane in the command area of newly 
licensed sugar factories. The matter is being 
followed up by the N. C. D. C. 

(b) Subsequent to the Poona Conference, 
6 new cooperative sugar factories have gone 
into production. 

Cooperative Sugar Factories 

2167. SHRI V. MAYA VAN : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) the names and location of 74 coope- 
rative sugar factories to whom an amount of 
Rs. 65. 83 crores has been sanctioned as loan 
up to June, 197 1 mentioned in para 23 of 
Report, 1971-72 of Ministry of Agriculture 
(Department of Cooperation) ; and 

(b) the names and location of cooperative 
sugar factories which are yet to pay the 
initial loan back to the Industrial Finance 
Corporation of India ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) A state- 
ment is laid on the Table of the House* 
[Placed in Library . See No. L-T 3392/72]. 

(b) The cooperative sugar factories which 
have been marked with in the statement laid 
0n the Table of the House have yet to pay 
fully the initial loan obtained from the 

Industrial Finance Corporation of India, 


Non-Cooperation of Sugar Manufacturers 
with Government 

2168. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will the 
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether the sugar manufacturers have 
decided not to co-operate with the Govern- 
ment and not to accept the verdict of the 
Government since 1st July, 1972 ; and 

(b) the reaction of Government thereto ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). A number of 
sugar factories have filed writ petitions in 
the Supreme Court and the various High 
Courts, and obtained interim orders restrain- 
ing the Government from enforcing the Sugar 
(Price Determination) Order, 1972, fixing 
the prices of levy fugar, subject to the facto- 
ries providing bank guarantees for the deffer- 
ence between the notified prices and the 
prices at which the sugar is actually sold by 
them. The matter is sub judice . 

Popularising Hindi In Eastern Region 

2169. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will 
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Hindi Shiksha Samiti 
has recommended that special attention 
should be paid to popularising Hindi in the 
eastern region of the country, specially in the 
recently constituted States ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Government 
thereto and the steps taken in this direc- 
tion ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF lEDUCATION AND SO* 
CIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA* 
SWAMY) : (a) At the meeting of the 
Hindi Shiksha^ Samiti held on the 18th July, 
1972, the representative from Meghalaya 
suggested that special attention should be 
paid for the spread of Hindi in the eastern 
States. 

(b) The Government of India will consi- 
der favourably any request received cither 
from the concerned State, Governments or 
from the Voluntary Hindi Organisations for 
financial assistance required for propagation 
of Hindi in these States. 



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Agency for opening Small and Marginal 
Farmers Development Scheme in each 
District 

2170. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether Government have set up any 
Agency for opening Small Farmers’ and 
Marginal Farmers’ agencies in each District 
in the country for the benefit of Small and 
Marginal Farmers ; 

(b) if so, the total number of such Small 
Farmers’ and Marginal Farmers* Agencies 
set up so far in the country ; and 

(c) the number of farmers benefited so 
far during the last three years ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : (a) No Sir. 

(b) The pilot experiment of setting up 
SFDA/MFAL Agencies has been taken up in 
87 selected project areas of the country. 

(c) According to the Progress reports 
received from the Agencies, upto 31st May, 
1972, 1.5 lakh small farmers under the SFDA 
and 0.47 lakh marginal farmers and agricul- 
tural labourers under the MFALs have been 
benefited under various programmes. 

Storage Capacity of Foodgrains 

2171. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will 
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased 
to state : 

(a) the existing capacity of the storage 
of foodgrains in India as on the 30th June, 
1972 ; 

(b) the quantity of foodgrains procured 
by various State Governments in the country 
during this year upto 30th June, 1972 ; 

(c) whether some quantity of foodgrains 
is still lying in open due to paucity of storage 
facilities, if so, the steps taken by Govern- 
ment to protect these foodgrains ; and 

(d) the quantity of foodgrains damaged 
due to lack of storage facilities in the country 
during the last three years ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The 
owned Storage capacity with Government 
Agencies as on 31.3.1972 was as under:— 


(in million tonnes ) 


Agency 

Capacity 

Food Corporation of India 

4.33 

State Governments 

1.69 

Central Warehousing Cor- 

0.89 

poration. 

State Warehousing Cor- 

0.35 

porations. 

Cooperatives 

3.10 

10.36 


(b) A quantity of 8.3 million tonnes of 
foodgrains has been procured upto the 30th 
June, 1972, during the current Kharif and 
Rabi procurement seasons. 

(c) All procured foodgiains have been 
kept under covered storage including cover 
and plinth (GAP) storage. The owned capa- 
city lias been supplemented by hired capacity 
by the various Agencies. 

(d) Foodgrains procured on Central 
account have not been damaged due to lack 
of storage facilities. 

Smuggling of Priceless Fossils from Pun- 
jab University to Yale University 

2172. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will 
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government’s attention has 
been drawn to the smuggling of priceless 
Fossils from Punjab University, Chandigarh to 
Yale University, in violation of the contract ; 

(b) if so, the action Government propose 
to take or have taken in the matter ; and 

(c) what precautionary steps Govern- 
ment propose to take so that such things are 
not repeated in future ? 

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 
(PROF. S. NURUL HASANj: (a) The Punjab 
University has not reported any such case. 

(b) and (c). Do not arise. 

House Sites to Landless Workers in Kerala 

2173. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : 

DR. HENRY AUSTIN : 

Will the Minister of WORKS AND 
HOUSING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether any scheme regarding pro* 



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vision of house sites to landless workers in 
rural areas was forwarded by the Government 
of Kerala ; 

(b) if so, the nature of the assistance 
sought from the Central Government ; and 

(c) the decision taken in this matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF 
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P. 
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes. 

(b) The Government of Kerala had 
sought Central assistance amounting to about 
Rs. 8 crores ; comprising about Rs. 6 crores 
for acquisition of land required for providing 
house-sites to the landless workers in rural 
areas, and Rs. 2 ciores towards development 
of these sites. 

(c) The Central Government have sanc- 
tioned the projec ts for provision of 9(3,000 
house sites, in 960 Panchayat areas. The 
State Government have also been sanctioned 
grant- in-atd of Rs. 2.74 crores during the 
current financial year, out of which Rs. 2 02 
crores is intended to meet 33-1/3% of the 
cost of acquisition of about 46$ 1 acres of 
land. The balance 66.2/3% of the cost of 
land will be paid to the owners of the land 
m the form of negotiable bonds to be re- 
el cenicd by the State Government during the 
next to financial years. The Government 
of India will, in turn, reimburse these 
amounts (as and when they become due) to 
the State Government. 

The remaining Rs. 72 lakhs of the sanc- 
tioned Central assistance would cover 50% 
of the cost of development of 96,000 house- 
sites. The balance of 50% expenditure on 
development of these sites will be arranged 
by the State Government through voluntary 
labour/contributions by the beneficiaries etc. 

Grants given to Bogus Harijan Welfare 
Organisation 

2174. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO : 
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND 
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government of India have 
received complaints that giants have been 
Riven during the last many years in the names 

bogus Harijan welfare organisations who 
d° not exist ; 

(b) if so, whether any enquiry had been 


conducted by Government and if so, with 
what results ; and 

(c) the amount of grant given to such 
organisations during the last three years ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL 
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) : 

(a) No. 

(b) and (c). Do not arise. 

Supply of Helicopters by a Japanese firm 
for Agricultural purpose 

2175. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO : 
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have approached 
a Japanese firm about the possibility of supply- 
ing 40 helicopters for agricultural purposes 
recently ; 

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(b) if so, whether any reply has since been 
received from that firm ; and 

(c) the main points thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P SHINDE) : (a) No, Sir. 

(b) and (c). Do not arise. 

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Role of Catholic Bishops Against the 
Government Policy of Unifying fees in 
Government and Private Colleges in 
Kerala 

2180. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : 
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether the attention of Government 
has been drawn to the fact that Catholic 
Bishops in Kerala had taken direct part in 
organising their religious followers in that 
State, against the policy of Government in 
unifying the fees in Government and private 
colleges ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Government 
thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) Efforts are being made to bring about 
a settlement. 

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190 


Applications for Licences to start Indust- 
ries in M. P. 

2182. SHRI RANA BAHADUR SINGH : 
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH- 
NOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of applications received 
by Government from individuals and Compa- 
nies from January 1970 to 31st March, 1972 
for licences to start industries in Madhya 
Pradesh with names of the applicants and the 
nature of industries they wanted to start and 
how many of them have been issued licences ; 
and 

(b) the location of the industries ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) and (bj. The number of applications for 
licences for the establishment of new indust- 
ries in Madhya Pradesh received during the 
period 1.1.70 to 30.6.72 is 126. Six industrial 
licences and 44 letters of intent for new 
industries in Madhya Pradesh have been issued 
during this period. Details of pending appli- 
cations are normally not disclosed. The details 
of all the liccnces/letters of intent issued, 
showing also the industry to which they relate 
and location etc., are regularly published in 
the weekly ‘Bulletin of Industrial Licences, 
Import Licences and Export Licences’, the 
weekly ‘Indian Trade Journal', and the monthly 
‘Journal of Industry and Trade'. Copies of 
these publications are supplied to the Parlia- 
ment Library. 

Applications for Cement Plant in M. P. 

2183. SIIRI MARTAND SINGH OF 
REWA : Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of applications pending 
with his Ministry for sanction regarding the 
opening of Cement Plants in Madhya Pradesh ; 
and 

(b) the reasons for delay in thei.' disposal ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
U) and (b) a One application belonging to a 
Kroup of Larger Business Houses, is pending. 
This is awaiting necessary clearance from the 
M. R. T. P. angle. 


Heavy Industries in M. P. 

2184. SHRI MARTAND SINGH OF 
REWA i Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of heavy industries along 
with their location, in Madhya Pradesh, both 
in the public and private sectors along with 
the items being manufactured by them ; and 

(b) the number of persons employed by 
them ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR 
PRASAD) :(a)The number of major industrial 
units in Madhya Pradesh in the public and pri- 
vate sectors is 26 and 112 respectively. Some of 
the major industries of the State include 
Industrial Machinery like rayon plant, solvent 
extraction plantj crushing equipment, coal, 
iron ore, iron and steel, steel castings, bright 
bars and shadings, transformer generating 
sets, switchgear and motors, aluminium con- 
ductors, cement and asbestos cement products, 
chemical industries, oil and flour milling, 
paper, sugar, cotton and synthetic textiles. 
Some of the important locations of industries 
in the State are Bhopal, Ujjain, Dewas, 
Maheshwar, Burhanpur, Kymore, Mandhar, 
Chandni, Raipur, Bhilai, Indore, Gwalior, 
Bailadilla, Satna, Jabalpur and Ratlam. 

(b) The number of persons employed in 
Public and Private Sectors is reported by the 
State Government as 86,541 and 1,12,352, 
respectively. 

Enlargement of Fourth Plan For M.P. in 
view of its Backwardness 

2186. SHRI MARTAND SINGH OF 
REWA : 

SHRI G.C. DIXIT : 

Will tl*c Minister of PLANNING be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government propose to 
enlarge the Fourth Five Year Plan for the 
State of Madhya Pradesh in view of its back- 
wardness ; and 

(b) if BO, the details regarding the 
schemes and allocation of money for this 
purpose ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
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the resources available for financing the 
Fourlh Five Year Plan of Madhya Pradesh, 
it has been found that the outlay on the 
State's Plan can be increased to Rs. 435 
crores from the present approved outlay of 
Rs. 393 crores. This increase in outlay 
is proposed to be financed from the State's 
own resources. Recently a request has been 
made for a further increase in the Fourth 
Five Year Plan outlay of Madhya Pradesh. 
The matter is under consideration. 

(b) The sectoral allocation of the increas- 
ed outlay proposed by the Government of 
Madhya Pradesh is still to be decided. 

Charge Indicator Meter 

2187. SHRI AMAR NATH GHAWLA : 
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 
be pleased to refer to the reply given to 
Unstarred Question No. 2671 on the 12th 
April, 1972 regarding Installation of telephone 
meters and state : 

(a) whether the field trial of the sophisti- 
cated Charge Indicator meter, capable of 
recording telephone calls, has since been com- 
pleted and the question of installing these 
meters at subscribers places has been decided; 
and 

(b) if so, when ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) No 
Sir. Not Yet. 

(b) Question does not arise. 

Applicability of the Decision taken by 
Cabinet Secretariat to Central Secretariat 
Service 

2189. DR. RANEN SEN : Will the 
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the decision contained in 
para 4 of the Cabinet Secretariat (Department 
of Personnel's) O. M. No. 9/3/72-Estt. (D) 
date the 22nd July, 1972 is applicable to the 
Central Secretariat Service ; and 

(b) if not, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND 
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON- 
NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) i (a) 
No, Sir. 

(b) The instructions of 22nd July, 1972 
are applicabe to those Services/posts under the 


Centra! Government to which the general 
principles of seniority as contained in MHA 
O.M. No. 9/11/55-RPS dated 22nd December 
1959 had been applied. The O. M. of 22nd 
December 1959 was not applied to the Cen- 
tral Secretariat Service for which separate 
principles of seniority had been laid down. 
The issue is, however, sub judtee since some of 
the interested persons have recently filed writ 
petitions in the Supreme Court. 

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Arrest of Thieves in Delhi and Goods 
seised from them 

2193. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : Will 
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased 


to state : 

(a) the total number of thieves arrested 
in Delhi during the last six months for com- 
mitting thefts, burglaries etc ; 

(b) the total value of goods seized from 
them ; 

(c) the action taken against the persons so 
arrested ; and 

(d) whether goods so seized have since 
been handed over to their actual owners and 
if not, the reasons therefor and when the 
goods are likely to be handed over to 
them ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) 1208 persons were 
arrested in the cases of thefts and burglaries 
during the last six months i.e. from 1.2.1972 
to 31.7.1972. 

(b) Rs. 38,23,728.22 paise. 

(c) 64 persons have been discharged. 
Gases of 517 persons are under investigation 
and 627 persons have been challaned. Of the 
persons challaned, 79 have been convicted, 3 
acquitted and cases of 545 persons are pen- 
ding trial in courts. 

(d) Such property seized by the police, is 
returned under the orders of the court concer- 
ned. Almost all the recovered property has 
since been restored to its owners according to 
the orders passed by the courts concerned. 
However, in some of the cases, the property 
which is to be exhibited in the court during 
trial, has not yet been restored to the owners. 
The same will be restored to them on 
the decision of the cases or on superdari, as 
and when the oiders arc received from the 
courts concerned. 

Construction of more Jails in Delhi 

2194. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : Will 
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether there is heavy rush of prison- 
hers in the Delhi Central Jail, Tihar and that 
there are many irregularities being committed 
there ; 

(b) whether Government propose to 
construct some more jails in the Capital ; 
and 

(c) if so, where these jails are proposed 
to be located and when the land for the pur- 
pose is likely to be allotted ? 



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THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRl 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) Yes, Sir. Some irregu- 
larities have been noticed. 

(b) and (c). There is a proposal to cons- 
truct one District Jail and two sub-jails. 
However, no final decision has yet been taken 
about their location. 

Working of Mills under Government 
Control 

2195. SHRI BISHWANATH JHUN- 
JHUNWALA : Will the Minister of INDUS- 
TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE 
AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to 
state : 

(a) the total number of mills other than 
textile mills that are now functioning under 
Government control, fully or partially, for the 
last five years ; 

(b) in how many of tfiese mills the pro- 
duction could be augmented during the said 
period and what modernisation could be 
brought about by Government in these mills and 
the amount of money spent on this account ; 

(c) the nature of management improve- 
ment that was carried out in these mills ; 
and 

(d) whether Government have evolved 
any common pattern for staff policy for 
better efficiency in running these institutions 
and if so, the salient features thereof ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 

(a) to (d). The information is being collected 
and will he placed on the Table of the 
House. 

Shortage of Steel In Wagon Industry 

2196. SHRI BISHWANATH JHUN- 

JHUNWALA : 

SHRI M. M. JOSEPH : 

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state i 

(a) whether the wagon making industry 
has resented the decision of Government to 
convert part of facilities available in the 
Railway work-shops for manufacture of 
wagons ; 

(b) whether the industry has pointed 
out that the supply was hampered due to 


shortage in supply of steel and also arratic 
supply orders which are sent in piecemeal ; 
and 

(c) if so, whether Government have 
assessed the number of wagons that can be 
produced in railway workshops and stream- 
lined the process of placing orders with the 
industry to help them achieve better 
results ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) Government have not taken any deci- 
sion to convert part of facilities available in 
the railway workshops for manufacture of 
wagons. 

(b) The wagon buildeis have been 
quoting shortage of steel as one of the reasons 
for low production. 

(c) The Ministry of Railways have decid- 
ed that wagon building will be continued 
only in three workshops. The 1972-7 5 target 
for these three workshops is 2,860 units in 
terms of four wheelers. 

The wagon orders are placed with the 
wagon industry on an annual basis and as 
far as possible they are oidered in bulk, which 
will facilitate the wagon builders m their 
planning. 

U. P. Land Ceilings Bill 

2197. SHRI M. S. SIVASWAMY : Will 
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased 
to state: 

(a) whether Uttar Pradesh Government 
have referred to the Centre the question of le- 
gality of the provision of its Land Ceilings Bill 
giving retrospective effect to it in the light of 
Supreme Court ruling striking down certain 
provisions of the Kerala Land Reforms Act ; 
and 

(b) if so, the main points thereof and the 
reaction of Central Government thereto? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MI- 
NISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F. H. 
MOHSIN) : (a) The Government of Uttar 
Pradesh have sought inclusion of the U.P. Im- 
position of Ceiling on Land Holdings (Amend- 
ment) Bill, 1972, in the Ninth Schedule of the 
Constitution. 

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Review of Cases of Convicts sentenced 
for life Imprisonment, in Delhi 

2198. SH1U ISHWAR CHAUDHRY : 
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased state : 

(a) whether the Revising Board of Delhi 
Administration which reviews the cases of con- 
victs sentenced for life imprisonment with a 
view to releasing them, meets twice a year 
in the months of February and August ; 

(b) whether it has met during this year 
and if not, the reasons therefor; and 

(c) when the Board is likely to meet ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MI- 
NISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F. H. 
MOHSIN) : (a) The Revising Board meets 
twice a year but not necessarily in the months 
of February and August. 

(b) and (c) The Board has not met so far 
this year because some members of the Board, 
who were foimeily members of the Mctiopoli- 
tan Council, did not get elected to the new 
Council The Revising Boaid lias been recons- 
tituted recently and is likely to meet during 
this month. 

Development in Hill Districts of Assam 

2199. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI: Will the 
Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state 

(a) whether Government have provided 
any extra fund for the developmental activi- 
ties in the two Hill Distiicts of Assam namely, 
Mikir Hills district and North Cachar Hills 
District , 

(b) if so, the amount provided for the 
years 1970-71 and 1971-72; and 

(c) if not, will the Government consider 
the cases of these two Hill districts to provide 
special fund for development works as these 
two Districts are very backward in comparison 
to other Hill areas of the North Eastern Re- 
gion ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN 
DHARIA) : (a) In allocating Central assistance 
foi financing the Fourth Plan of Assam State 
which then included Mikir Hill District, Ca- 
char Hill District, Shillong Municipal area and 
the cantonment and also present Meghalaya 
State and the Union Territory of Mizoram, the 

development requirements and special prob- 


lems of these areas were kept in view for 
which due weightage was accorded. 

(b) and (c). The information regarding 
amounts provided in 1970-71 and 1971-72 for 
these two Hill Districts in the present Assam 
State is not available with the Government of 
India. The Government of Assam have been 
requested to furnish the required information, 
which when received will be laid on the Table 
of the House. 

Annual Plan for Assam for 1972-73 

2200. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will the 
Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state ; 

(a) the financial assistance demanded by 
the Assam Government to implement the an- 
nual plan for 1972-73; and 

(b) the decision taken by the Planning 
Commission thereon? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN 
DHARIA) : (a) and (b). For the State Plan 
1972-73, the Government of Asasm demanded 
Central assistance of Rs. 45.41 crores to imple- 
ment the Plan proposals amounting to Rs. 
50.61 crores which included certain unspecified 
outlays for areas which now form the Union 
Territory of Mizoram since 21 1 1972. On the 
basis of the assessment of State's contribution 
and the resources availability at the Centre, an 
outlay of Rs. 43 crores was approved to be 
financed as under: 

(Rs. crores) 

Central assistance 35.46 

State resources 7.54 

Total: 43 00 

The approved outlay of Rs. 43 crores in- 
cludes Rs. 2.75 crorc? for the Union Territory 
of Mizoram, 

Copper Plate Awards for Political Suffer- 
ers from Assam 

2201. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will the 
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to 
state : 

(a) the names of political sufferers from 
Assam selected for the Copper Plate awards 
on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of 
Indian Independence ; 

(b) the criteria and procedure followed 
for such selection ; 

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sufferers have been selected from Assam for 
the said Copper Plate awards although there 
are large number of eligible political sufferers 
in the State ; and 

(d) if so, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. C. PANT) : (a) to (d). Tamrapatras are to 
be presented at ceremonies held from month 
to month throughout the 25th Jayanti Year to 
all those who had undergone imprisonment for 
six months in the cause of freedom. The total 
list for Assam is therefore still being prepared 
by the Assam Government. 

The first of these ceremonies field on 
15 8.1972 was limited to only 1,000 freedom 
fighters from all over the country. The list 
of those from Assam who were invited to the 
fiist ceremony is laid on the Table of the 
House. [Placed in Library . See No. LT. 
3393/72], It is based upon selections made by 
the Assam Government, in the light of the 
criteria laid down by the Government of 
India. 

Ordinance for take over of Educational 
Institutions run by Certain Communities 
in Kerala 

2202. SHRI N. K. SANGHI : 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : 

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Kerala Government have 
approached the Centre on promulgation of an 
Ordiancc by State Government to enable it 
to take over the educational institutions run 
by certain communities in Kerala, as manage- 
ments of these institutions refuse to re open 
them, resulting in a large number of students 
being denied the educational facilities ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Central Govern- 
ment and the circumstances that led to the 
managements to close down the institutions ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) and (b). The Govern- 
ment of Kerala have forwarded for instructions 
of the President, the Kerala Private Colleges 
(Regulation of Management) Ordinance, 1972 
which seeks to empower the State Govern- 
ment to take over the management of the 
private Colleges in Kerala temporarily. The 
draft Ordinance is under consideration. 


Setting up of Special Cell for Atomic 
Minerals 

2203. SHRI RAJ DEO SINGH : Will the 
Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether Government propose to set 
up a special cell for coordinating and investi- 
gating atomic minerals in the country ; and 

(b) whether the results of primary inves- 
tigations are promising ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI): 
(a) No, Sir. The Atomic Minerals Divisions 
of the Department of Atomic Energy is res- 
ponsible for survey, prospecting and explora- 
tory development of atomic minerals which 
are required for the atomic energy pro- 
gramme. 

(b) Yes, Sir. The details are given in the 
Annual Reports ol the Department of Atomic 
Energy which are cii eulated to the Honouiable 
Members and copies of which are available 
in the Parliament Library. 

Programme for providing Self-employ- 
ment to Educated Persons in Rural Sector 

2204. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR : Will the 
Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state 
whether a new programme is proposed to be 
launched for providing self-employment to 
educated peisons in the luial secloi ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARlA) : There is no specific 
programme under consideration of Government 
for providing self-employment to educated 
persons in the rural sector. However, the 
following schemrs initiated by Government 
of India in 1971-72 arc likely to provide op- 
portunities for self-crapJoymrnt to educated 
persons in the rural sector : 

(i) Setting up of agro service centres, 

(ii) Financial assistance to entrepreneurs 
for setting up of industries. 

Zoological Survey of India 

2205. SHRI SAROJ MUKHERJEE : 
Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECH- 
NOLOGY be pleased to state : 

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the recommendations of Shri Jacob Kurian, 
Member of Indian National Commission on 
the Zoological Survey of India ; and 

(b) if not, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMNET AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMANI- 
AM) : (a) No. Sir, the Government are 
not aware of any recommendation made by 
Shri Jacob Kurian on the Zoological Survey 
of India. 

(b) Does not arise . 

Shifting of the Office of Zoological Survey 
of India from Calcutta 

220b SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE : 
Will the Minister ^f SCIENCE AND TECH- 
NOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) vvhethci the Government arc aware 
of the shifting of Offices of Zoological Survey 
of India fiom Calcutta ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons for shifting those 
ofiiccs ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRAMANIAM): 
(a) No, Sir. Theic is no proposal for the 
shifting of offices ot the Zoological Servey 
of India fiom Calcutta. 

(b) Docs not arise. 

Bihar Scheme for Unemployed 

2207. SHRI RAM SHEKHAR PRASAD 
SINGH : Will the Minister of PLANNING 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Bihar Government has pre- 
pared a special scheme for providing employ- 
ment to about 64,000 educated, skilled and 
unskilled men in the State if so, the total 
amount lequired for the purpose , 

(b) whether the Centre has agreed to give 
some financial help to the States for imple- 
mentation of the scheme ; and 

(c) whether some other States have also 
formulated such schemes ; and if so, to what 
extent Centre has agreed to give financial 
help to these States for implementation of 
the schemes ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN 
HHARIA) : (a) to fc). A statement is laid on 


the Table of the House. [Placed in Librat y. See 
No. LT. 3394/72] 

Big Powers behind Agitation against 
Simla Agieement 

2208. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDD Y: 

SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH 

MALIK : 

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government’s attention has 
been drawn to the news item which appeared 
in the ‘Tribune’ on 10th July, 1972 captioned 
'Big Powers behind agitation against Simla 
Agreement’ ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Government 
thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 

F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

• 

(b) Government have no other informa- 
tion in this regard. 

Criteria for Promotion of Class IV Staff 
as L«D.Cs. 

2209. SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZAL- 
PURKAR : Will the PRIME MINISTER be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether a number of qualified Class 
IV Employees in the Government of India arc 
waiting for their chances in the Lower Divi- 
sion Clerks grade ; and 

(b) if so 3 the number of such employees 
and the criteria Government have adopted to 
promote class IV employees as Lower Division 
Clerks in the Ministries and other offices ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and 
(b). Class III is not a promotion post for 
Class IV employees as the nature of duties 
of the two posts arc altogether different and 
as the experience in the Glass IV posts would 
not be of any value in the L.D.Cs. post. 
However, with a view to giving an opportu- 
nity to educationally qualified Class IV em- 
ployees for entry into Class III posts, a num- 
ber of concessions have been provided under 
which such Class IV employees can register 
their names with the Employment Exchange for 
Class III posts and on nominations by the 
Employment Exchange, they can be consi- 
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giving weightagc of age relaxation to the 
extent of their service in Glass IV ; they can 
also be considered for appointment in Class 

III in the offices in which they are working 
even though their names may not be amongst 
those sponsored by Employment Exchange. 
In addition, reservations have also been pro- 
vided for educationally qualified Class IV em- 
ployees to the extent of 10% of the vacancies 
in the post of Lower Division Clerks to be 
filled on the basis of a test confined to Class 

IV employees who have put in at least five 
years of service in a Class IV post and who 
are 45 years of age (50 years for Scheduled 
Castes and Scheduled Tribes). The scheme 
is not applicable to Railways. Post and Tele- 
graphs and the Indian Audit and Accounts 
Department who have their own schemes for 
appointment of their Class IV employees to 
Class III posts. 

According to the information available, 
599 Class IV employees workirg in the Minis- 
tries/Departments applied for admission to 
the Restricted Examination held in April, 
1970 for appointment against 10% reserved 
vacancies, out of whom 341 were admitted to 
the Examination and 91 of them were finally 
appointed as Lower Division Clerks. Similarly 
81 and 65 Class IV employees were appointed 
as Lower Division Clerks on ihe results of the 
Restricted Examinations held in December, 
1970 and June, 1971, respectively. Thus out 
of a total of 599 Class IV employees in the 
Ministries/Departments, who claimed eligibi- 
lity for appointment to Class III posts, a total 
of 237 have so far been appointed as Lower 
Division Clerks. Only 285 Class IV employees 
working in the Ministries/Departments have 
applied for, admission to the Restricted Exami- 
nation held in June, 1972 and it is expected 
that in the years to come, the educationally 
qualified Class IV employees would have rea- 
sonable prospects for appointment to 
Class III posts. 

Arbitration on D.A. Formula 

2210. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : 
Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether Government have conceded 
the demand of its employees that the dearness 
allowance determining formula should be 
arbitrable if differences arose between the 
parties ; and 

(b) if so, the main features thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 


MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND 
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and 
(b). The Staff Side of the National Council 
set up under the J. C. M. Scheme had request- 
ed that the formula for determining D.A. 
should be revised so as to : 

(1) reduce the time factor for determin- 
ing the average index increase from 
12 months to three months ; 

(2) reduce the points factor from 10 points 
average to 5 points average ; 

(3) calculate ihe quantum factor on the 
basis of full neutralisation of the pay 
of every single employee in all the 
categories, of Class IV and Class III 
staff ; and 

(1) extend the Dearness allowance to 
cover all employees receiving a basic 
pay up to Rs. 1,000/- per month on a 
tapering off basis. 

2. As no agreement was possible in res- 
pect of this demand, a disagreement was 
recorded at the National Council meeting held 
on the 29th and 30th May, 1970 On a point 
raised by the Staff Side about the arbitrability 
of the D. A. determining formula, Govern- 
ment have decided that the specific demand 
of the Staff Side, referred to in para 1 above, 
would be treated as arbitrable. 

Farmers Agitation in Tamil Nadu 

2211. SHRI BANAMALI PATNAIK : 

SHRI DINEN BHATTACH ARYYA : 

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Tamil Nadu Chief Minis- 
ter has written to her about the farmers* agi- 
tation and their demands ; 

(b) whether the demands of the farmers 
ran counter, to the Centre’s policy in this 
regard ; and 

(c) if so, the reaction of the Central 
Government thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F. 
H. MOHSIN) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) At a meeting of the National Develop- 
ment Council held in last May, there was 
general agreement that it was necessary to 
explore all possibilities of raising additional 

resources for the Fifth Five Year Plan. Tax 



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measures relatable to entries in List II of the 
Seventh Schedule of the Constitution are, 
however, entirely for the State Governments 
to consider. 

(c) The Government of India and the 
Planning Commission have been anxious that 
State Governments should raise additional 
resources for financing their development plans 
in the same way as the Government of India 
had been raising additional resources for the 
development of the country. Since the need 
for raising such resources had never been in 
question, misgivings, if any, regarding specific 
methods for raising such resources should be 
dispelled in a democratic way. 

Commission of Inquiry on Larger Indus- 
trial Houses of Tatas, Birlas 
and Sahu Jains 

2212. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI : 
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH- 
NOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Commission of Inquiry 
on Large Industrial Houses has been able to 
finalise any case so far ; and 

(b) if not, the probable time by which the 
concerns of Tatas, Birlas and Sahu Jains will 
be examined ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 

(a) and (b). The investigations including 
those relating to concerns of Tatas, Birlas 
and Sahu Jains, by the Commission of Inquiry 
on Large Industrial Houses are in progress. 
On the request of the Commission, the time 
for submission of its report to the Government 
has been extended for another year with 
effect from 18-2-1972. 

Distribution of Tamra Patras on tbs 
Occasion of 25th Anniversary of 
Indian Independence 

2213. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the 
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased 
to state whether ‘Tamra Patras’ and reception 
will be given on the occasion of 25th Anni- 
versary Indian Independence to leaders, parti- 
cipants and ex-convicts connected with (i) 
Gadar Party, (ii) First World War Indo- 
German Conspiracy Case, (iii) Kakori Conspi- 
racy case, (iv) Chittagong Armoury Raid case, 
(v) Labang (Darjeeling) Shooting case, (vi) 
Gommilla DM Shooting case, (vii) Interpro- 
vinciai Conspiracy cases, (viii) other conspiracy 


cases connected with their revolutionary strug- 
gle, (ix) Andaman Cellular jail prisoners, (x) 
ex-convicts who were given life imprisonments 
in connection with revolutionary activities 
and (xi) heroes of August Revolution, parti- 
cularly of .Balia, Behar, Midnapur, Balurghat 
and Sitara ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. C. PANT) : All freedom fighters who have 
undergone imprisonment in the cause of the 
freedom of the country for a period of not 
less than six months are eligible for Tamra 
Patras. State Governmcnts/Union Territory 
Administrations were asked to compile lists 
of freedom fighters on that basis. 

Promotion of Selection Grade Stenogra- 
phers to the Posts of Under Secretaries 

2214. SHRI S. M BANERJEE : Will the 
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to refer to 
the reply given* to Starred Question No. 710 
on 5th May, 1972 and state : 

(a) the number of Selection Grade Steno- 
graphers promoted to the posts of Under 
Secretary during the last three years ; 

(b) the number of Section Officers pro- 
moted to the posts of Under Secretary during 
the same period ; 

(c) whether there is only one seniority list 
for both the categories viz , Selection Grade 
Stenographers and Section Officers ; and 

(d) if not, the reason therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND 
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Nil. 
The Selection Grade of the Central Secretariat 
Stenographers* Service was introduced from 
the 1st August, 1969, when the Service was 
reorganised, and the Selection Grade Steno- 
graphers have come within the field of consi- 
deration for promotion to the Grade of Under 
Secretary only this year. Prior to 1st August 
1969, Stenographers Grade I were eligible 
for promotion as Under Secretaries through 
the Section Officers’ Grade. 

(b) 220 (including 9 officers who had 
been promoted to the Section Officers Grade 
from the erstwhile Grade I of the Central 
Secretariat Stenographers Service). 

(c) A combined seniority list of Section 
Officers of the Central Secretariat Service 
and Selection Grade Officers of the Central 



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Secretariat Stenographers Service is prepared 
in accordance with the Central Secretariat 
Service (Promotion to Grade I and Selection 
Grade) Regulations, 1964 for the purpose of 
preparing a Select List of officers approved 
for promotion as Under Secretaries. 

(d) Does not arise. 

Sales Tax on Silk Fabrics 

22 J 5. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD 
VERMA: Will the Minister of HOME 
AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Delhi Hindustani Mer- 
cantile Association has urged the withdrawal 
of the notification imposing Sales tax on Pure 
Silk febrics ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Government 
thereto ? 

THli DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) and (b). Govern- 

ment have received a representation from the 
Delhi Hindustani Mercantile Association, 
Delhi in which the Association has requested 
for the withdrawal of sales tax on pure silk 
fabrics. ‘Silk Fabrics)* was covered by the 
scheme of levy of additional excise duty in 
lieu of sales tax. With the withdrawal of 
additional excise duty on silk fabrics, the 
latter was also deleted from the list of declared 
goods. Thus States became entitled to levy 
sales tax thereon. In the meeting of the 
Regional Council for Sales Tax for the 
Northern Zone, a decision was taken to impose 
sales tax on ‘Silk Fabrics*. The imposition of 
Sales Tax in Delhi is in pursuance of this 
recommendation. Since the imposition, re- 
presentations have been received from the 
traders in Delhi against the levy. It has been 
decided to place the matter again before the 
Regional Council for consideration of the 
matter in the light of these representations. 
The next meeting is likely to be held some- 
times after September, 1972. 

Reservation of Posts for Ex-servicemen 

and Dependants of killed Personnel 

2217. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: 

SHRI P. M. MEHTA : 

Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether twenty seven and a half 
percent of the vacancies in class IV posts and 
17 £ per cent in class III posts are going to 


be reserved for ex-servicemen and dependants 
of those killed in action ; and 

(b) if so, upto what date the reservations 
will remain in force ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND 
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) 
Reservations have been provided for ex- 
Servicemen at 10% of the vacancies in each 
of the categories of Class III posts and of 
such posts in each Class III service, and 20% 
of the vacancies in each of the categories of 
Class IV posts and of such posts in Class IV 
service. Orders also provide that the per- 
centages of reservations for ex-Servicemen in 
a category of posts shall be increased or 
decreased in any one recruitment year to the 
extent to which the total number of vacancies 
reserved for ex-Servicemen, Scheduled Castes 
and Scheduled Tribes (including the carried 
forward reservations for Scheduled Castes 
and Scheduled Tribes) and for any other 
categories taken together falls short or is in 
excess, as the case may be, of 50% of the 
vacancies in that category of posts filled in 
that year. No reservations have been provided 
in Class III and Class IV posts for dependents 
of those killed in action. However, under 
the existing instructions, two members each of 
the ramifies of Defence Services personnel 
killed in action can be appointed to vacancies 
in Glass III and Class IV posts filled by direct 
recruitment without registration at the Em- 
ployment Exchange. 

(b) The orders of reservations for ex- 
Servicemen will remain in force up to 30th 
June, 1974. 

Development of a Process for manu- 
facture of Tartaric Acid from Tamarind 
Leaves by Regional Research Laboratory, 
Jorhat 

2218. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH i Will 
the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Regional Research 
Laboratory, Jorhat has developed a process 
for the manufacture of tartaric acid from 
tamarind leaves ; 

(b) whether tamarind leaves arc available 
in plenty in South India ; and 

(c) if so, whether Government are 

contemplating to exploit the tame on 



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commercial basis, and the decision taken* in 
the matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- 
MANIAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) It is reported, in some areas, there is 
a possibility to collect the leave? in reasonable 
quantity. 

(c) The National Research Development 
Corporation (NRDC) is negotiating with 
interested parties for commercial exploitation 
of the process. 

Export of Argon Gas by Indian Oxygen 

2219. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR : 
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE- 
VELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) the reasons why Indian Oxygen has 
been permitted to export Argon gas while 
there is shortage within the country ; 

(b) the name of the undertaking which is 
the largest manufacturer of Argon gas within 
the country ; and 

(c) the steps Government are taking to 
increase the production of Argon gas ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 

(a) Export of Aigon gas by Messis Indian 
Oxygen Limited was started in 1968 at a time 
when the production of the gas in the country 
was in excess of the local demand and great 
emphasis has been laid on cxpoit drive in as 
many industries as possible. Recently, on 
receipt of reports regarding shortage of 
Argon gas Messrs Indian Oxygen Limited 
have been asked to go slow on their export 
commitments. 

(b) Messrs Indian Oxygen Limited, 
Calcutta. 

(c) Besides stepping up the production of 
Argon gas at the Trombay Unit of the 
Fertilizer Corporation of India, Government 
have issued letters of intent for creation of 
additional capacity for the manufacture of 
Argon gas. Certain existing units have also 
been assisted in organising the recovery of 

Argon from their air separation plants. 


Mechanised Brick Plants set up in the 
Country 

2220. SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH i 
SHRI K. MALLANNA : 

Will the .Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE- 
VELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the mechanised brick plants 
set up in the country for manufacturing bricks 
are running in loss ; 

(b) if so, names of such plants in the 
country which are running in loss ; and 

(c) whether the production of these plants 
have also gone down ; and the steps taken or 
proposed to be taken to improve the draw 
backs of the plants ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIQDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) to (c). ‘Bricks’ is not an industry included 
in the Schedule to the Industries (Develop- 
ment and Regulation) Act, 1951 and, therefore, 
not all units report their production to the 
Government of India. However, according 
to the production figures reported, there has 
not been fall in production of building bricks 
by the mechanised process. 

A mechanised brick unit set up by the 
National Buildings Construction Corporation, 
has been incurring losses practically since 
inception in 1967-68. A number of expert 
studies were carried out for improving the 
working of the plant. A Committee set up in 
December, 1971 submitted its report in 
March, 1972, and its recommendations arc 
under examination by the Ministry of Works 
and Housing. 

Report by the Scientific and Technical 
Personnel Department of CL S. I. R. on 
Unemployed Graduates 

222 1 . SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE : 
Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether a report of the study made 
by the Scientific and Technical Personnel 
Department of the Council of Scientific and 
Industrial Research in regard to unemployed 
and under employed graduates and those 
graduates who have abandoned efforts for 
employment has since been received ; and 

(b) if so, broad outlines of the report 

and the action taken thereon f 



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THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- 
NIAM) : (a) The Division for Scientific and 
Technical Personnel of Council of Scientific 
and Industrial Research (CSIR) carried out a 
study of unemployment amongst Technical 
personnel and other graduates in the country 
on the basis of the data collected in the 1971 
Census Under employment or the number 
of graduates who had abandoned efforts for 
employment were not included in the study. 

(b) 5,79,858 persons with at least a first 
degree in Science, Agriculture, Arts or Com- 
merce or at least a diploma in Engineering, 
Technology or Medicine were estimated to be 
unemployed in April, 1971. They constitute 
19.1% or about one fifth of the estimated 
total stock in these categoiies. Out of these, 
1,58,574 persons were not looking for em- 
ployment ; majority of them (1,27,644) were 
women. Reason why they uvere not looking 
for employment is not known. 

The study revealed that among the pro- 
fessional qualification holders medical doctors 
and veterinarians have the lowest percentage 
of unemployment i.e. about 5 to 6 per cent. 
Post-Graduates in Agriculture comes next with 
about 8% of unemployment. Graduates in 
Engineering and Technology as well as in 
Agricultural Science and Post-Graduates in 
Science have a little higher rate of unemploy- 
ment ranging from 11 to 15%. 

Amongst all the categories, the highest 
unemployment is among the first graduates in 
Science i.e . about 25%. For Arts graduates 
(first degree only) it is nearly 24%. 

The Government of India is concerned 
about the unemployment amongst educated 
persons and have already taken some steps. 
An “Expert Committee on Unemployment” 
has been appointed to assess the extent of 
unemployment and to suggest remedial 
measures. A sum of Rs. 50 crores has been 
allocated in the 4th Plan for employment of 
educated unemployeds, of which, an amount 
of Rs. 20 crores has been allocated in this 
year’s budget. An amount of Rs. 27 crores 
has been earmarked by the Planning Com- 
mission for allocation to State Governments 
for formulating special employment pro- 
grammes for which the States will have to 
contribute another 27 crores. Nationalised 
Banks also render financial help to enterprising 
unemployed presons. Planning Commission 
and the State Governments arc also consider- 
ing the problems of unemployment. 


Besides these, schemes like Scientists' Pool, 
Research Fellowships, Supernumerary appoint- 
ments are in operation to help the Scientific 
and Technical Personnel, in particular. 

Survey of Unemployed Engineers 

2222. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Will 
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased 
to state: 

(a) whether Government have made a 
survey of the unemployed engineers on the 
basis of 1971 Census; and 

(b) if so, the main points thereof? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F. 
H. MOHSIN) : (a) In the main schedule 
which was canvassed on universal basis at the 
1971 Census, no question on unemployment 
was asked. 

However, along with the main schedule an 
ancillary special schedule called “Degree Hol- 
ders & Technical Personnel Cards’* was can- 
vassed by self-enumeration method among Deg- 
ree Holders & Technical Diploma or Certifi- 
cate Holders only. The coverage of this an- 
cillary schedule cannot be said to be compre- 
hensive. One of the data items of this special 
schedule related to unemployed engineers. 

(b) The main points of the data-item men- 
tioned in (a) above are : — 

(i) Number of unemployed engineers by 
sex break up with — 

(a) Degree level and above. 

(b) Diploma level, in each of the en- 
gineering subject fields viz., (i) Agri- 
cultural engineering, (ii) Architecture/ 
Town & Country Planning, (iii) Civil, 

• (iv) Electrical, (v) Elcctronic/Tclc- 
communication Radio, (vi) Mechani- 
cal, (viij Chemical, (viii) Mining, 
(ix) Metrology, (x) Auto Engineering, 
(xi) Aero Engineering, (xii) Public 
Health/Sanilary Enginecring/Produc- 
tivc/ Industrial Engineering, (xiii)Othcr 
Engineering and Technology. 

(it) Number of unemployed engineers try- 
ing for a job ; and 

(iii) Number of unemployed engineers not 
trying for a job. 

Provisional figures of unemployed engineers 
according to the al>ove characteristics are given 
in the Statement laid on the Table of the 
House. [Placed in Library . See No. LT-3395/72]. 



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Nepali Language speaking People in India 

2223. SHRI RATTANLAL BRAHMAN s 
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state the number of Nepali langua- 
ge-speaking people in India on the basis of 
1971 Census? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F. 
H. MOHSIN): The 1971 Census data on 
mother- tongue is still under compilation and 
therefore the requisite information is not avail- 
able at present. 

Memorandum submitted by M. Pb. re- 
presenting Backward Areas 

2224. SHRI K. KODANDA RAMI RE- 
DDY: Will the Minister of PLANNING be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether at the end of the last Session, 
a memorandum was submitted to the Prime Mi- 
nister by the Members of Parliament repre- 
senting chronically backward areas ; and 

(b) if so, the action taken thereon? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN 
DHARIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) The memorandum is under examina- 
tion. 

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Body of Experts on Utilization of News- 
print 

2228. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR : Will the 
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT 
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be 
pleased to state: 

(a) whether Government propose to set up 
an impartial body of experts to advise both the 
Government and the newspaper industry on 
the question of supply, demand, requirements 
and utilisation of newsprint ; and 

(b) if not, how Government piopose to 
settle the issue? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 

(a) and (b). There is already a newsprint Ad- 
visory Committee, set up by the Ministry of 
Information and Broadcasting, to advise the 
Government on question of policy relating im- 
port and allocation of news-print and printing 
machinery for newspapers and other connected 
matters. There is no proposal to set up any 
other body of experts. 

Self-Sufficiency In Crucial Sectors of 
Economy 

2229. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR : Will 
the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether Government have made any 
fresh efforts to achieve self-sufficiency in the 
crucial sectors of the Indian economy in the 
quickest possible time ; and 

(b) if so, the steps taken in that direc- 
tion ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN 
DHARIA) : (a) and (b). Special pro- 
grammes are included in the annual plans for 
promoting the objective of self-sufficiency 
through larger domestic out put and faster 
impoit substitution. The Annual Plan for 
1972-73 incorporates special programmes for 
the improvement in the output of raw-cotton, 
raw-jute and oilseeds in the held of agricul- 
tural production. The programmes for in- 
dustrial production make additional provi- 
sion for creation of capacity in aluminium 


and copper, and larger allocations for oil 
exploration and petroleum refining as also 
for better utilisation of existing capacity in 
steel and fertilisers. Provision has also been 
made for initiating work on modernisation of 
jute and cotton textile industries and removal 
of capacity constraint in other export- oriented 
industries. 

The National Committee on Science and 
Technology investigating the scope for import 
substitution by improving technology and 
productivity of mining and manufactures 
producing machinery and equipment, chemi- 
cals, non-ferrous metals, special alloys, fuels 
and minerals. An action Committee for pub- 
lic sector undertakings is engaged in formu- 
lating concrete recommendations enterprise 
by enterprise for improving capacity utilisa- 
tion. Fuither, industry wise studies are being 
undertaken both in the piivate and public 
sectors for identifying production bottlenecks 
and suggesting measures to remove them. 

Certificates of Eligibility for Appoint- 
ment to Civil Services issued to Persons 
other than Indians 

2230. SHRI S. N. MISRA : Will the 
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state ; 

(a) How many certificates of eligibility 
for appointment to the Civil Services and 
post under the Union Government have been 
issued to persons othei than the Indian 
Citizens in the last three years ; 

(b) to which countries and which na- 
tionality such persons belong ; 

(c) the considerations which weigh for 
the giant of such ceitificates of eligibility ; 
and 

(d) whether any of those persons has 
been found engaged in subversive activities 
during the Indo-Pak wai ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and 
(b). During the period from the 1st May, 
1969 to the 30th April, 1972, 31 certificates 
of eligibility for appointment to posts under 
the Government of India were issued in 
favour of persons other than Indian citizens. 
Of these, 25 were from Nepal, 4 from Pakis- 
tan, 1 from the Burma and 1 from Kenya. 

(c) Government’s policy is, as a rule, 

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civil posts under Government. However, 
exceptions have been made in the case of 
citizens of certain neighbouring countries and 
also persons of Indian origin, who have 
migrated from certain foreign countries with 
the intention of permanently settling in India. 
Before the certificates of eligibility are issued 
in their cases, the appointing authorities 
satisfy themselves that the candidates are 
suitable for appointment in all respects. 

(d) While no such specific instance has 
come to notice so far, the position is being 
verified with the concerned authorities. 

Recovery of Arms and Ammunition from 
Dacoits Surrendered Recently 

2231. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will 
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased 
to state : 

(a) the total number of arms and ammu- 
nition recovered from the dacoits who recent- 
ly sui tendered to the peace Mission in 
Madhya Pradesh ; 

(b) the number of prohibited arms among 
them ; and 

(c) the approximate cost of the arms 
and ammunition recovered fiom thrse daco- 
its ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F H MOHSIN) : (a) 271 arms and about 
18000 cartridges were recovered from the 
dacoits who have surrendered between the 
middle of April to the end of July, 1972. 

(b) and (c). The information is being 
collected and will be laid on the Table of 
the House. 

Inter State Transfers of I. A. S. and I. P. S. 

Officers 

2232. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will 
the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Indian Administrative 
Service and Indian Police Service Odficers, 
whose services .have been allocated to the 
various States and Union Territories, are not 
allowed inter-State transfers ; if so, the rea- 
sons therefor ; 

(b) whether any proposal is under consi- 
deration of Government to allow these Offi- 
cers to be transferred from one State to 

another ; and 


(c) if so, the outlines thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) to 

(c). Under the rules governing the manage- 
ment of the cadres of the Indian Administra- 
tive Service and the Indian Police Service- 
members of these two All-India Services can 
be transferred from one Cadre to another by 
the Central Government with the concurrence 
of the State Governments concerned. Ac- 
cording to the general policy of the Govern- 
ment of India, such inter-cadre transfers are 
made only in administrative/public interest 
or in exceptional circumstances on personal 
grounds. 

Issue of Licences to Agro-Industries Cor- 
porations Punjab and Haryana 

2233. SHRI *SAT PAL KAPUR: Will 
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of licences issued by the 
Central Government to the Industrial Deve- 
lopment Corporation and Agro-Industries 
Corporations of Punjab and Haryana during 
the last three years ; 

(b) the number of licences actually uti- 
lised and the number of factories set up by 
them, separately ; 

(c) the number of licences still pending 
unutilised with these Corporations ; and 

(d) whether Government propose to fix 
some time limit for early utilisation of these 
licences ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) Five including the licences issued to 
M/s. Punjab Tractors Limited, M/s. Punjab 
Breweries Limited and Haryana Dairy Deve- 
lopment Corporation. 

(b) and (c). These licences are in various 
stages of implementation as it normally takes 
2-3 years for an industry to start production. 

(d) The conditions attached to an in- 
dustrial licence usually stipulate a time-limit 
of 12 months within which an industry should 
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Issue of Licences for Setting up Indus- 
tries in Backward Areas 

2234. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will 
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of industrial licences 
issued to the different parties in India for the 
setting of industries in backward areas during 
the last three years ; 

(b) the number of industries set up so far 
as a lesult of these licences during the same 
period and the nature of industries thus set up ; 

(c) whether Government propose to fix 
some time-limit within which an industry 
should be set up after the granting of 
licence ; and 

(d) if so, the time-limit proposed ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 

(a) 89 loi Substantial Expansion, New 

Undertakings or New Articles and 63 for 
Carrying-on-Business. 

(b) Reports in respect of 34 industries 
having been set up have been received so far. 
These include metallurgical industries, boilers 
and steam generating plants, electrical 
equipment, telecommunications, transporta- 
tion, chemicals (other than fertilizers), food 
processing industries, vegetable oils and vanas- 
pali, glass and ceramics. 

(c) and (d). The conditions attached to 
an industrial licence usually stipulate a time- 
limit of 12 months within which an industry 
should be established. 

Medico-Industrial Television designed 
by the Central Scientific Instruments 
Organisation 

2235. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- 
THAM : 

SHRI VEKARIA : 

Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether a new medical-industrial 
television has been designed and developed 
by the Central %jcntific Instruments Organi- 
sation ; if so, the main features of the new 
Television ; 

(b) the cost of production of the new 
equipment ; and 


(c) how does it compare with the cost of 
the imported model ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. C. PANT) : (a) The Central Scientific 

Instruments Organisation (CSIO) has design- 
ed and developed a multi-channel display 
unit for monitoring and display of a 
variety of clinical and industrial obser- 
vations, such as electro-cardiogram, tempera- 
ture, pulse rate, respiration, blood Pressure, 
fetal heart beats etc., as also multi-channel 
display of flow, pressure, vibrations and 
turbulence etc. 

(b) and (c). The CSIO Chandigarh have 
intimated that the cost of each such unit 
would be around Rs. 5,000 and that the price 
of the equivalent imported unit would be of 
the order of Rs. 10,000 to Rs. 20,000 each. 

Newsreel Containing Pictures of Office 
of Tamil Daily’s after it was Ransacked 

2236. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- 
THAM : Will the Minister of INFORMA- 
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether the Films Division had taken 
pictures of the Office of the leading Tamil 
daily ‘Alai Oi«ii* immediately after it was 
ransacked by a group of persons on 16th 
June, 1972 , 

(b) whether the newsreel containing these 
pictures was withdrawn from cinema houses in 
Madras after it was shown only for one day, 
if so, the reasons thereof ; and 

(c) the person who ordered its with- 
drawal ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) and (c). The portion of the con- 
cerned newsreel, covering the attack on 
“Alai Osai” was withdrawn from screening in 
Tamil Nadu State, by the local representa- 
tive of the Films Division, at the instance of 
the State Government. 

Foreign Shares In Indian Telephone 
Industries 

2237. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- 
THAM : Will the Minister of COMMUNI- 
CATIONS be pleased to refer to the reply 
given to Starred Question No. 980 on 24th 



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May, 1972 regarding foreign shares in I. T. I, 
and state : 

(a) whether Government have since taken 
any decision regarding the shares held by the 
foreign companies in the Indian Telephone 
Industries Limited ; and 

(b) if so, the nature of decision taken ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
and (b). The matter is still under Govern- 
ment’s consideration. 

Letter allegedly written by Prime 
Minister to Chief Ministers of States 
about Humane Treatment to Suspected 
Nazalites 

2238. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Will 
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether the Prime Miniter has 
written a letter recently to the Chief Ministers 
of Andhra Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, Kerala, 
Orissa, Punjab and West Bengal, urging 
them to take steps so that the Suspected 
Naxalites arc given humane treatment ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of State Govern- 
ment thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) The Prime Minister 
had on the 1st May, 1972, written to the 
Chief Ministers of Andhra Pradesh, Assam, 
West Bengal, Bihar, Orissa, Punjab and 
Kerala that only imaginative and humane 
treatment of persons suspected of involve- 
ment in Naxalite activities can help to end the 
recrudescence of extremism. Certain concrete 
steps for the long term rehabilitation of these 
persons were also suggested. 

(b) In their replies, Chief Ministers of 
Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Orissa and Punjab 
have expressed their agreement with the 
approach suggested by the Prime Minister 
and have informed that steps are being taken 
accordingly. Replies from the Chief Ministers 
of the remaining three States arc awaited. 

Manufacture of Precision Tools to colla- 
boration with Mitsubishi of Japan 

2239. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : 

SHRI P. GANGADEB : 

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 


TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Mitsubishi Heavy Industries 
Limited, a Japanese Company, have signed 
a contract with an Indian Company to 
extend technical assistance in manufacturing 
and selling precision tools in India ; and 

(b) whether Government have given 
approval thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) and (b). M/s. S. R. P. Tools Ltd, 
Madras have signed a technical agreement 
with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd., 
Tokyo, Japan for the manufacture of cutting 
tools such as Hobs, Gear Shaper Cutters, 
Broaches and Shaving Cutters. The techni- 
cal collaboration agreement has been appro- 
ved by the Government. 

Development of Palamau (Bihar) 

2240. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI : 
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH- 
NOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) the action taken by the Central 
Government for industrialisation of the indus- 
trially backward District of Palamau (Bihar) ; 

(b) whether no programme of industriali- 
sation of the District has so far materialised ; 
and 

(c) if so, the reasons therefor ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN TOE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) and (b). Palamau district of Bihar is one 
of the 225 districts in the country selected by 
the Planning Commission for grant of conce- 
ssional financial assistance from financial 
institutions to attract new industries to this 
district and also to encourage expansion or 
industries if already in existence in this 
district. 

Under the centrally sponsored scheme of 
Rural Industries Projects Programme, Palamau 
district has been selected as a RIP District 
under the second series of RIP Projects for 
the Fifth Plan. Detailed guidelines for conduc- 
ting industrial potential surveys and pre- 
paration of plan for industrial development 
have been issued. These preliminary works 
are expected to be completed by the end of 
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State Government for preliminary works for 

1972-73. 

(c) Does not arise. 

Information Centre for Bihar to be Started 
in New Delhi 

2241. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI : 
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether it was decided that one 
Information Centre for Bihar will be started 
in New Delhi ; and 

(b) if so, the progress made in this 
regard ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) and (b). Some State Govern 
ments have set up Information Centres for 
themselves in Delhi. Government of India is 
not aware if Government of Bihar proposes to 
open one such. 

Plan for Development of Chhotanagpur 

2242. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI : 
Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether the Planning Commission has 
made any special plan for the development of 
Chhotanagpur ; 

(b) if so } the outlines thereof ; and 

(c) if not, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN 
DHARIA) : (a) to (c). The Planning Commi- 
ssion has not made any special Plan for the 
development of Chhotanagpur. Preparation 
of district /regional plan is primarily the respon- 
sibility of State Governments. A suggestion 
was, however, made to the Bihar Government 
that area plans should be prepared specially 
for the backward areas of Chhotanagpur and 
Santhal Parganas. The Planning Development 
Authority for the Chhotanagpur Division and 
the Santhal Parganas District specially set up 
by the State Government has decided to 
constitute a planning group for the purpose. 

Norms of Creadon of Division and Sub- 

Division in P & T Depar t ment 

2243. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI : 
Will the Minuter of COMMUNICATIONS 


be pleased to state : 

(a) whether there is any proposal under 
consideration of Government to bifurcate the 
existing Divisions and Sub-Divisions in the 
Postal, Telegraph and Traffic, Telegraph 
Engineering or RMS and create additional 
Sub-Divisions and if so, the main features 
therefor ; 

(b) whether Government are revising the 
norms of creation of sub-divisions and Divisions 
in the Posts and Telegraphs Department 
under Postal, RMS, Telegraph and Tele- 
communication Engineering arm ; 

(c) whether Government are considering 
to create separate Telegraph Engineering 
Division at Bhagalpur, Telegraph Engineering 
Sub-Division at Motihari, Additional Tele- 
phone Division under Telephone District, 
Patna and creation of separate RMS Division 
with Headquarters at Kiul or Bhagalpur ; 
and 

(d) if so, the period by which the propo- 
sals are expected to be finalised ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNI- 
CATIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
Engineering Divisions/Sub-di visions and Tele- 
graphs Traffic Divisions arc bifurcated and 
Engineering Divisions/Sub-divisions and Tra- 
ffic Divisions formed at new Headquarters if 
and when work/load demands it. The norms for 
forming new Engineering Divisions/Sub- Divi- 
sions are (i) geographical continuity (ii) Com- 
munity of interests and (iii) minimum workloads 
prescribed for each, which depend upon the 
assets to be maintained. The formation of 
new Traffic Divisions depends on staff strength 
in Telegraph Offices. 

Postal and RMS Divisions and Sub- 
Divisions arc bifurcated as and when necessary 
on the basis of certain prescribed standards. 

(b) The question of revising the standards 
for Engineering Divisions/Sub-Divisions is 
under consideration at present. This job has 
been entrusted to S. I. U. 

While the question relating to the revision 
of norms for the postal Sub-division is under 
consideration, there is no proposal for re* 
examining the norms and currently in force 
for the formation of Postal and RMS Divi- 
sions. 

(c) and (d). There are no proposals at 
present to create a new separate Telegraph 
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additional Telephone Engineering Division 
under Patna Telephone District. The question 
of opening of a Telegraph Sub-Division at 
Motihari is under consideration and is expec- 
ted to be finalised within a month. 

There is no proposal under consideration to 
create a RMS Division at Kiul or Bhagalpur. 

Bokaro Steel City and Jamshedpur 
declared Industrial Towns 

2244. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI : 
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Bokaro Steel City and 
Jamshedpur have been declared Industrial 
Towns for the purpose of construction of 
quarters on priority basis ; 

(b) whether Barauni-Begusarai area is 
also under consideration of Government for 
declaration as Industrial Towns ; 

(c) if not, the reason for differential treat- 
ment ; and 

(d) in case reply to part (b) is in affir- 
mative, the steps taken in the matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) to 
(d). Information is being collected and will 
be placed on the Table of the Sabha. 

P. and T. Service Unions Demands 

2245. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI s 
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Service Unions in the 
Posts and Telegraphs Department have 
demanded for rationalisation of duties and 
cadres in the Telecommunication Wing of the 
Posts and Telegraphs Department ; 

(b) whether any meeting has taken place 
between Government and the Service Union 
on this subject and if so, what is the outcome 
and progress in this regard ; and 

(c) what would be the time limit by 
which the Posts and Telegraphs Board would 
fiudlise discussion and decision on rationali- 
sation scheme of the service Unions ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) Yes 
Sir. 

(b) and (c). Yes Sir. The case is under 
active consideration and is likely to be fina- 
lised soon. 


Expansion of Patna Auto Telephone 
Exchange 

2246. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: 
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether project and detailed estimate 
for expansion of capacity of Patna Auto Tele- 
phone Exchanges have been sanctioned, but 
the work is not being executed since the 
equipment has not been allotted to Patna 
Telephone District against the project sanc- 
tioned ; 

(b) whether there are subscribers in the 
waiting list at Patna and Telephone connec- 
tions are not being provided due to non-avail- 
ability of telephone capacity to meet the 
demands ; 

(c) whether the District Manager, Tele- 
phones, Patna has requested for early allot- 
ment of Telephorfe equipment in order to 
meet the demands, but his request has not so 
far been acceded to ; and 

(d) in case replies to (a) to (c) are in 
affirmative, the reason therefor and the diffi- 
culty of Government in allotting equipments 
during 1972-73 and whether Government 
propose to meet the demand in the near 
future and if so, when ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) A 
project Estimate for the crossbar exchange to 
serve the area of the existing Patna Main 
exchange has been sanctioned. However, the 
detailed estimate has not yet been sanctioned 
for this work. 

(b) As on 30.6.72 there were only 77 
non-OYT subscribers in the waiting list at 
Patna. Adequate telephone capacity exists 
for meeting this demand. 

(c) The District Manager, Telephones, 
Patna has sent some proposals for allotment 
of equipment and his request U being consi- 
dered for allotment in 1973-74 manufacturing 
programme of M/s. Indian Telephone 
Industries. 

(d) The 1972-73 allotments were made 
to meet the anticipated demand as on 31.3.72 
and these have been already taken up for 
manufacture by Indian Telephones Industries. 
Adequate capacity was available in Patna to 
meet the demands anticipated on 31.3.72 and 
hence no allotment was made to Patna in 
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future may be met by the allotments to be* 
made in 1973-74 manufacturing programme 
of Indian Telephones Industries. With the 
present limited and inadequate availability of 
equipment, a waiting period of 2-3 years 
is unavoidable. 

Raids by G.B.I. on Senior Police Officer's 
House in Jaipur 

2247. SHRI M. M. JOSEPH : Will the 
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the houses of some senior 
police officers were raided in Jaipur by a 
special team of the Central Bureau of Investi- 
gation from New Delhi on 21st July, 1972 ; 

(b) if so, the outcome thereof ; and 

(c) the reasons for the same and action 
taken in this regard ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND 
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON- 
NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : 
(a) to (c). During the investigation of 
cases registered by the Central Bureau of 
Investigation against two police officers of 
Rajasthan in respect of allegations of bribery 
and acquisition of disproportionate assets, 
their residences in Jaipur were searched on 
21st July, 1972. Certain documents were 
seized as a result of the searches. The matter 
is still under investigation. 

Resentment shown by India about 
Nuclear Grouping with Israel 

2248. SHRI M. M. JOSEPH : 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : 

Will the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have studied 
the report by the United Nations associations 
of United States and the Soviet Union, 
signed in Washington on 19th July, 1972 and 
allegations regarding India's resentment on 
nuclear grouping with Israel ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of the Indian Gov- 
ernment thereto ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF* ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA 
GANDHI) s (a) The report, which is not of 


an official body has alleged that 8 non- weapon 
States, among them India and Israel, possess 
the fissionable material and technology needed 
to manufacture nuclear weapons if they decide 
to do so. 

(b) Government of India’s policy remains, 
as before, to use nucler energy only for peace* 
full purposes. 

Full-time Inspector under Working 
Journalists Act 

2249. SHRI M. M. JOSEPH : Will the 
Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- 
CASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Delhi Union of Journalists on 
20th July, 1972 demanded the appointment 
of a full-time Inspector under the Working 
Journalists Act so that the irregularities being 
committed by several newspapers in the 
capital can be put to an end ; and 

(b) if so, the main features thereof and 
the reaction of Government thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DIIARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) and (b). According to in- 

formation obtainrd from the Department of 
Labour and Employment, the Union in its letter 
dated 28.7.72 represented that in Delhi there 
were 40 small, medium and big newspaper 
establishments but no wholetime Inspector had 
been appointed to enforce the provisions of 
the Working Journalists (Conditions of Service) 
and Misc provisions. Act, 1955, and of the re- 
commendations of the Wage Boards, as accepted 
by the Government of India for working 
journalists and non-working journalists work- 
ing in such establishment. The demand of 
the Union is under consideration by the Delhi 
Administration. 

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Transfer of Postal Staff in Balasore Flood 
and Cyclone effected areas 

2251. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOHA- 
PATRA : Will the Minister of COMMUNI- 
CATIONS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether there have been transfers of 
Postal staff in Balasore flood and cyclone 
affected areas although Government policy is 
not to transfer employees at such period ; 
and 

(b) if so, the number of persons transfer- 
red ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI FI. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
Ttansfers of Postal staff in Balasore Postal 
Dn. have been made in May 1972 in the 
normal course in the interest of service or at 
their own requests. 

(b) In all, 38 officials weie transferred. 
Out of these 9 were transferred at their own 
requests, 7 wcie transferred at the same 
station and 22 were transferred in the interest 
of service to other stations within the same 
division. 

Convention of Freedom Fighters in Delhi 

2252. SHRI N K. S\NGHI : 

SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI : 

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the freedom fighters at a 
Convention held lecently in Delhi have 
demanded the creation of a uniform pension 
scheme for them and for grant of lands and 
loans for construction of houses ; and 

(b) if so, whether these requests have 
been considered by Government and if so, the 
decision taken in this regard ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) and (b). Government 


have seen the press report dated 23rd July, 
1972 about the convention of freedom fighters 
published in the Times of India of 24th July, 
1972 mentioning these points. 

Government of India have already decided 
to implement a scheme of grant of pensions to 
freedom fighters with effect from 15th August, 
1972. As regards loans and lands for construc- 
tion of houses, it is for the State Governments 
and Union Territory Administrations to 
consider these recommendations. 

Industrial Growth 

2253. SHRI N. K. SANGHI : 

SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: 

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE- 
VELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether growth of industrial produc- 
tion envisaged in the Fourth Plan could be 
achieved during 1971 and the first half of 1972 

(b) if not, the rate of growth actually 
achieved during the above period and how 
much is the shortfall ; and 

(c) the causes for the failure to achieve 
the target and the steps that are proposed to 
lift the industrial growth from its stagnation ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) No, Sir. 

(b) As against the growth rate of 8 to 
10% per annum envisaged in the Fourth Plan, 
the actual rate of growth in industrial pro- 
duction, during 1971, was 3%. 

The index of industrial production for 
first half of 1972 is not yet available. 

(c) Of the several factors responsible for 
inadequate industrial growth, the main ones 
are shortage of certain categories of steel and 
other raw materials, shortage of power and 
lack of infrastructural facilities in certain area 
and low labour productivity. Efforts are being 
made to deal with these problems. 

Use of Radiation Technology for Preserva- 
tion of Food 

2255. SHRI RAJ DEO SINGH : 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : 

Will the Ministei of ATOMIC ENERGY 
be pleased to state : 

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Atomic Energy Commission had raised the 
possibility of a large-scale use of radiation for 
the preservation of food ; and 

(b) if so, the targetted period or date of 
first experiment ? 

THF PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA 
GANDHI) : (a) and (b). Feasibility studies 
have been completed on radiation technologies 
relating to sprout inhibition and pre vention of 
spoilage in stored potatoes and onions, 
disinfestation for insect control and preven- 
tion of losses in stored wheat, and preservation 
of certain sea foods. The Department of 
Atomic Energy envisages establishment in a 
phased manner of pilot-scale irradiation 
facilities for these processes from 1973 on- 
wards. Implementation of this programme is 
awaiting clearance from the Ministry of Health 
to whom an application has already been 
made. 

Memoranda Given by opposition Parties 
of Haryana Against the Chief Minister 

2256. SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHRY : 
Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to 
refer to the reply given to Starred Question 
No. 378 on the 12th April, 1972 regarding the 
charges against the Chief Minister of Haryana 
and state : 

(a) whether the Memoranda have since 
been examined ; and 

(b) if so, the action proposed to be 
taken in the matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND 
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and 
(b). The Memoranda submitted to the 
President on the 27th October, 1971 and the 
24th February 1972, containing certain 
allegations against Shri Bansi Lai Chief Minis- 
ter of Haryana and others, are still under exa- 
mination. 

Export of Thorium Compounds 

2257. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP 
SINGH : Will the Minister of ATOMIC 
ENERGY be pleased to state : 

(a) the total amount of Thorium and 


Thorium compounds exported in the last three 
years ; 

(b) the terms of export ; and 

(c) the countries to which exports were 
made ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI); 
(a) The total quantities of Thorium compounds 
exported during the last years are as follows I 


Tears 

Quantity 

Value 


(in Kilograms) 

(in Rupees) 

1969-70 

37,263 

9,78,451 

1970-71 

35,832 

9,83,9G8 

1971-72 

12,400 

3,90,519 


(b) The terms of export differ from 
country to country. Payment terms range from 
payment against documents to 180 days* 
credit. 

(c) The exports were made to the Arab 
Republic of Egypt, the Fedeial Republic of 
Germany, Hong Kong, Iran, Japan, South 
Vietnam, Sri Lanka and the United King- 
dom. 

Benefits of Satellite Communications to 
the common man 

2258. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP 
SINGH ; Will the PRIME MINISTER be 
pleased to state whether, to bring the benefits 
of future satellite communications to the 
common man development work has started 
on the following items : 

(i) cheap solid State community Tele- 
vision receivers for the rural areas ; 

(ii) practical inexpensive antennas for the 
same ; and 

(iii) front-end converters for direction 
reception ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. C. PANT) ; (i) The Electronic Systems 
Division (ESD) of the Indian Space Research 
Organisation (ISRO) at Ahmedabad has 
developed Solid state TV receivers which will 
be used for direct reception of TV program- 
mes from the ATSF geo-stationary Communi- 



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cation Satellite expected to be located over 
the Indian Ocean in mid-1975. Parallel 
developmental activity on this aspect is being 
carried out at Electronics Corporation of 
India Ltd., (ECIL) Hyderabad a wholly 
Government owned Public Sector Undertaking 
under the Department of Atomic Energy. 
The sets to be used in Indian rural areas need 
to be rugged, with minimal maintenance and 
power requirements. These sets will be made 
by EC1I. These sets will need special 
chickenmesh antennas and front-end converters 
to receive the extremely week signals from 
the satellite and show these on the TV 

(ii) The chicken-mesh antennas needed 
for this have been developed by the Experi- 
mental Satellite Communication Earth station 
(ESCES), another Division of (ISRO), at 
Ahmedabad. 

(iii) The ESD has also developed the 
front-end converter required for direct 
reception. This is under final test. 

Fabrication of Heavy Equipment for 
Atomic Power Plant at Narora 

2259. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP 
SINGH : Will the Minister of ATOMIC 
ENERGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Atomic Energy Depart- 
ment proposes to fabricate, on site, the heavy 
equipment required for the atomic plant at 
Narora ; or these are to be transported to the 
site ; and 

(b) whether the strengthening and widen- 
ing of the necessary bridges and culverts and 
has started so that there may not be any 
bottlenecks in the transport of heavy equip- 
ment to Narora ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA 
GANDHI) : (a) It is proposed that certain 
pieces of equipment will be partially fabrica- 
ted in shops and then finally completed at 
site. Certain equipment like the turbine 
generator will be fabricated at manufacturers* 
workshops and then moved to site. 

(b) Strengthening and widening of 
bridges and culverts will be taken up at the 
appropriate time. 


Marine Propulsion Reactor 

2260. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP 
SINGH : Will the Minister of ATMOMIC 
ENERGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether a Marine Propulsion Reactor 
has been designed ; and 

(b) if so, the main features thereof ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE ( SHRIMATI INDIRA 
GANDHI) : (a) and (b). A marine propul- 
sion reactor has not been designed. However, 
a project report has been prepared outlining 
the development work involved in nuclear 
propulsion for marine application. 

Report of the Science Plan Committee 
on National Science Policy 

2261. SHRIMATI SAVITRI SHYAM : 

DR. RANEN SEN : 

Will the Ministei of SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether attention of the Government 
has been drawn to a news-item in the Indian 
Express dated the 24th July, 1972 that the 
Science Plan Committee set up by the Govern- 
ment has submitted its report to the Govern- 
ment ; if so, the recommendations made by 
the Committee ; 

(b) the time Government will take to 
implement those recommendations ; and 

(c) the estimated expenditure to be in- 
curred on the plan and the extent to which 
the output in the country will be increased ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- 
NIAM) : (a) and (b). The Government has 
seen the news-item in the Indian Express 
dated the 24th July, 1972 under the caption 
“SCIENCE PLAN GETS FINAL 
TOUCHES**. The National Committee on 
Science and Technology is currently engaged 
in the formulation of a Science and Techno- 
logy Plan. To cover the various sectors of 
S & T, the NCST has constituted 22 Panels. 
The Science and Technology Plan will be 
based on a detailed assessment of the existing 
knowledge and competence in each of the 
above sectors and the potential for develop- 



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mcnt with reference to our socio-economic 
needs. The draft of the Plan is expected to 
be ready by the end of April, 1973. 

(c) It is too early to make any assessment 
at this stage. 

Inadequate Attention being Paid by In- 
dustrial Units in the Private Sector to 
Research and Development 

2262. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY: 
Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether well-organised industrial units 
in the private sector pay very little attention 
to the problem of research and development ; 
and 

(b) if so, whether Government have taken 
any steps to make the industry research 
conscious ? 

r 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- 
NlAM) : (a) Generally, industrial units in 
private sector have made inadequate invest- 
ment in research and development. 

(b) A Committee under the Chairmanship 
of Dr. Y. Nayudamma, Director-General, 
CSIR, has been set up to go into the question 
of difficulties experienced by the private 
industrial firms in the execution and com- 
mercialisation of Research and Development. 
The recommendations of the Committee are 
awaited. 

Financial Assistance to Scientific Research 
Institute Operating in Private Sector 

2263. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY s 
Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) how many scientific research Institutes 
Are now operating in the private sector ; 

(b) whether Government are giving finan- 
cial assistance to these Institutes, if so, the 
mode of assistance given to them ; and 

(c) whether Government have taken care 
to see that these Institutes are properly 
administered and the scientific programmes 
undertaken by them are effectively imple- 
mented ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- 


NIAM) : (a) There are 17 private research 
institutions. 

(b) The Government is giving substantial 
grants-in-aid to the Institutes for recurring as 
well as non-recurring expenditure. 

(c) These institutes are registered under 
the registration of Societies Act and are 
administered by a Governing Council on 
which representative of the Ministry or 
Government departments who piovide funds 
are represented. The plan programme of 
these institutes is generally scrutinised by the 
Ministry or departments concerned and also 
by Planning Commission. A watch is also 
kept on the implementation of the Plan 
Scheme both by concerned departments and 
Planning Commission. 

Film and TV Institute Scholarships 

2264. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN : 
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) the State* wise break-up of 17 scholar- 
ships awarded during 1971-72 by the Film 
and Television Institute of India ; and 

(b) the salient features of scholarships 
awarded by different State Governments and 
the Union Territories to the students of the 
Institute ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) The State-wise break-up is as 


follows : 

Andhra Pradesh . . 1 

Bihar . . 2 

Jammu & Kashmir . . 1 

Maharashtra . . 5 

Mysore . . 2 

Orissa . . 1 

Punjab . . 1 

Rajasthan . . 2 

Uttar Pradesh . . 2 

Total 17 


(b) A statement is laid on the Table of 
the House. [Placed in Library, See No. LT* 
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F. F. G. Loan 

2265. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN : 
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) the details of 43 applications received 
by the Film Finance Corporation of India 
during the period 1st April to 31st Decem- 
ber, 1971 which are pending sanction of loans 
to the extent of Rs. 93.74 lakhs ; and 

(b) the details of seven applicants who 
have been sanctioned Rs. 10.07 lakhs as loan ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) and (b). Two statements 

containing the requisite information are 
laid on the Table of the House. [ Placed in 
Library. See No. LT-3398/72]. 

Views of State Governments etc. on Film 
Censorship Enquiry Committee 

2266. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN : 
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING be pleased to state the 
broad outlines of views of State Governments 
and Union Teiritorics and different sections 
of the film industry on the principal recom- 
mendations of the Enquiry Committee on 
film censorship ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : A statement is laid on the Table 
of the House. [ Placed in Library. See 
No. LT- 3 399/72]. 

Production of Essential Consumer Goods 
in Private Sectors 

2267. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISH- 
RA : Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state the 
proportion of essential consumer goods in 
the total production of private corporate sector 
since the end of the Third Five Year Plan ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
Separate production figures for the private 
corporate sector ' and unincorporated enter- 
prises are not available. The statement giving 
the production of 17 broad groups of essential 
consumer goods listed under the Essential 
Commodities Act, for the years 1966 to 1971 


(calendar years) as per returns submitted by 
units borne on the registers of the Directorate 
General of Technical Development, and other 
sponsoring authorities (like the Textile Commis- 
sioner and the Director of Sugar and Vanas- 
pati), is laid on the Table of the House. 
[Placed in Library. See No. LT-3400/72]. * 

Furnishing of Newspapers* Annual 
Statements 

2268. SHRI T. S. LAKSHMANAN : Will 
the Minister of INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) the number out of the 4961 defaulting 
newspapers in respect of submission of Annaul 
Statements, which are either non-existent or 
irregular ; and 

(b) consequences being faced by 803 news- 
papers and periodicals which have been 
removed from the record as publishers, on 
their failure to fiynish Annual Statements for 
two consecutive years ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) The information is being col- 
lected and will be laid on the Table of the 
House. 

(b) A newspapei not borne on the records 
of the Registrar of Newspapers for India is 
not allocated any newsprint. It ceases to enjoy 
postal concession and it is not entitled to be 
considered by the Directorate of Advertising 
and Visual Publicity for Central Government 
advertisements. 

Award of “Tamra Patras*’ and Reception 
to Freedom Fighters on the Occasion of 
25th Anniversary of Indian Independence 

2269. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the 
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether officers and men of Indian 
National Army and the participants of the 
1945-46 revolt in Royal Indian NAVY will 
be given “Tamra Patras” and reception on 
the occasion of 25th Anniversary of Indian 
Independence ; 

(b) whether families of Mankumar Bosu 
Thakur and 27 other officers and men of 
R. I. N. who were hanged or shot at Madras 
in 1943 will be given the same honour ; and 

(c) whether posthumous honour will be 
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or shot by British Government and who sacri- 
fied their lives in Azad Hind Fauj liberation 
offensive ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. C. PANT) : (a) All freedom fighters who 
have undergone imprisonment in the cause 
of freedom of the country for a period of 
not less than six months are eligible for Tamra 
Patras which will be distributed at several 
ceremonies to be held throughout the anniver- 
sary year. The men of the Indian National 
Army, and the Royal Indian Navy would also 
be eligible if they fulfill the criteria laid down. 

(b) and (c). The question of conferring 
posthumous honour on freedom fighters/mar- 
tyrs has not yet been considered. 

Survey of Natural Resources 

2270. SHRI P. M. MEHTA 

SHRI PURUSHOTTAM- 
KAKODKAR : 

Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Planning Ministry is consider- 
ing to have comprehensive survey of the coun- 
try’s natural resources ; 

(b) whether any scheme in regard to the 
survey for natural resources has been prepared 
and if so, when the survey will be conducted ; 
and 

(c) whether Government feel that the 
degree of development of a country depends 
on its capacity to make best possible use of 
natural resources at its disposal ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM): 

(a) and (b). The Planning Commission in Sep- 
tember last year appointed 12 task forces to re- 
commend measures for the intensification of 
survey activities of various natural resources in 
the country. These task forces were in the 
following specific fields : 

1. Coal & Lignite. 

2. Atomic Energy Minerals. 

3. Non-Ferrous Group of Minerals, 

4. Ferrous Group of Minerals. 

5. Industrial (Non-metallic) Minerals. 

6. Marine Survey for Living Resources. 


7. Marine Survey for Non-living resources. 

8. Groundwater Resources. 

9. Surface Water Resources. 

10. Aerial Survey. 

11. Land & Soil Resources. 

12. Forest Resources. 

The task forces have submitted their reports 
recently and the Core Committee of the Plann- 
ing Commission is considering how these reco- 
mmendations could be implemented. 

(c) The Government agrees with the Hon'- 
ble Member that country’s development de- 
pends to a great extent on best possible exploi- 
tation of its natural resources. The setting up 
of these task forces is one of the steps taken 
up in this direction. 

Prosecution of Public Servants and Private 
Persons by C. B. I. 

2271. SHRI P. M. MEHTA 
SHRI P. GANGADEB : 

Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether the Central Bureau of Investi- 
gation prosecuted 22 public servants and 39 
private persons during May, 1972 ; 

(b) whether Central Bureau of Investiga- 
tion also secured convictions against some per- 
sons and imposed fines on the persons or the 
firms convicted ; and 

(c) if so, the particulars thereof? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The 
Central Bureau of Investigation prosecuted 23 
public servants and 37 private persons during 
May, 1972. 

(b) and (c). 17 public servants (1 gazetted 
officer and 16 non-gazetted officers) and 10 pri- 
vate persons (including 1 firm) were convicted 
by the courts and awarded sentences of vary- 
ing terms of imprisonment/fine in May, 1972. 
The convictions were in respect of allegations 
relating to embezzlement, forgery, bribery, 
misappropriation, cheating, criminal breach of 
trust, misconduct and violation of the provi« 
sioni of Essential Commodities Act, Opium 
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Views expressed by U. S. experts on 
Indian Nuclear reactors 

2272. SHRI K. BALADHANDAYU- 

THAM : 

SHRI K. MALLANNA : 

Will the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Governments attention has 
been drawn to the views expressed, recently, 
by some U, S. experts that the Indian nuclear 
reactors were not subjected to international 
safeguard checks by the International Atomic 
Energy Agency and hence pose a threat to 
non-proliferation of nuclear weapons , and 

(b) if so, the Governments reaction there- 
to ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA 
GANDHI) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) Government do not agree with the 
views. 

People’s Participation in Implementation 
of Plan Programme 

2273. SHRI K. BALADHANDAYU- 
TIIAM : Will the Minister of PLANNING 
be pleased to state 

(a) whether hitherto the emphasis was on 
people’s participation in implementation of 
the plan programmes with little or no atten- 
tion paid to the problem of peoples partici- 
pation in the formulation of the plan itself ; 
and 

(b) if so, whether any steps are being 
taken to ensure active participation of the 
people in the formulation of plan policies ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) From the incep- 
tion of planned development, the Planning 
Commission has laid considerable stress on 
popular understanding of and participation 
in the implementation of various schemes and 
programmes. Also in the past there have been 
consultations with representative bodies prior 
to formulation of Plan policies and program- 
mes. Some further steps are being taken to 
broaden this process of popular participation 
in the formulation of Plant. 


(b) The introduction of multi-level plan- 
ning throughout the country, as proposed in 
the document on the “Approach to the Fifth 
Five Year Plan”, is expected to ensure in- 
creased participation of people in the formu- 
lation and implementation of Plan policies 
and programmes. In the meantime, care has 
been taken to associate expert, popular and 
non-official opinion with the deliberations of 
various Steering Groups, task forces and wor- 
king groups which have been set up to help 
formulate Fifth Plan policies and schemes. 

Arrears of Telephone Bills 

2274. SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA : 

SHRIHUKUM CHANDKACH- 
WAI : 

Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- 
TIONS be pleased to state the amount of 
arrears of Telephone Bills, year- wise since 
1970 ? • 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : The 
amount of arrears of Telephone bills year- 
wise since 1970 are as given below : 



Arrears on 

Amount ( Rs . in 

lakhs) 

(i) 

1.4.70 in respect 
of bills issued 
upto 31.12.69 

Rs. 612.43 

(«i) 

1.4.71 in respect 
of bills issued 
upto 31.12.70 

Rs. 555.64 

(iii) 

1.4.72 in respect 
of bills issued 
upto 31.12.71 

Rs. 605.59 

Cheating In Weights and Measures 


2275. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : 
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH- 
NOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether cheating in weights and 
measures in the country is on the increase ; 

(b) if so, the steps taken by Government 
in eradicating such cheating ; 

(c) whether weights and measures of the 
Departments of Posts and Telegraph and Rail- 
ways have ever been checked and stamped, 
if not, the reasons therefor ; and 

(d) the steps taken by Government to 
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THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 

(a) and (b). Government are aware that 
cheating in weights and measures exists in 
the country but there is no evidence to prove 
that it is on the increase. Enforcement of 
weights and measures being a State subject, 
any case brought to the notice of Government 
is taken up with the State Government con- 
cerned for suitable remedial action. 

(c) The weights and measures used by 
Railways were being checked in a few States 
but not those of the Posts and Telegraphs as 
the transactions of the Posts and Telegraphs 
were for a long time considered as non-com- 
mercial transactions. 

(d) The weight and measures used by 
the Departments of Posts and Telegraphs will 
be subjected to checking and stamping in the 
near future, while those used by the Rail- 
ways are already being checked in some 
States and will be checked in the near future 
in the remaining States. 

Kidnapping of a Boy from his House in 
Paharganj, New Delhi 

227G. SHRI G. K. CHANDRAPPAN : 
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether one boy Rajendra, was 
kidnapped on the 11th June, 1972 from his 
house Paharganj, New Delhi ; 

(b) whether the boy’s father lodged a 
complaint alleging the hand of Paharganj 
Police Sub-Inspector in this case ; 

(c) whether the Delhi Youth Federation 
also sent a memorandum to the Home Minis- 
ter on this subject ; and 

(d) if so, the steps taken so far to trace 
the boy and to punish the culprit and prevent 
further mischief ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) No report was recei- 
ved at Police Station Paharganj, regarding 
kidnapping of Rajendra on 11th June, 1972. 
However, on 9th June, 1972 Shri Manohar 
Lai Verma reported the alleged kidnapping 
of his son Shri Rajendra Kumar at Police 
Station Paharganj. 

(b) No allegation of complicity of a Sub- 
Inspector of Paharganj Police wa» made. 


However, such an allegation was made against 
a Sub -Inspector of Police Station, Hauz Qazi. 

(c) Yes. 

(d) The boy Shri Rajendra Kumar came 
back to his house on 12th or 13th June, 1972 
and is present there. No corroborative evi- 
dence to support the allegation of kidnapping 
of Shri Rajendra Kumar has come on Police 
record so far. 

Peoples living below Poverty Line 

2277. SHRI G. K. CHANDRAPPAN 2 
Will the Ministei of PLANNING be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether 40 per cent of our popula- 
tion is living below poverty line ; and 

(b) if so, the special measures Govern- 
ment intend to take for improving their 
lot ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) According to availa- 
ble estimates, private consumption of Rs. 20 
per capita per mensem at 1960-61 prices would 
be neeeded to assure a reasonable minimum 
level of living. At present over 220 million 
or 40 per cent of the people are estimated to 
be living below this level. 

(b) A major objective of the remaining 
period of Fourth Plan and Fifth Plan would 
be to improve the lot of the people below the 
poverty line. This is sought to be achieved 
by— 

(i) Provision of employment opportuni- 
ties on as large and wide a scale as possible ; 

(ii) stabilisation of prices of essential goods 
such as foodgrains, edible oils, standard cloth, 
sugar and cooking fuels and other necessary 
consumers articles ; 

(iii) pursuance of a production, distribu- 
tion and investment policy that will make for 
increased availabilities of items of essential 
consumption ; 

(iv) determined restraint on inessential 
consumption of the relatively well-to-do 
classes ; and 

(v) provision of social consumption in the 
form of education, health, nutrition, drinking 
water, housing, etc., at least up to a minimum 
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Increase In Price of Trucks 

2278. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : 
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH- 
NOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether truck prices havg risen by 
12 to 15 per cent in the last 14 months ; 

(b) whether TELCO which controls as 
much as 70 per cent of the total market for 
trucks has revised the prices six times between 
April, 1971 and April 15, 1972 ; 

(c) whether the price revisions are justi- 
fied ; and 

(d) if not, whether any steps are being 
contemplated to control the prices of trucks ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 

(a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) M/s. TELCO have revised the prices 
of their vehicles six times between April, 1971 
and 15th April, 1972. 

(c) and (d). This is a disturbing trend. 
Government are keeping a close watch over 
the situation to |udge what action is neces- 
sary. 

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Prices of Industrial and Chemical Salts 

2280. SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH : 
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH- 
NOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether there is any proposal under 
the consideration of Government to equalise 
the price of industiial and Chemical salts 
through out the country ; 

(b) if not, the reasons therefor ; and 

(c) the prices of Industrial and chemical 
salts in all the States as on 30th June, 1972 ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 

(a) The general question of equalisation of 
prices of salt throughout the countiy is under 
consideration of the Government. 

(b) Does not feiise. 

(c) Information is being collected and 
will be placed on the Tabic of the House. 

Export of Technical knowhow by H.M.T. 
to U.K. 

2281. SHRI P. K. DEO : 

SHRI VEKARIA : 

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Hindustan Machine 
Tools, Limited has recently signed an agree- 



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ment with some British Companies for export 
of technical know-how ; 

(b) if so, the main features thereof ; 

(c) whether the attention of Government 
in this regard has been drawn to a report in 
the ‘Economic Times’ of the 10th July, 1972 
captioned “H M.T. export know-how to 
U.K.”; and 

(d) the amount of foreign exchange 
likely to be earned as a result of the agree- 
ment ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR 
PRASAD) : (a), (b) and (d). Hindustan 
Machine Tools have negotiated an agreement 
with Messrs Wickman Machine and Tool 
Sales Ltd., U.K., for licensing manufacture 
of H.M.T. Minichucker. The terms of the 
agreement being in the nathre of a commer- 
cial transaction, it is considered inappiopriate 
to disclose the details thereof. 

(c) Yes, Sir. 

Introduction of changes in the Method of 
Planning 

22 82. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : Will 
the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether Government propose to intro- 
duce certain changes in the method of plan- 
ning in the country ; and 

(b) if so, the proposed changes ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) The main changes arc : 

(i) greater emphasis on multi-level plan- 
ing, regional planning, area/district 
planning and a welcome decentralisa- 
tion of the decision making process 
within a borad central framework of 
Plan formulation and control. 

(li) building up a suitable information and 
monitoring system for continuous 
evaluation and reporting of pi ogress 
for better implementation of projects 
and programmes in physical and 
financial terms. 

fill) advance preparation of shelf of pro- 
jects and their ex-ante appraisal ; 


(iv) integration of Science and Technology 
with the process of planning ; and 

(v) people’s active and direct participa- 
tions and involvement in Plan formu- 
lation and implementation. 

Proposal^ for Expansion and Reorganisa- 
tion of Industrial Testing Research 
Laboratory 

2283. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : Will 
the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to 
slate : 

(a) whether Government have received 
any fresh proposal to expand and reorganise 
the Industrial Testing Research Laboratory 
from the Government of Kerala ; 

(b) if so, the main features of the propo- 
sal ; and 

(c) the decision taken thereon ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) to (c). No, Sir. 
Recently no fresh proposal has been received. 
On the earlier proposal of the Kerala Govern- 
ment received in 1971, seeking UNDP assis- 
tance to the extent of $ 450,000 (or Rs.32.75 
lakhs approximately) for expansion of their 
Industrial Testing and Research Laboratory, 
Trivandrum, the Planning Commission advised 
the State Government to reduce the quantum 
of assistance from $450,000 (or Rs. 32.75 
lakhs) to $100,000 (or Rs. 7 28 lakhs). 

Construction of New Building for S. S. 

I.S.I. at Trichur (Kerala) 

2284. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : Will 
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the proposed construction of 
a new building for the Small Scale Indus- 
tries Service Institute at Trichur in Kerala 
has started ; 

(b) if so, the approximate time by which 
it is expected to be finished; and 

(c) if not, the reasons for delay ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR 
PRASAD) : (a) and (b). The construction 
of the building has not yet started. 

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acquired for the purpose, went up in appeal 
againt the amount of compensation granted 
to him ; first to the sub-Judge of Trichur and 
later to the High Court. The enhanced com- 
pensation awarded by the High Court has 
been paid to the owner. The C.P.W.D. have 
prepared the plans which are now under 
scrutiny. The work is likely to be taken up 
shortly. 

Earning of Foreign Exchange 

2285. SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZAL- 
PURKAR s Will the Minister of PLANNING 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have selected 
certain items for earning foreign exchange in 
the remaining period of the current plan to 
meet the foreign exchange needs ; and 

(b) if so, what aie those ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) and (b). Besides, 
improvement in earnings of foreign exchange 
by Shipping and Tourism and traditional 
expoit earning commodities, increases in 
export earnings are mainly expected from 
items like engineering goods, chemical and 
allied Products, geins and jewellery, fish and 
fish preparations, iron ore, handicrafts and 
ready-made garments. 

Appointment of Advisory Body of Experts 
for Standardisation of equipment for fer- 
tilizer units 

2286. SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZAL- 
PURKAR : Whl the Minister of INDUS- 
TRIAL DEVELOPMEET AND SCIENCE 
AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have appointed 
any Advisory Body of Experts to suggest 
standardisation of major items of equipment 
required in the fertilizer units ; and 

(b) if so, the consitution and terms of 
icference thereof ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) and (b). In order to study and assess the 
progiess of development of manufacture of 
various types of Chemical Machinery in the 
country and to suggest standardised capacities 
for various types of chemical plants, Govern- 
ment of India constituted in August, 1969 an 


Expert Committee known as “Expert Commi- 
ttee for Development of Chemical Machinery 
Industries". 

The terms of reference and constitution 
of the Committee are as under : — 

Terms of Reference : 

(i) to determine and suggest standardised 
capacity for various chemical plants, 
wherever, possible ; 

(ii) to estimate the total cost of equipment 
and machinery comprising standard- 
ised plants ; 

(iii) to indicate the break-up of the requ- 
ired equipment and machinery into 
indigenous/imported categories ; and 

(iv) to suggest which of the items of 
equipment falling under the imported 
category should be taken up for urgent 
indigenous development. 

Constitution : 

1. Director General of Technical Deve- 
lopment — Chairman. 

2. Shri M. M. Vadi, S. I. A. (DGTD) — 
Member and Alternate Chairman. 

3. Dr. A. Seetharamiah, S.I.A. (DGTD) 
— Member 

4. Shri S. K. Sinha, Senior Industrial 
Adviser (DGTD) — Member 

5. Shri V. N. Kasturirangan, Ministry of 
Petroleum and Chemicals — Member 

6. Dr. R.K. Ghosh, F.G.I. Ltd., Member. 
Shri H.H. Jethanandani, FCI Ltd., — 
Alternate Member. 

7. Dr. B.V. Bhoota, Chairman Chemical 
Plant and Machinery Association of 
India — Member. 

8. Dr. M. D. Parekh, Managing Director 
M/s National Rayon Company Ltd., — 
Member. 

9. Shri Ranvir M. Khatau, Director, 
Associated Cement Companies Ltd. — 
Member. 

10. Shri J. P. Mukerjee, Chief Engineer, 
M/s. Walchand Nagar Industiies — 
Member. 

11. Shri K. P. Aiyappan Nayar, Sales 
Manager (Plants) FACT Engineering 
and Design Organisation — Member. 

12. Shri S. C. Banerjee, I. A. (DGTD) — 
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Availability of Resources for making Ad- 
justments in the Five year Plan to meet 
the requirements 

2287. SHRI S. C SAMANTA : Will the 
Mj'nstcr of PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) the steps being taken by him to make 
adjustments in the Five Year Plan so that it 
niu Ij» the requirements of the people in 
general ; 

(b) by what time the planning from the 
village and district level is likely to take 
shape, and efforts being made by him to this 
end ; 

(c) whether the financial targets already 
fixed are likely to be enhanced for this pur- 
pose ; and 

(d) if so, the sources from which these 

resources will be made available ? 

% 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DIIARIA) : (a) The Five Year 
Plans are formulated after taking into account 
the requirements of the people in general. 
The question of making adjustments in the 
Five Year Plan for this purpose does not, 
therefore, arise. However, m addition to the 
Plan programmes, some special employment 
programmes have been recently introduced 
to alleviate the prevailing condition of un- 
employment in the country. They arc in 
addition to Crash Scheme for Rural Employ- 
ment which will benefit the unemployed and 
underemployed in rural areas. 

(b) No time limit has been laid down 
for completion of the work relating to pre- 
paration of integrated district plans by State 
Governments. The Planning Commission has 
issued guidelines to State Governments for 
formulation of distnct plans and is rendering 
all possible assistance with a view to expe- 
diting preparation of the same. Planning at 
village level is not contemplated. 

(c) and (d) The question of enhancing 
of financial targets and of finding additional 
resources on that account, does v not arise, 
since adjustments in the Five Year Plan refer- 
red to in part (a) of the question are not 
contemplated. The funds for the special 
employment oriented schemes mentioned in 

(a) above would be raised and made availa- 
ble by the Centre, and the State Govern- 
ments. 


Pilot Plant Project for Conversion of 
High-Sulphur Low-Ash Assam Coal to 
Synthetic Petroleum 

2288. SHRI S. G. SAMANTA : Will 
the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have sanctioned 
any pilot plant project for conversion of 
high-sulphur low-ash Assam coal into syn- 
thetic petroleum ; and 

(b) whether Indian Oil and Natural 
Gas Commission have refused to collaborate 
with the National Committee on Science 
and Technology pilot plant project ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- 
NIAM) : (a) The GSIR have proposed the 
setting up of the pilot plant at the Central 
Fuel Research Institute at Jealgora to test 
the feasibility of coal to oil conversion techno- 
logy on which they have already been con- 
ducting researches for sometime. 

(b) No Sir. GSIR wish to work closely 
in this project with the User Ministiy which 
would eventually have to exploit this techno- 
logy. They have, therefore, referred to the 
Ministry of Pc troleum and Chemicals to parti- 
cipate financially in the setting up of the Pilot 
Plant. That Ministry arc considering the 
proposal. This matter is still at the level of 
exchanges between CSIR and the Ministry of 
Petroleum and Chemicals and no final deci- 
sion has been taken. 

Nuclear Agro-Induatrial Complex in U. P. 

2289 SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will 
the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be plea- 
sed to state : 

(a) whether Atomic Energy Commission 
intends to establish a nuclear agro-industrial 
Complex in Uttar Pradesh ; 

(b) the results of ground water survey 
conducted by the Atomic Energy Commission 
in western Uttar Pradesh ; arid 

(c) whether Atomic Energy Commission 
has shelved the project to produce nuclear 
power and dc-salinized water to feed propo- 
sed Mithapur fcrtilizci plant ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
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ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SH RIM ATI INDIRA 

GANDHI) : (a) to (c). Government ha* 
decided to set up an atomic power station 
at Narora in Western Uttar Pradesh. The 
station will consist of two units of 235 MWe 
each. 

A working group appointed by the Ato- 
mic Energy Commission to evaluate the con- 
cept of nuclcar-powered agro-industrial com- 
plexes has submitted its report. Among the 
projects studied by the working group are 
those relating to the eastablishment of such 
complexes in the Gangetic plain as well as in 
the Kutch-Saurashtra region. Further- 
detailed studies on these projects are in pro- 
gress. 

In connection with the feasibility studies 
relating to Western Uttar Pradesh, it has 
been decided to investigate the availability 
and scientific exploitation of undcrgiound 
water from this area. This study has not yet 
been completed. 

Machinery for Satisfactory Planning and 
Coordination of Plan Publicity 

2290. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : WU1 the 
Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state : 

(a) the machinery evolved for satisfactory 
planning and coordination of Plan Pub- 
licity ; and 

(b) the publicity media aims of the 5th 
Plan ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) Plan Publicity 
Schemes are planned and implemented by the 
media units of the Ministry of Information 
and Broadcasting at the Centre and the Pub- 
licity Departments in the States. There are a 
few scheme which are part of the programmes 
of other developmental Ministries such as 
Health and Family Planning. They have the 
benefit of the Planning Commission's advice 
in the process of planning and coordinated 
implementation. 

(b) The publicity Schemes for the Fifth 
Plan are being formulated by the mass 
( ornmijnication media units of the Informa- 
bon and Broadcasting Ministry at the Centre 
and the publicity Departments in States. 


Tald over of whole sale trade of consu- 
mer Goode 

2291. SHRI RAM PRAKASH : 

SHRI N. K. SANGHI : 

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether there is any proposal to take 
over the wholesale trade in essential consu- 
mer goods ; and 

(b) if so, the advantages from such take- 
over and the main features of the proposal ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) and (b). Government have under consi- 
deration a scheme for maintaining price 
stability and ensuring availability of essential 
commodities at reasonable prices. This 
scheme includes, inter-alia, recommendations 
about the role of the public sector in the 
wholesale trade in certain essential consumer 
goods. 

Setting up of Atomic Power Station in 
the Western, Northern and Southern 
Regions 

2292. SHRI VEKARIA : 

SHRI ARVIND NETAM : 

Will the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether any site has been selected 
by the Site Selection Committee for setting 
up nuclear power station in Western, North- 
ern and Southern regions ; and 

(b) if so, their locations and when the 
work is likely to be started ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATOIN 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA 
GANDHI) : (a) and (b). The Site Selec- 
tion Committee has so far made recommenda- 
tions only in regard to the Northern Region. 
The survey in regard to the Western and 
Southern Regions is still in progress. The 
Atomic Power Station in the Northern Region 
will be located at Narora in Western Uttar 
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investigations at the site and collection of 
data for the design of the Power Station has 
been taken up. 

Change In the name of Mysore to 
Karnataka 

2293. SHRI B. V. NAIK: Will the 
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether any proposals have been 
received from Government of Mysore to 
change the name of State from Mysore to 
Karnataka ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Government in 
this regard ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) and (b). A proposal to 
this effect has been received only on the 11th 
August, 1972 and it is yet to be considered 
by the Government. 

Survey of Radioactive Minerals 

2294. SHRI B V. NAIK : Will the 
Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether a survey of radioactive 
minerals was undertaken all along the coastal 
regions of India ; 

(b) if so, the findings of this survey ; and 

(c) whether there is any other source 
than monazite sands ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI) : 
(a) Yes, Sir. Surveys have been conducted 
by the Atomic Minerals Division of the 
Department of Atomic Energy for radioactive 
minerals along the Indian Sea Board as a 
part of a continuing programme of investiga- 
tions for such minerals. 

(b) Deposits of monazite associated with 
other constituent minerals of beach sands 
such as ilmenite, rutile, zircon sillimanite, 
kyanite, etc. have been located in noteworthy 
concentrations in certain parts of the coastal 
tract. 


(c) No, Sir. Along the Indian Sea board 
there is no known source of radio-active 
minerals other than monazite sands. 

Bhagavantam Committee’s Report on 
Survey of India 

2295. DR. RANEN SEN: Will the 
Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Bhagavantam Committee has 
submitted its report on Survey of India, if so, 
the salient features of the report ; and 

(b) whether any decisions have been taken 
by the Government on the report ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMANI- 
AM) i (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. A summary of 
the recommendations is laid on the Table of the 
House. [ Placed in Library. See No. LT- 
3401/72]. The Survey of India has been 
transferred from the Ministry of Education 
to the Department of Science and Technology 
with effect from 3.5.71 and is now functioning 
as a scientific adjust to that Department like 
the Botanical Survey of India and the 
Zoological Survey of India. The recommen- 
dations in regard to details of organisation 
are under the consideration of Government. 

Books etc. produced by Publication 
Division 

2296. SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER : 
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) the names and number of books, 
pamphlets and publicity literature, produced 
by the Publications Division of the Ministry 
in regional languages of the country during 
the past three years ; and 

(b) the names and number of books, 
pamphlets and publicity literature produced 
by the Publications Division of the Ministry 
in English and Hindi during the past three 
years ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) and (b). A statement giving 
the requisite information is laid on the Table 
of the House. [Placed in Library . See No. LT- 
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Allocttloa on Foreign Exchange to email, 
medlnm and big newspapers 

2297. SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER : 
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING be pleased to state the 
reasons for the allocation of foreign exchange 
during 1970-71 to small newspapers, medium 
newspapers and big newspapers for the purpose 
of importing printing and composing machi- 
nery, not being in accordance with the terms of 
the assurances given in Parliament ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : The policy of Government in regard 
to the grant of licences to newspapers for the 
import of printing, composing and allied 
machinery is to earmark 50 per cent of the 
total available foreign exchange allocation for 
small newspapers (circulation below 15,000), 
35% for medium newspapers (circulation betw- 
een 15,000 and 50,000) and 15% for big news- 
papers (circulation above 50,000) and that 
too for inescapable needs of their plant and 
machinery. 

The requirements of all small newspapers 
which had applied for import of printing 
machinery during 1970-71, involving 27% of 
the total foreign exchange ceiling, were met 
subject to availability of credit from the 
countries from which the machinery was 
sought to be imported by the applicants. At 
the end of the year, as in the past, the foreign 
exchange allocation still available with 
Government was first utilised to meet the 
demands of medium newspapers and only 
thereafter the applications from big news- 
papers were considered and licences granted 
for their essential needs. There is nothing 
inconsistent in this procedure with any assu- 
rance given to Parliament. 

Quota for Imported Newsprint to News- 
papers and Periodicals 

2298. SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER : Will 
the MINISTER of INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) the basic entitlement of newspapers 
and periodicals of imported newsprint ; 

(b) whether the different categories of 
newspapers and periodicals received during 
1971-72 additional quota of imported news- 
print in accordance with the percentage fixed 
by the Department for such an increase ; and 

(c) if not, the reasons for the same ? 


THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRJ DHARAM BIR 
SINHAJ : (a) The basic entitlement of news- 
print, imported and indigenous, is determined 
in terms of Remark V to the Newsprint Allo- 
cation Policy for the licensing period 1972-73 
a copy of which was laid on the Table of the 
Lok Sabha on 1 1, 4. 1972. This entitlement 
is for allocation as under: — 


Entitlement range 

Imported Indigenous 

DAILIES 

(i) less than 400 tonnes 

100% 

Nil 

(ii) 400 tonnes or above 
but less than 1000 
tonnes. 

90% 

10% 

(iii)1000 tonnes or above 
but less than 2000 

tonnes. 

82.5% 

17.5% 

0 

(iv)2000 tonnes and 
above 

75% 

25% 

PERIODICALS (Strandard newsprint) 


(i) less than 100 tonnes 

100% 

Nil 

(ii) over 100 tonnes 

100% 

Nil 

PERIODICALS (Glazed Newsprint) 


All entitlement 

100% 

Nil 

(b) Newspapers and 

periodicals 

were 


allowed additional quota towards permissible 
increases in terms of the Newsprint Allocation 
Policy for 1971-72, on application, as requird 
under Remark VII of the Annexure I to the 
Public Notice 

(c) Only newspapers and periodicals 
which did not apply for such increases were 
not allowed any additional quota as admissi- 
ble under the Policy. 

Per capita Income in M. P. 

2299. SHRI RANABAHADUR SINGH : 
Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased 
tp state : 

(a) the per capita income in Madhya 
Pradesh during the last three years, year- wise, 
as oompared to other States in the country ; 

(b) the per capita income of various 
income groups of people in the States as 
compared to respective groups in Madhya 
pradesh ; and 

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increase the income of backward areas in 
Madhya Pradesh ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) The comparable esti- 
mates of per capita income of various States 
for the last three years, e g. 1969-70, 
1970-71 and 1971-72 are not yet available. 
The estimates of per capita State income 
have, however, been made for the year 

1969- 70 by the State Statistical Bureaux in all 
States except Bihar, Jammu and Kashmir, 
Kerala, Orissa, Manipur, and Tripura. For 

1970- 71, similar estimates have been worked 

out by the State Statistical Bureaux of a few 
States only, viz. Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, 
Mysore, Tamil Nadu and West Bengal. 
Owing to difference in concepts, methodology 
source of material and the base years, etc. 
these estimates are not comparable among the 
States. No estimates are yet available for the 
year 1971-72. * 

(b) Presently, the per capita income is 
being worked for each State as a whole and 
not separately for various income groups of 
people and, therefore, the information Is not 
available. 

(c) The development of backward areas 
is primarily the function of the concerned 
States. However, the steps which the Govern- 
ment of India has taken so far for removing 
the relative backwardness of the areas in 
Madhya Pradesh are set out in the Statement 
laid on the Table of the House. [Placed in 
Library . See No. LT. 3403/72]. 

Medium Scale Industries in M. P. 

2300. SHRI RANABAHADUR SINGH : 
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH- 
NOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of medium scale industries 
alongwith their locations in Madhya Pradesh 
and the items manufactured by them ; 

(b) the total investment of these indus- 
tries in the State and the number of persons 
employed by them during last three years ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) 
{a) and (b), There is no separate classifica- 
tion of Industries into large and medium 
scale. Therefore, separate statistics are not 
maintained in respect of medium scale indus- 
tries. 


Appointment of Qualified People to 
Special Jobs in Various Fields of Admi- 
nistration 

2301. SHRI FATESINGH RAO GAEK- 
WADi Will the PRIME MINISTER be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether it has been decided to insist, 
in feature, on appointment of qualified people 
to Special jobs in various fields of adminis- 
tration and not to endorse the appointment 
of departmental candidates as a matter of 
routine ; and 

(b) if so, the main points of the decision ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and (b). 
Appointments to posts under the Government 
of India are made in accordance with the 
rules of recruitment made by the President 
under the proviso to article 309 of the Cons- 
titution. The .rules specify inter alia the 
methods of recruitment as well as the quali- 
fications/experience, required for appoint- 
ment. The method of recruitment for 
a post i. e . whether the post should 
be filled entirely by direct recruitment, or 
partly by direct recruitment and partly by 
promotion from departmental employees, or 
entirely by promotion from such employees 
is decided taking into account the nature of 
duties and responsibilities attached to the post 
as well as its job requirements. Arrangements, 
therefore, already exist for making appoint- 
ments of qualified persons according to require- 
ments of the posts. 

Increase In Cost of Coal Gasification 
Plant at Hyderabad 

2302. SHRI FATESINGH RAO GAE- 
KWAD : Will the Minister of SCIENCE 
AND TFCHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the cost of the coal gasifica^- 
tion plant at Hyderabad has escalated by 
stages from R*. 21 lacs to Rs. 169 lacs, if so, 
the reasons therefor ; 

(b) the total amount of infructuous ex- 
penditure together with the amount of further 
commitments for payment, if any ; and 

(c) whether a comprehensive investigation 
has been made into the case of pinpoint res- 
ponsibility, and if not, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- 



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NIAM) : (a) The amount of Rs. 21.00 lakhs 
approved by the Governing Body of the Coun- 
cil of Scientific and Industrial Research 
(CSIR) in 1962 were based on preliminary 
estimates obtained in 1956. However, on the 
basis of quotations received Irom several firms 
in 1964, an amount of Rs. 45.50 lakhs was 
actually sanctioned by the Governing Body. 
The escalation should be taken from Rs. 45.50 
lakhs. This was mostly due to devaluation 
and financing charges under the French credit. 
According to present calculations, the total 
capital cost of the plant is estimated at 
Rs. 96.38 lakhs. 

(b) The expenditure of Rs. 35.12 lakhs 
already incurred and committed expenditure 
of Rs. 33.38 lakhs is not infructuous. The 
importance of gasification of coals as an 
energy source has to be appreciated in the 
context of rising prices of imported crude. 
The plant is intended to develop the techno- 
logy and know-how on coal gasification of 
low grade coals in Godavri and Wardha 
valleys. The project continues to be of natio- 
nal importance. 

(c) In view of the replies to parts (a) and 
(b) above, this does not arise. 

Selection of IAS Officers in Higher Posts 

2303. SHRI HARI SINGH : Will the 
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the existing procedure of 
selection of Indian Administrative Service 
Officers to higher posts is not satisfactory ; 
and 

(b) if so, the new procedure proposed to 
be introduced for the selection ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) (a). No, 
Sir. 

(b) Does not arise. 

C. B. I. Investigations Abroad 

2301. SHRI HARI SINGH * Will the 
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state the 
number and nature of crimes which 
were investigated abroad by the Central 
bureau of Investigation in 1970 and 1971 ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 

ministry of home affairs and 

in THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) s In 1970 


and 1971 there were 54 instances in which 
investigation had to be made abroad in cases 
investigated by the Central Bureau of Investi- 
gation. 

In 6 of these cases, officers of the Central 
Bureau of Investigation were sent abroad to 
make the investigation ; in 41 cases, investi- 
gations were got done through the Interpol 
and in 7 cases they were got done through 
the Ministry of External Affairs. 

These cases related to violations of statu- 
tory provisions relating to imports and exports 
and foreign exchange, misconduct, misappro- 
priation, fraud and forgery. 

G. B. I. Investigation 

2305. SHRI HARI SINGH : Will the 
Minisier of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to 
state ; 

(a) the number, of cases where Central 
Bureau of Investigation has sought help from 
International Criminal Police Organisation, 
Paris during the period of 1970 and 1971 ; 
and 

(b) the nature of cases for which G. B. 
I. sought assistance from International 
Criminal Police Organisation, Paris ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F. 
H. MOHSIN) : (a) 41. 

(b) The following types of cases were 
referred to the International Police Organi- 
sation, Paris by the C. B. I. : — 

(i) Violations of the Import and Export 
Control Act and Foreign Exchange 
Regulations Act. 

(ii) Misconduct in securing appointments 
on the basis of false certificates pur- 
porting to have been issued by 
institutions abroad. 

(iii) Misappropriation, fraud and forgery 
committed in India in which some of 
the relevant witnesses had gone abroad 
when the cases were taken up for 
investigation. 

(iv) Pilferage of contents of postal articles 
in international transit. 

(v) Fraudulent removal of antiques from 
India to foreign countries. 

(vi) Misconduct (forgery, misappropriation 
etc.) of some Indian officials while 
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Supersession in Senior I. A* S. Officers 

2306. SHRI HARI SINGH : Will the 
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state the 
number of Indian Administrative Service 
Officers who have been superseded by Junior 
Indian Administrative Service Officers, from 
January, 1971 to 5th July, 1972, in all the 
Departments of Government of India ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : Appoint- 
ments to posts under the Central Government 
are made, on tenure basis, generally from 
among members of the All India Services 
and the Central Services, having regard to 
the merits, claims and availability of the 
officeis in the field of choice. 

During the period from the 1st January. 
1971, to the 31st, July 1972 53 meinbersof the 
Indian Administrative Service held lower 
posts under the Central Government, while 
officers junior to them were appointed to 
higher posts under the Central Government. 

Provision in budget for bringing out 
monthly Digests in several languages 

2307. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR : 
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether budget of Information and 
Broadcasting Ministry two years back provided 
for a project to bring out monthly Digests in 
several languages ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons for not implementing 
this project ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA): (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) It is now being examined. 

Guidelines for establishment of Joint 
Sector 

2308. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR : 
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHN- 
OLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have prepared 
two papers providing guidelines for the 
establishment of Joint Sector at the Central 
and State levels ; and 


(b) if so, the salient points of the guide- 
lines ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) 
(a) and (b). The Industrial Licensing Policy 
of the Government annouuced in February, 
1970 envisages the establishment of Joint 
Sector through the conversion into equity of 
loans advanced by Public Financial Insti- 
tutions to private companies. Detailed guide- 
lines in this regard have been issued by the 
Department of Banking and copies of the 
same have already been laid on the Table of 
the House. 

Instructions have been issued that where 
State Industrial Development Corporations 
wish to associate other parties in the projects 
licensed to them, the Corporations themselves 
should hold not less than 26% of the equity 
and no other party should hold more than 
25%. 

Center al Publicity Advisory Committee 

2309. SHRI MADHURYYA IIALDAR : 
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) the names of non-official members of 
the Central Publicity Advisory Committee 
and their qualifications ; 

(b) whether a list of attendance of these 
non-official members aL the last three meetings 
of the Advisory Committee will be placed on 
Table of the House ; and 

(c) what are the function of this new 
Committee and how far its activities have 
been helpful ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) (a) In April, 1972 a Publicity 
Advisory Group was constituted. The names 
of the non-official members of this Group 
are : 

1. Shri M. Chalapathi Rau Editor, 
National Herald, New Delhi. 

2. Shri Miinal Sen, Film Director, 
Calcutta. 

3. Dr. V. K. Narayana Menon, Executive 
Director, National Centre for Per- 
forming Arts, Bombay. 

4. Shri Dewan Berindernath, Special 



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Correspondent, Press Asia International 
New Delhi. 

5. Dr. Mohammad Ayoob, Associate 
Professor, Indian School of Inter- 
national Studies, New Delhi 

6- Shri S. Sukhdev, Film Director, 
Bombay. 

All of them arc eminent persons in their 
respective fields, 

(b) Only 2 meetings have so far taken 
place and the attendance of the non-official 
members was as follows : — 

First meeting held on 20th April, 1972 — 5 
Second meeting held on 14th June, 1972 — 2 

(c) The functions of the Publicity Advi- 
sory Group are to advise the Ministry of 
Information and Broadcasting on publicity 
matters in general, review the work done and 
the programmes put out by the media organi- 
sations under the Ministry, consider how they 
have reacted on public opinion and suggest 
what modifications are necessary and what 
programmes should be planned for the 
future. 

The deliberations of the group at the 
meetings have been helpful to the media units 
in formulating their publicity programmes. 

Short-fall in Industrial Production 

2310. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY : 

SIIRI VAYALAR RAVI : 

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state the 
target of and short-fall in the industrial 
production during the last three years, indus- 
trywise and public and private scctorwisc ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR 
PRASAD) : Statement I showing targets and 
production figures of industries in Public 
Sector is laid on the Table of the House. 
[Placed in Library . See No. LT— 3404/72] 

Statement II containing index of industrial 
production for both public and private sectors 
in respect of selected industries is laid on the 
Table of the House. [Placed in Library See No. 
LT— 3404/72] 


Expenditure on the Surrender of Dacoit* 
and grant made to Chambal Ghati Shanti 
Peace Mission 

2311. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY : 

SHRI K. MALLANNA : 

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) the total expenditure incurred on the 
surrender of dacoits in Madhya Pradesh, 
Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan ; 

(b) the total Grant provided to Chambal 
Ghati Shanti Peace Mission, if any ; and 

(c) what are the proposals to rehabilitate 
the surrendered dacoits ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F. 
H. MOHSIN) : (a) The information is being 
collected from the concerned State Govern- 
ments and wiH be laid on the Table of the 
House. 

(b) Rs. one lakh have been given as out 
right cash grant and Rs. 50,000 have been 
spent for providing various facilities by the 
Government of Madhya Pradesh. 

(c) An integrated development scheme 
for socioeconomic development of the area 
and, for the rehabilitation of the dacoits is 
being prepared by the Central Government 
in consultation with the concerned State 
Governments. 

Check on Increase In prices of Cars 

2312. SHRI P. GANGADEB s Will the 
MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether according to the Supreme 
Court Judgement on Car price issue the prices 
of cars are to be" revised on January 1 and 
July I every year ; and 

(b) whether any steps have been taken 
by Government to see that prices of cars do 
not increase every six months, and if so, the 
nature of steps taken ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) The prices of cars are dependent on 
the prices of raw materials, mainly steel, and 
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units ; as well as on the wage bill, taxes etc. 
Steps are taken to have a check on the cost 
of the various items, however, they cannot be 
controlled by Government action alone. 
Further, Government have taken steps to 
license a large number of units in the ancillary 
Bector for the manufacture of components, so 
that the car manufacturers can purchase 
these components at economic prices which 
will result from keen competition amongst a 
large number of supplying units. 

Unsatisfactory Delhi Postal Service 

2213. SHRI R. S. PANDEY : Will the 
Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether numerous complaints arc 
received about unsatisfactory postal service in 
Delhi ; 

(b) if so, the steps being taken to improve 
the postal service in the capital to ensure 
timely delivery ; and 

(c) the broad outlines thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
A few complaints have been received regar- 
ding delay in delivery of letters. 

(b) and (c). Continuous efforts are being 
made to improve the services ; measures have 
been taken to 

( i ) combat absenteeism amongst postmen 
staff 

(li) ensure punctual running of mail 
motor service and 

(iii) rationalise the beats of postmen. 

Effect of Expansion of T. V. on Film 
Industry 

2314. SHRI R S. PANDEY : Will the 
Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- 
CASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the introduction of Television 
service has had any adverse effect on the film 
industry in the country so far ; 

(b) if so, the steps taken to safeguard 
the interest of the film industry with the pro- 
posed expansion of Television service ; and 

(c) whether Government have consulted 
representatives of the film industry in this 
regard and if so, their views thereon ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 


BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) No, Sir. 

(b) Does not arise. 

(c) Yes, Sir The Government is unable 
to ^grec to the view of the Film Federation of 
India that the T. V. programmes in Delhi 
have affected film shows. 

Feasibility Report for setting up Indus- 
tries In Laccadive, Minicoy and Amin- 
dive Islands 

2315. SHRI R. S. PANDEY s Will the 
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT 
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be 
pleased to state ; 

(a) whether a feasibility study of starting 
small scale industries in the Laccadive, 
Minicoy and Amindive Islands was under- 
taken by Geological Survey of India and 
Council of Scientific and Industrial Research ; 

(b) whether the study has since been 
completed and if so, the findings thereof ; and 

(c) the steps taken to encourage indus- 
trialists to set up small industries there and 
the incentives offered to them for the purpose ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SIIRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) to (c). Information is being collected 
and will be laid on the Table of the House. 

Emergency Plan for Machine Tools 

2316. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will 
the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the National Committee on 
Science and Technology has prepared the 
Emergency Plan for Machine Tools ; and 

(b) if so, broad outlines thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- 
MANIAM) : (a) Yes. 

(b) The Emergency Plan is a task orien- 
ted programme to develop those types of 
machines which are presently being imported 
and to generate necessary technological compe- 
tence so as to achieve self-reliance within a 
period of 3 to 5 years. The Hindustan Mac- 
hine Tools Ltd. and the Central Machine 
Tools Institute will be primarily involved in 
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Statehood for Pondicherry 

2317. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will 
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether Pondicherry Chief Minister 
has approached the Centre for full Statehood 
for the Union territory ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Central Govern- 
ment thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) No, Sir. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Increase in Production of Paper and 
Paper Board 

2318. SHRI ARVIND NETAM s Will 
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state ; 

(a) whether production of paper and 
paper board in the country has increased 
during this year as compared to the previous 
years ; and 

(bj if so, the percentage of increase ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) The Production of paper and paper 
board during the year 1972 increased from 
7,58,549 tonnes to 7,80,828 tonnes. 

(b) The increase is about 3% 

Non* Medical Insurance Policy Scheme 
for Postal Staff 

2319. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD 
VERMA : Will the Minister of COMMUNI- 
CATIONS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Posts and Telegraphs Depart- 
ment is introducing in near future non-medi- 
cal Insurance Policies Scheme for Postal 
staff ; and 

(b) if so, the time by which a final 
decision will be taken and salier^ features of 
the scheme ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) t (a) 
and (b). Non- medical scheme of business has 
been introduced in the Postal Life Insurance 
with effect from the 1st of June, 1972. The 
Scheme is applicable not only to the Postal 


Staff but also to all Other Central and State 
Government employees and the permanent 
employees of the Local Bodies who are eligible 
for PLf . Extra Departmental employees of the 
P&T and all Female lives have, however, 
been excluded from its purview. 

The salient features of the scheme are 
that an eligible person may be insured for a 
sum not exceeding Rs. 3,500/-or 24 times his 
monthly emoluments drawn (rounded off to 
the next lower Rs. 100/-), whichever is lower, 
without undergoing a medical examination. 
His age next birthday at entry should not 
exceed 28 years. Only Endowment Assurance 
policies maturing at ages 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 
58 and 60 are issued under this scheme. 

Indian postal Service Association’s Resolu- 
tion to P&T Board 

2320. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD 
VERMA s Will^the Minister of COMMUNI- 
CATIONS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Indian Postal Service 
Association has submitted a Resolution to the 
Posts and Telegraphs Board wherein it has 
been suggested that an integrated Postal 
Training College be set up ; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Government 
thereto ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
Yes Sir. 

(b) The matter is under consideration of 
the Government. 

Abduction of Girls in Delhi 

2321. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD 
VERMA : Will the Minister of HOME 
AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 

(a) the total number of girls abducted 
during the period from January to June, 1972 
in the Union territory of Delhi ; and 

(b) the number of girls not recovered so 
far and the reasons thereof ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F . H. MOHSIN) : (a) 14. 

(b) 2 out of 14 girls have not so far been 
recovered. One girl could not be recovered 
despite the best efforts of the police. This 
case has been sent as untraccd and its inves- 
tigation will be re-opened as and when any 
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Efforts are still being made by the Delhi 
Police to recover the second girl. 

Industries in U. P. during Fourth Plan 

2322. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will 
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state the industrial units, 
both big and medium, which are likely to be 
set up in Uttar Pradesh during the Fourth 
Plan? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
In the central sector, provision has been made 
in the Fourth Five Year Plan for the comple- 
tion/setting up of the following projects in 
the State of Uttar Pradesh : — 

1, Bharat Heavy Elec. Ltd., Hardwar. 

2. Gorakhpur Fertilizer. 


3. Triveni Structural, Nairn. 

4. Bharat Pumps & Compressors, Naini. 

5. Gas Cylinder, Naini. 

6. Long Distance Transmission Equipment 
Factory Naini. 

7. Second Telephone Factory, Naini. 

8. Tannery & Footwear Corporation, 
Kanpur. 

9. Kanpur Fertilizers (Govt, share) 

10. Indian Drugs & Pharmaceuticals Ltd. 
(Antibiotics Factory), Rishikesh. 

In the private sector, the number of 
industrial licensing applications received, 
licences and letters of intent issued, during 
the last three years in respect of the State of 
Uttar Pradesh are as given below : — 


Year 

No. of applications 

1 received under I (D&R) 

| Act. 1951 

No. of licences issued 

1 No. of letters 
| of intent 

issued 

1969 

91 ( 42) 

8 ( 2) 

24(10) 

1970 

242 (130) 

26 ( 4) 

29(20) 

1971 

334 (227) 

48 (13) 

100(70) 

1972 
(up to 
30-6-1972) 

162 (125) 

23 ( 8) 

61(49) 


NOTE : Figures in brackets refer to new industrial undertakings. 


loss incurred by A. I. R. Programme 
Journals 

2323. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- 
SHAR : Will the Minister of INFORMA- 
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether all the programme journals 
published by the A. I. R. with the exception 
of Vanoli (Tamil) are running at a loss and 
that the major contributors to the loss in 
1968-69 have been Akashvani (English), Akas- 
hvani (Hindi) and Awaz (Urdu) ; 

(b) whether Government have tried to 
analyse the factors responsible for this loss ; 
and 

(c) if so, whether any effective steps are 
proposed to be taken to make these journals 
self-supporting ? 


THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SIN HA) ; (a) All the Programme Journals 
are running at loss, including Vanoli (Tamil). 

(b) Yes, Sir. 

(c) The format, printing and quality of 
production of Akashwani (English) have been 
changed recently with a view to making it 
more attractive. After assessing the success of 
these measures, similar steps will be considered 
in respect of the other journals. 

Decline in Circulation of Air Journals 

2324. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARAS- 
HAR J Will the Minister of INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the average circulation per 




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issue of all the 8 Programme Journals of All 
India Radio has registered a decline every 
year since 1966, in spite of the opening of 
additional stations, introduction of new pro- 
grammes and sharp increase in Broadcas- 
ting Receiving sets ; 

(b) if so, the reasons for this decline ; and 

(c) the steps proposed to be taken to 
counter this trend ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) Mainly due to the fact that listeners 
get the details of important programmes 
through daily announcements over radio 
stations and in local newspapers. 

(c) Steps to improve the printing and 
get up of these journals are under considera- 
tion and a beginning has already been made in 
the case of Akashvani (English) by introduc- 
ing changes in the format, quality of printing 
and paper. 

Delay in Commissioning of Transmitters 

2325. PROF. NARAIN CIIAND PARA- 
SIIAR : Will the Minister of INFORMATION 
\ND BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether there has been a delay rang- 
ing from 5 to 36 months in commissioning of 
transmitters after their installation in the past 
three years ; 

(b) if so, whether Government have 
ascertained the causes for this inordinate 
delay ; and 

(c) whether any steps are proposed to be 
taken by Government to eliminate such 
delays ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) s (a) Only in the case of the 
transmitter at Leh there was a delay exceed- 
ing five months between installation of trans- 
nutter and inauguration. In other cases the 
time-lag has not been more than about three 
months. In many cases, it has been much 
l'*ss. 

(b) and (c). The delay at Leh was 
because .the transmitter was installed in 
November 1970 but due to the extreme cold 
it was decided to inaugurate the Station in 


June 1971 after acclimatizing the staff to 
high altitude conditions. 

Reorganization of Broadcasting Services 

2326. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- 
SHAR : Will the Minister of INFORMA- 
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether Government have any plan 
for the reorganisation of the Broadcasting 
Services especially when it has rejected the 
recommendation of the Chanda Committee 
for instituting an autonomous Corporation 
under an Act of Parliament ; and 

(b) if so, the period by which such a 
reorganisation would be completed ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) Yes.Sir. 

(b) No definite time limit for the com- 
pletion of the reorganization can be indicated 
at this stage as a final decision can only be 
taken after full consideration of all aspects of 
the matter and consultation with the authori- 
ties concerned. 

Installation of a 100 KW MW Transmitter 
at Simla 

2327. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- 
SHAR : Will the Minister of INFORMA- 
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether 100 KW MW transmitter to 
be installed at Simla was received in Decem- 
ber, 1967 and that there was delay of 23 
months in its inauguration commissioning ; 

(b) if so, the causes for delay ; and 

(c) whether any responsibility has been 
fixed for this inordinate delay causing a 
serious blockade of funds ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) i (a) The high power medium wave 
transmitter for Simla was received in July- 
September, 1967 and commissioned on 
25.1.1971. 

(b) There was some initial delay in select- 
ing the site as the site earlier selected could 
not be released by the Ministry of , Defence. 
Further delay occurred on account of the fact 
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amount of levelling before building construc- 
tion could begin. 

(c) As the delay was due to factors beyond 
the control of All India Radio the question of 
fixing responsibility does not arise. 

Documentary on Netaji Bose 

2328. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the 
Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- 
CASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government decided to pro- 
duce a documentary film on life and activities 
of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose some three 
years back ; if so, the reasons for inordinate 
delay in its production ; 

(b) whether it will be released before the 
next birthday celebration of Netaji on 23rd 
January, 1973 ; 

(c) whether documentary films on and 
photos of Netaji have *been collected from 
Japan and South East Asian countries and 
Germany, Italy and other European countries 
for the film on Netaji under production ; 

(d) whether a documentary on Netaji 
and I. N. A. was shown on India under the 
control of Sardar Patel and then it was 
handed over to the Congress I. N. A. Aid 
Committee ; 

(e) whether that documentary has been 
found out and given to the producer for using 
as materials for the film on Netaji : and 

(f) the salient features of the film ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. A film on Netaji 
was included in programme of the Films Di- 
vision over three years ago. Leading film 
directors were approached and it took about 
a year to assign the film. The first director 
Shri Mrinal Sen gave up the assignment for 
personal reasons. It took more time before 
Shri Ashis Mukherjee was assigned in Novem- 
ber 1970. He later asked for enhancement of 
the contract amount and facilities which arc 
under consideration of Government. 

(b) No, Sir. However, the Films Divi- 
sion proposes to prepare a short film on 
Netaji for release on his birthday on 23.1.1973 
by using the film material available with the 
Division. 

(c) Efforts were made to collect the film 
coverages on the life and activities of Netaji 


Bose particularly of the Azad Hind struggle 
period but they were not very successful. Only 
a 16 mm film on Net^yi from Germany and a 
silent news reel item from Japan which shows 
Netaji going to talk on the radio, could be 
obtained so far. 

(d) The documentary film on Netaji 
which was produced by the I. N. A. Defence 
Committee was shown in India in almost all 
the States ; but Government have no informa- 
tion about the handing over of the film to the 
Congress I. N. A. Aid Committee. 

(e) No, Sir. 

(f) The film under production is a two- 
reel, Black and white film of a biographical 
nature. 

Honours to persons who rendered patriotic 

services for National Development 

2329. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the 
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether along with the freedom 
fighters, special honour will be given to those 
belonging to the various sertions of the 
society, who have rendered 25 years of 
patriotic service by their contribution in the 
various fields in consolidating and building 
our national freedom ; 

(b) whether special achievements and 
talents in various spheres of national develop- 
ments would also be given special recognition 
so that a new sense of dignity and honour 
can be developed in encouraging services in 
the national-building efforts ; and 

(c) if so, the plan drawn there about ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. G. PANT) : (a) to (c). Government 
have been recognising distinguished service by 
individuals in different walks of life through 
the Padma Awards. It is not proposed to 
institute any special awards for this purpose 
during the 25th Independence Jayanti. 

25th Anniversary Celebrations of Indian 
Independence 

2330. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the 
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether special ceremonial functions 
will be held in observing the 25th year of 
Indian freedom in Andaman and Nicobar 
Islands, particularly at Port Blair and Anda- 



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man Cellular Jail where Netaji Subhas 
Chandra Bose raised first flag of Indian 
freedom and had set up Indian administration 
of Free India Government at Moirang in 
Manipur, where INA raised the National 
Flag and Headquarter of Free India Govern- 
ment was set up ; at Kohima, where the 
epic battle of freedom was fought by INA 
and in those jails elsewhere, where INA 
prisoners were hanged ; 

(b) whether special functions will be 
held in all jails where India revolutionaries 
were hanged ; 

(c) whether martyr's columns will be raised 
in all the big towns of India in commemora- 
tion of the national martyrs of our freedom 
struggle ; and 

(d) if so, the main features of such pro- 
gramme ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. Cl. PANT) : (a) Accoiding to informa- 
tion received so far, the Andaman Administra- 
tion would unveil on the 15th August, 1972, 
a plaque containing the names of the twelve 
martyrs, who died in the Cellular Jail at 
Port Blair in the cause of Freedom. 

(b) Other State Governments have given 
no information on this point, 

(c) and (d). According to the National 
level programme for 25th Independence 
Jayanti, Commemorative Stone slabs, with 
inscription of the Preamble to the Constitution 
on one side and the names of the freedom 
fighters of the local area on the other arc to 
be installed one in each block — all over the 
country during the Jayanti Year. 

In addition, it has been suggested to State 
Governments to consider putting up some 
monuments or suitable memorials at places 
associated with social events in the freedom 
struggle. 

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Legislation for banning Communal Orga- 
nisations and Parties 

2334. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO : 
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whethei there is any proposal under 
consideration of Government to introduce 
suitable legislation for the banning of commu- 
nal organisations and parties in the country ; 
and 

(b) if so, the main features thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 

MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The 
object of the Criminal Law (Amendment) 
Act, 1972, which was enacted by Parliament 
in the last Budget Session, is, inter alia , to deal 
with associations whose activities are prejudi- 
cial to the maintenance of communal harmony 
and to the interests of national integration. 

(b) The Act enlarges the scope of section 
153, I. P. C. so as to penalise those kinds of 
drills or exercises organised with the intention 
or with the knowledge that persons trained in 
such activities should resort to violence against 
any religious, racial, language or regional group 
or caste or community and such activity causes 
or is likely to cause fear or alarm or a feeling 



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282 


of insecurity amongst members of such group 
or caste or community. A new section 153B 
I. P. G. has also been inserted to penalise 
imputations, assertions prejudicial to national 
integration. Further, the scope of the Unlaw- 
ful Activities (Prevention) Act, 1967 has been 
enlarged to include in the definition of “unlaw- 
ful association” also associations which have for 
their object any activity which is punishable 
under section 153 A or under the new section 
153B I. P. C. or which encourage or aid 
persons to undertake any such activity or 
whose members undertake any such activity. 

Study Team visiting places in Tamil 
Nadu where Police fired in July, 1972 

2335. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO : 
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether a Study Team visited the 
places in Tamil Nadu State where police 
fired at the public at several places in the first 
week of July, 1972 ; and 

(b) if so, whether the study team has 
submitted its report to Government and if so, 
the findings thereof and Government’s reaction 
thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) Government had not 
deputed any such Study Team to Tamil 
Nadu. 

(b) Docs not arise. 

Raj Bhavans in the Country 

2336. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO : 
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) the number of Raj Bhavans together 
with their locations in the country and their 
original cost of construction in each case ; 

(b) the cost of furnishings of each Raj 
Bhavan ; and 

(c) the amount spent on maintenance on 
each Raj Bhavan annually ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) to (c). The informa- 
tion is being collected and will be laid on the 
table of the House. 


Scheme for Training and Assistance to 

Engineers by S. S» I. S. I. f Jaipur 

2337. SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKO- 
DKAR : 

SHRI SHRIKISHAN MODI : 

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- 
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH- 
NOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government’s attention has 
been drawn to the report appearing in the 
Hindustan Times, dated the 7th July, 1972 
regarding the twin schemes of training and 
assistance to engineers launched by the Small 
Scale Industries Seivice Institute in Jaipur, 
Rajasthan ; and 

(b) if so, whether such schemes are 
proposed to be introduced in other States also 
and whether these will solve unemployment 
among engineers ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) and (b). Yes, Sir. In order to solve 
unemployment among engineers/technicians 
and other educated unemployed pci sons, the 
Government of India have motivated two 
schemes, viz. training of and assistance to 
engineers entrepreneurs for self-employment 
and a scheme for assisting educated unemp- 
loyed. These schemes arc already in existence 
in all States and Union Territories. Unem- 
ployed engineers are trained to be entrepre- 
neurs under one of the schemes by 29 institu- 
tes throughout the country. The other schems 
aims at providing assistance to the educated 
unemployed in the form of equity capital, 
machinery on hii e-pui chase, industrial and 
commercial estates and assistance to techni- 
cians’ Co-operatives within a ceiling of Rs. 6.5 
crores per annum. 

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Slow growth rate in Electronics Industry 

2342. SHRI D. K. PANDA : Will the 
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the growth rate of the Elec- 
tronics Industry has considerably slowed down 
in 1971-72 ; 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ; and 

(c) the steps taken to step up production 
in the electronic industry ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. C. PANT) : (a) and (b). The production 
of electronics has been steadily increasing 
from 1964-G5, when the Bhabha Committee 
Report was published. From a total produc- 
tion of Rs. 30.5 crores of electronic devices 
and components in that year, the production 
stepped upto Rs. 175 crores in 1970-71. The 
data for the year 1971-72 as brought out in 
the Annual Report of the Department for the 
year 1971-72 indicates a production of 
Rs. 185.5 crores. The production for that 
year as expected earlier was Rs. 225 crores. 
However, th<' production of radios which had 
shown significant increases in earlier years 
did not show substantial increase in the year 
1971-72 ; and this has to a significant extent 
resulted in lower production for the electro- 
nics industry as a whole than what was 
expected earlier. 

In this connection, it may be emphasised 
that the impoit content allowed per radio set 
is Rs. 0.25 and the investments in this sector 
are small. There are, therefore, no restrictions 
on production which is essentially defined 
by demand ; even in the case of firms 
requiring licences in this sector their produc- 
tion is well below the approved capacities. 

It may also be mentioned that the produc- 
tion figures given in the Annual Report are 
not based on actual production returns but 
are the best estimates that can be made. 
Production of a number of electronic items in 
significant quantities is being undertaken in 
the small-scale sector for which correct statis- 
tical data is not easily available. 

(c) The Electronics Commission is aware 
of this trend and has set up technical sections 
to go round the country and to discuss with 
private and public undertakings and individual 
entrepreneurs and to persuade them to take 
to the production of items which are needed 
in the country and arc presently being 


imported, and to assist them in dealing with 
their problems. 

Check on Brain Drain 

2343. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH 
MALIK Will the Minister of SCIENCE 
AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether any proposal is under consi- 
deration of Government to check the brain 
drain and induce Indian Scientists abroad to 
return to India ; and 

(b) if so, the main features of the propo- 
sal ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMANI- 
AM) : (a) and (b). Some of the measures 
taken to facilitate the return of Indian 
Scientists and Technologists are given in the 
Statement attached. 

Statement 

(1) Arrangements have been made for 
enrolment of Indian Scientists and 
Technologists abroad in the Special 
Section of the National Register of 
Scientific and Technical Personnel 
maintained by C S. I. R. 

(2) The particulars of Indian Scientists 
and Technologists enrolled in the 
Special Section of the National 
Register are published periodically in 
separate classified lists for engineers, 
scientists, doctors, etc. by C. S. I. R. 
and sent to all Ministries, Depart- 
ments of Government of India, State 
Governments, Union and State 
Public Service Commissions, Univer- 
sities, Public Sector Industries and 
large private sector establishments to 
facilitate their absorption. 

(3) The Union Public Service Commis- 
sion have agreed to treat Indian 
Scientists and Technologists whose 
particulars appear in these classified 
lists as “Personal Contact” candidates 
for all posts advertised by them. 
Some of the State Public Service 
Commissions have also agreed to 
treat such persons as personal contact 
candidates for posts advertised by 
them. 

(4) A Scientists* Pool was created under 



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the Government of India, Ministry of 
Home Affairs (Manpower Directorate) 
Resolution No. 8/5/57- MP, dated 
15th October, 1958, for the temporary 
placement of well qualified Indian 
Scientists and Technologists without 
an employment. The Pool is adminis- 
tered by the G. S. I. R. Candidates 
selected arc paid a fixed salary some- 
where between Rs. 400.00 and 
Rs. 700.00 p. m. and other allowances 
at the Central Government rules. 
In exceptional cases, salary above 
Rs. 700.00 is also offered. The selected 
candidates are attached to suitable 
organisations and receive their salary 
from the date they start work. They 
are free to apply for any employment 
in India and leave the Pool on 
securing one. 

(5) The National Registir Unit of C. S. 
I. R. issues a monthly Bulletin called 
“Technical Manpower” which pub- 
lishes among other things, particulars 
of scientists and technologists selected 
for appointment to the Pool from 
different countries. Vacancies availa- 
ble in India for qualified scientists and 
technologists are also published. 
Copies of the Bulletin are sent to all 
India Missions abroad and all impor- 
tant University Centres in U. K., 
U- S. A. and other countries. It is 
also distributed to many (more than 
3000) employing agencies in the 
Public or Private sectors in India. 

(6) In August, 1963, all approved scien- 
tific institutions were authorised to 
create supernumerary posts for rapid 
recruitment of talented persons from 
abroad without having to go through 
the usual procedural delay. The 
scheme was extended ^n June, 1971 
to those who had not been abroad, so 
that they may not have to go abroad 
for lack of employment. 

(7) In consultation with the Ministry of 
Home Affairs, the U. P. S. C. have 
made arrangements for interviewing 
Indian Scientists and Technologists 
abroad for posts in India. The Indian 
Scientists abroad arc considered in 
course of this interview, for one or 
more categories of vacancies existing 
as well as those likely to arise in the 
next twelve months, and are empane- 


lled depending upon their age, acade- 
mic qualifications and experience. 

The Government of India have deci- 
ded that on their selection to regular 
employment in India, Indian Scien- 
tists etc. abroad may be granted 
economy class air-fare for self and 
family to facilitate their return, 
provided they undertake to serve the 
organisation for a minimum period 
of 3 years. 

(8) The University Grants Commission 
have instituted a programme of 
appointing visiting Professors in 
Indian Universities for the benefit of 
scientists abroad. 

(9) For Technologists, a package assistance 
is proposed to be given to set up 
industry on their return. 

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Funds for New Units of H. M. T. 

2347. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will the 
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLO- 
GY be pleased to state the funds allocated 
for the purpose of setting up of new units of 
Hindustan Machine Tools Ltd. in the country 
in 1972-73 and 1973-74 ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) 1 
The details of the funds provided for the 
new projects undertaken by Hindustan 
Machine Tools Ltd. Bangalore in 1972-73 are 
furnished below : 



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Rs. 

Watch Factory II, Bangalore 

105 lakhs 

Watch Factory III, Srinagar 

207 lakhs 

Press Division, Hyderabad 

140 lakhs 

Printing Machinery Project, 
Kalamassery (Kerala) 

150 lakhs 

Tractor Division, Pinjore 

100 lakhs 

Total : 

702 lakhs 

As regards 1973-74, the Budget proposals 
yet to be finalised. 


Non-Utilisation of Development Funds 
allotted to backward States 

2348. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will 
the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether Government of India have 
received complaints that ^ number of back- 
ward States in the country have not fully 
utilised the development funds allotted to 
them ; if so, the names of such States and 
amount of funds not utilised by them ; 

(b) the reasons for non-utilisation of 
these funds ; and 

(c) the action taken or proposed to be 
taken against such States ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) There has not 
been any shortfall in utilisation by the States 
considered to be backward, of the Plan 
outlays approved for the three years 1969-70, 
1970-71 and 1971-72. 

(b) and (c). Do not arise. 

Inquiry into the Working of H. E. L., 
Bhopal 

2349. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will the 
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have ever 
inquired into the working of Heavy Electri- 
cals (India) Ltd , Bhopal ; and 

(b) if so, the steps taken or proposed to 
be taken to improve the working thereof ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) and (b). Government keep a close watch 


on the working of Heavy Electricals (India) 
Limited, Bhopal. A high powered committee 
under the chairmanship of Shri M. S. 
Pathak, member. Planning Commission also 
recently went into the working of this under- 
taking and made certain recommendations 
to improve the performance of the unit. 
These recommendations have been accepted 
and are being implemented. 

Rapid progress being made by Public 
Sector 

2350. SHRI SHRIKISHAN MODI : 

SHRI P. M. MEHTA : 

Will the Minister of PLANNING be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Public Sector is making 
rapid progress in the country over the plan 
periods ; and 

(b) if so, the total investment upto the 
end of the Fourth Five Year Plan ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) The order of investment in the pub- 
lic sector which was Rs. 1560 crores for the 
First Plan, Rs. 3650 crores for the Second 
Plan, and Rs. 7180 crores for the Third Plan 
is likely to reach around Rs. 13,000 crores for 
the Fourth Five Year Plan period. 

Regional Disparities in per Capita Income 

2352. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE : 
Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether the regional disparities in 
per capita income have widened in 1970-71 
as compared to 1960-61 ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) and (b). There 
is no conclusive statistical evidence to show 
that regional disparities in per capita income 
have widened between 1960-61 and 1969-70 
as comparable estimates of per capita income 
of States and regions on the basis of income 
accrual concept for this period arc not avail- 
able. Also, in view of the wide fluctuations 
in agricultural income which constitutes a 
significant proportion of the total income in 
the country and which occurred from year 
to year during this period owing to varying 



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weather conditions, it will not be appropriate 
to take the two terminal years, 1960-61 and 
1969-70, for the purpose of comparison of 
per capita income of States and regions. 

However, according to the comparable 
estimates as furnished by the Central Statis- 
tical Organisation for the period 1960-61 to 
1964-65 and 1967-68 to 1969-70, the per 
capita net domestic product (at current prices) 
of all the States has increased during this 
period though the rate of increase has not 
been uniform among the various States. 
Similar information for regions within the 
State boundaries is not available. 

The variations in growth rates were in- 
evitable to some extent on account of a 
variety of factors — variation in physio-geo- 
graphical conditions, natural endowments, 
socio-economic situations and infra-structures, 
degree of receptivity to modern technology- 
especially in the field of agriculture, etc. 

Surrender by Dacoits in Madhya Pradesh, 
Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan 

2353. SHRI K. MALLANNA : 

SHRI SHIV KUMAR SHASTRI : 

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) the total number of dacoits surren- 
deied in Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh 
and Rajasthan at the call of Sarvodaya 
Leaders ; and 

(b) the Central assistance made available 
for the formulation and implementation of 
plan for socio-economic development of the 
Chambal ravines ? 

THE DEPUTV MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. I-I. MOHSIN) : (a) Several factors in- 
cluding the efforts made by Sarvodaya Wor- 
kers and the Central and the State Govern- 
ments concerned led to the surrender of 429 
dacoits from the middle of April to 22nd 
July, 1972. 

(b) An integrated development scheme 
including reclamation of the Chambal Ravines 
is being pepared by the Central Government 
in consultation with the Governments of 
Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Uttar Pra- 
desh for the socio-economic development of 
the Chambal Valley area. 

Rare Earth Products 

2354. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will 


the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether there is shortfall in the Rare 
Earths Products in the country due to the 
shortage of caustic soda and steel sheets for 
packing ; and 

(b) if so, the extent to which it has affec- 
ted production in different plants and the 
steps taken to increase the supply of these 
materials ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI): 
(a) and (b). Owing to the shortage of caustic 
soda, there has been a shortfall of approxi- 
mately 8% against the target in the produc- 
tion of rare earths compounds by Indian 
Rare Earths Ltd.# Alwaye during 1971-72. 
As the production was not up to the target, 
the impact of shortage of steel on production 
was negligible. 

To the extent that there is a shortfall in 
the supply of caustic soda by their regular 
suppliers, the Company are making efforts to 
purchase their requirements from other 
sources. 

Setting up of a Heavy Water Plant in 
Kerala 

2355. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will 
the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be 
pleased to refer to the reply given to Un- 
starred question No. 427 on 2nd August, 1972 
regarding the setting up of heavy water plants 
m the country and state : 

(a) whether Government have considered 
the possibility of setting up such a plant in 
Kerala ; and 

(b) if not, the reasons therefor ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF 
SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI) : 
(a) and (b). The economics of a heavy water 
plant is dependent on the availability of an 
Ammonia Plant of a minimum capacity of 
900 tonnes per day. There is no Ammonia 
Plant with such large capacity in Kerala. 



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Large Stocks of Zircon in Hare Earths 
Plants in Kerala 

2356. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will 
the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether the stocks of Zircon in the 
Rare Earths Plants in Keiala have piled up ; 

(b) whether the Government have consi- 
dered the possibilities of any alternative in- 
digenous use of this material ; and 

(c) if so, the steps taken to dispose of 
these stocks ? 

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER 
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF 
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME 
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION 
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER 
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI): 

(a) There is no accumulation ol zircon in 
the mineral sands separation plant of Indian 
Rare Earths Ltd., at Chavara, Kerala. There 
is some accumulation however in their plant 
at Manavalakunchi, Tamil Nadu. 

(b) and (c). Indian Ran Earths Ltd. 
have already set up two plants, one at 
Chavara and the other at Manavalakurichi, 
to process zircon to cater to a wider market. 
It is hoped that with these steps and with 
continued marketing efforts, it will be possi- 
ble to reduce the stocks in spite of a world- 
wide glut of this mineral. 

Conversion of reserved vacancies for SC 
and ST candidates into general vacancies 
in the Planning Commission 

2357. SHRI AMBESH : Will the Minis- 
ter of PLANNING be pleased to state the 
number of posts, category-wise, referred to 
him for conversion into general vacancies, 
during the last three years for want of Sche- 
duled Caste and Scheduled Tribe candidates ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : During the last three 
years five Class I (gazetted) and eleven Glass 
II and Class III (non-gazetted) posts had to 
be de-reserved and declared general for want 
of suitable candidates from amongst the 
Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. 

According to the procedure laid down by 
the Department of Personnel for de-rcscrva- 
tion of reserved vacancies the approval of 
that Department has been obtained in the 


cases mentioned above. The cases are, how- 
ever, being scrutinized afresh. 

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Information and Broadcasting 

2359. SHRI AMBESH : Will the Minis- 
ter of INFORMATION AND BROADCAS- 
TING be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of Class I, II, III and 
IV employees in I and B Ministry ; 

(b) the number of Scheduled Castes and 
Scheduled Tribes employees ; and 

(c) the number of posts, category-wise, 
converted into general vacancies in the last 
three years for want of Scheduled Tribe 
candidates ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) and (b). 



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(a) and (b). 


Category of 

Total Number of 

Number belonging to 

post 

employees 
(as on 1.1.72) 

Scheduled 

Castes 

Scheduled 

Tribes 

I 

997 

23 

5 

II 

2,195 

110 

24 

III 

7,660 

1,027 

247 

IV 

4,597 

1,304 

264 


(c) The information is being collected 
and will be laid on the Table of the House. 

Employment for Youth during Silver 
Jubilee Year 

2360. SHRI P. R. DAS MUNSI : Will 
the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to 
state : 

(a) whether the Prune Minister has stated 
the Silver Jubilee Year as the year of younger 
generation ; 

(b) if so, whether the Prime Minister 
feels the acute problem of unemployed youth 
all over the country ; and 

(c) whether there is any specific pro- 
gramme to give employment to the youth 
immediately ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) to (c). The Prime 
Minister has on several occasions impressed 
upon the youth of the country that the coun- 
try is theirs and that they have a great role 
in its development. Piimc Minister and the Gov- 
ernment are fully aware of the seriousness of 
the unemployment situation in the country. All 
possible steps are being taken to provide inc- 
reasing employment opportunities for the rural 
and urban youth. An allocation of about Rs. 
180 crores has been made in 1972-73 for 
employment programmes. Details arc as 
follows : 

(a) Schemes for educated unemployed : 

(Rs. crores) 

(1) Expansion and improvement of 


quality of primary education 

29.48 

(2) Financial assistance for setting 


up of industries 

6.50 

(3) Rural Engineering surveys 

2.85 

(4) Agro service centres 

0.76 


(5) Expansion of Consumer Co- 
operative Stores 0.50 

(6) Investigation of road projects 0.90 

(7) Setting up of design units for 

rural water supply 0.44 

(b) Schemes for highly qualified 
personnel such as engineers, 
technology and scientists 20.00 


(c) Special employment schemes 
undertaken by State Govern- 
ments on the basis of Central 
assistance amounting to Rs. 
26.5 crores and additional 
resouices mobilisation by 


them 

48.67 

(d) Special employment Schemes 


undertaken by Union Territo- 


ries 

0.50 

(e) Crash scheme for rural employ- 


ment 

50.00 

(f) Drought prone area program- 


mes 

20.00 


Besides, the programme like Small Far- 
mers Development Agencies and Marginal 
Farmers and Agricultural Labour are expect- 
ed to provide increasing employment 
opportunities to the youth in the rural areas. 
In order to enable -technical and other quali- 
fied persons to engage in productive activities, 
the State Bank of India and the other natio- 
nalised banks have been operating schemes of 
special assistance to entrepreneurs to set up 
small industries on their own under which 
liberal financial assistance is given. 

Further, 225 industrially backward dis- 
tricts have been selected to qualify for con- 
cessional finance for promotion of industries 
from the all India term -lending Financial 
Institutions ; out of these, 44 districts have 
also been selected to qualify for an outright 
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10 per cent of the fixed capital investment of 
new industrial units having an investment of 
not more than Rs. 50 lakhs each and also the 
existing units undertaking substantial expan- 
sion of their capacity. Number of districts 
entitled foi 10% subsidy has recently been 
raised to six in backward States and to three 
in other States. These measures are expected 
to stimulate industrial development in the 
backward areas resulting in a large number 
of employment opportunities. 

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Shortage of Specialised Men and Tech- 
nical Hands 

2362. SHRI PRABODH CHANDRA : 
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether there is an acute shortage of 
specialised men and technical hands especi- 
ally in Electronic line in the country ; and 

(b) if so, what steps Government propose 
to take to meet this shortage ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F.H. MOHSIN) : (a) No, Sir. 

(b) Docs not arise. 

cc Chitrahar Programme” over Delhi T.V. 

2363. SHRI B. R. SHUKLA : Will the 
Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- 
CASTING be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the songs and scenes screen- 
ed in the Television in “Chitrahar program- 
me” lack proper planning resulting in presen- 
tation of vulgar and obscene scenes from 
films ; and 

(b) whether Government propose to take 
steps to ensure proper selection of songs and 
scenes or replace it by some other piogramme 
of national urgency ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : (a) No, Sir. 

(b) Chitrahar is a popular entertainment 
programme. There is no proposal to replace 
it by any other programme. 

Creation of a National Hydrological 
Board 

2364. SHRI B. R. SHUKLA : Will the 
Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNOLO- 
GY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the creation of National 
Hydrological Board as a high power inter- 
disciplinary body to tackle the country's water 
resources problem is under the consideration 
of the Government ; and 



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(b) if so, the reasons for creation of such 
a board ? 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA- 
NIAM) : (a) and (b). The creation of a 
National Hydrological Board is under consi- 
deration of the Government. 

Rent Restriction Laws in Chandigarh 

2365. SHRI AMAR NATH VIDYAL- 
ANKAR : Will the Minister of HOME 
AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Chandigarh is the only big 
town where exemption from all Rent Restric- 
tion Laws continues to be granted ; 

(b) whether representations have been 
made on behalf of Chandigarh citizens from 
time to time requesting for the imposition of 
Rent Restriction Laws in Chandigarh as app- 
lied elsewhere ; and 

(c) whether Government has come to 
any conclusion by now and if so, the decision 
taken in the matter ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H MOHSIN) : (a) Rent Control Act is 
in forc< in most of the states and Chandigarh 
is the only big town exempted from rent 
restriction laws. 

(b) Yes. 

(c) The matter is under consideration. 

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Opening of New Telephone Exchanges In 
Calcutta 

2367. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Will 
the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether it is planned to open thirteen 
new Telephone Exchanges in Calcutta ; 

(b) if so, the number of additional new 
lines which will be provided thereby ; and 

(c) whether the proposed new exchanges 

will have cross-bar equipment of American 
design ? • 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
Yes Sir. It is proposed to open fifteen new 
telephone exchanges in Calcutta during the 
next 5 to 6 Years. Equipment for these have 
already been allotted. 

(b) These, new exchanges will add 51,800 
lines to the system. 

(c) 14 of the new exchanges will have 
pentaconta crossbar equipment manufactured 
by M/s. Indian Telephone Industries. One 
new exchange will have step by step equip- 
ment manufactured by M/s. Indian Tele- 
phone Industries. 

Alleged harassment of Persons by Police 
who Volunteer themselves to take Victim 
of Road Accident to Hospital 

2368. SHRIMATI SAVITRI SHYAM : 
Will the Minister* of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether persons who volunteer them- 
selves to carry the victim of road and other 
accidents in Delhi to the nearest hospital or 
provide immediate information to the Police 
are subjected to harassments and making 
forced statement by the Police ; 

(b) if so, whether Government propose to 
issue instructions to the police that in no case 
such persons should be harassed detained or 
forced to sign a statement ; 

(c) whether Government also propose to 



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make necessary amendment in the law so that 
the first informer may not be compelled to 
give his witness in the court ; and 

(d) whether Government propose to ins- 
titute awards and prizes to them who 
volunteer their services in such cases ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) No. Only one com- 
plaint of this nature has come to notice since 
1971. 

(b) The Delhi Police have already issued 
instructions to all concerned to avoid any 
harassment to such persons. 

(c) No. However, Delhi Police have 
issued orders that if such persons are not eye- 
witnesses, their affidavits be obtained for 
tendering in court and they need not be 
called for evidence. 

« 

(d) No. 

Disposal of Properties by Former Rulers 

2369. SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY : 
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether the inalienability clause in 
relation to the palaces and properties of 
former Rulers is being revoked to enable them 
to dispose of their properties ; and 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. C. PANT) : (a) and (b). Government 
of India had informed the former Rulers as 
early as in December, 1954 that it was for 
them to decide whether it would be in order 
to dispose of by sale or otherwise any of the 
items recognized by the Government as private 
properties. 

The former Ruler of Mysore has asked 
for permission to dispose of three of his 
palaces as in the inventory of private pro- 
perties these were shown as inalienable and 
to be preserved for use by the Ruler and his 
successors. The whole matter is under 
examination in consultation with the Govern- 
ment of Mysore. 

Trank Telephone Services in Andhra 

Pradesh 

2370. SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY : 
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 


be pleased to state : 

(a) the steps being taken during the 
current year to improve the Trunk Telephone 
services in Andhra Pradesh ; 

(b) whether the proposed Microwave 
system from Madras via Tirupati to Bangalore 
will link up Chittoor town en route ; and 

(c) when this scheme is likely to be 
executed ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
Over a hundred trunk switch-boards have been 
made available this year to Andhra P & T 
Circle for installation in the Circle. Further 
allotments of trunk switch-boards are being 
made as planned for improving the trunk 
service. 

The Secunderabad trunk exchange is being 
shifted to a more spacious location. Another 
large trunk exchange is under installation at 
Kakinada. Subscribers Trunk Dialling has 
been planned on the following routes : 

(i) Guntur-Vijayawada, 

(ii) Hydcrabad-Bombay, 

(iii) Hyderabad-Vijayawada, 

(iv) Hyderabad-Madras, 

(v) Madras- Vijayawada, 

( vi) Madras-T i rupathi , 

These arc under various stages of installation/ 
planning. STD service on the Guntur-Vijaya- 
wada route is expected to be commissioned 
within a year. 

(b) No, Sir. 

(c) The microwave system linking Madras 
to Mangalore and Madras to Tirupati which 
form part of Bombay-Mangalore-Madras and 
Mangalore-Trivandrum microwave routes are 
likely to be progressively commissioned from 
1974-75 onwards. 

Telephone Division at Chittoor 

2371. SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY : 
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether there is a need and justifica- 
tion for setting up a separate Telephones 
Division at Chittoor ; 

(b) if so, the steps taken in this regard ; 

and 



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Written Answers 


306 


(c) if not, when Government propose to 
undertake to set up the Division ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
No, Sir. 

(b) Does not arise. 

(c) The proposal will be considered when 
the work load of Chittoor Telephone System 
reaches the prescribed norm. 

Investment in Industry 

2372. SHRI S. R. DAMANI : Will the 
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT 
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be 
pleased to state : 

(a) the reasons why investment in industry 
has not taken place according to the Fourth 
Plan projections resulting in industrial stagna- 
tion : 

(b) what are the existing policies that 
need modification to improve the climate 
without whittling down the concept of growth 
with social justice ; and 

(c) how soon these changes will be brought 
about ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) to (c). The trend of investments in 
industry has been reviewed on the occasion 
of the mid-term appraisal of the Fourth Plan. 
It was found that there have been apprecia- 
ble short-falls in the public sector largely due 
to slippages in the schedules of construction. 
Precise figures relating to private investments 
in the organised sector are not available. 
While the levels of the capital raised in the 
market and the disbursement of funds by the 
term lending institutions have shown increasing 
trends, the total investments in the private 
sector have so far remained below the levels 
envisaged in the plan. However, there are 
indications that conditions are generally 
conducive to accelerated development in the 
future, as shown by the general level of 
demand for industrial goods and the broad 
Picture of investible resources for industry. 
The licensing policy has already been oriented 
to provide for liberal licensing and to promote 
growth in a broad based manner. The num- 
ber of letters of intent and licences issued has 
been substantially stepped up. The approvals 
for foreign collaboration, where necessary, and 


for the import of capital goods have been 
speeded up. Government has also announced 
certain liberalisations for the fuller utilisation 
of existing capacities. The investment and 
production trends in industry are under 
continuous watch by Government. 

Permits for Foreign Tourists who visit 
Darjeeling 

2373. SHRI S. G. SAMANTA : Will the 
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to 
state whether foreign tourists are required to 
obtain permits to visit Darjeeling but are not 
required to do so when they visit places like 
Srinagar in Kashmir and if so, the reasons 
therefor ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : Darjeeling has been 
declared as restricted area under the Foreigners 
(Restricted Areas) Order, 1963, and as such 
foreigners desiring to visit that place are 
rcquir^l to obtain permits. According to the 
requirements of security, certain areas and 
places in Jammu and Kashmir have also 
similarly been declared as restricted or pro- 
hibited areas in which Srinagar has not been 
included. 

Purchase of Industrial Plants through 
NSSIC on Rupee Payment 

2374. SHRI DALIP SINGH: Will the 
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT 
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether several proposals for purchase 
through National Small Scale Industries Cor- 
poration of Industrial Plants from rupee- 
payment countries like U.S.S.R are pending 
only for want of funds ; and 

(b) if so, the time by which the funds 
would be made available for the purpose ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) Yes, Sir. Certain cases of that kind are 
pending with the National Small Industries 
Cdrporation Ltd. 

(b) NSIC is resuming issue of orders on a 
restricted scale consistent with the present 
availability of funds and national priorities. 



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Written Answers 


308 


bsae of Licence for setting up of Tractor 
Factory at Pratapgarh (U. P.) 

2375. SHRI DINESH SINGH : Will the 
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT 
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether the party to whom a Letter 
of Intent was issued to set up a Tractor 
Factory at Pratapgarh, U. P. ha9 taken steps 
to establish the Factory ; 

(b) if so, when is it likely to be com- 
pleted ; and 

(c) if not, the action being taken by 
Government in the matter ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
(a) The party had submitted the draft colla- 
boration agreement whick. they propose to 
enter into with their foreign principals. The 
terms of collaboration have been approved. 
The party had also submitted their applica- 
tion for import of capital goods which has 
been considered by Government. 

(b) and (c). The project is likely to be 
completed in three to four year’s time. 

Transfer of P & T Employees from 
Trichur Telephone Exchange 

2376. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN : 

SHRI M. K. KRISHNAN : 

Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) the number of employees of the 
Posts and Telegraphs Department (Telephones) 
who have been transferred from Trichur 
(Kerala) Exchange recently ; and 

(b) the reasons for their transfers ? 

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) 
Five. 

(b) On administrative grounds in the 
interest of service. 

Meeting of Gronp of Ministers of 
“Production” Ministries 

2377. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will 
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO- 
LOGY be pleased to state the important 
decisions arrived at the first meeting of the 


newly set-up Group of Ministers of ,f Produc- 
tion Ministries*' to clear the hurdles in the 
industrial growth ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- 
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) : 
The Honourable Member presumably refers 
to the informal meetings of Ministers for 
Planning, Steel and Mines, Railways, Petro- 
leum and Chemicals, Industrial Development 
and Foreign Trade. This is an informal 
group. Specific dicisions are taken in the 
concerned Ministries and, when necessary, in 
the Cabinet or in the concerned Committee 
of the Cabinet. 

Amount allotted to Kerala for providing 
Jobs to Educated Unemployed 

2378. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI THAN- 
KAPPAN : Will the Minister of PLANNING 
be pleased to state : 

(a) the total amount allotted to the State 
Government of Kerala in order to implement 
the scheme for providing jobs to the educated 
unemployed during the year 1971-72 and 
1972-73 ; year-wise ; and 

(b) how much money has so far been 
spent thereon ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING ( SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) and (b). The 

details of the amount allocated and finally 
released to the Government of Kerala for 
schemes for educated unemployed initiated 
in 1971-72 and 1972-73 are indicated below :- 

(Rs. lakhs) 

1971-72 1972-73 

Scheme Amount Amount Amount 

allocated released allocated 

Expansion and 
improvement of 


primary education 
Assistance for 

15.86 

12.20 

97.86 

setting up in- 
dustries 

48.00 

15.70 

35.00 

Rural engineer- 
ing survey 

0.95 

Nil 

5.43 

Advance action 




on investigation , 
of road works 

0.85 

0 85 

2.55 

Rural water supply 

0 70 

Nil 

1.20 


66.36 

28.75 

142.04 



309 Re. Motion for Adjnmt. 


SRAVANA 23, 1894 (SAJCA) Re. Motion for Atfjnmt. 310 


Releases for 1972-73 will be made by the 
Government of India to the State Government 
depending on the progress of the schemes. 

Proposals made by North Eastern Council 
for extension of Railways from Dharma- 
nagar to Agartala 

2379. SHRI BIREN DUTTA : Will the 
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to 
* state : 

(a) whether North Eastern Council has 
discussed the problem of extension of Railway 
from Dharmanagar to Agartala for integrated 
development of that region ; 

(b) whether any proposal has been made 
by the Council for improving road transport 
system in that region ; and 

(c) if so, the main points of the propo- 
sals ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) to (c). With the 
enforcement of the North Eastern Council 
Act, 1971 as from 1st August, 1972, the 
Council has come into existence only from 
that date. The Council has not met so far. 

12.03 hrs. 

RE : MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT 

SHRI S M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) : I 
rise on a point of order ( Interruptions ). 

MR. SPEAKER : What is the point of 
order ? 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I rise on a 
point of order under Rule 376 (2) . . . 

MR. SPEAKER : The Speaker does not 
normally announce his decision in the House 
itself ; he conveys it to the office that such and 
such a matter has not been admitted. Please 
do not arise it in this manner in the House. 
Why do you go beyond the convention of the 
House ? ( Interruptions ) It connot be allowed 
as an adjournment motion. I have already 
conveyed it to hon. Members that it cannot 
be allowed as an adjournment motion. If 
there is a dispute between the Corporation 
of Bombay and the labour, how can it come 
here ? At the same time, broad questions 
cannot be the subject-matter of an adjournment 
motion, They can table other motions for 
discussion, but they cannot discuss it through 
an adjournment motion. Adjournment 


motion has its own rules about it. (Inter* 
ruptions ). As hon. Members know, broad 
questions of policy cannot be discussed through 
an adjournment motion. There have been a 
number of rulings in this House before also 
that lock-outs, strikes etc. cannot come 
through an adjournment motion . . . 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE* On a point 
of order . . . 

MR. SPEAKER : I am sorry it cannot 
be allowed as an adjournment motion. 

SHRI K.D. MALAVIYA (Domariaganj) : 
I want to make a very serious effort to under- 
stand what this uneasiness from the Opposi- 
tion side is about . . . (Interruptions) 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I rise on a 
point of order . . . 

MR. SPEAKER : So far as the Speaker’s 
ruling is concerneg, there can be no point 
of order on the question of admitting the 
adjournment motion. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Kindly see 
the business before the House. I am raising 
the point of order under the rule 367 (2) 
which says : 

“A point of order may be raised in 

relation to the business before the House 

at the moment.” 

At the moment . . . 

MR. SPEAKER : I have not allowed it. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Kindly hear 
me, Sir. I am not questioning your ruling. 
Under Direction 56 of the Directions by the 
Speaker, an adjournment motion always gets 
precedence over a calling-attention-notice. 
As you are aware, there is a strike going on 
in Bombay, and this is because of the failure 
of Government to evolve a formula for mini- 
mum bonus for the employees or workers . . . 

MR. SPEAKER : Let him not bring 
in the subject through a point of order . . . 

SHRI S M. BANERJEE : Further, not 
more than one matter shall be discussed, and 
the motion shall be restricted to specific 
matter of recent occurrence . . . 

MR. SPEAKER : Order, order. He can 
see me in my chamber. I am prepared to 
discuss, but not in the House. ( Interruptions ). 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : (Alipore) : 
This is a vital matter in which Central 



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Re. Motion for Ajjnmt. 


312 


[Shri Indrajit Gupta] 

Government policy is involved* That is why 
I want to raise it. 

MR. SPEAKER : The question is about 
the employees of the Corporation of 
Bombay. Flow can it come in Parliament ? 

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA 
(Begusarai) s The failure of the Central 
Government is established in regard to the 
evolution of a bonus formula ( Interruptions ). 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Tomorrow 
if the port and dock workers go on strike 
in Bombay, it will have to be raised here. 

MR. SPEAKER : So far as this question 
is concerned, I cannot give my consent to 
the adjournment motion. 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- 
ARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI R£J BAHADUR) : 
May I request that when you are stan- 
ding, Sir, they must not keep standing ? 
(Interruptions). 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Why did 
he stand up when you are standing ? 

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SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS rose— 

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Raja- 
pur) : On a point of order. 


MR. SPEAKER : No. They can see me 
in my chamber. But the ruling on the 
admissibility of the adjournment motion can 
not be discussed in the House. We can meet 
and discuss. We can find another way of 
bringing this issue here, but so far as this mat- 
ter is concerned, an adjournment motion can 
not come under this. You can find other 
ways of bringing the issue here. # 

PROF. MADFIU DANDAVATE : I 
want to know whether raising a point of 
order is out of order. 

MR. SPEAKER : I am not allowing it. 

I am not preparrd to hear him on that. 
How can they bring in an adjournment motion 
over a matter over which I cannot decide ? 

( Interruptions ). I have already explained it to 
Prof. Dandavate. 

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : I am 
rasing another issue. When I met you in your 
chamber, I had said something about what 
is happening in the city of Bombay, how the 
autonomy of the Corporation is being 
destroyed. I am not raising that issue here. 
In my adjournment motion, the failure of the 
Central Government to evolve an agreed 
formula in regaid to bonus formally in con- 
sultation with the centra] trade unions has 
resulted in a situation where there may be 
strikes throughout the country . . . 

MR. SPEAKER : No, no. 

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : This 
is an all India Issue. The Bonus Review 
Committee is within the purview of the 
Central Government . . (Interruptions) 

MR. SPEAKER : All I say is that, if the 
Minister wants he may come out with a 
statement. If you so desire, this matter can 
be brought up through call attention motion 
or something, not J through adjournment 
motion. . (Interruptions). Mr. Khadilkar has 
come and 1 shall explain it to him. They 
came through an adjournment motion which 
I have not accepted. The Opposition leaders, 
Shri Indrajit Gupta, Prof. Dandavate. . . . 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : All the oppo- 
sition people . . (Interruptions.) 

MR. SPEAKER : They said that some 
strike was going on. 

SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : We are not 
averse to a discussion. The main question 
is whether it could be discussed m the form 



313 Re. Motion for Atfjnmt. SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SARA) Re. Motion for Adjnmt. 314 


of an adjournment motion. You very rightly 
said that it could not be discussed that way. 
Therefore we can discuss it in the Business 
Advisory Committee. 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : You want 
the strike to continue ? 

MR. SPEAKER : You bring in matters 
which are not within our jurisdiction. 
.... ( Interruptions .) 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : If it is a 
matter which does not concern the Central 
Government, please do not ask us to send call 
attention notices. What is the logic ? If we 
can raise it through other motions, we can 
raise it through adjournment motion also. 

MR. SPEAKER : It is not a matter for 
adjournment motion. ... {Interruptions). Mr. 
Khadilkar. 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- 
KAR) : I should like to know what is the 
demand ? . . . . ( Interruptions ) 

MR. SPEAKER : The demand is this, 
I have not allowed the adjournment motion 
that came. But they say this concerns the 
Central Government and the strike is there 
between the Bombay Corporation and its 
employees. The second question is the question 
of bonus, which they say is an all-India ques- 
tion. In the motion that came to me day be- 
fore yesterday from Mr. Dandavate, only the 
strike was mentioned, which I did not accept. 

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : That 
is not correct. 

MR. SPEAKER : They have added this 
question of bonus today, over which the 
Government of India has not yet decided. I 
have not accepted the adjournment motion 
but I wish you collect the facts about it and 
come out with a statement. 

SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra) : I do 
not think hence forward any member of the 
Opposition is going to be able to convince 
you about when an adjournment motion 
should or should not be tabled. Therefore I 
suggest a drastic change of procedure which 
will remove the discretion from the hands of 
the Speaker about giving consent to an 
adjournment motion. 

MR. SPEAKER : I am not bound to 
tell the House the reasons. If the hon. mem- 
bers meet me in my chamber I can tell 


them. I convey it to them through the 
secretariat. They tell them the reasons. 
(Interruptions). Every day we discuss several 
matters through calling attention motions, under 
Rule 377 and in so many other ways, which 
I allow. But an adjournment motion must 
come within the rules prescribed for it. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond 
Harbour) : This does come. 

MR. SPEAKER : It does not come. 
You get so many opportunities in the past 
members did not get it. 

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Before 
the Labour Minister makes a statement, we 
want a categorical formulation. With great 
respect to you, may I say, I have not raised 
merely the issue of the Bombay strike ? What 
I have raised is the failure of the Union 
Government to evolve an acceptable bonus 
formula, acceptable to all Central Trade 
Union Organisations, resulting in country 
wide discontent amongst industrial labour, as 
evidenced by the strike of 1.50 lakh workers 
in Bombay. 

SHRI R. S. PANDEY (Raj nandgaon) : 
You have ruled out the adjournment motion. 
You further said that unless a calling atten- 
tion is there, the House cannot discuss the 
Bombay strike. I want to know whv you are 
asking the minister to make a statement. I do 
not challenge your ruling but when there is 
no business before the House so far as the 
stiike in Bombay is concerned — there is neither 
an adjournment motion nor at calling attention 
now-why are you asking the minister to make 
a statement ? You have ruled out the adjourn- 
ment motion on the strike because it is a 
State subject. About bonus also, there is no 
calling attention. ( Interruptions ). 

MR. SPEAKER : My exclusion of the 
adjournment motion does not deprive them 
of their right to have some information 
through other motions. . [Interruptions). So far 
as this adjournment motion is concerned, 
that is excluded. They can get information 
through Calling Attention or some other way. 
My disallowing the adjournment motion docs 
not mean that they cannot get it through 
other means. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : How ? 

SHRI JAGANNATH RAO JOSHI : 
(Shajapur) : Is the Minister making a state- 
ment or not ? . . (Interruptions) 

MR. SPEAKER : So far as matters con- 



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AUGUST 16, 19?2 


Re* Motion for Adjnmt , 


316 


315 

[Mr. Speaker] 

cermng bonus are concerned, which come 
within the jurisdiction of the Government of 
India, he may make a statement later on. 

SHRI N. K. P. SALVE (Bihar) : Sir, I 
rise on a point of order. When an adjourn- 
ment motion was given notice of, you have 
ruled that it is out of order. Is it then pro- 
per, or would it be under the rules for the 
chair to ask the Minister to make a statement 
even on facts ? The question was raised under 
rule 377. The lules are absolutely clear in 
the matter. . ( Interruptions ) 

MR. SPEAKER : Leaving aside rule 377 
if I do not allow an adjournment motion, I 
can even otherwise ask the Minister to make 
a statement if hon. Members are agitated 
over a particular issue. On the question of 
bonus they have a right to ask the Minister to 
give some information. But I have made it 
clear that it would not be* an adjournment 
motion. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Sir, on a 
point of oidcr. I am sorry to say that what 
you have said is not correct. Under rule 377 
I wanted to raise a matter. You, in your 
wisdom, disallowed it. Now you are saying 
“I do not allow the adjournment motion ; I 
will ask the Minister to make a statement’*. 

MR. SPEAKER : Why should I not ask 
the Minister to make a statement?.. 

(. Interruptions ). 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : What is the 
position of the Minister ? Are the Congress 
Members advising him not to make a state- 
ment. . ( Interruptions ) 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU 2 The 
INTUC people are pressurizing him not to 
make a statement. . ( Interruptions .) 

MR. SPEAKER : I have said that it is 
up to the Minister to make a statement. 

SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (Muvattupuzha): 
Sir, on a point of clarification. The only rule 
under which the Minister can make a statement 
is rule 372 . . ( Interruptions ). 

The point that I want to make is . 
{Interruptions.) I am not going to yield ; I am 
also entitled to make a submission. I shall 
not be cowed down that way. The only rule 
under which the Minister is to make a state- 
ment is Rule 372. It says : 

"A Statement may be made by a 
Minister on a matter of public importan- 


ce with the consent of the Speaker but 
no question shall be asked at the time 
the statement is made.” 

The question is, whether the Minister is seek- 
ing the consent of the Speaker or whether 
the Speaker is directing the Minister to make 
a statement. The Minister may seek the con- 
sent of the Speaker and the Speaker may give 
his consent. I want to know whether the 
Minister is seeking the consent of the Speaker 
or the Speaker is directing the Minister to 
make a statement. According to me, the 
speaker cannot direct the Minister to make a 
statement (Interruptions), 

SHRI JAGDISH CHANDRA DIXIT 
(Sitapur) : I rise on a point of order. 

The question that has been agitated before 
the House is that of bonus. For that, we can 
have a discussion under Rule 193 on some 
day because we would have to go into the 
pros and cons of everything. But then, just 
forgetting your ruling. . {Interruptions). Why 
are you afraid of going to the field, talking 
to the persons, looking into the pros and cons 
. . (Interruptions) . My demand is that let us 
examine the question of bonus on some day 
and let us devote half an hour on it. There- 
fore; I stress that the demand for adjourn- 
ment motion is neither desirable nor necessary 
(Interruptions.) 

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : As you 
desired I should say something, two points 
were raised. Firstly, it was regarding the 
Bombay strike. As you are well aware, the 
present scheme of bonus docs not cover the 
local authority. The question of the Bombay 
strike will be dealt with by the appropriate 
Government, that is, the State Government. 
This House has no authority so far as the 
constitutional position is concerned. 

Regarding the question of bonus in gene- 
ral, as you are aware, I have replied on 
several occasions that the entire scheme is for 
review before the Committee. The Committee 
is seized of the matter. If somebody raises a 
question as to whether the Committee will 
give an interim report or that it will give a 
final report, what is the position about bonus 
scheme, if there is notice, I will state the 
position. At the present juncture, I cannot 
say anything because the Committee is seized 
of the matter so far as the bonus scheme is 
concerned. ( Interruptions ) 

Some Hon, Members then left the House. 



317 


Failure of 


SR AVAN A 25, 1894 (SA/TA) Govt, to complete Farakka 318 


12.35 hrs. 

GALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF 
URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE 

Reported failure of the Government to 
complete Farakka Barrage as scheduled 

MR. SPEAKER : We now take up the 
call-attention. Mr. Samar Guha. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA (Contai) : Before 
I call the attention of the Minister, I want 
to tell you, Sir, that I am in agreement with 
the members of Opposition to leave the 
House. But since the Farakka issue is a very 
vital and important one, affecting a large 
section of our nation, while associating myself 
wholly with the Opposition’s decision to leave 
the House, I have to remain in the House to 
call the attention of the Minister and the 
House. 

I call the attention of the hon. Minister 
of Irrigation and Power to the following mat- 
ter of urgent public importance and request 
that he may make a statement thereon : — 

“Repoited failure of the Government 
to complete Farakka Barrage project as 
scheduled and assuring discharge of ade- 
quate quantum of Ganga water through 
the feeder canal into the river Hooghly.” 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND PO- 
WER (SHRI B N. KUREEL) : The main 
objective of the Farakka Barrage Project is to 
provide regulated upland discharges into the 
Bhagiiathi-Hooghly system in order to bring 
about impiovcmcnt in the navigability of the 
Hooghly for the preservation of the Port of 
Calcutta. For this a barrage across Ganga 
and a Feeder Canal to carry the waters to 
Bhagirathi and other ancillary works were 
sanctioned in 1960. Expenditure sanction 
was given in 1962. The barrage work was 
started early in 1963. Barrage and Canal 
works were originally scheduled to be com- 
pleted by June, 1971. The present position 
is that Farakka Barrage and most of the an- 
cillary woiks were completed by July, 1971. 
The rail-cum-road bridge over it has also been 
completed and this has provided rail and 
load links to North Bengal . . . 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : We have already 
?ol a copy of the statement. Why should he 
read out the whole statement, Sir ? 

MR. SPEAKER : The statement has al- 
ready been sent to the members. It may be 


Barrage (C. A,) 

taken as read. The hon. Member may ask 
the question. 

SHRI B, N. KUREEL: I beg to lay 
the Statement on the Table of the House. 

Statement 

The main objective of the Farakka Bar- 
rage Project is to ptovide regulated upland 
discharges into the Bhagirathi-Hooghly system 
in order to bring about improvement in the 
navigability of the Hooghly for the preserva- 
tion of the Port of Calcutta. For this a barrage 
across Ganga and a Feeder Canal to carry 
the waters to Bhagirathi and other ancillary 
works were sanctioned in 1960. Expenditure 
sanction was given in 1962. The barrage 
work was started early in 1963. Barrage and 
Canal works were originally scheduled to be 
completed by June, 1971. The present posi- 
tion is that Farakka Barrage and most of the 
ancillary works were completed by July, 1971. 
The rail-rum-road bridge over it has also 
been completed and this has provided rail 
and road links to North Bengal. 

The Feeder Canal is one of the largest and 
difficult constructions in the world having a 
bed width greater than even the International 
Suez Canal in Egypt. The work on the canal 
was started in 1965 and has spread over a 
number of working seasons some of which 
were short owing to early rains and sustained 
prolonged floods. There was a great labour 
unrest since 1969, both in contractors’ organi- 
sations as well as in departmental work, 
affecting the pace of work. Notwithstanding 
the above, more than 80% of the work of the 
Feeder Canal has been done and the balance 
is expected to be completed by December, 
1973, we hope to let down the Ganga water 
through the canal early in 1974. 

Regarding the discharge of adequate 
quantum of Ganga water through the Feeder 
Canal into river Hooghly, a statement is laid 
on the Tabic of the House. 

Statement re. Farakka Project and Port of Calcutta 

Necessity for Headwaters Flow 

1. The Port of Calcutta is situated on the 
Lower Hooghly at a distance of 128 miles from 
the sea. The navigation conditions of the 
Lower Hooghly are progressively deteriorating 
and many famous engineers have been think- 
ing of how best to check this tendency. Sir 
Arthur Cotton suggested, a century and a 
half back, the construction of a barrage 
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Government of India constituted a Committee 
under the Chairmanship of Shri Man Singh 
to examine matters relating to the improve- 
ment of headwater supply of the river 
Hooghly. Later on the subject was further 
studied by a number of engineers including 
Dr. Hensen of Germany and is even now 
being vigorously pursued. Hydraulic model 
studies have also been employed. 

2. It has been agreed that the main rea- 
son of deterioration is the absence of adequate 
and continuous flow in Bhagirathi due to 
siltation of the river at the off-take point 
from the Ganga. It is stated that Ganga was 
originally flowing till four centuries back 
along Bhagirathi- Hooghly and due to being 
silted up at the mouth of Bhaghirathi, Ganga 
is now flowing through Padma, which used 
to be a minor branch of the Ganga. The 
flow in Bhagirathi is, therefore, confined to a 
small discharge and this too Vor a maximum 
of 60 days in a year at the time of highest 
floods in Ganga. 

3. The necessity for a barrage across 
Ganga to ensure augmentation of headwaters 
has been thus accepted and even during the 
Partition of India, this fact played a large 
part in fixing the boundaries between India 
and the then Pakistan in this region. 

4. The only question that remained was 
with regard to the quantum of water that 
should be let down and its duration. Shri Man 
Singh’s Expert Committee Report on the 
river Hooghly and the improvement of its 
headwater supply submitted in October 1952, 
fixed the discharge of the feeder canal from 
Ganga at 20,000 cusecs (page 56 of the Report). 
They observed further : — 

Period 


January to 15th March 
15th March to 15th May 
1 5th May to 20th June 
20th June to 30th June 
July to September 


“Different opinions have been expres- 
sed regarding the quantity of water which 
should be introduced into the Hooghly. 
That there is an optimum quantity cannot 
be gainsaid. Larger quantities will tend 
to erode the banks, bring down a heavy 
charge of silt which would tend to create 
difficulties in the tidal reaches, while too 
little would not reinforce the ebb cur- 
rent in the tidal reaches to the extent 
which would enable it to carry back the 
silt brought up by the tidal inflow. Small- 
ness of the scale of the models made it 
difficult for the Research Station at Kha- 
dakvasla to determine the minimum dry 
whether discharge required to maintain 
the river in regime.* * 

5. Further studies were carried out and 
finally the Ganga Barrage Project Report 
was prepared in 1959. The cost was estima- 
ted at Rs. 56.40 crores. When the Project 
came up for approval. Planning Commission 
observed as under : — 

“The Planning Commission had ac- 
cepted the Project as being necessary for 
the preservation of the Port of Calcutta 
besides its other benefits, on the basis of 
general consensus of technical opinion 
that the scheme was technically sound, 
even in spite of the full suspension of 
the withdrawals in periods during March- 
May.” 

The Ganga Barrage Project, which was 
sanctioned by Government of India in April 
I960, took note of the various view points 
with regard to duration of head discharge 
and made provision for the operation cycle 
of moderated discharges at Kalna as follows : — 

Proposed flow at Kalna 
(Cusecs) 

40.000 to 20,000 

Upto 20,000 (as available) 

20.000 to 40,000 

40.000 to 60,000 

Steady rise from 60,000 

upto say, 140,000 and to 

80.000 towards the end of 

September. 


October 

November 

December 


80.000 to 40,000 

40.000 



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It was also further observed that “The 
suggested Operational Programme, based on 
the available hydrological data, will have to 
be further examined and improved with the 
help of more data that will be subsequently 
collected and will be tested at the Central 
Water and Power Research Station, Poona, 
for the optimum effects on the bars and cros- 
sings in the Lower Hooghly.** 

6. Ganga Barrage was taken up for cons- 
truction and the Barrage was completed by 
July 1971 and has been providing rail and 
road links to North Bengal since then. Most 
of the work on the Feeder Canal has been 
done and it is expected to be completed by 
December 1973 and it is programmed to let 
the Ganga water through Feeder Canal into 
Bhagirathi early in 1974. It may be noted 
from the Operational Programme that it was 
proposed to run the Feeder Canal at 40,000 
cusecs practically for ten months and for two 
months — mid-March to mid-May — with lesser 
discharges, upto 20,000 cusecs. 

7. In the last few years, controversy 
regarding the quantum of water to be let 
down into the Feeder Canal during the lean 
months of mid-March to mid-May started. 
There are two distinct schools of thought. 
One group of engineers feel that even for the 
two lean months, full discharge of 40,000 
cusecs should be allowed to flow as otherwise 
the deterioration of the Port cannot be check- 
ed. Another group feel that in the two 
months the dischaige in the Canal can be 
reduced without affecting the health of the 
Port. They argue that in view of drainage 
congestion, the need to flush Bhagirathi head 
by reversing the flow at Jangipur and possibi- 
lity of excess bed sediment movement going 
down to Port area, the flow in the lean 
months should be reduced as envisaged at 
the time of the sanction. 

The best way of settling the controversy 
would be to make observations on the proto- 
type, that is, field observations. 

8. Ganga carries a flow of 50,000 to 
60,000 cusecs during lean months of mid- 
March to mid-May, the quantity varying 
from year to year. This water is contributed 
mostly by Ghagra, Gandak and Kosi, as 
other rivers have little discharge during the 
lean months. Even main Ganga and Yamuna 
do not contribute as irrigation projects on 
those rivers as at Hard war, Narora and Taje- 
wala and Okhla (Delhi) developed several 
decades ago utilise the waters of these tribu- 


taries. Ghagra has two tributaries, Sarda and 
Karnali. Extensive irrigation has been deve- 
loped on Sarda since 1927. It was found 
later that the Sarda system did not have 
sufficient water to supply water to fields. Most 
of the canals were running empty and many 
foreign and Indian engineers and economists 
observed that the Sarda system required rein- 
forcement. Therefore, a scheme was sanctioned 
in 1968 which supplies water from the other 
tributary of the same river, and the project was 
named as Sarda ‘Assist*. No new canal system 
is to be constructed but only a feeder canal to 
supply water to the various canals constructed 
several decades ago. 

On Gandak, as a result of several repre- 
sentations and investigations, an irrigation 
project ‘Gandak Project* was approved in 
principle in 1958 to provide irrigation in 
Bihar, Nepal and U. P. and is under cons- 
truction. t 

Similarly on Kosi, an irrigation project 
was sanctioned in 1956 to irrigate 15 lakh of 
acres on Eastern Canal. This is besides 
Western Kosi Canal, which was under discus- 
sion with Nepal all along and undertaken 
only recently. 

As other tributaries of Ganga do not 
contribute much to Ganga flow in lean 
months of mid-March to mid-May, develop- 
ment of irrigation projects on these will not 
have any impact on the flow in Ganga during 
the two months. These projects essentially 
supply water during Kharif season and during 
rabi season where stored waters are available. 

Thus, it is to be noted that prior to sanc- 
tion of Farakka Barrage Project, some pro- 
jects were approved to supply irrigation 
waters during the lean months. As these 
projects have not yet come into full use, the 
flow in lean months in Ganga is not yet 
affected. 

9. Having regard to the doubts expressed 
by some people. Government of India wish to 
reiterate that Calcutta Port will not be allow- 
ed to deteriorate and all the modern techni- 
ques of adequate supply of headwater dis- 
charge, and optimum dredging of tidal prism, 
where necessary, river training measures etc., 
will be fully utilised to ensure the health of 
the great Port of Calcutta. 

10. A start on the extensive collection of 
prototype data has to be made from the com- 
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continue for a further period of ten years. 
These pertain to the river Bhagirathi, tidal 
reach above Calcutta, and reach from Cal- 
cutta to Mayapur and the river beyond. 
These observations will include, taking cross 
sections at frequent intervals, discharge mea- 
surements, hydrographic survey of the river 
throughout the year, analysis of bed load 
samples, collection of tidal data, velocity and 
silt charge observations, salinity observations, 
daily depths on bars and crossings, shifting 
of navigation tracks, dredging data and inves- 
tigations with sand trap across the river near 
Calcutta for the assessment of sediment trans- 
port. These will be organised by a study 
team under the auspices of the Ministry of 
Shipping and Transport, who will co-ordinate 
the works of various agencies like the Cal- 
cutta Port Commissioners, Centra] Water and 
Power Research Station at Khadakvasla, etc. 
State of West Bengal will ^Iso participate in 
this. 

11. Results of model tests in Central 
Water and Power Research Station at Poona 
show that the discharges given in the original 
report of 1959 are found to be satisfactory 
but the model tests by the Calcutta Port 
Commissioners indicated the requirements of 
higher discharges at 40,000 cusecs during 
lean months. Due to difficulties of simulation, 
model tests, specially for large rivers, have 
serious limitations in giving any precise quan- 
titative answers to problems and can, at best, 
be indicative. It is difficult to quantify precisely 
at this stage as to what is the discharge re- 
quired to meet the needs of Calcutta Port. 
The exact requirements of water are best 
determined by observations on the prototype 
itself. It is, therefore, decided to adopt the 
following procedure for operation of the 
Farakka Project : 

(a) For five years after water is let down 
into the Feeder Canal, the Feeder Canal will 
carry the full discharge of 40,000 cusecs 
throughout the year including lean months. 

(b) The necessary discharge for efficient 
functioning of Calcutta Port by continuing 
the improvement as a consequence of (a) 
will be determined by the team mentioned 
in para 10 by observing the effects during the 
first five years and subsequent two years when 
the discharges will be varied. 

(c) Simultaneously with the above, trench 
dredging will be carried out above Howrah 
bridge in varying degrees, so that the afore- 


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said Study Team can observe its effect on 
tidal prism and check any heavy movement 
of bed sediment on to the port area. The 
dredged material may be used for reclamation 
work for which schemes would be submitted 
by West Bengal Government later on. 

(d) After the period of seven years, the 
entire position will be reviewed in the light 
of reports and observations of the aforesaid 
Study Team. 

12. In conclusion, it may be stated that 
the Government of India fully recognise the 
importance of maintaining the navigability of 
the Hooghly for the preservation of the Cal- 
cutta Port as one of the topmost Indian Ports 
and will take all necessary steps to ensure the 
same. 

It is to be noted that the interest of up- 
stream irrigation projects will also be fully 
safeguarded. 

Finally, it may be stated that legitimate 
interests of Bangla Dcsh will be kept in view 
and no arrangement made by us will adverse- 
ly affect these interests. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : The hon. 
Minister for irrigation and power is reputed 
to be very vocal and makes longish statements- 
he makes a longish reply to a small question. 

I am extremely astonished as to what has 
happened to him today. He is not reading 
out the statement himself and is taking 
shelter under the younger one. I do not want 
him to do it. 

This statement of the Minister is a narr- 
ation of history. Narration of history, in a 
way that is also a distortion of facts, suppre- 
ssion of facts, evasion of facts. He has conve- 
niently chosen certain reports of certain 
experts but he has conveniently excluded the 
reports of certain international experts and 
those experts who were directly connected 
with it and whose services were commissioned 
by the Government of India. I want to know 
why the Minister has chosen to quote exten- 
sively from Man Singh’s reports, and not from 
Dr. Hansen's report. But there arc reports 
of Dr. Hansen, Dr. Dronkard and also by 
Dr. Joglekar and also there is the report of 
Mr. A. C. Mitra, Chairman of the Technical 
Committee of Farakka. What about that ? 

I wanted to use a strong word but I want to 
desist from doing that. 

In a way he has given an impression in 



325 Failure of SRAVANA 25 , 

this House as if there are two opinions, two 
schools of thought about determining the 
quantum of the discharge of Ganga water 
into the proposed feeder canal for the river 
Hooghly. He has said that the Poona Institute 
had conducted experiments. Also the Hydro- 
logical Institute of the Port Commissioners of 
Calcutta has also conducted another set of 
experiments. I have no time to go into them. 
I do not know what is the contradiction. 
The Poona Institute has conducted experi- 
ments but they have not come to any con- 
clusion. It is wrong to say that there are two 
schools of thought in determining the quantum 
of Ganga water that will be discharged into 
the proposed feeder canal. 

The international experts whose services 
were commissioned for this purpose have 
also submitted their report. Instead of making 
such a long statement, it would have been 
better if the Minister would have come 
straightaway to the last page and tell us 
what actually he wanted to do 

One more submission I want to make. 
Before coming to that I want to draw your 
attention to one thing. An impression is 
being surreptitiously tried to be created as if 
the problem of the Calcutta port is the pro- 
blem of the State of West Bengal. No, Sir, 
it is not a problem of the State. If you 
recollect, Sn, the statement of Pandit 
Jawaharlal Nehru on the floor of this House, 
also said that the task of the preservation of 
the port of Calcutta is a great national task. 
It is not a State matter. But if you still say 
so, I would not call it ‘anti-national’, but I 
will call it an a-national or non-national 
poser. The Calcutta port is almost facing the 
death pangs and it is a national issue. Why 
is it a national issue ? Calcutta port was the 
first port among the major ports of India 
when India became free. Now, in handling 
traffic, the position of Calcutta port is rele- 
gated to the fourth position. Sir, out of 365 
days, ships of 26ft. draft cannot enter for 
more than 68 days. For the last 10 years, 
every year Rs. 30 crores is spent for dredging 
purpose, for filling up the gaps of the deficit 
budget of the Calcutta Port and for paying 
the capital invested for Farakka Barrage 
Project. Problem facing Calcutta Port is a 
national problem. It is still a national port. 

It still handles 45% of our exports and 31% 
of our imports. It earns one-third of our 
foreign exchange. It handles the maritime 
traffic of whole of Eastern India, namely of 
Tripura, Nagaland, Assam, Arunachal 


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Pradesh, Bihar, Orissa, Eastern UP, and 
West Bengal. It also handles the maritime 
traffic of Nepal, Bhutan and Sikkim. There- 
fore, Sir, can it be called a State problem ? 
Calcutta port is some kind of an ‘Economic 
Grid’ for sustaining the economy of the 
eastern region of our country. 

We should look at it from a national 
perspective. 85 per cent of the workers in the 
Calcutta port are geographically- speaking, 
coming from the other States. On both sides 
of the Hooghly, we find that the industries are 
owned by men who are geographically from 
the other States, not belonging to West 
Bengal only. Therefore, it is a national 
problem. It is not a State problem. 

Sir, it is a seven-page statement that the 
hon. Minister has given. It will take some 
time for me to elaborate my points. I now 
come to the question. For five years, what 
will be done ? 40,000 cusecs of water will 
be discharged to the feeder canal during all the 
months. Then for 2 years variable quantums 
of water will the given. Then, after that, 
there will be a prototype study regarding the 
nature of the vagaries sand bars and sand 
prism in the bed of the Hooghly. There is to 
be a prototype study like this. In the first 
instance, you say; 40,000 cusecs of water will 
be given. Then you say, variable quantum 
of water will be given for 2 years. May I 
know under what reasoning you have come 
to this conclusion ? How do you come to the 
conclusion that it will be variable ? It is 
stated that a prototype study of the move- 
ment of sand in the bed of the Hooghly 
estuary will be made on the basis of the 
finding of the hydraulic study. Now, how 
can you determine as to what will be the 
necessary quantum of Ganga water ? How 
would you know what its effect would be ? 
What is the basis on which you can determine 
all these things ? .How can you say, this 
40,000 cusecs will be for five years and then 
variable quantum for two years ? How can 
you make the quantity variable ? What is the 
basis for these things ? What is the data ? 
What is the statistics ? 

It is stated that it will take 10 years for a 
prototype study of the movement of the sands 
of the bed and the vagaries of the Hooghly 
river. Without having some data or some 
statistics how can you come to any such 
conclusion ? 

We know so many schemes about the 
use of the surface water in the Upper Gan- 



327 Failur* of AUGUST 

[Shri Samar Guha] 

getic Region. Is it not a fact that the G. S. 

I. has made some elaborate hydrological 
study of this region ? Have they not pointed 
out certain things regarding the use of the 
under- ground water in the northern region ? 
Did they not say that the over-use of the 
surface water may lead to the massive alkali 
infestation as in the Thar region of Pakistan, 
as also already manifest in Etawah and in 
the Upper Gangetic region ? Will not overuse 
of this surface water make alkali infestation 
possible and make large areas of cultivable 
land in the upper regions unusable ? Why 
do you not make use of the hydrological 
data ? Why do you use the surface water, 
when under-ground water can be used by 
means of tube-wells, and open wells system ? 

If this is done, there will be two things which 
will happen. Firstly, it can protect the area 
from the possible massive alkali infestation of 
cultivable land. Secondly, it will help to 
conscive the Ganga water for keeping the 
flow between Allahabad and Patna and also 
for discharge of Ganga water for the Farakka 
feeder canal. 

Now, I shall conclude by putting a few 
pointed questions. I want to know fiom the 
hon. Minister (a) whether 40,000 cusces of 
water will be ensured for ten years by which 
time the piototype studies on the effect of such 
water discharge will be completed and the 
findings assessed and the statistics assessed for 
fresh determination of quantum of water (b) 
whether a high-powered agency will be 
formed to ensure discharge of 40,000 cusccs of 
water throughout the year as indicated by 
the hon. Minister, (c) whether a scientific 
study will be made about the possibility of using 
underground water or ground waters since a 
study was made by the Geological Survey of 
India to find out alternative sources of water 
for irrigation purposes and also to save the 
Upper Gangetic region from alkali infesta- 
tion and thus conserve the water ultimately 
for flushing out the lower region of the 
Hooghly, and whether a task cell will be set 
up to tackle all the problems like the deficiency 
in the earth excavation equipment of the 
barrage and also the dilatory tactics of the 
feeder canal contractor as also the labour 
trouble there ? The time-schedule for the 
completion was 1970, but I fear that it may 
not be completed even by 1973, because it 
will be humanly impossible to excavate 
35 crorcs c.ft. of earth at the rate of 18 crores 
c.ft. per year ; because of the deficiency in 
equipment, the contractor shall not be able to 


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do more than 12 crores c.ft. per year. There- 
fore, canal work may not be completed before 
1975, unless Government take it up seriously 
and form a separate cell and tackle the whole 
problem on an emergency basis. 

THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION 
AND POWER (DR. K. L RAO) : I would 
like to submit that most of the points that 
th? hon. Member has mentioned were all 
considered very carefully. I would like to 
submit that the statement contains a very 
clear indication of the water that will be let 
down and the period for which it will be let 
down. I am very pietty certain that the 
experiment that we are going to do will 
leave us veiy valuable lessons Government 
have assured the House in the last para of 
the statement that the preservation of the 
port of Calcutta is the major objective of the 
Government of India, and they will do all in 
their power to save this port which is a very 
valuable one and which is one of the topmost 
ports of our countiy I did not follow the 
other points that the hon. Member made. 
But in regard to ground water, I would like 
to submit that we know that the Ganga basin 
has got the best undet ground watci in the 
whole world, and we arc exploiting it fully. 
Already, there aie 15,000 tube-wells and we 
shall have to exploit more and more this 
ground water. This is one of the alternatives 
that we ate thinking For, after all, the whole 
trouble is in the lean months when the dis- 
charge of water is very little and it is not very 
much compared with the water that the river 
rarries, which would be 400 million acre-fret ; 
so, all this trouble is due to about 2 million 
acre-feet. Therefore, we are already thinking 
of various alternatives. One of the alternatives 
being thought of is the exploitation of ground 
water in the Gangetic basin. 

Then, the hon. Member has said that it 
cannot be completed by 1973 but it will be 
completed only by 1975. I do not know on 
what basis he has said it. Contractors and 
department together are doing about 18 crores 
c ft. every year. The balance of work is 
about 26 crores c.ft. What actually happened 
in the past was this. The statement contains 
very clearly the reasons for the delay that has 
been there. One reason is that in 1971 we 
could not do much because the Ganga had 
sustained floods, and, therefore, the working 
season was very small and that was why only 
half the work could be done. We expect that 
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have the full working season and we expect 
over 20 crores c.ft. to be cleared in the work- 
ing season, and after the working season is 
over, another 6 crores c ft. so that the whole 
canal will be completed. We hope that unless 
something adverse occurs, it will be possible 
to complete it. We have gone over this 
matter very carefully, namely the question of 
trying to complete it, and we hope that it 
will be possible to complete it by Decem- 
ber, 1973 and we could let down in the 
feeder canal early in 1974. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : My other ques- 
tions have not been answered. Hon’blc Minis- 
ter has not indicated how 10,000 cusecs of 
water will be ensured for ten years, because 
he has said that it would take ten years to 
make the prototype studies and then the 
position would be re-exarnmed. 

DR. K L. RAO : I have already ex- 
plained very clearly in the statement that the 
period is not ten years, but seven years In 
the first five years we will let down about 
40,000 cusecs. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Ten yeais is 
for making a study and fresh determination of 
the quantum of waki that will be discharged. 

DR. K. L. RAO : We thought seven 
years would be sufficient. In five yeais, we 
will be able to know the effect of it. There 
arc both adverse cffei is and also favourable 
effects. It is not as if we are 1< tting down 
40,000 cusecs in the entire seven year period. 
Wc have a lot of training woik to do. Wc 
are going to do the experiment in seven vears. 
By that time we will have a sufficient indica- 
tion as to what should be done. 

I have submitted already that the preserva- 
tion of the Calcutta poit is a most important 
objective of Government. They will ensure 
that this will be achieved. 

SHRI B K. DASCHOWDHURY (Cooch- 
Behar) : In the course of his long statement 
in reply to the call attention, the hon. Minis- 
ter has, I must say at the outset, in paragraph 
11 given us to a certain extent temporal y 
relief, which will give partial relief to the 
people of Bengal, will help in the preserva- 
tion of the Calcutta Port and will also help to 
to preserve the whole national interest. For 
this, thanks arc due to the timely intervention 
of our respected leader, the Prime Minister, 
and also, the able leadership of the Chief 
Minister of West Bengal who in future years 
may be called the Bhagirath of modern 


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Bengal. Unfortunately, the hon. Minister has 
failed to mention in his statement the discus- 
sions he has had with the Chief Minister of 
West Bengal along with his Cabinet colleague, 
the Minister of Irrigation of West Bengal, 
and also with the Prime Minister. The im- 
pression has been created that he seems to be so 
much sympathetic to the cause of Bengal and 
eastern India and also the Calcutta Port. But 
in giving out this impression, the hon. Minis- 
ter has drafted the statement in such a way 
that it is nothing but an attempt to hoodwink 
the people. If I were to go into details, it 
would take a long time and I would not be in 
a position to conclude within the short span 
of time available to me. 

The hon. Minister has referred to the Man 
Singh Committee Report of 1952. He has 
also quoted from it. May I ask simultaneously 
this question. Even after the 1952 recom- 
mendations of thc» Man Singh Committee, was 
not the project for the preservation of 
Calcutta Port discussed and financial sanction 
accorded to it ? Thai being so, is this 
reference not a device to hoodwink the whole 
country, particularly the people of Bengal and 
eastern India? 

13. hrs. 

Secondly, the hon. Minister has failed in 
his duty by presenting a twisted version of 
what the Planning Commission has remarked 
that even in spite of the full suspension of 
withdrawals during the lean period, the pro- 
ject is very sound and is accepted as necessary. 
To put the matter straight, is it not a fact 
that even after this clarification by the Plann- 
ing Commission or whatever it is, this Parlia- 
ment gave sanction m 1962 for the total 
project with the idea that there must be a 
discharge to the extent of 40,000 cusecs 
throughout the year ? To put it shortly, I 
would simply refer to the Estimates Commit- 
tee’s report presented in April 1970 where it 
is stated in paia 1. 2 : 

“The project after completion will 
enable the diversion of 40,000 cubic 
feet per second of water fiorn the 
Ganga to the Bhagirathi. This, with 
the normal discharges going down the 
Bhagirathi when the level of Ganga is 
high, will set right the hydraulic 
balance of the bores in the Hooghly 
and check the threat posed to the 
ports. • . .” 

In the action-taken report submitted by the 
ministry laid on the Table of the House in 



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331 Failure of 

[Shri B. K. Daschowdhury] 

July 197J, nothing has been challenged, I 
mean the observations referred to by the hon. 
Members of the Estimates Committee, nothing 
has been challenged. Here we find the hon. 
Minister has been quoting certain conditions 
here and there which give the impression that 

20.000 cusecs will be enough or may be so. 
In his statement he also said in para 10 of the 
statement : a technical committee will go 
through the model study and on the basis of 
the report only it is to be found out what is 
the required quantum of the discharge of 
water to rejuvenate and resuscitate the Cal- 
cutta port. I also ask my third question. 
There have been a number of Committees and 
commissions ? and some were invited even 
by Dr. K. L. Rao and they said that it 
had been decided that nothing less than 

40.000 cusecs of water would be required to 
rejuvenate and resuscitate Calcutta port, to 
make it alive. It was contained in the expert 
committee report of Dr. Henscn who put his 
signature and seal in May 1957. My fourth 
question : will the Minister be good enough 
to put down in the Lok Sabha the entire 
report of Dr. Henscn which he submitted to 
the ministry concerned along with the experts 
Dr. Drunkard and Dr. Joglekar, expert on 
liver research scheme m Poona and chairman 
of the special cell in the Farakka project. 
A C Mitter ? If all these things are laid on 
the Table, the whole situation would have 
been clcaicd 

He brought foilh argument to give the 
impression that 20,000 cusecs of water would 
be enough because certain projects taken up 
in the upper reaches of the Ganga ought to 
be implemented and the programme, as it has 
been, sanctioned. Mention has been made 
of Gandak, Kosi and Sarda projects. Will the 
hon. Minister clarify whether the Kosi project, 
Gandak project that were sanctioned prior to 
1960 ? Was it not sanctioned later on? Will the 
hon. Minister lay down a white paper giving 
all these projects, major and minor, 34 major 
and 170 minor ; these have been sanctioned 
even against the vehement opposition of the 
State Government of West Bengal, whether it is 
a fact or not ? Not only this. I have every regard 
for the hon. Minister. I have heard ; I would 
wish the hon. Minister to clarify this point. 
Even when Dr. Hcnsen submitted a report 
that nothing less than 40,000 cusecs would 
be required for the preservation of the Cal- 
cutta port, I am told that Dr. Henscn, a 
hydraulic expert, a German expert who was 
invited to go through all the model studies, 


was asked : could you not bring it down to 

20,000 cusecs ? As a result Dr. Hcnsen was 
so much agitated, he felt very much insulted 
What followed ? Dr. Hensen refused to accept 
a lunch arranged in his honour. He replied : 
in a country where scientist's views are being 
dishonoured in such a way for political mano- 
uvres action it is better not to have lunch. 
There is an impression. I do not know whe- 
ther it is true or not. It is better to clarify. 
I know the details which sort of lunch was 
arranged. It is true that dredging has been 
going on increasing from 75 lakhs a year to 7.5 
crores. Ten times. It is true that the sanc- 
tioned amount for Farakka Barrage has gone- 
up by 180 per cent, as referred to by the Esti- 
mates Committee, from Rs. 56 crores to 
Rs. 156 crores. As a result, what happened ? 
The high tidal bore which was normally before 
1947 to the extent of 2 to 3 feet, has got so 
strengthened and so voluminous that it rises 
up to 6 or 7 feet and it carries with it inflow 
of water, but it cannot outflow because the 
pressure in Hooghly is not very much. As days 
go by, silt formation is going up and up. It 
is feared that even after this model test, after 
1979 or 1989, the cusecs of Ganga water that 
would be required to be discharged would be 
much more than 40,000. 

In conclusion, I want to know along with 
these six questions — they are short questions — 
will he make a prohibition order restricting 
hence forward that there should be no project 
with any pseudonym — people do not even 
understand the names of the projects ; there 
are such a large number of them, more than 
200, big and smill projects— no such schemes 
will be approved by the Central Water and 
Power Commission unless it has been consi- 
dered by this technical committee, under sec- 
tion 10 of this report. Will he also consider, 
as pointed out by this Commission, the upper 
reaches of Ganga river where the ground 
waters are available in sufficient quantities, 
because of which certain lands are not being 
fit for cultivation because of their marshy 
nature and will he consider taking these 
resources from the ground water ? All these 
things will end the matter. He should look 
into the fact that Calcutta Port is not for 
West Bengal alone but it is in the national 
interest. With that end in view, he should 
not misguide the whole nation. 

DR. K. L. RAO : Most of the points 
raised have been covered by the statement I 
have made and I request the hon. member 
to read the statement more carefully. I do 



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not want to enter into any controversy because 
I am very happy that we have had a very 
useful discussion with the Chief Minister of 
West Bengal and Irrigation Minister over the 
week-end. We spent a considerable number 
of hours over this difficult problem. I am 
sorry the hon. member has attributed motives 
that I claim originality for this. I do not 
add their names because I have not taken 
their signatures. It is also not fair to take 
their signatures. In fact, he did not authorise 
me nor did I ask for it. In the absence of the 
signature, I could not refer to it. 

The hon. member seems to know more 
about the lunch engagement of Dr. Hensen. 
It was a private lunch in my house, not a 
public lunch. Dr. Hensen not only came to 
the lunch but brought a beautiful set of 
flowers. This is all due to some cock and bull 
story given by some engineers who have been 
dismissed. 

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : Prima 
facie it seems there arc certain stories about 
it. 

DR. K. L. RAO : There are always lots 
of stories in Calcutta. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : I strongly pro- 
test against this objectionable remark. The 
question js whether the points raised by these 
engineers merit attention or not. They are 
not in this House to defend themselves and I 
strongly protest against this remark that they 
have been given by dismissed engineers. 

DR. K. L. RAO : I said it because it 
was a wrong statement made by the hon. 
member. It was a private lunch, not at 
Ashoka Hotel or anywhere else ; it was in my 
own house. I invited Dr. Hensen because he 
was known to me for years. I knew him long 
before he came for the Calcutta port. I had 
been to Hanover many years before. When 
he came here, I naturally invited him for a 
lunch. He came, as I said, with a lot of beau- 
tiful flowers. In Fact I even said “Why do 
you bring so many flowers'*. 

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : Is it 
a fact that Dr. Hensen did not take even a 
cup of water ? . . . . ( interruptions ) 

DR. K. L. RAO : The hon. Member 
seems to have been at that time .... (interrup- 
tions). It is very unfortunate these things 
should have been brought out. 

But the most important thing is this. 


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Neither Dr. Hensen, nor Dronker was invited 
for the second time by us. Dr. Hensen came 
at the invitation of the Port Commissioners, 
as also Dr. Dronker was not called for this 
project. He was asked for the outer harbour, 
for the Haldia project. The Port Commis- 
sioners seem to have asked him this question. 
They have given some information that we 
have got. We have got two pages, not signed 
pages, wherein they say that his opinion was 
asked for and “we agree with that”. Dr. 
Hensen’s first report very categorically states 
of 20,000 cusecs .... ( interruptions ) 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : It is not correct 

MR. SPEAKER : He is speaking with 
out my permission. If he continues like that, 
nothing will go on record. I do not know 
how to deal with this gentlemen. He must 
maintain certain discipline. He cannot get 

up any time he wants 

» 

DR. K. L. RAO : I want to avoid any 
controversy. I do not want to say anything 
further except to say on the irrigation projects 
in the upper basin area that the area that is 
irrigated in the Ganga Basin consisting of 
several States is hardly 24 per cent in spite of 
the fact they have got the best water resour- 
ces. That is why wc said the up-stream 
irrigation projects will be safeguarded. That 
is what the statement says 

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : Is it 
a fact that there are 31 major irrigation. . . . 

MR. SPEAKER : AH of you are beating 
each other in one thing, in making these 
interruptions. Already we are very late and 
behind the schedule. 

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : The 
West Bengal Government protested because 
these projects will hamper the progress of the 
Farakka barrage project and the improvement 
of the Calcutta port. Is it a fact that 34 
major and 170 minor irrigation projects were 
sanctioned even in the teeth of the opposition 
of the West Bengal Government without 
consulting the Ganga Brahmaputra Flood 
Control Commission ? 

MR. SPEAKER : I think he has made 
it very clear. 

DR. K. L. RAO : The irrigation poten- 
tial so far developed in the up-stream area is 
very little. But the sanction of a large number 
of projects there does not even in the least 



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AUGUST 16, 1972 


[Dr. K. L. Rao] 

effect Farakka. I have made this very clear 
in the statement. 

If the Ramganga project is taken up, it 
does not contribute at all in any way for the 
two lean months. The only concerned rivers 
are Gagra, Gandak and Kosi. Everything is 
contained in that statement. 

DR. RANEN SEN (Barasat) : On the 31st 
of March this year Dr. Rao placed a state- 
ment on the Table of both Houses, the con- 
tents of which we find on page 3 of the state- 
ment. Here he has stated in short that it 
is neither desirable, nor possible, to give more 
than 20,000 cusecs of water foi the river 
Bhagirathi. Today he makes the statement 
we saw also in the newspapers his agreement 
with Shri Siddhartha Shankar Ray — that 
40,000 cusecs will be available throughout the 
year for the river Bhagirathi. I do not know 
whether he is a magician or not. When he 
made the statement that 20,000 cusecs will be 
needed and will be supplied, and not more 
than that, he knew the opinions of Dr. Hensen 
Dr. Dronkhurst, Dr. Joglekar of Khadakvasla 
Institute and Shri A. G. Mitra of Uttar 
Pradesh. Still he made that statement. By 
making that statement, one purpose was 
served. I do not know whether he deliberately 
did it or not. Bengal was pitted against 
Bihar ; U. P. was pitted against Bengal. 
There was no trouble between Bengal and 
Bihar, no trouble between Bengal and U. P. 
We are peaceful citizens living as good 
neighbours. Only when he made that state- 
ment, all these questions cropped up in Bengal, 
Bihar and U. P. He is responsible for that. 
He made a very serious statement. 

Not only that. Even before that, on the 
26th June, he made a statement in the 
Calcutta Raj Bhavan he found no other place 
to make a statement — which will be offending 
to the feelings of the people of Calcutta. It is 
the same statement that not more than 20,000 
cusecs of water will be available. 

Now, in this statement, he says it will be 
available for seven years. Before stating that 
in the statement, he also dug up, as pointed 
out by many hon. Members, the Man Singh 
Committee Report of 1952. After all these 
things, a very well-known Engineer, well-known 
to Dr. Rao, Mr. Devesh Mukerjee, made a 
statement in the press that nowhere, when he 
was the General Manager of the Farakka 
Barrage, there was any mention of any diffe- 
rence of opinion. He is the person who was exto- 


Govt . to complete Farakka 336 
Barrage (C. A .) 

lied by Dr. Rao himself as one of the foremost 
river Engineers that India has produced. He 
said that nobody knew about this thing, there 
was no serious difference of opinion. Today, 
in this statement, the hon. Minister mentions 
about the Man Singh Committee Report. 

I do not know who was Mr. Man Singh. I 
do not want to make a long statement. 

I simply say that this whole thing, his 
statement, is shrouded in mystery. In May 
and June, he made a statement that no more 
than 20,000 cusecs of water will be available. 
Now, in the middle of August, he makes a 
statement that it is available for seven years 
and then certain studies will be made. 

I want to know which statement is correct, 
today’s statement or the statement that he 
made in this House on the 3 1st May this year. 
Therefore, as I said, the whole thing is 
shrouded in mystery. I am afraid, this will 
lead Bengalis-Biharis fighting for water as has 
been the case with Narmada water and 
Cauvcry water. I want to know specifically 
categorically from the hon. Minister whether 
the formula that he had given earlier in this 
House which is embodied in the statement on 
p. 3, has been given up at least for the 
coming seven years. 

Secondly, I want to know the reason why 
the construction of this feeder canal has been 
delayed. In January, 1968, Dr. Rao will 
recollect that there was a Consultative Com- 
mittee meeting where he invited many of us. 

I was also there. The feeder canal was being 
dug in those days. Now he speaks of the 
labour trouble. The labour trouble was much 
more in Farakka Barrage than in the case of 
the feeder canal. Why was it not completed 
by 1971 ? According to him, it is to be 
completed by 1973. Where is the guarantee ? 
This delay in the construction of feeder 
canal, according to the Farakka Barrage 
authorities, is causing a loss of Rs. 6 crores 
every year as interest charges. Who is going 
to pay ? It is the public Exchequer. Why 
should the public pay ? So, I want a 
guarantee from him. It is not simply saying, 
( T do not find any reason why it should not 
be completed.’* Can he give us a guarantee 
in this House today that by the end of 1973, 
the feeder canal will be constructed and that, 
if for that purpose any other agency is to 
be set up or brought in, that will be done ? 

Thirdly, I want to know about this investiga- 
tion in the whole Farakka Barrage scheme that 



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Mr. Samar Guha raised to which Dr. Rao 
has not answered. By whom was the investiga- 
tion done and how the investigation will be 
done after seven years or after five years ? 
All this is in the statement. How will the 
other elements who are interested in the 
development of the Calcutta Port be taken 
into confidence ? What will be the machinery 
to do that ? These are the three questions. 

DR. K. L. RAO : I did not want to 
make any statement in the last session. 
What happened was that the hon. Speaker 
told me that the hon. members from West 
Bengal insisted that I should make a state- 
ment. That is why I had to make a 
statement. 

Farakka project is a sanctioned project 
approved in I960 by the Ministry of Shipping 
and Transport to which this project belongs. 
This project does not belong to the Ministry 
of Irrigation and Power ; that has nothing to 
do with it, neither with the power aspect nor 
with the irrigation aspect. This is the project 
of the Ministry of Transport and Shipping. 
They asked us to do the works. The figure 
that I have given has been quoted from page 
56 of the sanctioned project report. The hon. 
Member may see that. I have no authority to 
change it. What I gave was exactly the 
amount laid down for different months in the 
sanctioned project. 

A lot of emotion was created. The Chief 
Minister of West Bengal wanted to discuss this. 
Wc had a lot of discusssions. We find that, 
in the next five years, it will be possible for 
us to allow 40,000 cusecs of water. Every- 
thing has been covered in the statement. We 
want to setth* this controversy by field 
experiments. The controversy about 40,000 
cusecs of water being required relates to 
those two lean months ; it is not a question 
of ten months. Some feel that 20,000 cusecs 
of water will do for those two months. We 
have yet to take observation. We have got to 
make observations on the prototype and not 
on the models. That is why we have said 
that it is a very useful and scientific investiga- 
tion. The hon. Member asked who will do 
the investigation. That has also been given 
in the statement. The investigation will be 
done by the Ministry of Shipping and Trans- 
port who is responsible for that. They will 
have a study team. The study team will 
consist of the Port Commissioners of Calcutta 
Central Water and Power Research Station, 
Khadakvasla, West Bengal Government, and 


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any others that the Ministry of Transport and 
Shipping may consider necessary. That is 
why they have said, ‘etc.*. The investigation 
will be done by them. 

The other question was about the delay. 
I am surprised the hon. Member is asking 
this question. It is one of the most difficult 
projects in the world. The canal’s width is 
far greater than the width of the Suez Canal ; 
its width is 490 ft. as against the width of the 
Suez Canal of 200 ft. It has got so many 
engineering difficulties. Moreover, this project 
was started in 1965. The canal was construc- 
ted quite remarkably. We are going to do it 
in eight years. The hon. members may 
recall that the Rajasthan Canal has been 
going on for the last 15 years and yet, we 
are no where near completion. This project 
involves a large amount of work. ( Interruption ) 
The reasons for the delay have been given. 
In 197 i there were heavy floods. The whole 
area was flooded. 'She working season was 
little. One of the most important reasons is 
labour unrest in 1969. The hon. Member 
referred to Mr. Debesh Mukherjee who was 
my friend though he differs from me now. 
The General Manager told me— he complained 
very bitterly about this unrest — , ‘Dr. Rao, my 
driver drives the car at a speed of five kilometres 
per hour ; I want to get down and walk, but 
he does not allow me to walk ; what is this 
trouble. He was the General Manager in 
1969. I did not want to quote all these 
things. The hon. members must know that 
I have the privilege of being associated with 
this project for long ; perhaps nobody else, 
no other engineer, has been so long associated 
with this as I have been. I have been associa- 
ted right from the beginning, right from the 
first step- when it was investigated and what 
has to be done and so on, as early as 1955. 
It will be one of my privileges to see that this 
project functions and objectively works in the 
way we wanted.it. No engineer in this world 
would say that once the project is designed 
and constructed, he will not see the fruits 
thereof. Therefore, the hon. Members are 
unnecessarily attributing motives. 

The situation i9 difficult. There are three 
possibilities. It is all given in the report. 
Also I want to tell the hon. Members that the 
interests of the country do not lie in putting 
one State against the other or one project 
against the other. We are not interested in 
one particular project. We want to develop 
the whole country. I want to submit very 
dearly that we want to take irrigation potential 



339 Failure of AUGUST 

[Dr. K, L. Rao] 

of this region from 24% as early as possible, 
in the next ten yean. After all, the problem is 
not hopeless. It is of an intricate nature, we 
will be able to find a solution. We will be 
able to achieve all the three objectives that 
have been mentioned in the last page of this 
statement. 

SHRI B. K. D ASGHOWDH URY : I want 
to make one thing clear. 

Nobody desires that there should not 
be any development projections. All the 
development projections should be there. 

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DR. K. L. RAO : With regard to Bangla 
Desh, it has been made clear in the statement 
that the legitimate interests of Bangla Desh 
will be taken into account and I am pretty 
certain that the great neighbouring country 
of Bangla Desh and ourselves will be able to 
sort out the various problems connected with 
this. 

With regard to the other question, about 
delay, I have already made it clear. 
I am not expecting any more delay 
in this project. There may be delays in the 
completion, by one or two months, but that 
is nothing. In a big and magnificent project 
like this, the like of which has not been done 
anywhere else in the world, nature plays a 
large part. Nature could have easily obstruc- 
ted us more but we are prepared for many 
more difficulties. We saved Rs. 10 crorefl 
because of nature’s gift. We have been able 
to do the work in about 8 years. This took 
us from 1963 to 1971, that is, 8 years. We 
have done this magnificent work, The canal 
was a bit late when we started because we 
were engaged in the difficult job of the bar- 
rage and so the work of the canal was started 
late in 1965. We are hoping to complete it 
by 1973. I don’t want to say anything else, 
so that hon. Members may not get angry 
with me later on. I wish the same speed and 
the same quickness is given in respect of 
the other projects in the States themselves. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : I will be the 
first to congratulate you, if you can complete 
it by 1973, 



341 Failure of SRAVANA 25, 

DR. K. L. RAO : I can assure the hon. 
Member this. If there is no labour problem, 
it will be completed by 1 973. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Lakhs of 
workers of U. P. and Bihar are there. . 

MR. SPEAKER : You have one leg in 
Bengal and another leg in U.P. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I am proud 
of U. P. They have elected a Bengalee. They 
are not parochial. I know that lakhs of 
people from U. P. and Bihar have gone to 
Bengal in search of jobs. We want that all 
the industries in Bengal, especially Calcutta 
port, must be restored to their normal con- 
dition. Every lady used to sing ; 

^r, i It was sung by 

every girl. Because, people used to go to Bengal 
Desh. 

In his statement the hon. Minister has 
assured the people of U. P. and Bihar that 
there will be no shortage of water in U. P. 
and Bihar for the kharif season. We are told 
that the sub-soil water can be tapped for 
irrigation in the Gangctic valley. Previously, 
Dr. Rao used to say that attempts will be made 
to have Ganga- Brahmaputra project. Now he 
says attempts will be made for Ganga-Gauvery 
project. I don’t know why this diversion has 
come about. He is an engineer, I am not. 

In case the Ganga-Brahmaputra canal has 
come about, it would have benefited practi- 
cally most of these States, especially those States 
which were suffeiing because of the power 
shortage and water shortage. About Gandak 
project it has been stated that this will bene- 
fit Bihar, Nepal, U.P. etc. This is under 
construction since 1958. In view of the con- 
troversy over Gangetic water from Farrakka, 

I wish to submit that all these controversies 
must stop. 40,000 cusecs of water to be sup- 
plied to Farrakka, for revival of the Calcutta 
port is in our interest and for the people of 
U.P. and no further dispute should arise. 
But, Dr. Rao’s statement has created some 
controversies, some imaginary and some real, 
among the people of UP., Bihar and Bengal. 
Mr. Daschowdhury congratulated Chief 
Minister of Bengal and said, he will be known 
as Bhagirath. Sir, no further dispute should 
arise between the three States. They must 
live like neighbours. I wish to ask him one 
important question : Will the hon. Minister 
agree to set up a Control Board ? I know, 
this was envisaged previously. May I know 
whether a control board will be set up con- 
sisting of the representatives of Bengal, U. P. 


1894 (SAKA) Gaol, to complete Farakka 342 
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and Bihar so that all disputes might be sett- 
led by mutual consultations then and there 
and the people of Bengal would not have to 
issue a statement against U. F» We could 
include all the three chief Ministers in the 
control board ? And also Members of Par- 
liament and experts from all the three States 
to resolve any dispute which may arise in 
future. I would like to know whether such a 
central board or control board is likely to be 
established. 

I would also like to know why the Ganga- 
Brahmaputra canal has been given up in 
favour of the Ganga-Cauvery link. What is 
good in the Cauvery which is not there in 
the Brahmaputra ? I have seen all the rivers, 
but I do not know their virtues and vices. So, 
I would like to know from the hon. Minister 
why the Ganga-Brahmaputra canal has been 
given up. 

DR. K. L. RA0 : The Ganga-Brahma- 
putra canal is very much in our mind. 
Actually, it is one of the projects which we 
think is all very vital, but so far we have not 
comeout with execution, because we have to 
clear the problems of the Bangla Desh region 
through which the canal passes. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE ; Now, that is 
possible. 

DR. K. L RAO : For obvious reasons 
wc cannot make any statement about it like 
that. I am sure hon. Members will find that 
in all our statements, wc have only used the 
phrase diversions from the neighbouring basins. 
The Ganga basin has got to be and may be 
assisted in some respects by division from 
neighbouring basins. That is the statement 
that hon. Members will find all along. The 
neighbouring basin is the Brahmaputra basin. 

I would submit once again that the Ganga- 
Cauvery will be greatly assisted and would 
become greatly' valuable by the diversion 
from the Brahmaputra. In fact, it is in the 
interests of the Ganga-Gauvery link that the 
Brahmaputra link must come. I do not want 
to expatiate on it and go too much into this 
subject, because I do not want to go into 
further details at this stage, since we have 
not yet cleared it with the great country, 
Bangla Desh, many other details and so on; we 
have not even discussed it. So, I would leave 
it at that. 

I want to assure the hon. Member that 
we want to connect not only these two 
rivers, but our object is, and in fact, that 



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[Dr. K. L. Rao] 

is the modern technique throughout the whole 
world, and in fact, the best technique for 
India or the next decade or the next century 
will be to link up the waters so that the rivers 
with surplus water could be linked up with 
rivers with less water which supply deficit 
areas and thus there could be exchange of 
water from one river to the other. This is the 
main thing. The Brahmaputra is one river 
whose waters are not used at all. Practically 
no water from that river is used. So, it will 
be a great source of water for us. It will be, 
therefore, our endeavour to use its waters. 
Almost all the modern techniques will be used 
and will be pressed into service to see that 
we arc able to use the waters of the Brahma- 
putra to the maximum extent for the service 
of India. 

The hon. Member had suggested the set- 
ting up of a control board Thcic are already 
the zonal councils at whfLh these are discus- 
sed. Any way, the hon. Member’s suggestion 
is a veiy good suggestion, since West Bengal 
belongs to one zonal council and U.P. 
belongs to another. So, we can create a body 
where the whole Ganga basin could be re- 
presented. We shall consider this suggestion. 

13.39 hrs. 

RE. PRESENTATION OF TAMRA-PAT- 
RAS TO FREEDOM-FIGHTERS 

MR. SPEAKER ; Now we shall take up 
the next item of business. 

SHRI N. SREEKANTAN NA1R 
(Quilon) : I seek your permission to raise an 
important matter, and I have already written 
to you also seeking your permission to raise 
the question about the Tainra-patras which 
have been presented to the freedom-fighters. 
Tanira-patias have been presented to those 
people who have never seen the inside of 
a prison. I want to raise this question, beca- 
use as you would agree, it is a question of 
national importance. It is an insult to the 
freedom-fighters on the one side that these 
Tamra- patras should have been given to per- 
sons who have never been inside a prison, 
and secondly it is an insult to the other regi- 
onal languages which have been listed in the 
Constitution, to have the inscription only 
in Hindi and then give it. 

SHRI K. MANOHARAN (Madras 
North) : Please permit me to say a few 


words on this matter ? I shall conclude with- 
in a minute, after saying something regarding 
the issue raised by my hon. friend Shri N. 
Sreekantan Nair. 

MR. SPEAKER : I am sorry. 

SHRI K. MANOHARAN: On behalf 
of my Party, we offer our felicitations to the 
freedom fighters. That is one thing. The 
second is that they have come from all over 
the country, from all the States. But the 
tamra patra given to them is inscribed only in 
Hindi, which is against the Constitution. The 
Constitution has recognised two languages as 
official languages, one Hindi and the other 
English. Unfortunately, the freedom fighters 
from Tamil Nadu, fiom Orissa and from 
Bengal cannot read anything inscribed on it. I 
think this is an indirect way of encroaching 
upon the domain of the non-Hindi-speaking 
areas. The freedom fighters from these areas 
arc insulted . . ( Interruptions ), absolutely insulted. 

MR. SPEAKER : Please sit down. There 
should be no conti oversy over this. I had no 
intimation from him about this. 

SHRI K. MANOHARAN : I sa>, this is 
a calculated and cunning move to infiltrate 
into the non-Hindi-speaking domain, I warn 
the Hindi-speaking people that if they 
systematically adopt this attitude, history will 
later call them as people who are disintegrat- 
ing this gieat country. This matter should not 
be taken very lightly. You in your wisdom 
have already given directions to the House so 
many times that both Hindi and English 
should be used. 

MR. SPEAKER : I should have had 
some intimation that he wanted to raise this 
matter. 

SHRI K. MANOHARAN : I would 
request you at least to convey our feelings 
that if this is allowed to continue in future, I 
do not know what will happen. This is my 
warning. 


13.42 hrs. 

RE. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE 

MR. SPEAKER : The call attention 
motion has already taken one hour. I am 
very sorry that the Ministers who have to lay 
papers on the Table, a formal business, have 
to keep sitting for such a long time. 



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346 


SHRI N. K. P. SALVE (Betul) : Arc 
we any less close to your heart, Sir ? 

AN HON. MEMBER : We are also 
members and are sitting. 

MR. SPEAKER : I am thinking of just 
altering the order of the agenda so that the 
business of laying Papers on the Table should 
be over before the calling attention motion is 
taken up, so that Ministers may be free to be 
in the Rajya Sabha on business. Today there 
is also a statement to be made by a Minister. 
They have to go to the other House and 
then come running here when we have not 
finished the call attention. This leads to 
suspense. So the items Papers to be laid on 
the Table and also Statements by Ministers, 
will come earlier so that they can go to the 
other House or do something else. Then we 
will take up the call attention motion. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEK (Kanpur) : 
This should be referred to the Rules Com- 
mittee. 

MR. SPEAKER : You can discuss it. 

SHRI S. M BANERJEE: Supposing 
there is a controversial item, wc would like to 
ask for some clarifications. 

MR. SPEAKER : For that, of course, we 
will give time. Only non-conti oversial items 
will be freed. The point is that the Ministers 
keep waiting and waiting and wc cut into the 
lunch hour also. I hope the House will agree 
with me that what 1 have suggested is the 
correct thing to do. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Let it be 
referred to the Rules Committee. 

MR. SPEAKER : There is no use. . . . 

SHRI S. M, BANERJEE: There are 
many complications. Today is an extra- 
ordinary day. 

MR. SPEAKER : The Rajya Sabha has 
the same procedure. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : You are 
hungry, I am hungry, everyone is hungry. 

MR. SPEAKER : It is not a question of 
being hungry. The call attention motion takes 
a long time and all the time the Ministers 
keep waiting. Just to save time, I have pro- 
posed that the business of laying Papers on 
the Table and Statements by Ministers may 
come earlier— they can be disposed of in a 


few minutes — and then we can take up at 
leisure the call attention motion. There is 
nothing very wrong about it. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE ; It is a ques- 
tion of giving precedence. 

MR. SPEAKER s The Rajya Sabha is 
the same. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : What will 
happen to this ; first, there will be adjourn- 
ment motion, then no-confidence motion, 
then call attention motion or even obituary 
reference. 

MR. SPEAKER : We have to bring 
about certain improvements. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I am only 
protecting your interest. Otherwise, they 
will trouble you a lot. 

MR. SPEAKER : I am seeking everyone’s 
goodwill and protection at evety time. I 
actually do not know what bombshell may 
drop at what tune. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Kindly refer 
it to the Rules Committee. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : If you do 
this, it will become very monotonous. 

AN HON. MEMBER : When he is there. 
Will it be monotonous ? 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : I accept 
the compliment. 


13.45 hrs. 

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE 

Reviews and Annual Reports of Hindustan 
Housing Factory, Ltd. and N.B.C.C., Ltd., 
New Delhi 

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 
HOUSING AND HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING (SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIK- 
SHIT) : I beg to lay on the Table a copy each 
of the following papers (Hindi and English 
versions) under sub-section (1) of section 619A 
of the Companies Act, 1956 : — 

(1) (i) Review by the Government on 
the working of the Hindustan 
Housing Factory Limited, New 
Delhi, for the year 1970-71. 

(ii) Annual Report of the Hindustan 
Housing Factory Limited, New 



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348 


[Shri Uma Shankar Dikshit] 

Delhi, for the year 1970-71 along 
with the Audited Accounts and 
the comments of the Comptroller 
and Auditor General thereon. 
[Placed in Ltbraay See No. LT — 
3361/72] 

(2) (i) Review by the Government on 
the working of the National 
Buildings Construction Corpo- 
ration Limited, New Delhi, for 
the year 1970-71. 

(li) Annual Report of the National 
Buildings Construction Corpo- 
ration Limited, New Delhi, for 
the year 1970-71 along with the 
Audited Accounts and the comm- 
ents of the Comptroller and 
Auditor General thereon. 

[Placed in Library. See No. LT— 3362/72]. 

« 

Notifications under High Court Judges 

Conditions of Service Act, 1954 

THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUS- 
TICE AND PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- 
CALS (SHRI H. R. GOKHALE) : I beg to 
lay on the Table a copy each of the following 
Notifications (Hindi and English versions) 
under sub-section (3) of section 24 of the 
High Court Judges (Conditions of Service) 
Act, 1954 : — 

(1) The High Court Judges (Amendment) 
Rules, 1972. published in Notification 
No. G. S. R. 336 (E) in Gazette of 
India dated 12th July, 1972. 

(2) The High Court Judges Travelling 
Allowance (Amendment) Rules, 1972, 
published m Notification No. G. S. R. 
841 in Gazette of India dated the 
22nd July, 1972. 

[Placed in Library . See No. LT— 3363/72]. 

Punjab Motor Vehicles (Chandigarh 
Amendment) Rules, 1971 etc. 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY 
AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND TRANS- 
PORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : I beg to 
lay on the Table — 

(1) A copy of the Punjab Motor Vehicles 
(Chandigarh Amendment) Rules, 1971 
(Hindi and English versions) publi- 
shed in Notification No. 11935 — HII 
(2)/7 1/29 169 in Chandigarh Adminis- 
tration Gazette dated the 1st January 


1972, under sub-section (3) of section 
133 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1939. 

(2) A statement (Hindi and English 
vcisions) showing reasons for delay 
in laying the above Notification. 
[Placed in Library. See No. LT — 3364/72]. 

Annual Report of the Indian Standards 
Institution, New Delhi 

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND 
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA- 
MANIAM) : I beg to lay on the Table a copy 
of the Annual Reports (Hindi and English 
versions) of the Indian Standards Institution, 
New Delhi, for the year 1970-71. [Placed in 
Library. See No. LT-3365/72]. 

Sixth Amendment to I.A.S. (Pay) Rules 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND 
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : I beg 
to re-lay on the Table a copy of the Sixth 
Amendment of 1972 to the Indian Adminis- 
trative Service (Pay) Rules, 1954 (Hindi and 
English versions) published in Notification 
No. G S R. 281 (E) in Gazette of India 
dated the 20th May, 1972, under sub-section 

(2) of section 3 of the All India Services, 
Act, 1951. [Placed in Library . See No. LT- 
3124/72]. 

Food Corporation (Second Amendment) 
Rules, 1972 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : I beg to lay 
on the Tabic a copy of the Food Corporation 
(Second Amendment) Rules, 1972 (Hindi and 
English versions) published in Notification 
No. G. S. R. 343 (E) in Gazette of India 
dated the 18th July, 1972, under sub-section 

(3) of section 44 of the Food Corporation 
Act, 1964. [Placed in Library . See No. LT- 
3366/72]. 

Notification under Companies Act, 'Tariff 
Commissions Report (1971) re-Vanaspati 
Industry and Govt.'s Resolution Tiiereon 
etc. 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF. 
SHER SINGH) : I beg to lay on the 
Table— 

(1) A copy each of the following Noti- 



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350 


349 Papers Laid 

fications (Hindi and English versions) 
under subjection (6) or section 3 of 
the Essential Commodities Act, 1955; — 

(i) The Sugar (Price Determination) 
Order, 1972, published in Noti- 
fication No. G. S. R. 309 (E) in 
Gazette of India dated the 15th 
June, 1972. 

(ii) The Levy Sugar Supply (Control) 
Order, 1972, published in Noti- 
fication No. G. S. R. 310 (E) in 
Gazette of India dated the 15th 
June, 1972. 

(iii) The Levy Sugar Supply (Control) 
Amendment Order, 1972, publi- 
shed in Notification No. G. S. R. 
3 18 (E) in Gazette of India dated 
the 20th June, 1972. 

(iv) The Sugar (Price Determination) 
Amendment Order, 1972, publi- 
shed in Notification No. G. S. R. 
344 (E) in Gazette of India dated 
the 19th July, 1972. 

[Placed in Library. See No. LT-3367/72]. 

(2) A copy each of the following papers 
under sub-section (2) of section 16 of 
the Tariff Commission Act, 1951 ; — 

(i) (a) Report (1971) of the Tariff 
Commission on the cost structure 
of and fair price payable to the 
Vanaspati Industry. [Placed in 
Library . See No. LT-3368/72.] 

(b) Government Resolution No. 
6 — VP (15J/72 dated the 27th 
July, 1972 notifying Government's 
decisions on the above Report 
(Hindi and English versions.) 
[Placed in Library . See No. LT- 
3369/72.] 

(ii) A statement (Hindi and English 
versions) showing reasons as to 
why the documents mentioned 
above could not be laid on the 
Table within the period prescribed 
in sub-section (2) of section 16 
of the said Act. [Placed in Library. 
See No. LT— 3369/72.] 

Review and Annual Report op Handi- 
crafts AND HANDLOOMS EXPORTS CORPORATION 
op India Ltd., and Certified Accounts of 
Export Inspection Council and Export 
Inspection Aoencies and Cardamom Board 
for 1970-71 

THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN TRADE 
(SHRI L. N. MISHRA) s I beg to lay on 


the Table — 

(1) A copy of the following papers (Hindi 
and English versions) under sub- 
section (I) of section 619A of the 
Companies Act, 1956 — 

(i) Re riew by the Government on the 
working of the Handicrafts and 
Handlooms Exports Corporation of 
India Limited, New Delhi, for the 
year 1970-71. 

(ii) Annual Report of the Handi- 
crafts and Handlooms Exports 
Corporation of India Limited, 
New Delhi, for the year 1970-71 
along with the Audited Accounts 
and the comments of the Comptro- 
ller and Auditor General thereon. 

[Placed in Library . See No. LT— 3370/72] 

(2) A copy* of the Certified Accounts 
(Hindi and English versions) of the 
Export Inspection Council and Ex- 
port Inspection Agencies for the year 
1970-71 together with the Audit 
Report thereon, under sub -rule (3) 
of Rule 16 of the Export (Quality 
Control and Inspection) Rules, 1964. 
[Placed in Library . See No. LT — 3371/ 
72.] 

(3) A copy of the Certified Accounts 
(Hindi and English versions) of the 
Cardamom Board, Ernakulam, for 
the year 1970-71 and the Audit 
Report thereon, under sub-section (4) 
of section 19 of the Cardamom Act, 
1965. [Placed in Library . See No. LT— 
3372/72.] 

Annual Report (Part II) of Registrar of 
Newspapers 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR 
SINHA) : I beg to lay on the Table — 

( 1 ) A copy of the Annual Report (Part 
II) of the Registrar of Newspapers 
for India on Press in India, 1970. 

(2) A statement (Hindi and English 
versions) explaining the reasons for 
not laying the Hindi version of 
the above Report simultaneously. 

[Placed in Library . See No. LT— 3373/72.] 



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AUGUST 16 , 1972 /. A. Aircraft mar Palam (St.) 352 


MR. SPEAKER : With your permission, 
the order will be changed so that they will 
be freed earlier because after that we can 
place all these things together, call attention, 
377 and all that. 

SHRI SEZHIYAN : Gall attention is on 
an urgent and important matter and this 
matter should be studied by the Rules 
Committee. 

MR. SPEAKER : The formal business 
should be finished ; there should be no 
controversy about it. I hope you will all 
kindly agree to it. 

13.47 hrs. 

STATEMENT CORRECTING ANSWER 
TO S. Q. NO. 14 RE BEHAVIOUR OF 
DOCTORS IN DELHI HOSPITALS TO- 
WARDS VICTIMS OF A CAR ACCIDENT 

THE MINISTER OF ' WORKS AND 
HOUSING AND HEALTH AND FAMILY 
PLANNING (SHRI UMA SHANKAR 
DIKSHIT) : I beg to lay a statement 
correcting the answer given on the 31st July, 
1972 to Starred Question No. 14 by Shri D. 
K. Panda regarding the behaviour of Doctors 
in Delhi hospitals with victims of car accident. 

Statement 

In the statement referred to in reply to 
Starred Question No. 14 on 31st July, 1972 
by Shri D. K. Panda, it was stated that of 
the 10 patients 2 subsequently died, 6 were 
discharged and 2 were still under treatment 
at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences 
Hospital. The number of persons who died 
and who were discharged was given incorr- 
ectly and I wish to correct the same. The 
correct position is that out of 10 patients 4 
died subsequendy, 4 were discharged, 1 left 
against medical advice and 1 patient is still 
under treatment at the Hospital. 

I regret the inconvenience caused to the 
House. 

13.48 hrs. 

STATEMENT RE CRASH OF AN INDIAN 
AIRLINES FOKKER FRIENDSHIP AIR- 
CRAFT NEAR PALAM AIRPORT ON 

11 . 8 . 1972 . 

MR. SPEAKER : Dr. Karan Singh. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) : 


Why not a call attention motion on this 
matter ? We have demanded a judicial 
enquiry. I tell you that people from Calcutta, 
Members from Calcutta, Madras all travel in 
Caravelle or jets ; we have to travel in Fokker 
Friendship ; it is people like us who die. . • 

( Interruptions .) 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond 
Harbour) : This type of statement takes us 
nowhere because the Minister says things 
which we do not accept. We say that this 
accident took place due to lack of precision 
approach radar. They have not installed it 
in India. Please allow us either 193 discussion 
or call attention ; let us not hear sou motu 
statements from the Ministers. 

MR. SPEAKER : Let him make the 
statement. 

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND 
CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN SINGH) : 
It is with shock that the Hon’ble Members 
will have learnt of the tragic crash of Indian 
Airlines Fokker VT-DME on the night of the 
11th. The aircraft was on a scheduled flight 
from Bombay to Delhi via Indore, Bhopal and 
Gwalior and took off from Gwalior at 9.10 
p. m. The aircraft had 14 passengers and 4 
crew members on board. After leaving Gwa- 
lior it was in normal contact with the Delhi 
air traffic control. The weather situation over 
Delhi was communicated to the aircraft in 
flight. It approached the runway in order to 
effect an instrument landing but was unable 
to land on its first attempt and earned out a 
missed approach. It then made a circuit for 
a second approach to land and reported to 
the Control tower that its position was then 
over the outer marker. The pilot was direc- 
ted by the Control tower to report “visual”. 
There was, however, no response from the 
plane and in spite of repeated calls to it con- 
tact could not be re-established. 

At 10.44 p.m., two minutes after the last 
contact had been made with the aircraft, 
rescue and fire fighting services were alerted. 
At 10.53 p.m. an Indian Airlines Caravelle 
which was then coming in to Delhi was also 
directed to look out for the missing aircraft. 
Two minutes later a report was received from 
the Caravelle that a fire had been observed 
towards its left side, short of the middle mar- 
ker. The rescue and fire fighting services were 
immediately directed to proceed along the 
final approach area and to make a thorough 
search between the outer and the middle 
marker. A crash fire tender, a rescuer tender 



353 /. /. andS . C. (r«Jfcw* SRAVANA 25, 

owr of Management ) 2?i7/ 

and an ambulance promptly started the search* 
Due to the difficult terrain, adverse weather 
conditions and darkness, the vehicles were 
unable to reach the scene of the accident, 
but foot parties from the vehicles including 
some police personnel reached the site of the 
wreckage at 12.30 a.m. near village Maksudpur 
about 3 miles East of the runway. They found 
that the aircraft had completely disintegrated 
on impact with the ground and its wreckage 
was strewn over an area of approximately 
half a mile. There were no survivors and the 
bodies of the passengers and crew had been 
torn apart. There was no fire at the time. 
Separately, Indian Airlines had also sent out 
search parties along with a doctor and an 
ambulance. 

The commander of the ill-fated plane was 
Gapt. J. M. Thapar who had a total flying 
experience of about 8,000 hours, 3,000 of them 
on F-27 planes including over 1000 in com- 
mand. A Court of Inquiry presided over by 
Shri Justice Rajinder Sachar of the Delhi 
High Court is being constituted to enquire 
into the causes and circumstances of this 
tragic accident. 

The House will share my profound sense 
of shock and join me in expressing sympathy 
with the families of those killed It is a matter 
of deep sorrow that one of the passengers of 
this plane was a colleague of ours, Shrimati 
Minimata Agamdas Guru. 

SHRI R. V. SW AMI NATHAN (Madurai) : 
Mr. Speaker, will you permit some questions 
on this statement or allow a discussion ? 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Sir, you 
should either allow a calling attention or a 
discussion under rule 193 because there were 
serious lapses on the part of the airport autho- 
rities. 

MR. SPEAKER : A judicial enquiry has 
already been ordered. Let me think over it. 

13.50 hr s. 

INDIAN IRON AND STEEL COMPANY 
(TAKING OVER OF MANAGEMENT) 
BILL* 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI 
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : Sir, on behalf of 
Shri Mohan Kumaramangalam, l beg to move 
for' leave to introduce a Bill to provide for 

* Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary 


1894 {SAKA) /. /. and S. C. {Taking 354 
over of Management) Ord . 

the taking over of the management of the 
undertaking of the Indian Iron and Steel 
Company Limited for a limited period in the 
public interest and in order to secure the 
proper management of the undertaking. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) : Why 
for a limited period ? Why not permanently? 

MR. SPEAKER : He will explain that 
when the Bill is taken up for consideration. 
The question is : 

“That leave be granted to introduce a 
Bill to provide for the taking over of the 
management of the undertaking of the 
Indian Iron and Steel Company Limited 
for a limited period in the public interest 
and in order to secure the proper manage- 
ment of the undertaking.** 

The motion was adopted . 

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN I intro- 
duce the Bill. 

13.52 hrs. 

STATEMENT RE. INDIAN IRON AND 
STEEL COMPANY (TAKING OVER OF 
MANAGEMENT) ORDINANCE, 1972 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI 
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : Sir, on behalf of 
Shri Mohan Kumaramangalam, I beg to lay 
on the Table an explanatory statement (Hindi 
and English versions) giving reasons for 
immediate legislation by the Indian Iron and 
Steel Company (Taking over of Management) 
Ordinance, 1972, under rule 71 (1) of the 
Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business 
in Lok Sabha. 

MR. SPEAKER : It is nearing 2 O’clock. 
Lunch hour has been taken up by the other 
business. If you like, we can continue, 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) : We 
do not want you to be hungry because hunger 
and anger go together. 

MR. SPEAKER : Don’t think about me ; 
think about you. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond 
Harbour) : Why should you think we are so 
heartless ? 

MR. SPEAKER: All right. We will 
adjourn for lunch and meet at 3 O'clock. 

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356 


13.54 hrs. 

The Lok Sabha adjourned for Lunch till Fifteen of 
the Clock . 


The Lok Sabha re-assembled at two minutes past 
Fifteen of the Clock . 

[Mr. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair ] 

• 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond 
Harbour) s Sir, before you take up the regular 
business, 1 wish to raise two points. Last 
week, on the 10th of August, I handed over 
to you a true copy of the interim report of 
the Wanchoo Committee, duly authenticated 
by me. 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The matter 
is being considered. It is under consideration. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Seven days 
have passed. Government have more or less 
accepted certain recommendations, like the 
one on imposing a ceiling on cash holdings. 
Why is the government not coming forward 
with the copy of the report ? It should be 
made available to Members. 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : It is true it 
has taken some time. But it is still under con- 
sideration. I hope the decision would be taken 
soon. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Then, I 
had given notice of a privilege motion against 
Shri Siddheswar Prasad for misleading the 
House in reply to a question on Asian Cable 
Corporation Limited. Shri K. P. Goenka . . . 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : He has to 
give prior notice. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : I have 
given notice to office. 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Then it is 
under consideration. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Ministers 
are trying to protect big business. . . . 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : What he says 
will not go on record. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : * * * 

15.05 hrs. 

DISTURBED AREAS (SPECIAL COURTS) 
BILL— Contd* 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We resume 


discussion on the Disturbed Areas (Special 
Courts) Bill. In the discussion on the last 
occasion, the House at one stage agreed to 
refer the Bill to the Joint Committee and then, 
subsequently, rescinded that decision. Before 
we proceed with the Bill I would like to know 
what the Minister has got to say about it. 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN 
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL 
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : We had 
agreed that this Bill should be referred to a 
Joint Committee. The original intention of 
the Government was to proceed with the Bill. 
But in view of the various opinions that were 
expressed by the hon. Members and possible 
difficulties that might arise in the Bill, in 
deference to the wishes of the hon. Members, 
Government agreed that the Bill may be 
referred to a Joint Select Committee. Then, 
about the composition of the Committee there 
were some difficulties. I have given notice of 
a substitute motion. If you allow it, I will 
move it. 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : There are 
two Motions to refer the Bill to the Joint 
Committee, one by Shri R. D. Bhandare and 
the other by Shri Ram Niwas Mirdha. If 
Mr. Bhandare wants to press for his Motion, 
then I will have to put that first to the House. 
That is not pressed. Then, let the Minister 
move his Motion. 

SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : I beg 
to move : 

“That the Bill to provide for the speedy 
trial of certain offences in certain areas 
and for matters connected therewith, be 
referred to a Joint Committee of the Houses 
consisting of 45 members, 30 from this 
House, namely : — 

Shri R. D. Bhandare, Shri M. C. Daga, 
Shri Madhu Dandavate, Shri Tulsidas Dasappa, 
Shri Biren Dutta, Shri C. D. Gautam, Shri 
Dinesh Chander Goswami, Shrimati Subhadra 
Joshi, Dr. Kailas, Shri Purushottam Kakodkar, 
Shri Sat Pal Kapur, Shri L. D. Kotoki, 
Shrimati T. Lakshmikanthamma, Shri Mukhtiar 
Singh Malik, Shri Prasannbhai Mehta, 
Shri G. S. Mishra, Shri F. H, Mohsin, 
Shri Priya Ranjan Das Munsi, Shri Balakrishna 
Venkanna Naik, Shri Sarjoo Pandey, 
Shri K. C. Pant, Shri H. M. Patel, Shri M. 
Satyanarayan Rao, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman Sait, 


•** Not recorded. 



357 Disturbed Areas (Spl. Courts) SRAVANA 25, 
Bill 

Shri Nawal Kishore Sharma, Shri B. R. Shukla, 
Shri N. Tombi Singh, Shri G. M. Stephen, 
Shri K. Veeriah, Shri R. P. Yadav, 
and 15 from Rajya Sabha ; 

that in order to constitute a sitting of 
the Joint Committee the quorum shall be 
one-third of the total number of members 
of the Joint Committee ; 

that the Committee shall make a 
report to this House by the first day of 
the next session ; 

that in other respects the Rules of 
Procedure of this House relating to Parlia- 
mentary Committees shall apply with such 
variations and modifications as the Speaker 
may make ; and 

that this House do recommend to 
Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabha do join 
the said Joint Committee and communicate 
to this House the names of 15 members 
to be appointed by Rajya Sabha to the 
Joint Committee.” 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The question 
is : 

“That the Bill to provide for the 
speedy trial of certain offences in certain 
areas and for inatteis connected therewith, 
be referred to a Joint Committee of the 
Houses consisting of 45 members, 30 from 
this House, namely : — 

Shri R. D. Bhandare, Shri M. C. Daga, 
Shri Madhu Dandavate, Shri Tulsidas Dasappa, 
Shri Bircn Dutta, Shri C. D. Gautam, Shri 
Dincsh Ghandor Ooswami, Shrimati Subhadra 
Joshi, Dr. Kailas, Shri Purushottam Kakodkar, 
Shri Sat Pal Kapur, Shri L. D. Kotoki, 
Shrimati 1 Lakshmikanthamma, Shri 
Mukhtiar Singh Malik, Shri Prasannbhai 
Mehta, Shri G. S. Mishra, Shri F. H Mohsin, 
Shri Priya Ranjan Das Munsi, Shri Balakrishna 
Venkanna Naik, Shri Sarjoo Pandey, Shri 
K. C. Pant, Shri H. M. Patel, Shri M. Satya- 
narayan Rao, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman Sait, 
Shri Nawal Kishore Sharma, Shri B. R. Shukla, 
Shri N. Tombi Singh, Shri C. M. Stephen, 
Shri K. Veeriah, Shri R. P. Yadav, and 15 
from Rajya Sabha ; 

that in order to constitute a sitting 
of the Joint Committee the quorum shall 
be one-third of the total number of 
members of the Joint Committee ; 

that the Committee shall make a 
report to this House by the first day of 
the next session ; 


1894 (&4£4) Income-tax (Arndt.) Bill 358 

that in other respects the Rules of 
Procedure of this House relating to Parlia- 
mentary Committee shall apply with such 
variations and modifications as the Speaker 
may make ; and 

that this House do recommend to 
Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabha do join 
the said Joint Committee and communicate 
to this House the names of 15 members 
to be appointed by Rajya Sabha to the 
Joint Committee. 1 * 

The motion was adopted. 


15.08 hrs. 

INCOME-TAX (AMENDMENT) BILL 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Then, we 
take up further discussion of the Income-tax 
(Amendment) Bill. Shri Bade was on his legs. 

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“In the recent case of Indian Alumi- 
nium Co. Ltd. vs. Commissioner of Income- 
tax (1972) 84 I. T. R. 735, the Supreme 
Court virtually overruled its earlier deci- 
sion in Travancore Titanium Product Ltd. 
vs. Commissioner of Income-tax (1966) 
60 I. T. R. 277, and held that wealth-tax 
paid by an assessee in respect of business 
assets is deductible as a business expense 
in competing the assessee’s income from 
business.’ * 

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359 Income-tax (Arndt.) 6iU 


AUGUST 16, 1972 


Income-tax (Arndt.) BUI 960 


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tax together with the surcharge in India is 
97.75 per cent compared toj8.5 per cent in 
Canada, 75.4 per cent in U. K., 70 per cent 
in Nigeria, 70 per cent in Australia, 80 per 
cent in USA, 75 per cent in France and 50 
per cent in Pakistan. 

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SHRI N. K. P. SALVE (llctul) : This 
Bill has nothing to do with the Wanchoo 
Commission. It has a very limited purpose. 
The time is very short 

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We can say something concerning income- 
tax and the procedure laid down. There is the 
ruling of the Supreme Court of 1972. They 
have overruled the previous ruling. Therefore, 
I am saying that it should be simpler. But, 
on the contrary, they have said this. 

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“We have carefully considered the 
pros and cons and we feel that the system 
can have great utility in such matters like 
deciding the tax implications of proposed 
foreign collaboration agreements. It would 
be in national interest to ensure that such 
projects are not subsequently shaken to 
the foundation by an adverse stand taken 
by the income-tax authorities. We are 
convinced that a system of advance rulings 



361 tncom-lax (Arndt.) BUI SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA) Income-tax (. Arndt .) Bill 362 


will help in resolving ambiguities and 

doubts in time. . . ” 

Boards should be appointed and that is what 
is said on page 163 of the Wanchoo Com- 
mittee's report. . . . 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : I think the 
scope of the Bill is very limited . . 

SHRI R. V. BADE : There are so many 
ambiguities in the income tax law. .« 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Discussion 
about ambiguities would be a much bigger 
discussion. Here the point is that the wealth 
tax of a person should not be deducted from 
the taxable income. 

SHRI R. V. BADE: If you read the 
Statement of Objects and Reasons, they have 
given the same thing. In the recent ruling of 
1972 the Supreme Court has overruled the 
previous rulings and, therefore, this ambiguity 
is there. Why I should explain is because the 
law is very complicated and the Wanchoo 
Committee has recommended that there should 
be a Special Tribunal which will solve the 
complicated questions. That is on page 163. 
I am saying the same thing that the Income 
Tax law is so complicated and there are so 
many amendments that an ordinary man 
cannot understand it. So, the Supreme Court 
has overruled the previous rulings and hence 
the Ordinance. The whole income tax law is 
very much complicated I oppose this because 
of the complexities of the income tax law. 
Therefore, I oppose this wealth tax. A man 
should not be taxed twice. If he is taxed to 
wealth tax; then he should not be subject to 
income tax. 

SHRI N. K. P. SALVE (Betulj : I rise 
to support this Bill. . . 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We are 
taking up some other business at 3 30. So, 
please try to conclude by that time. 

SHRI N. K. P. SALVE : I will try, 
Sir. 

I rise to support this Bill for grounds 
which are different and may be at variance 
with those enumerated in the Statement of 
Objects and Reasons appended to the Bill 
itself. In fact, this legislative measure which 
has been sponsored by this Bill stands on its 
own intrinsic merits, unrelated to the case 
made out in the Statement and for extraneous 
reasons. I would never canvass support for 
this Bill either for supersession of the judgment 


rendered in the case of Indian Aluminium by 
the Supreme Court. I would submit in all 
humility that that is the judgment, that is a 
right judgment. I do not for a moment seek 
support for the supersession of that judgment 
nor do I seek support for this Bill merely on 
the consideration of administrative convenience 
nor do I seek support for this Bill because in 
the absence of this or if we arc not going to 
pass this law, it is likely to cause some loss to 
the Exchequer. The Bill goes to create a 
concept about taxable income so far as the 
business income concerned and we are not 
going to pass such laws creating concepts, 
artificial concepts of business income. Not for 
any of these considerations do I support this 
Bill. I support this Bill for some thing much 
deeper. It concerns very sound principles of 
fiscal legislation because, as a result of this 
Bill, we are able to remedy a defect, we arc 
able to remedy a lacuna in the law of income 
tax if the incorrc tax law is correlated in 
juxtaposition to the wealth tax law. I will 
explain the position to Mr. Bade and he will 
immediately realise how inequitous the aggre- 
gate burden of income tax and the wealth 
tax is hkely to become if this law was not 
amended the way we have sought to amend. 
As a result of this Bill and when this Bill 
becomes law, the wealth tax paid by an 
asscssee will not be an allowable deduction, 
against his taxable income under the head 
‘business’ or under the head ‘income from 
other sources’. It would be assured that the 
burden of wealth-tax would become even on 
all the assessces with reference to quantum of 
the net wealth, so that the aggregate payment 
of income-tax and wealth tax does not become 
desparate in two different areas who have 
wealth of the same value, of the same income, 
but one has the business income and the 
other has got income from some ocher source 
other than business. How this will become 
inequitous will be illustrated by me just now. 
The judgment is correct ; that is why we have 
come with this law. That is why we have 
come with the amendment of the law. I am 
supporting the rationable of the law. I will 
explain this. Take assessce A. Take assessec 
B. A has business income. He has 3.30 lakhs. 
The liability of A is Rs. 30,000 for wealth 
tax. Take assessee B. He has rental income 
or income from house properties etc. The 
wealth-tax liability is Rs. 30,000. In case of 
both A and B, taxable income would be 
3.30 lakhs. In the absence of this law, persons 
whose incomes are from business have to pay 
a wealth tax of Rs. 30,000. The determination 
of business income as a total of taxable income 



363 Income-tax (Arndt.) Sill 


AUGUST 16, 1972 


Inconu-tax ( Arndt .) Bill 364 


[Shri N. K. P. Salve] 

of Rs. 3.30 lakhs and will give a deduction of 
Rs. 30,000. This calculation would amount to 
Rs. 2,49,550 whereas in the case of B, it will 
be Rs. 2,78,875. Thciefore, the liability in 
the case of one is Rs. 29,325 more. This type 
of discrimination is there, as my hon. friend 
will see. 

SHRI R. V. BADE : The second para 
of the statement says that the Ordinance 
amended the Income-tax Act, 1961, retros- 
pectively from April 1, 1962, to provide that 
wealth-tax payable by a person dciiving 
income chargeable under the head 'Profits 
and gains of business or profession’ or 'income 
from other sources’ will not be allowed as a 
deduction in commuting taxable income under 
these heads. 

SHRI N. K. P. SALVE : That is exactly 
the point. That is what is sought to be done 
in this Bill. I have explained how inequitous 
the discrimination would be in the case of 
assessccs who are both similary situated. One 
has assets put of business and the other has 
other-than business income. In view of the 
decision of the Supreme Court in the Indian 
Aluminium Company Ltd. this is what is 
sought to be remedied. I do not subscribe 
to what is stated in the statement of Object# 
and Reasons appended to the Bill. That 
is a very highly bureaucratic approach to 
the matter. They take only the one part ; 
they do not sec me the mam part. I do not 
foi a moment submit that the decision of 
the Supreme Court in the Indian Aluminium 
Company given in No. 84 ITR is not the 
correct judgment ; that is a correct judge- 
ment ; but then, the Supreme Court is 
supposed to give interpretation on the law 
as it stands. We should amend the law. The 
eailier derision of the Supreme Court was 
not correct because it was on the basis of 
the old decision in the House of Commons. 
It did not hold the field after 10 years in 
England and it was referred to a much 
larger bench. They said “Wealth tax payment 
is allowable deduction.” 

I may also explain why in the earlier 
case it was held that wealth tax was not an 
allowable deduction. They said that wealth 
tax was levied on a person qua the owner 
of a property and on qua the trader, and,' 
therefore, it would not be an allowable 
deduction. That was the decision in the 
case of Travancore Titanium, which was report- 
ed in 1966 (60, ITR ; p. 235). But then 
bsequently it was held that a trader’s 


liability could not be isolated from his liability 
qua the owner of the property. For, if bonus 
is paid, does he pay bonus as the employer 
or does he pay it as a trader ? If he pays 
rent for the premises in which he is carrying 
on business, and rent is allowed as business 
expenditure, docs he pay rent as a trader or 
as a tenant ? Suppose he pays rates and 
taxes to the municipality or the local author- 
ity, does he pay those taxes as qua trader or 
qua owner ? A view has been taken con- 
sistently and courts have been giving their 
interpretation — it has to be a dynamic inter- 
pretation, and it cannot be a static concept — 
that a trader’s liability was expanding always, 
and, therefore, they had in the Aluminium 
case that wealth tax liability was a legitimate 
allowable liability. There was nothing wrong 
with that decision. But in the absence of this 
law, I have pointed out to you how equitous 
the aggregate liability of income-tax and 
wealth tax would have become. The State- 
ment of Objects and Reasons, instead of 
bringing out this particular point, has got 
itself embroiled in the two decisions etc. of 
which advantage is taken by Shri R. V. Bade 
who has criticised it without coming to the 
merits. 

Now, I want someone to tell us what is 
wrong in it ; if the aggregate liability of income- 
tax and wealth tax in respect of two assessccs 
similarly situated is to be brought on a par, 
then this law is particularly utterly necessary. 
Therefore, I commend this Bill, but finally 
one word more, and I have done. 

This is a case where the Supreme Court 
has given decision m favour of the assessee 
and against the Department, because of the 
faulty drafting, and, therefore, we have given 
promptly in this House to amend the law. 
Sometimes it is the other way round, and 
decisions are given by the Supreme Court 
or observations are made which are against 
the assessecs and in favour of the Department. 
It is equally necessary in those cases also 
where the intent of the legislation is in favour 
of the assessee, but due to faulty drafting, 
the Supreme Court has held it against the 
assessee and in favour of the Department, the 
Department must not delay the bringing 
forward of legislation. 

With these words, I support the Bill. 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER s Now, Shri 
Baladh anday u tham . 

SHRI K. NARAYANA RAO (Bobilli) : 



365 


Schemes for 


SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA) development of backward 366 

areas (Motn.) 


May I seek one clarification from Shri 
N.K.P. Salve ? 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : He can seek 
a clarification from the Minister and not from 
a member. When he speaks he can have his 
say. 

SHRI K. BALADHANDAYUTHAM 
(Coimbatore) : I welcome this amendment 
for the simple reason that it will add to the 
resources of the Government, though not 
further the socio-economic objectives about 
which Shri K. R. Ganesh elaborated the 
other day, because it does not require any 
argument now that the achievement of the 
socio-economic objective through the method 
of taxation has proved a failure in the last two 
or three years. We are celebrating the Silver 
jubilee of the failure of the policy of taxation 
with socio-economic objectives . . . 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. R. 
GANESH) : This refers only to direct taxes. 

SHRI K. BALADHANDAYUTHAM : 
Even in the field of direct taxation the socio- 
economic objective is not being achieved, be- 
cause the reply came from Shri Piloo Mody 
immediately that they were not going to pay 
the taxes . . . 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The hon. 
Member can continue his speech on the next 
day. 

15.28 hrs. 

MOTION RE: SEPARATE CENTRAL 
SCHEMES FOR DEVELOPMENT OF 
B \CKWARD AREAS 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We shall 
now take up the motion by Shri Nathu Ram 
Ahirwar on the separate development schemes 
for the backward areas . . . 

SHRI P. K. DEO (Kalahandi) : May I 
submit that more time should be given ? . . . 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Let me 
finish what I am going to say. I have not 
even finished my sentence. 

This is a subject in which many Members 
feel involved, and, therefore, the tendency 
will be to make their submissions as strong as 
possible, and also as long as possible. But £ 
would like to draw the attention of the House 
to the fact that only two hours have been 
allotted for this discussion. At 5.30 p. m., 


we are taking up another matter. Therefore, 
I would request that the Members who speak 
will kindly be as brief and precise and 
incisive as possible. 

Now, Shri Nathu Ram Ahirwar. 

SHRI P. K. DEO : May £ submit that 
this is a very important subject ? We talk 
of socialism and all that. There is appalling 
regional imbalance. It would not be possible 
to do justice to the subject if we have only 
two hours. So, I submit that more time 
should be given . . . 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Let us see. 

SHRI P. K DEO : ... So, I submit that 
at your discretion you many extend it by one 
hour. I think that is the sense of the House 
also. 

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY (Cooch- 
Bchar) rose — ^ 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Before we 
begin, more time is wasted on this. 

SHRI P. K. DEO : We should have at 
least three hours. 

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : I 
have submitted one amendment to the 
motion. 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We will sec 
about it. Wc have not come to that stage. 

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367 Schemes for AUGUST 16, 1972 development of backward 368 

areas ( Motn .) 


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SHRI B. V. NAIK (Kanara) : On a 
point of order. You wanted this to be a sort 
of a general discussion. Luckily we have in 
our midst our Planning Ministers. I wonder 
whether it would not be fitting if the scope 
of the discussion on this is broadened to cover 
the entire backward areas. .(Interruptions.) We 
have submitted some amendments. If it is 
going to be considered tomorrow also, our 
amendments and motions will be in time. 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We shall do 
something at that stage. 


16, 1972 development of backward 372 
areas (Motn.) 

SHRI P. K. DEO : You should extend 
the time to three hours. 

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areas ( Motn .) 


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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Motion 
moved : 

“That this House is of opinion that 
separate development central schemes be 
undertaken for the backward areas in the 
country, such as Eastern U. P., Bundel- 
khand in Madhya Pradesh, Ghhota Nagpur, 
in Bihar so that these areas may not lag 
behind other developing areas’*. 

Three arc a number of amendments given 
notice of by Members. The amendments of those 
who had given them in time had been circulated. 
A number of amendments weic sent only today. 
In view of the importance of the subject, and 
Members are very much involved in it as they 
should be, and because the last two days were 
holidays, I shall accept all the amendments 
given notice of even today, with the difference 
that those Members who gave amendments 
only today, when they stand up to move their 
amendments, would read them out because 
they have not been circulated. 

SHRI P. K. DEO : They could be circu- 
lated now. 

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : There is 
some physical limit to what could be done. 
The time allotted is limited and even with 
extension of time, it will not be possible to 
give the members as much time as they would 
like. Therefore, I will request hon. member 
to be precise. Very ofien, when you are 
precise, you are more effective. 

SHRI BIBHUTI MISHRA (Motihari) : I 
beg to move : 

- That in the motion, — 
for “in Bihar'* substitute — 


“Santhal Parganas, Alawe and other 
places in Bihar where Dhangar and 
Musahars are living*’ (1) 

SHRI S. G. BESRA (Dumka) : I beg to 
move : 

That in the motion, — 
after “Chhota Nagpur" insert — 

“and Santhal Parganas District" (2) 

SHRI KARTIK ORAON (Lohardaga) : 

I beg to move : 

That in the motion, — 
for “Ghhota Nagpur in Bihar so that these 
areas may not lag behind other developing 
areas” 

substitute — 

“Ghhota Nagpur Division and Santhal 
Parganas District of Bihar, with a view to 
removing the regional imbalances existing 
in these areas as compared to other areas 
in the respective States" (3) 

SHRI P. K. DEO : I beg to move : 

That in the motion, — 

after “Bihar” insert “the State of 

Orissa" (4). 

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : I beg 
to move : 

That in the motion, — 
after “Bihar" insert — 

“five districts of North Bengal such 
as Cooch Bihar, Jalpaiguri, Darjeeling, 
West Dinajpur and Malda and also the 
area comprising Sundcrban and the 
Purulia — Bankura districts of West 

Bengal” (5) 

SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOSWAMI 
(Gauhati) : I beg to move : 

That in the motion, — 

after “Bihar" insert — 

“and industrially backward States 
like Assam and Meghalaya" (6) 

SHRI SHIVA GHANDIKA (Banka) : I 
beg to move : 

That in the motion, — 

for “in Bihar" substitute — 

“and hilly areas of Banka Sub- 
division of Bhagalpur District, Santhal 
Pargana District and other places in Bihar 
where Scheduled Castes and Scheduled 
Tribes are living” (7) 



375 


Schemes fir 


AUGUST 16, 

SHRI CHANDRIKA PRASAD (Ballia) I 
I beg to move : 

That in the motion, — 

for “separate development Central 
Schemes be undertaken for the backward 
areas in the country, such as Eastern 
U. P., Bundelkhand in Madhya Pradesh, 
Chhota Nagpur in Bihar so that these 
areas may not lag behind other develop- 
ing areas* * 
substitute — 

“separate development Central Sche- 
mes be undertaken and medical college, 
agricultural university, veterinary college, 
sainik school and engineering college, be 
set up in each Eastern District of Uttar 
Pradesh with a view to removing regional 
imbalances prevailing in these areas as 
compared to other areas of the concerned 
States** (8) 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY* BOSU (Dimond 
Harbour) s I beg to move : 

That in the motion, — 

for “separate development Central 
Schemes be undertaken for the backward 
areas in the country, such as Eastern 
U. P-, Bundelkhand in Madhya Pradesh, 
Chhota Nagpur in Bihar so that these 
areas may not lag behind other develop- 
ing areas*’ 
substitute — 

“this country as a whole is back- 
ward and inter-State and intra-State 
disparity and imbalance arc on the increase 
in the fields of rural electrification, irriga- 
tion, rural housing, rural roads, coopera- 
tives, education, per capita income and 
consumption and in other spheres and 
therefore feels that sufficient allocation 
should be made in favour of respective 
State Governments specifically earmarked 
extra funds for backward-most areas and 
districts as indicated in the list of (180 
districts) published by Planning Comm- 
ission, including Eastern U. P., Bundel- 
khand, Chhota Nagpur, Pumea, Purulia, 
Bankura, North Bengal, Midnapur, Sunder- 
bans, Kalahandi, Ramanathapurum and 
other such areas” (10) 

SHRI B. V, NAIK (Kanara) : I 
beg to move : 

That in the motion, — 

for “The backward areas in the 
country, such as Eastern U. P., Bundel- 
khand in Madhya Pradesh, Chhota Nag- 
pur in Bihar so that these areas may not 


1972 development of backward 3 i6 

areas (Main.) 

lag behind other developing areas’* 

substitute — 

“all backward areas in the 
country” '(11) 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Sir, we 
quite understand that when the country was 
subjugated, before, 1947, regional imbalance 
was there ; but that was to serve the cause of 
the ruling nation, namely, British. But after 
that, in every Plan they profess the aim of 
bringing down the regional imbalance. I 
would like to quote the Fourth Five Year Plan 
published by Shri Dhar and Company. It 
says t 

“In terms of regional development 
there has been a natural tendency for new 
enterprises and investments to gravitate 
towards the already overcrowded metro- 
politan areas because they are better 
endowed with economic and social infra- 
structure. Not enough has been done to 
restrain this process. While a certain 
measure of dispersal has been achieved, a 
much larger effort is necessary to bring 
about greater dispersal of industrial 
activity.” 

I go further and quote another portion from 
page Id : 

“Balanced regional development and 
dispersal of economic ac tivity arc closely 
inter-related. Growth and diversification 
of economic activity in an under-develop- 
ed area can take place only if the infra- 
structure required for this is provided in 
an adequate measure and programmes for 
conservation and development of natural 
resources undertaken.” 

India as a whole is very very poor. After 25 
years of glorious Congress rule, we have the 
lowest per capita income in the world. If I am 
to believe a journalist who has taken a lot of 
trouble for collecting figures, the per capita 
income of India is 73 dollars while Pakistan 
had 121, Thailand 137, Ceylon 132, United 
Arab Republic 136 and Ghana 198. He says: 

“India is at the rockbottom of eco- 
nomic progress. Economic progress is 
mathematically measured by rhe per capita 
national income of a country.” 

He further states : 

“It is poor not only in respect of food 
and clothing, but in respect of housing, 
educational provision for maintenance of 
health as well. The plans have failed to 
improve India’s standard of living. The 



Ml Schemes for SRAVANA 25, 

failure is generally attributed to ‘popula- 
tion explosion' in this country. But a 
reference to the above Table will show 
that so far as the annual growth rate of 
population is concerned, other countries 
which have a similar or even higher 
growth rate, have larger per capital 

So, you have been selling cock and bull 
stories. 

Then I come to the inter-State picture. It 
is a Ramayana, tied in black, bound in black 
cloth because it deals with the dark age of the 
progress of this couutry. The per capita of the 
various States during the year 1969-70 are as 
follows : Punjab Rs. 945 ; Haryana Rs. 788 ; 
Maharashtra Rs. 731 ; Gujarat Rs. 635 ; 
Tamilnadu Rs. 616 ; Madhya Pradesh 
Rs. 560, West Bengal Rs. 562 ; Assam Rs. 545 ; 
Mysore Rs. 515 ; Jammu and Kashmir 
Rs. 513 ; Andhra Rs. 5 1 3 ; Uttar Pradesh 
Rs. 506 ; Kerala Rs. 505 ; Rajasthan Rs. 480; 
Bihar Rs. 402 and Orissa Rs. 375. This is 
what you have done in the course of 25 years 
of glorious rule. 

Let us go to the performance of the public 
institutions. I will take one public institution, 
LIG, to show what sort of one-eyed creature 
it is. I am quoting the Financial Express : 

“The regionwise distribution of 
LIC’s investment reveals wide disparities 
between States.” 

Is it so ? It is all in your hands and you are 
creating regional imbalance for purposes and 
reasons best known to you. 

It further adds : 

“Of the Corporation’s total invest- 
ments (which could be classified by regions) 
of Rs. 1109.48 crores at the end of March 
1971 the major share of nearly one-third 
went to the western region, followed by 
southern and eastern regions with about 
a fourth each of the LIC's total invest- 
ment in the regions/' 

I do not want to go into the details. I just 
wanted to show you one specimen how 
public sector financing institution have 
behaved in the matter of bringing down 
regional imbalance and disparity of which 
they talk so loudly. 

Now, 1 go to I.D.B.I., a very impor- 
tant institution. This is their latest report. 
This is about trends in assistance disbursed 


1894 (SAKA) development of backward 378 
areas (Motru) 

by the I.D.B.I. from 1964-65 to 1970-71 
(July-June). The amount of direct loans to 
other than backward districts, that is, advanced 
areas is Rs. 83.8 crores ; direct loans to back- 
ward districts — Rs. 5.9 crores. It is not even 
l/16th of what has gone to the advanced 
areas. You only render lip service to back- 
ward areas that you want to bring them up 
to the standard of advanced areas. 

Then, this is the State-wise distribution 
of financial assistance sanctioned and disbursed 
by the I.D.B.I. during 1970-71. Take, for 
instance, Assam. Total assistance sanctioned : 
Rs. 7.5 lakhs whereas assistance disbursed — nil. 
In the case of Bihar, the assistance sanctioned 
is Rs. 863.9 lakhs whereas they have actually 
disbursed Rs. 181.3 lakhs. In the case of 
Maharashtra, the sanctioned assistance amounts 
Lo Rs. 3151.6 lakhs whereas the amount dis- 
bursed is Rs. 2698.7 lakhs. You can see the 
percentage ratio. In the case of West Bengal, 
as against the sanctioned assistance of Rs. 
1459.5 lakhs, the actual amount disbursed is 
Rs. 597.2 lakhs. This is your wonderful 
performance. 

Then out of the total number of 752 
industrial licences issued during three years, 
1969 to 1971, only 91 were issued for back- 
ward areas. Yet, these people have the courage 
to say that they are shedding bucketful of 
tears every day to alleviate the sufferings of 
backward areas, 181 districts identified and 
listed by the Planning Commission. This is 
really nothing but an utter concoction of every- 
thing. 

Now, I go to rural electrification which 
will interest you, Sir — you don’t cease to repre- 
sent the people from Meghalaya. Take, for 
instance, Assam. The total number of villages 
is 25,702 and the total number of villages 
electrified is 707. That represents 2.75 per 
cent. Bihar — total number of villages is 67,665 
and the topil number of villages electrified is 
7981, that is, 11.79 per cent. In the case of 
Madhya Pradesh, thc'percentage of the villages 
electrified is 11.2 ; Nagaland — 9.21 ; Orissa 
topping the list — 2.71; Rajasthan — 11.09; 
Uttar Pradesh — 18.78 ; West Bengal — 7.89 and 
so on. Look at the disparity. Then, there are 
States where there is hundred per cent ; then 
there are States with 77 per cent and there 
are States with 83 per cent. The backward 
areas have remained exactly what they were. 

In the case of literacy, I am quoting from 
the Cabinet Secretariat draft which says : 

“Connected with the issue of primary 



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379 Schemes far 

[Shri Jyolirmoy Bosu] 

education is the question of adult literacy 
as well as the overall literacy in the coun- 
try, particularly in those areas where the 
level of liteiacy is considerably lower than 
the all-India average. The preliminary 
data released after the 1971 census shows 
that the “overall literacy percentage for 
the country as a whole has increased from 
24.03 per cent in 1%1 to only 29.34 per 
cent in 1971, showing a low rate of incre- 
ase in the literacy percentage of the popu- 
lation, i. e. about 0.5 per cent per 
annum . . ” 

The backward areas have remained where 
they weie. 

Then, it further says : 

“There are as many as 33 districts 
with a total population of 32.07 million 
where the literacy percentage is less than 
15 per cent,. M 

In 67 districts with a total population of 
105.93 millions, the level of literacy is only 
between 15 and 20 per cent. That is all they 
have been able to do. 

16 hrs. 

On small scale industries, the State-wise 
advance by scheduled commercial banks was 
as follows : Assam — the number of units finan- 
ced 001 ; Bihar 1492 ; Himachal Pradesh 89 ; 
Jammu and Kashmir 443 ; Maharashtra 
18,247 ; Meghalaya 1 ; Nagaland 24 ; Orissa 
697 ; and West Bengal 5,035. That is the 
picture. That is what they have done in the 
last 25 yeais. For vote-catching they will come 
and tell the people that they would get the 
Moon, but later on that will be proved to be 
nothing but Moon shine. I condemn this 
Government. I would expect them to accept 
my amendments given for the betterment of 
the country and for the improvement of the 
lot of the people living in backward areas. 

SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH 
(Nandyal) l The time at our disposal is very 
short. I do not want to go into the details of 
the entire matter. I entirely agree with the 
Mover of this Resolution with regard to some 
concrete steps that have to be taken to deve- 
lop these backward areas in the country as a 
whole. 

The Planning Commission has realised 
this grave necessity when they have made a 
detailed study and have indentified certain 
ate as as backward areas and areas which 


require preferential and special treatment by 
the Central Government as well as the State 
Governments. In identifying such areas, the 
Planning Commission has not taken sufficient 
precautions to see that the funds allotted to 
the various State Governments for such of 
those schemes that arc being undertaken by 
the grants given by the Central Government 
are spent usefully and properly in those 
areas for which they are intended. So, in this 
long time of 25 years, in spite of the fact 
that large amounts have been spent and Seve- 
ral irrigation projects and other development 
projects have been undertaken, the disparitv 
is growing and the regional imbalances are 
growing. There is something wrong some- 
where which has to be rectified and remedied 
in order to correct these regional imbalan- 
ces. 

Take, for instance, the case of Andhra 
Pradesh where there are two regions which 
are chronically famine-affected and where 
adverse seasonal conditions prevail once in 
alternate years — Royalaseema and Tclengana, 
the backward areas of Andhra Pradesh. These 
are the two striking examples that the atten- 
tion that was supposed to have been paid by 
the Central Government and the State Gov- 
ernment has failed to create any tangible 
results. Even to this day hundreds of villages 
go without the basic, elementary need of 
drinking water, and there are several places 
where the area is subjected to famine. Recen- 
tly there was one interesting incident. A 
daughter-in-law wanted to commit aucide by 
drowning herself in one of the wells ; she 
could not do so because all the wells were 
dried up. It had come in the newspapers 
also. This is the state of affairs after so many 
years of planning. These areas have been 
identified ; that is allright. But what is hap- 
pening ? In the backward district of Royala- 
sceraa, a board has been constituted by name 
Royalaseema Development Board for amelio- 
ration of the backward areas. But no special 
funds have been allotted. That is only a sort 
of recommendatory body without any man- 
datory or statutory functions. It has become 
the fifth wheel in our machinery, with the 
result that the schemes which are to be exe- 
cuted are being delayed eternally. The irri- 
gation schemes or the ameliorating schemes 
that have to be undertaken have been slowed 
down. I might mention a specific example of 
a hydro-electric scheme in that region started 
at a cost of Rs. 30 crores, by name, the 
Srisailam Hydro-electric scheme. It has to be 



381 Schemes for SRAVANA 25, 

completed by this time according to the sche- 
dule arranged by the Government but it has 
not yet been completed at now the cost may 
go upto Rs. 100 crores There are many 
such schemes. I do not want to enume- 
rate all those schemes. 

One thing is that there is something 
wrong with the infra-structural activities that 
are to be undertaken. For instance, when 
they want to set up industries in those areas, 
they have no infra-structural facilities to 
start industries. Though we proclaim more 
than once that we will induce industrialists 
to go and start industries in those backward 
areas, in practice nothing has so far been 
done. 

So, these are all factors which smack lack 
of sincerity with regard to the implementation 
of the schemes. As I said, even the elemen- 
tary facility of drinking water has not been 
provided, leave alone irrigation projects. So, 

I suggest that there should be a sort of sta- 
tutory Board at the Centre comprising all the 
identified backward areas in the country and 
they should direct the funds to be distributed 
to the various Governments to see their 
implementation in right earnest. Unless it is 
taken up at this level, any amout of speeches 
made in the Parliament or any amount of 
speeches made in the Assemblies or anywhere 
will not bear any fruit. So, these are the 
real facts of life and I might emphasize that 
the Planning Commission should seriously 
apply itself to the task of narrowing down 
these regional imbalances with regard to 
backward and famine-affected areas. For that 
I would suggest that thev should take it up 
in right earnest. There is no point in asking 
the State Governments which are already 
overburdened with the overdrafts and many 
of the State Governments are utterly bankrupt. 
They are not able to meet even their mini- 
mum requirements and their ways and means 
position is very hard. For instance, in Andhra 
Pradesh, the entire State is in the grip of a 
terrible famine. The Chief Minister was 
recently here and he was given Rs. crores. 
With this financial position, I do not expect 
any State Government will be able to take up 
these works in right earnest and do j ustice to 
these famine-affected areas. So, I would only 
urge upon the Planning Commission to see 
that a separate cell is established here, as a 
sort of co-ordinator and a centralised body 
to be constituted here, and the funds to be 
given should not be related to the State plans. 
They must be separate funds outside the 


1894 (SAKA) development of backward 382 
areas ( Motn .) 

State Plans so that they may be put into ope- 
ration and infra-structural difficulties are 
removed and industries arc induced to go and 
set up units in the backward areas. Then 
only there will be any remedy for this long- 
felt need of improving the condition of the 
backward areas. 

SHRI P. K. DEO (Kalahandi) : The 
President in his Address on the occasion of 
the 25th Anniversary of India’s Independence 
in the Central Hall on the midnight of the 
24th, stated “the prosperity and progress of 
every part of India is the concern of the 
whole nation.” It is very heartening and it 
has to be remembered that the strength of 
the chain lies on the weakest link. 

If you trace the history of the modern 
development of this country, you will find 
that it is a historical accident. The Fort St. 
George in Madras, the Fort St. William in 
Calcutta and the fort St. David in Bombay 
provided three spring-boards for imperia- 
list expansion and they were the centres of 
gravitation for development and with a cen- 
trifugal development the entire hinterland 
was neglected for the enrichment of the three 
cities. 

Orissa was the last of cede to the British 
supremacy in Eastern India and fought every 
inch for its independence and the British 
deliberately persecuted the State of Orissa. 
No development scheme was taken up in 
Orissa and Orissa was kept in pie-bits in Bihar, 
in Bengal, in Madhya Pradesh and in the 
Madras Presidency. In 1035 Orissa was for- 
med ; in 1947 the States merged and still 
there were many outlaying Oriya tracts left 
in the adjoining areas. It has been repeated 
parrot-like that they will remove the regional 
imbalance ; in all Plans, this is what is being 
repeated. But what is being done ? What 
is the result ? In 1966-67 Orissa's per capita 
income was Rs. 278.80 as against national per 
capita income of Rs. 481.50, a difference of 
Rs. 200. This difference of more than Rs. 
200 has come about in the sixties as against 
the discrepancy of Rs. 100 only in the early 
fifties. All these years, the Congress was in 
power in Oiissa. 

Sir, in 1967, the non-Congress Govern- 
ment came to power. It was an era of deve- 
lopment and a new impetus was given for 
industrial and for agricultural development. 
Many schemes and projects were submitted 
to the Central Government. The State Gov- 
ernment implemented many schemes. One 



383 Schemes for AUGUST 16 f 1972 development of backward 384 


[Shri P. K, Deo] 

of the unfortunate episodes has been that some 
of the schemes previously conceded by the 
Central Government have now been siphoned 
to certain other areas. There is the case of 
the Naval Boys* Training Centre at Barkul 
for which there was site selection and only 
formal opening remained to be done. This is 
near Chilka lake and would have brought 
many indirect benefits to the area. Mr. 
Chintamani Panigrahi comes from that area. 
This has been put in cold storage. Justice 
has been sacrificed at the alter of political 
expediency. Let Mr. Chintamani Panigrahi 
resign on this issue ; we will all see that he 
is re-elected on this issue. 

If, however, the Naval Boys Training 
Centre at Barkul would not be suitable for 
ecological reasons, I suggest, it should be 
located in some other area along the Orissa 
coast. I suggest, it should be located at 
Paiadeep. • 

Regarding the ship-building yard at Para- 
deep, the project report was prepared ; this is 
the deepest seaport in the country. It has 
harboured the largest ship that has ever 
anchored on the Indian port. Still it is 
denied the ship-building yard. It has gone to 
Haldia. I have no grudge against Haldia. 
Near Haldia, there is another establishment 
of the Defence Ministry, Garden Reach, 
which also builds ships. Nature has endowed 
Orissa with all the natural resources and even 
Dastur and company gave a report that cost 
of production of steel here would be the 
lowest. They said, if the next steel plant is 
located in Nayagaih the cost would be 
Rs. 354 per in got tonne as against Tisco’s 
Rs. 413, Durgapur's Rs. 450 and Vizag’s 
Rs. 414. Still no consideration was shown 
to it. 

The setting up of a Jute Mill has been 
approved by the Planning Commission and is 
stated to be under consideration by Shri L. N, 
Mishra. This Jute Mill is not coming up, 
even though we grow jute in 50,000 hectares 
or 1.50 lakh acres of our land. From these, 
you will be convinced that the Centre is 
guided by various pulls. The States have no 
autonomy even to put up an industrial plant 
or to raise the royalty for their mineral ores. 
Nature has endowed them with rich natural 
resources. When there was arise in the inter- 
national price of iron ore, the Central 
Government raised the export duty by Rs. 10 
per tonne, whereas the States were denied of 


areas ( Motn .) 

the right to increase their royalty or their 
quota of finance. 

I would like to submit in this regard that 
even in the matter of distribution of essential 
commodities like iron and steel, the Centre 
controls it. We talk of the development of 
backward areas. The infra-structure has to 
be developed. As for rural electrification, 
there should be a network, but the biggest 
impediment is being put by the Central 
Government by not releasing sufficient quota 
of iron and steel for the transmission line from 
Talcher to Thruvali and Balimela. I would 
like to point out that this is a direct challenge 
to the youths of Orissa, and to the uneducated 
unemployed of Orissa, and I hope that they 
will rise to the occasion and they will give a 
fitting reply to the Government. 

Regarding railway lines, Orissa has got 
only 1 1 k.m. per 100 sq. k.m. whereas West 
Bengal has got 36 k.m. per 100 sq. k.m. and 
Punjab has got 44 k.m. per 100 per sq. k.m. 
The Jakhpura-Banspani-Koira valley line and 
the Amaguda-Kesinga railway line have been 
kept in cold storage in spite of the feasibility 
report. If Government want that Paradip 
port which is basically an iron-ore- exporting 
port should not be connected with her hinter- 
land and the entire iron ore resources of 
Orissa should be siphoned off through the 
Haldia port, then there is some high politics 
behind it and some dirty politics behind it. 

Lastly, there is a feeling that Orissa is 
being given parochial treatment by the 
Centre, even though there is a Chief Minister 
who has been planted there, who has got no 
mandate from the people of Orissa, with an 
inflated majority with defectors who have been 
promised loaves and fishes and who have been 
rewarded with Minister ship. What more can 
we expect ? We feel that it is Shri Siddhartha 
Shankar Ray and Shri Priyaranjan Das 
Munsi who are ruling over Orissa and not 
Shrimati Nandini Satpathy. She will not be 
able to fulfil the hopes and aspirations of the 
people. 

I would conclude with the following sug- 
gestions. First of all, if regional imbalance 
has to be removed, then planning should be 
decentralised. Instead of from the top from 
the Yojana Bhavan, it should start from the 
panchayat to the district and State level and 
then it should come to the Centre. Secondly, 
there should be the creation of the basic 
infra-structure like irrigation, power, roads, 



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SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA) 


railways, educational facilities etc., for skilled 
workers, hospitals and workshops, and the 
incentives suggested by the Pande and Wanchoo 
Working groups of the Planning Commission 
have to be fully implemented in letter and 
spirit. Unless these things arc done and early 
steps are taken in this behalf, I fear that 
India’s unity is in danger. Bangla Dcsh is an 
eye-opener. 

SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOSWAMI 
(Gauhati) ; Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I come 
from a land of paradox. It is a paradox in 
the sense that I come fiom that State and 
that area which contributes the largest amount 
of foreign exchange for this country ; I come 
from that area which provides this country 
with oil ; I come from that area which is the 
scat of different ethnic groups, caste and people 
of different tribes, and obviously an area of 
this nature should be rich, but the paradox of 
it is that it is one of the most backward 
regions of the State. 

We speak with great regret that even 
though 25 years have elapsed since Indepen- 
dence, we have not seen much of an im- 
provement in that region A very unfortunate 
thing is that the basic factors which require 
immediate attention from the Central Govern- 
ment in many respects have not been attended 
to. Many Members have already talked about 
the infrastructure. It is extremely unfortunate 
that in the entire eastern region, even the 
minimum requirement of infrastructure for 
the growth of the economy is not there. 

For example, the first requirement is the 
requirement of communication. We have said 
that if there should be industrial or agricultural 
development in that region worth the name, 
then there should be proper communication, 
and a very minimum request has been made 
to the Central Government for the extension 
of the broad gauge railway line to Assam. 
Even though there has been repeated demand 
from the people of Assam for this minimum 
requirement, yet this has not been attended to. 

We have recently seen that the prospect 
of proper agricultural production in the State 
has been completely upset by the recurrence 
of floods not once or twice but thrice in a 
year. Therefore, we cannot but ask the 
Central Government to have some schemes 
whereby the situation created by the Brahm- 
putra bursting its banks can be handled and 
solved. But we have found that due to inter- 
nAinisterial lack of co-ordination, no decision 
has so far been taken in that respect. Though 


development of backward 386 
areas (Motn.) 
the Brahmaputra Flood Control Commission 
has been constituted, it is remaining idle for 
want of funds. 

Thirdly, even in the State from which you 
Mr. Deputy Speaker, come, Meghalaya, 
nothing has been done in this sphere Meghalaya 
is rich in mineral resources. There is tre- 
mendous scope for development of agro-indus- 
tries. There is considerable scope for the 
development of fruit preservation industries. 
There exists tremendous scope for development 
in other hill regions too. But nothing has been 
done so far in this direction. We have not 
seen any agricultural or industrial develop- 
ment of which we can be proud. 

Therefore, m the limited time at my dis- 
posal, I would ask the new Planning Minister 
who is undoubtedly a dynamic personality. , 

SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra) : And 
his old assistant. # 

SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOS- 
WAMI : By his dynamism, he will undoubte- 
dly carry his assistant with him. We would 
like him to come to our assistance about the 
interest of our State. We would request him 
to create an infra-structure in our region so 
that there may be proper industrial and agri- 
cultural development. 

Here I make a suggestion. As industrialists 
are very much reluctant to go to this region, 
whenever industrial licences are given to 
monopoly houses, it should be with the 
condition that the industrial undertakings 
must be located in the backward regions. I 
think a list of priorities in regard to backward 
regions must be drawn up in clear terms. 

SHRI PILOO MODY : The law does 
not allow it. 

SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOS- 
WAMI : If so, we have sufficient powers to 
amend the law. 

My second submission is that if in- 
dustrialists represent and Government fed 
that the indigenous people are at a great 
disadvantage in locating their industries in 
those regions, they could even consider giving 
a tax holiday to those industrial concerns. 
This undoubtedly will please Shri Mody and 
meet with his approval. In making this 
suggestion, I am not wanting to make the 
rich richer. I am making it order that the 
poor people in the backward regions may get 



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AUGUST 16, 1972 


[Shri Dinesh Chandra Goawami] 
rich and also black money might come to 
surface in the form of white money and be of 
use in the industrial development of the 
country. Undoubtedly, if by declaring a tax 
holiday, we can achieve the purpose of bridging 
the gap of regional imbalances, that will be 
of great benefit to the country. I hope the 
Minister of Industrial Development will 
consider this with other Ministers. 

In the short time at my disposal, it is not 
possible to catalogue the various deficiencies 
of our State ; also this debate is not intended 
for that purpose. The purpose of this debate 
is to focus the Government’s attention in 
general terms on the urgent needs of backward 
regions in regard to development. I am sure 
that our new Minister and his Ministry will 
undoubtedly make an integrated approach 
particularly for the development of these 
regions. 

After all, we have got 4 a massive mandate 
from the people. When we go back to our 
people, the question asked of us is : what are 
you doing after we have given you a big 
mandate ? Obviously, in the years to come 
if we cannot do anything in this direction, it 
will bring discredit to the entire nation. 
Therefore, to fulfil the mandate the people 
have given us, I request that immediate and 
urgent attention be bestowed on the develop- 
ment of not only Assam, Meghalaya and 
Arunachal Pradesh but the entire eastern 
region which is so rich in cultural traditions 
and industrial and agricultual potentialities. 

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SHRI K. D. MALAVIYA (Domariaganj): 
Sir, my friend Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu revealed 
to us certain figures which should be painful 
reminders to us that we are still far from a 
satisfactory situation which can really please 
us. But it is no use complaining against what 
has not been done so far, because there are 
certain very basic reasons which should be 
apparent to my fiiends in the opposition and 
to us also and those basic reasons arc not 
going to be solved in a day or two or in a 
year or two or even in five years. Let us be 
quite clear about that. Otherwise, day in 
and day out, the opposition throws wordy 
stones at us and it does not affect us. Let us 
try to find out why an area becomes back- 
ward or forward in a country. 

16.36 hrs. 

[ Shri K. N. Tiwary in the Chair ] 

After all, why should Bombay be so pro- 
gressive and forward and Orissa is backward 
economically, socially and from other points 
of view ? There arc certain inherent situations 
which obtain and which need to be considered. 
I would like to draw attention to those condi* 



393 Schmes for SRAVANA 23 , 1894 {SAKA) development of backward 394 

areas (Motn.) 


tions but there is no time for it. I will at 
present only give some suggestions for the 
consideration of the Planning Ministers who 
are sitting here. 

One thing appears to be quite clear. 
Millions of people who are unemployed to- 
day cannot get employment by merely organi- 
sing small-scale or cottage industries in the 
backward areas. The fact of the matter is 
that you cannot develop small-scale or cot- 
tage industries in proverbially backward areas 
where the industrial culture or way of life 
has not developed. It will take a long time 
for Balia or Basti to see a miniplant prosper 
as it would prosper in a place like Kanpur or 
Bombay. I am not against such plants but 
what I am emphasising now is a known alter- 
native. We in the Congress Party have recent- 
ly pledged ourselves to implement a very big 
programme of re-distribution of land in rural 
areas. That has the implication of economic 
development in such a way that you will not 
find a quicker method of economic develop- 
ment. Mdlions can find employment by the 
development of land in our rural areas, but 
millions cannot find employment through 
small-scale industries in a short space of time. 
This is a fundamental question which must 
receive the attention of government. What- 
ever pledges we have made, whatever instruc- 
tions have been received by the Chief Minis- 
ters with regard to re-distribution of land, 
agricultural development, etc., they must 
receive precedence and be implemented in the 
most honest way. Come what may, the land 
must be recovered from those who do not 
deserve to hold it. If they still retain the 
land and only distribute it to their servants 
and ben. i mis, nothing can be done about the 
development of backward areas. What I want 
to emphasize is that the first necessity, the 
first programme which confronts us today is 
the development of that rural land which is 
still in the possession of the people who can- 
not develop it. It is the state which has to 
come forward to develop those areas foi those 
people, and it has to be done urgently. 

Secondly, planning has to start from 
below. Although this has been talked about 
in a big way for a number of years, this has 
not been done. I make a concrete suggestion. 
Let us choose about ten districts in the whole 
country. Let the District Magistrates of 
those districts convene a conference of impor- 
tant non-official workers of that district. I 
do not think they will number more than 
1,000 to 1,500. Let there be a convention of 


those people for three or four days under the 
chairmanship of the District Magistrate. Let 
those people make suggestions with regard to 
small schemes which they consider necessary 
in their own areas like small roads, hospitals, 
tubewells, schools etc. Some representatives 
of the State Government and the planning 
division of the Central Government should 
attend this convention and record the sugges- 
tions. In other words, planning should ema- 
nate from these people. Then you can create 
in them a feeling of association, that they 
have made a suggestion which has been consi- 
dered and accepted. Then it will become a 
peoples’ plan. I do not say that you have to 
accept all their suggestions but most of them 
you will find you will have to accept. 

So, the programme of agricultural develop- 
ment and redistribution of land require most 
serious consideration by the Central Govern- 
ment. You mujt create some machinery by 
which you see that the programme is imple- 
mented. That will give us millions and 
billions of rupees every year which will go 
ultimately to create a situation where urban 
poverty can also be taken care of. If you 
only talk of giving small-scale industries in 
rural areas and creating mini-steel plants 
where it cannot be done, then you are only 
wasting time. So, the first priority is the 
implementation of the land programme and 
the second is to start planning from district 
levels by associating the people who live 
there. 

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : Mr. 
Chairman, the Resolution emphasizes that 
the Central Government should come forward 
with ambitious plans so that the backward 
regions might come up to the level of the 
other regions within a shorter period. Even 
according to the Planning Minister’s own 
admission, no development has been made to 
those areas during the last few years. If you 
take the statistics of the two decades you will 
find that the number of people w r ho arc 
living in object poverty and below the stan- 
dard is remaining the same. 

I quote from the Approach to the Fifth 
Five Year Plan, para 3 : 

“Economic development in the last 
two decades has resulted in an all round 
increase in per capita income and the pro- 
portion of the poor defined as those living 
below a basic living standard of consump- 
tion has slightly come down. Yet, the 
absolute number of people below the 



395 


Schemes for 


AUGUST 16, 1972 


[Shri B. K. Daschowdhury] 

poverty line today it just as large at it 
was two decades ago.*’ 

Further, it says that if this process is to be 
continued, to remove these regional imbalan- 
ces or to make up the shortages of backward 
areas upto si certain standard throughout the 
country, it may take 30 to 50 years or even 
more. It is their own admission. 

I quote another one line more : 

“Available projections suggest that 
if one were to rely on the growth alone 
without directly tackling the problem of 
unemployment and income distribution, 
it may take another 30 to 50 years for the 
poorer sections of the people to reach the 
minimum consumption level.” 

So, the only question, to finish within a very 
short span of time that is available to the 
Members today, is whether the Government 
will agree to the suggestions put forward by 
the hon. Members that there should be a 
separate development authority to give a 
momentum so that the huge momentum of 
generation of development schemes may come 
up in the course of a few years upto the 
normal standard throughout the country. 
This is the only course. 

In the Fifth Five Year Plan also, certain 
measures have been taken. Unfortunately, 
even those measures we find are not in a 
position to cope with the gigantic problem of 
the development. As a matter of fact, even 
with so many measures taken for the popu- 
lation control, the birth control, the popu- 
lation is increasing at such a rapid rate and 
the number of persons living in adject poverty 
is also increasing. There is no way out. It 
is only if the Government of India comes 
forward to tackle the situation on a war- 
footing, not only by suggesting certain mea- 
sures, as for example, small farmers, develop- 
ment programme, that of marginal farmers, 
agricultural labour and some other sectors. 
It is not enough. I quite admit that these 
are certain incentives to makeup the deficiency 
to make up the gap. 

As far as West Bengal’s per capita income 
is concerned, as stated by my hon. friend — 
without coming to the real point of discussion 
today, he has stated many figures — the per 
capita income in 1969-70, is 511. But I pose 
another question, to give the district- wise 
per capita income. The statement was laid on 
the 19th April, 1972. I quote them. Though 


development of backward 396 
areas (Motn.) 

in general it is said, considering there are 
certain districts where the per capita income is 
far far less, it is stated, Purulia— 197, Cooch- 
Behar — 229, Bankura — 229, Midnapore — 231, 
Malda — 245 and all these variations, varying 
from 197 to 389 in Howrah. The per capita 
income of Calcutta is not stated here. But it 
must be more. The average per capita of 
income for West Bangal being 511, it must 
be round about 1000 or a little more. 

In view of all this thing, it is quite clear 
that backward areas are remaining as back- 
ward, backward regions are remaining as 
backward, even with certain incentives here 
and there for the development of backward 
area. It is not meeting with the real situation 
a gigantic problem, that has to be taken up 
and shouldered by this Government. Back- 
ward areas will remain backward whatever 
might be the incentives announced from time 
to time, unless the basic infra-structure, as said 
by several other hon. Members also of 
development is there. 

Now, it has been stated by the Govern- 
ment of India that to increase this basic 
infra-structure of development, such as, 
communications, irrigation, electricity, these 
things are to be taken up by the State Govern- 
ment. Even I quite appreciate that these are 
the State Government's responsibility. But 
considering the huge problem, the question 
is whether it would be very difficult on the 
part of the Government of India to take up 
all those schemes so that the basic infra- 
structure of development, particularly in these 
backward regions throughout the country 
might be taken up under a special develop- 
ment authority by the Government of India. 

I have already moved an amendment tc> 
insert after ‘Bihar’ the five districts of North 
Bengal such as Gooch-Behar, Jalpaiguri. 
Darjeeling, West Dinajpur and Malda. 
These five districts are giving huge profits to 
the national exchequer by way of their forest 
products. (Interruption) These five districts 
are having a population of nearly 50 lakhs, 
i.e., one-sixth or one-seventh of the total 
population of the State of West Bengal — 
even minus Calcutta ; — these five districts 
are giving one-third of the total agricultural 
wealth generated in the State. For that 
reason, Sir, no further development has been 
taken up there — no industry, no road commu- 
nication, no irrigation projects, no electricity 
project. It was accepted by the Prime 
Minister and the other hon. Ministers here 



391 Schemes fir SRAVANA 25, 

by Mr. Mohan Dharia also ; he replied to the 
House ‘Yes ; there shall be a North Bengal 
Development Board'. (Interruption) Unfortu- 
nately the North Bengal development, along 
with the development plans of the Develop- 
ment Authority for the progress and develop* 
ment of Sunderban, Bankura and Purulia 
districts, has not yet been taken up. Take, 
for example, irrigation and electricity. I 
know, West Bengal Government has taken up 
a gigantic programme for rural electrification. 
The total quantum of electricity that is 
available today is about 1,000 megawatts. 
But if the West Bengal Government is to 
develop that to the extent. Of having electri- 
city throughout all the villages in the State 
of West Bengal, according to the present, 
rate, it will require about 2,300 megawatts. 
To have this additional 1300 megawatts of 
power, will it be possible for the West Bengal 
Government alone to construct huge projects ? 
So, considering all these things, I would only 
impress "upon the hon. Minister and the 
Government of India through you that we 
should have a certain Centrally-sponsored 
Development Authority throughout the country 
to develop the backward regions, to create 
basic infra-structure so that the infra — 
streture will lead to further development and 
the proverty will be minimised in a certain 
limited period. 

SHRI NIMBALKAR (Kolhapur) : This 
is a very important subject. Many of us want 
to speak, but the time at our disposal is very 
short. 1, therefore, suggest that the time for 
this debate may please be extended. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) : 
The time may be extended by two hours. 

SOME HON. MEMBERS The time 
may be extended. 

MR. CHAIRMAN : There are many 
members from all sections of the House who 
want to speak on this. So, we will not be 
able to finish it before 5.30 p. m. There are 
bo many names from this side of the House 
as well as from the other side of the House. 
The debate will go on upto 5.30 p. m. At 
5.30 p. m. the half-an-hour discussion will be 
taken up. The debate on this will be carried 
forward tomorrow. Those who will not get 
the time today will be given time tomorrow. 

I am not in favour of extending the time of 
the House today. 

AN HON. MEMBER . What is the time 
allotted for this tomorrow ? 


1894 (SAKA) development of backward 398 
areas ( Motn .) 

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- 
TARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND 
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) s 
At least three to four hours will be needed to 
accommodate the members from all sections 
of the House. This is a crucial problem. You 
may please communicate this to Speaker and 
get more time allotted for this becaus^we 
would certainly like our Planning Minis^^o 
have the benefit of the views expressed from 
different sections of the House. It is a matter 
in regard to which we all feel very strongly in 
which we are all interested. So, the debate 
may continue till 5.30 and then some more 
time may be allotted some other day. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Why some 
other day ? Why not tomorrow ? 

SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : How is it possi- 
ble ? The Speaker is against extending the 
time after 6. He has expressed it on the floor 
of the House. 

• 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Upto 5.30 
I agree. You take a motion and let the 
House extend the time. 

SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : Tomorrow' we 
are having the (Constitution (Amendment) 
Bill. It is a very non- controversial Bill. We 
have kept it for the whole day. In case it is 
passed early and if the House so pleases, 
whatever time that may remain after discu- 
ssion and passing of the Constitution (Amend- 
ment) Bill may be utilised for this discussion. 

MR. CHAIRMAN : The Business Advi- 
sory Committee is meeting morrow. This will 
be put up before the Committee and they will 
decide the time and other things. The hon 
Minister is on the Committee. Because the 
Constitution (Amendment) BiH is there before 
the House, it will be taken up first and the 
decision of the Committee will be communica- 
ted to the House. 

SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola) : After 
the Constitution (Amendment) Bill, if there is 
time, we may utilise it for this. 

MR. CHAIRMAN: That I said. The 
item will be put down but the Committee will 
decide about the time and when it will be 
brought before the House for discussion. The 
Minister will communicate it to you. 

SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : I hope the 
hon. Members will certainly co-opcrate with 
us in having the Constitution (Amendment) 
Bill passed as early as possible. 



$99 


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AUGUST 16, 1972 


400 


development of backward 


THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI 
MOHAN DHARIA) : Sir, I agree that this 
discussion be given more time. But, unfortu- 
nately, as there are some prior engagements 
fixed for Mr. Dhar, that will not be conve- 
nient to him though it may be convenient 
to me. So, in that context, I suggest that this 
may be kept in view and if not tomorrow, it 
may be day after tomorrow. 

SHRI VASANT SATHE : We want both 
of you to be present. 

MR. CHAIRMAN : The Minister of 
Parliamentary Affairs is here and he has 
noted it down. He will certainly take note of 
your convenience. 

Shri D. N. Tiwary 

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^qrr ft? ?ft4 fqft^: qqrq^ ^rF«rq Tfr 


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qft % ftnt qqT qra^t ap a:|| ? 

qfter qqTfa apq ^ff? % arm ir 
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q^t ftrqT, arta qqqft fq^rfwf q?T f^qt- 
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403 Schemes for AUGUST 16, 1972 development of backward 404 

areas ( Motn .) 


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*rf SiRq ?3T7 cfa qq q^f aft 5Tt 
qq% qf^r fa*qfq%q ff qa;*ur ^ 
TfTg: 

“Balanced development of 
different parts of the country, exte- 
nsion of the benefit parts of economic 
progress to the less — developed 
regions and wide — spread diffusion 
of industry are among major aims 
of planned development. 

arsNr 30, 1956 qft ?q qrnrtft ?t 
kffc^qq <TKT fw «TT I qq ^ft^qq 

Jf q^ifc arn; ^fkqr % qf ^ «rr fir : 

“That it is aim of planning to 
help the areas lagging behind indus- 
trially, and continuous efforts should 
be made to make vital facilities avai- 
lable if the location of industries is 
otherwise suitable' 1 . 

%qqq t^qqihr sflffqq fqqif arfafrrK 

fW TT7!ft I, 27 fqqWR, 1969 sp> 


antft qtfkr if cHT frqt fo - 

“(l) decided to encourage setting 
up industrial undertakings in the back- 
ward areas. 

“(2) special aid for backward 
areas". 

qt srrar q?|ft qq ^ «ff 1 qq% qR fra^r 
qq 1971 Jf fq^ft Jf tr^ JffqqR |3TT 
«tt irPror: an^ tfart^r arm 

sr%5T JrfiTTTT sfi ^RTTf?r 

f?TTTSf ^ %• TT5^5 f-FTT «TT I «ff ^T^TTk 
PfTTsf ^7: 5k?r % 55T Tpaff | 1 
«rr fi> sr^r 
Tf ftr : 

.meagre investment by the centre 
and financial institutions is one of the 
factors holding up the State’s advance". 

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^R f4RT sres Jfff I I *nf 7T5T Jf ^>TT 
^5TT 3TRT | I T^ir 5Tf tfft ??TT% ^ ^ 
srtT: vfr »r^ 1 1 Jf «ff fwrr- 

=^R «TfcT % >ff «rr : 

“..called for an achievement-orie- 
nted approach to the economic develop- 
ment of UP". 

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^ Tf? qr 57T Jf 1 7k TRTf % TPR7ST 

^TRT 3TT ^•RTT I ^ qRT iRT | f¥ 

sr^r qryif Jf frepn |3rr 1 1 Jrfoq 

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an% t aftc qsq sk^r % 3TR fsrJr 3rr^ 
t, sksr % qRT, smff, srRfk ark 
15^157: jf TR% 3qRT fq^T 

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TTTgqr 1 

Jf ak Jr qkr fq% Jf 
tfff q?r>r q?qr 1 1 qsfk q^qr q 

% qq^°r qt?r qrffq qq qfr | 
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fqif qrq qtf ^ {£ I 3pT^ q^f T>| 

ar®3!T qr qqfq q^qr qqrqt arrqT qr 



405 Schemes for SRAVANA 25, 

qqift qft qftlftrer qft aqqt eft arfttq q?i 
fercrr affq q qrerc afa anar qgt % qtqft 
spt qWqTqfts qftf fftq *gT I ftftt ftqfft 
q fttert i qqqft qpmqftq aft?: 

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tt ft£tf*qq qger | i ?qftr qiq qrq 
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qg ^tt^TT^T qgt n>TPTT art qqreTC ft, 
ftfq^r ?q er*q> qrqq % qftf sqr^r qff 
f%?TT i arcqTqqq % ercqqf qft qrftt ft 1 
?q qq?;°T ft ^tsrr aft farm %?ff ft qcqrer 
ft ararqrcft q?qq 3 ; ft qrs arrar ft 1 %qq 
qrr m^q arreft ft 1 arq* q*ercar ft qftf 
arm qrft eft Praft fqft aprg qm ft 
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1 1 q ar^jrc q?: qftf jrc ft aft?: q ftt %q 
qqt q?: arcar erqr qftf 33- qqT ft 1 %q 
qgq ^f#t qqt 1 1 src q?; 3?r eft qrqt 
ftt qqm arc qqrerc «rc 1 ftfqrq q^fttrc 
?tct ft ftr ?q er?q> qftf sqTq qftf fan 
qqr I I aTKT eft?: ft fq?5?T | 3 TT ft 
aft?: ?rcq ftf ?rcq 3 ?ftrc?sf 5 ft 1 qgt qft 
arqerc qft anqTqrcq % ercqq tft farcft 
qrfgq 1 

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f ?nr arq?: q?r ft 1 ?w ft fq> q^f % aftq 
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fftrcerc % \ q^t fttft % qTftt ^?r mr^rc 
| \ faerft qftt ft sr? erro aftf qft, 


1894 (SAKA) development of backward 406 
areas (Motn.) 

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qft^ wrcq q^lf fftqi ft 1 qq eR's ftt 
arcq^T «rcq arm mfftft i 

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ft ftqNrrc qirftq qftf ft 1 ftfftqr ?ft 
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fqqT qqr ft 1 ^q?: qft fqrerc qft 

fqsrqrq: fr:^jer+ arm q?rc ft qVr ?i^ 
fq:g?qr qt ftr anqlf qrffti? 1 q^ej 
?qq ft qrtr eft?: ft fftsrq q^qiq ^ qq 
'fttq q?T fteft ft 1, fqfsTerf qq ar^qier q«ft 
% qanq q:q gan ft i qfqfareff qq ar^qrer 
q? r ft 1 arcqqft qg anqqr?: anqqq fttm 
fqr qeq qftrc ft fthft farm aft?: qeq qftq 
% qfqqq fqqjq ft ^qqr ft q^qiqt arc?: ft 

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srcfarc qqr eft?ff ft ftq qqr qftf ft?qt ft 1 
qgf ftrcft qft qrrc ft qrq srrq mer qft i 
qqr fterc arrqft qrq fqqT fttqT eft arcqT- 
qqq % mqq qgt qqqaq ftt arcft 1 

marc3?: ft argr qq ^qfttqrq afr qq 
aqq g 3 rc m 3ft?: farcrqft apr?qft ftt ^r 
qqrft qT ?ft ft qgt q* q^TCT qqt VT 
apr?; 3^ qqT fqqT q?rc ftterc eft qg qfeqT 
qgq faftftq qrr arm 1 3d rcqqT ft fqr 
?q rcTqrT?: qft ftqfq arm®T ftt qf ft 
aft* q?:qq* 3ft qrftf qq faqq* gf ft 1 
fqfttqrcr aft ft qrgr ftt *rc : 

qg qfttq sfq qTq qq qTq?: qr^r rcr?: 

qTfg fqqTfq qiqftt qrgg qftq qqm?: 1 

5 ^ qqerr ft fqr arq qftf qq^T* qftt ftt 
qqqn ft 1 q*q:R anre q>m qr^ft ft arq- 
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ft 1 ? q q?aq* gt fiprlft arqpsq ftt qf 

f « 



407 Schemes for AUGUST 

SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI 
(Bhubaneswar) : I want to pinpoint certain 
things with regard to the backward areas’ 
development* However I must at the outset 
refer to what my friend from the Swatantra 
party said about me in reference to the Naval 
Training Institute. I am happy to know that 
he has a very dear heart for me. I know why 
he is so despaired. This Parliament has taken 
out the privileges of the ex-rulers and also 
their privy purse. The people of Orissa have re- 
luctantly divested these ex-rulers of their power 
also. I understand why Shri P. K. Deo feels 
so much despaired after being divested of the 
three Ps because of the growing people's power 
in this country. But I do not despair. I try 
to get things done 

Shri Dharia and Shri Dhar are in charge 
of planning. Poverty is a gigantic problem in 
the country. Some latest studies have been 
made with regard to the magnitude of this 
problem in this country by Mr. Dandekar. 
In those studies it has coinc out that at the 
beginning of the Fourth Plan out of 532.7 
million people, 223.5 million, that is 41.9 per 
cent, live below the poverty line in this coun- 
try. The per capita income is Rs. 324 for the 
rural population and Rs. 486 foi the urban 
population. And 41.9 per cent live below 
this level. But neither the gross national 
product nor the average per capita income is 
any real index of general prosperity because 
in many villages I know that there are persons 
who are getting not even 50 paise a day. 
People have to take to the roots of the trees. 
So some of these figures are misleading. 

There is a cell in the Planning Commission 
which had made a study of the resources in 
the southeastern region which comprises 26 
districts of M. P., Orissa, Bihar, West Bengal 
and U. P. It is a revealing survey indeed. 
It says that the region comprises 1,35,000 sq. 
miles and 31.9 million people of whom 45 per 
cent belong to Scheduled Castes and Tribes. 
It produces 75 per cent of the country’s 
mineral output in value and is endowed with 
90 per rent of the coal reserves, 80 per cent 
of iron and 89 per cent of the manganese 
deposits and 60 per cent of the atomic ele- 
ments of the nation. Its hydel power poten- 
tial is estimated to yield 4217 mw, besides 
unlimited scope for development of thermal 
power. 

Mr. Chairman you are coming from the 
neighbouring region. You must be aware of 
published statistics. Statistics will say that 
Bihar and Orissa have got a huge public sector 


16, 1972 development of backward 408 

areas (Motn.) 

investment. There are two steel mills and 
really they are heavy capital consuming indus- 
tries. The ancillary industries which need to 
develop around these heavy mills which will 
provide employment to millions, and by which 
industries will spread to every home, these 
had not been taken care of. The Planning 
Commission must look into this aspect ; it is a 
must. 

In Orissa, we had electrified 2615 villages 
out of 46,000 villages. There are States which 
have got more than 5000 km of railway line 
while Orissa has got only 2115 kms of railway 
line. Other States have got 53, 60, 89 etc. 
miles of road for every hundred square miles. 
But Orissa has got only 37 miles of road per 
hundred square miles. In the field of irriga- 
tion, Bihar and Orissa are almost equal. In 
Bihar, area irrigated is about 16 per cent 
and in Orissa it is a little about 15 percent. 
In the distribution of backward population, 
Orissa has the highest percentage 40 per cent. 
Other States have got 10, 15 or 20. This is 
the magnitude of the problem of backward 
regions in different spheres. 

The Planning Commission lias identified 
223 districts as backward districts. Why not 
form a Backward Development Authority ? 
Mr. Dandekar has suggested for planning for 
an annual investment of Rs. 1000 crores for 
some years for developing backward regions. 
I suggest that there should be a Backward 
Areas Development Authority with an initial 
capital of Rs. 8090 crores, with mandatory 
power from Parliament. It should not be like 
the boards set up for Rayalaseeina in Telen- 
gana. These kinds of boards devoid of manda- 
tory authority never help. 

The Planning Commission has allotted 10 
per cent of the entire plan for the backward 
States. But if you look into the budget of the 
State Governments, what do you find ? Capital 
attracts capital. Infrastructure attracts indus- 
tries. These are the economic laws. The 
only regions which advance are the region* 
around metropolitan cities like Calcatta, Delhi, 
Bombay and Madras 46 per cent of the indus- 
tries in West Bengal are situated within 40 
miles of Calcutta. Similarly Bombay. This 
problem of regional imbalance should be 
solved in the remaining two years of the fourth 
plan and in the fifth plan. I insist that during 
these years, regional imbalances must be 
corrected. We invite Mr, Dharia and Mr. 
Dhar to come and visit the backward regions 
and identify them. Let them have district 
planning cells. Every district must have a 



409 


kdations with 


SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA) China {ti.AM. Disc.) 410 


planning unit. Whatever money you are 
going to allot in the remaining two years of 
the fourth plan and in the fifth plan for the 
backward regions, you should separately allot 
so much money for each backward district 
and that district development authority will 
be authorised to utilise that money. 

Of course, the Planning Commission have 
taken certain steps for removal of regional 
imbalances. They have appointed committees 
and the reports of the committees are there. 
You should de-license the backward regions in 
respect of industries so that they can be star- 
ted in the backward areas. Then, it is said 
there is black money to the extent of Rs. 
3000 or 4000 crores. Give them five years' 
time to go to the backward areas and invest 
their black money there for turning it into 
white money and in the process develop the 
223 backward districts. My suggestion may 
not appear radical to some, but I think this 
can be considered. 

MR. CHAIRMAN : Before taking up the 
Half-an-Hour discussion I want to make one 
point very dear. The fixation of more time 
for this motion will go to the Business Advisory 
Committee. So far as the day for further 
discussion of this motion is concerned, that 
will be decided by the Government. 

17.30 hrs. 

HALF-AN-HOUR DISCUSSION 
Normalisation of Relations with China 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA (Contai) : Mr. 
Chairman, just a few days before, in reply to 
one of my questions, Shri Surendra Pal Singh 
replied that our Ambassador in Waisaw had 
a courtesy meeting with his Chinese counter 
part there. I would have been happy if it had 
been described as “a couiteous meeting of 
exchange of good will between Indian and 
Chinese Ambassadors”. 

It is good news that our charge d ' affairs in 
Peking, Shri Brijesh Mishra, had a good chat 
with the Chinese officials in Peking on the 
15th August celebrations in our mission there. 
It came over the radio and I say it is a good 
sign. Though it will be disappointing to us 
that China has blocked the entry of Bangla- 
desh into UNO, I think wc need not be too 
much disappointed because wc have given the 
opportunity to Shri Bhuttoo to play the 
diplomatic game on us with the help of 
China. For instance, if we had agreed to 
enter into a peace treaty with Pakistan, after 


the recognition of Bangladesh perhaps Shri 
Bhutto would not have got an opportunity to 
play China on Bangladesh. 

I want to caution the Government that 
some kind of a new pattern of new politics is 
developing. At least, Shri Bhutto is trying to 
develop a new politics of Pindi-Peking-Tchran 
axis. And I believe Government know the 
Shah of Iran has shown a certain gesture to 
Peking. I think our Foreign Ministry has 
taken note of that. 

Recently, a very radical political step has 
been taken by the Big Powers. The border line 
of the international politics of alignment and 
non-alignment is almost missing. I think a 
completely new pattern is developing in in- 
ternational depiomatic relations after the 
meeting of Mr. Nixon with Mr. Mao Tse 
Tung and Mr. Biezhnev. 

The Hon. Minister should also take note of 
the fact that there is radical change in the 
inside politics of China. After the Cultural 
Revolution of China wc noticed a certain 
tendency. That tendency is gradually chang- 
ing to a new pattern of diplomacy. China is 
trying to normalise its relations with other 
powers from whom it tried to withdraw. 
Another significant factor is that some kind 
of metamorphosis is going on inside China. 
The tussle between the civil wing and the 
military wing of the Communist Party is 
coming to an end. With the liquidation of 
Lia Piao, the civil wing is more or less in 
control to decide the fate of China. That is 
a very significant event in regard to Chinese 
politics and Chinese point of view on inter- 
national relations We already notice certain 
changes, at least in their attitude towards 
Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos and her ap- 
proach to Japan. 

I should also like to draw your attention 
to the fact that China’s attitude towards India 
is also changing. In 1967, 1968 and in 1969 
perhaps, we remember almost every day, China 
was encouraging Naxalites ovci Peking Radio 
and China was thinking — some news appeared 
in their official paper — that Indian States were 
going to disintegrate. They were giving all 
kinds of inspiration to Naxalites to go ahead. 
But they have now changed their attitude. 
Not only they have stopped that, not only 
they are not supporting Naxalites, but certain 
radical changes have taken place in the Sub- 
continent... 

AN HON. MEMBER : What about their 
support to Pakistan ? ( Interruption .) 



411 


Relations with 


AUGUST 16, 1972 


China (HJ.H. Disc.) 


412 


SHRI SAMAR GUHA : What I was 
going to say is that we certainly find China 
has noticed that Naxalite problem has com- 
pletely changed theie is no hope for the 
Naxalitcs, and the China's attitude towards 
Naxalitcs and the forces of disintegration has 
also changed. China has noticed that all 
their help to Nagas, and Mizos has also 
failed ; that the batches of Nagas and Mizos 
they had trained have been caught by 
India. Then, China has noticed that with the 
annihilation of Pakistani rule over Bangladesh, 
there is a radical change in regard to the 
possibility of poking their nose in the Indian 
sub-continent. Apart from that, wc have 
noticed a certain low-key attitude of China 
during the conflict between India and Pakistan 
in relation to Bangladesh. 

I mention all this because China wanted 
to have a certain point or political base to 
enter into the politics of Indian sub-continent. 
The things have changed. China is now being 
obliged to make a thorough change, if I may 
not use the word “thoiough" change but a 
certain change is already indicated in the 
attitude of China towards India. 

I want to quote Han Suyin’s interview, in 
November 1971, from a Chinese papers in 
which she has made a very significant state- 
ment after meeting one of the dose associates 
of Chou En-lai. It says : 

“China desires India to be strong 
and at peace. . " 

“The olficial insistently remarked the 
sub-continent should be kept clear of big 
power influence and the aim of “im- 
perialist powers” to shower mistrust and 
provoke ( lashes between India and 
China. . . . 

MR. CHAIRMAN: This is Unstarred 
Question No. 634 on which you have raised a 
half-an-hour discussion. The Question was 
put by Shri S. M. Banerjce and Shri R. S. 
Pandcy, The Minister’s reply is, “India is 
still awaiting China’s response to her earlier 
move in this regard.” 

Now, you arc giving your own impres- 
sions as to what is China doing. 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Alipore) : 
This is a very profound analysis that he is 
making. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : I know that 
there is a group of politicians in India. 
Whenever there is any alignment or good 


gesture to other than one axis, that cicatcs 
trouble with them* Wc understand their 
politics. I understand Mr. Indrajit Gupta 
also quite well. And further, the Report 
says : 

“He hopes that ‘India will see her 
way clear of the control of her own 
destiny. . . .' 

“China desires that India should 
remain united and independent. It is not 
in the interest of any one except im- 
perialism, open or disguised, that India 
should break up.” 

This is a statement which is very important. I 
mention this because there arc certain indica- 
tions of change in China’s attitude towaids 
India. 

There is another point about the axis of 
rivalry. That China has also radically 
changed. That was mainly with India, After 
1962, the axis has changed. This axis is no 
longer there. This is not the axis of rivalry 
between Delhi-Peking but now it is between 
Peking-Moscow. We should realise its signi- 
ficance. It is good and I appreciate the 
Government that they arc not over-playing the 
Indo-Sovict Peace Treaty. Rather, our 
Government is emphasizing the politics of 
non-alignment and the politics of self-reliance. 
This is absolutely necessaiy. It is absolutely 
necessary for our future relations with China. 
If you really want to develop a base of peace 
in the sub-continent, it is essential that we 
disentangle ourselves from all international 
bloc alignments. It is essential that we try to 
develop good neighbourly relations with China. 
In fact China is now afraid of a weaker India. 
But China will appreciate a stronger India. 
A weaker India may play the role of a second 
fiddle to some big power. About the new axis, 
the new axis of rivalry between Peking and 
Moscow may affect India to go on the side 
against China Therefore, China will prefer a 
stronger India and not a weaker India. The 
political situation has changed. 

Now it is the time that India should try 
to take initiative in normalising relations with 
China. Ours is not the position of 1962. After 
1965 and 1971, the image of India in the 
international world and also at home has 
undergone a change. Therefore, wc can talk 
with China from the point of strength and 
from the point of self confidence and not with 
any sense of inferiority complex. 

You were now talking about the actual 



413 


Relations with 


SRAVANA 25, 1894 (, SAKA ) 


China (HAM. Disc.) 414 


line of control in Kashmir. Thu can be an 
indirect communication to China to settle our 
border dispute with her. 

I conclude by saying that, for the Future, 
for ensuring a real, socialist base, for sodo- 
economic development of India, it is absolutely 
essential that the Indian sub-continent should 
be made a base of peace. That peace is 
possible if we can normalise our relations with 
China and develop good neighbourly relations 
with them. That is why I have raised this 
discussion. 

SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY (Chit- 
toor) : I would like to know from the Minis- 
ter of External Adairs whether any edoris or 
any moves have been initiated by third 
countries to bring about a better relationship 
or a thaw in the relationship between India 
and China. We have reports that Mrs. 
Bandaranaike, Prime Minister of Ceylon, 
during her visit, was instrumental to bringing 
about a message or some sort of a move with 
a view to breaking the immobility or the 
deadlock in the relations between India and 
China on account of the border dispute. I 
want to know whether there is any such 
move or any edorts have been made at the 
initiative of this country and if so, what are 
the elforts that we are making to normalise 
our relationship with China, to resume our 
diplomatic relations with China. 

SHRI DAS AR ATI I A DEB (Tripura 
East) : We had hostilities with China owing 
to border dispute. But now, for the last ten 
years, there has been a lull in the border. It 
appears that the Government of the Peoples 
Republic of China have already indicated 
their eagerness to normalise relations with 
India. In view of this changed situation, I 
do not see any reason why it should not be 
possible for India and China to normalise 
their relations. I also want to know what 
specific steps arc being taken by the Govern- 
ment of India to establish full diplomatic 
relations with China and also trade relations. 
My another point is this. Every one of us 
knows that imperialist America is the number 
one enemy of the socialist China. If President 
Nixon could go to Peking to talk to the 
leaders of China to improve their relationship, 
what stands in the way of the Government of 
India to take the initiative to normalise the 
relations with China ? 

PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR 
(Hamirpur) ; As a part of the process of nor- 
malisation of relations with China, our Govern* 


ment has been sending some feelers and one 
of them, I believe, is an invitation conveyed 
to the Chinese Government to take part in 
the Third International Asian Trade Fair to 
be held in Delhi. May I know China’s res- 
ponse to this? 

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Relations with 


AUGUST 16, 1972 


China (H.A.H. Due.) 


416 


THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFF- 
AIRS (SHRI SWARAN SINGH): Ihavelisten- 
ed with a great deal of interest to the expres- 
sion of different points of view and different 
emphasis that has been laid on this question. 

Shri Samar Guha appears to have talked 
with a great deal of insight into the intentions 
of the People’s Republic of China. I am not 
sure whether China has changed or not, but, 
there is definitely a change in Mr. Samar 
Guha. It is a welcome change, whatever may 
be the background and the reasons for this 
change. 

We should continuously go on assessing 
the situation. There is no fixed position and 
if the international situation changes, then 
we should also be prepared to our attitudes 
and our approach to the changing situation. 
That is the essence of any foreign policy and 
we should take note of the changes and take 
appropriate steps in older to keep pace with 
these changes. 

So far as the broad policy of the Govern- 
ment of India is concerned, we have always 
been of the view that the people of India and 
the people of China are great people and they 
are neighbours — geography has placed them 
together — and whatever may be the differences 
or disputes between the two countries, I can- 
not see any escape from the ultimate emergence 
of a situation where the people of India and 
the people of China would live in peace and 
as good neighbours. 

In the meantime, we have always been of 
the view that relations between India and 
China should improve. There is no doubt 
that relations between the two countries deteri- 
orated very much ; there was an armed con- 
flict between the two countries. After that 
also, the general attitude of China has not 
been one of expressing any friendly feeling or 
friendship towards India. In fact, we have 
noticed, as Mr. Samar Guha mentioned, their 
support to certain disruptive elements in India. 
There is also their general propaganda line 
of trying to project a picture of India as a 
disintegrating India, highlighting our troubles 
either on the labour front or on the front of 
industrial production or food production ; 
this, unfortunately, has been the attitude of 
China. At one time Mr. Samar Guha used 
to summarise all these things in an admirable 
manner and he used to urge us to take a more 
militant attitude towards China. We had, 
however, resisted that temptation and always 


took an attitude which we thought was in 
our best interests. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : If I am a realist, 
am I wrong ? If I find changes, I also change. 

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : When the 
praise comes, take it in good spirit. Don’t fed 
rattled when you are praised. While keeping 
our objective to do everything possible to 
improve relations, our main effort has been 
not to do anything which unnecessarily exacer- 
bates relations between India and China. But, 
at the same time, we have to take a realistic 
view of the situation as it is today. 

I have made several public statements. 
I have made statements on the floor of the 
House expressing our desire, our willingness, 
our readiness, to improve relations with China. 
Unfortunately, unless Mr. Samar Guha has 
some inside information, we have not received 
a good response. Our attitude still continues 
to be to do everything to improve relations, 
to remove misunderstanding. But, the latest 
propaganda blast which China has undertaken 
in several respects is not a very good develop- 
ment and I do not see any noticeable change 
in their attitude towards India and their atti- 
tude of highlighting our difficulties, and their 
trying to paint a picture which shows India 
in unfavourable stance still continues. 

SHRI S. M. B\NERJEE (Kanpur) : What 
is your opinion about their vetoing Bangladesh’s 
admission in the United Nations ? 

SHRI SWARAN SINGH: On the question 
of Bangladesh, the entire House knows the 
attitude of the Chinese representatives. We 
know what their attitude was when the situa- 
tion in Bangladesh was developing and also 
when the Pakistani attack came on us And 
also, their attitude in the U. N. O. These £.rc 
all facts, known to every one. Surely, even 
if you give a most charitable interpretation, 
you cannot say that they were unbiassed in 
thi9 respect. Their attitude was tilted in favour 
of Pakistan, and, unfortunately, in favour of 
a military regime, Yahya Khan regime, which 
had unleashed that terror and violence against 
the people of Bangladesh. 

Even today, our neighbour Bangla Desh 
is recognised by four out of the five perma- 
nent members of the Security Council. Over 
80 members of the United Nations have alrea- 
dy recognised Bangla Desh, which means that 
the majority of the membership of the United 
Nations has recognised Bangla Desh. But still 



417 


JReiatioru with 


SRAVANA 2$, 1894 (SAKA) Ckina (H.A M. Disc.) 418 


the Chinese altitude in the United Nations 
appears to be to block the entry of Bangla 
Desh. It is all the more, I should say, tragic 
that a country like the People’s Republic of 
China, whose own entry to the United Nations 
had been blocked by others is now adopting 
an attitude against the majority view of the 
UN members and threatening to exercise the 
exceptional right which permanent members 
of the Security Council have, to veto her 
entry into the United Nations. The power of 
veto is a power which is very sparingly exer- 
cised when issues of peace and war are invol- 
ved. To keep a country of 75 million out and 
to threaten the use of veto is certainly not a 
very encouraging feature ; which holds out 
great possibilities of normalisation of relations; 
in the attitude of China in relation to the 
countries of the Indian sub-continent. 

I am not quite sure whether President 
Bhutto is making their attitude more strong 
or whether it is ihe Chinese attitude which 
perhaps is encouraging Mr. Bhutto again to 
adopt an attitude which, according to our 
assessment does not appear to be in the best 
interests even of Pakistan or of President 
Bhutto. But this is a fact which we cannot 
ignore and we cannot explain it away and we 
cannot wish it away by any argument. What- 
ever may be various axes, whether it is friend- 
ly between Peking and other countries or an 
unfriendly attitude between Peking and third 
countries, we should carefully assess our own 
position and our own attitude. We were hop- 
ing that relations with China would improve, 
and to be quite frank, I had a feeling that 
they were moving though very slowly towards 
impiovement, before the situation in Bangla 
Dcsh developed. We should take a realistic 
view, with the Chinese attitude in relation to 
the events in Bangla Dcsh, in relation to the 
movement of about ten million refugees from 
Bangla Desh into India, in relation to the 
Pakistani attack on us, in relation to their 
general assessment of what was happening in 
this sub-continent where human rights of 
millions of people were actually trampled 
under the military pressure and military atro- 
cities ; the Chinese attitude v as not such as 
could by any imagination be regarded as 
impartial. In fact, it was heavily weighted 
in favour of the military regime which was 
crushing the urges of the people of Bangla 
Dcsh for their own independence and for the 
preservation of their human rights. 

This attitude again caused a setback to 
the Blow process of improvement that was 


taking shape before the events of Bangla Desh 
took the shape which they did. 

18 hrs. 

1 am not yet clear as to whether there 
has been a clear reversal or a change or even 
a softening of the attitude in this respect. 
Whereas our ultimate objective is clear, still 
we cannot improve the relations unless there 
is a response from the other side. As they 
say, you cannot achieve such a thing by 
unilaterally pressing your viewpoint. After 
all, there have to be two to strengthen friend- 
ship as also there are to be two if there is 
going to be trouble. Notwithstanding our 
willingness to improve relations, at the present 
moment, I do not sec any clear response from 
the Chinese side. 

What should we do in this situation ? We 
should not do anything which unnecessarily 
exacerbates relations. At the same time, we can- 
not continue to go on repeating this thing with- 
out a projier response. So we must as a mature 
nation watch the situation and should carc- 
full see as to how things are emerging. We 
have to safeguard our interests ; we have to 
safeguard the basic interests of peace in this 
sub-contincnt, of our relations with Bangla 
Dcsh and with Pakistan in this neighbourhood, 
and it is only in the light of this that wc can 
take further steps to normalise relations. 

With your permission, I would like to 
answer very briefly the three questions put. 
To the first by Shri Reddy, my reply is that 
there has been no effort made by any third 
country to take any initiative for bringing 
about improvement of relations between 
India and China. Our approach in this 
respect has always been that whenever the 
relations between these two great countries, 
India and China, being neighbours, being 
large countries, improve, they will improve 
only by bilateral effort and any friendly 
association or friendly move by a third country 
is not likely to yield any useful result. 

The question of sending an ambassador 
or raising the diplomatic representation to 
ambassadorial level is only a question of 
raising the level of representation. We have 
got a resident mission in Peking and Chinese 
got a resident mission in Delhi. Either country 
on any occasion can notify the other that it 
has decided to upgrade the level of represen- 
tation. No wide or important principle is 
involved in this. If we find that by upgrading 
the level of representation our contacts there can 
be established at a higher level to some useful 



Relations with 


AUGUST 16, 1972 


China {H.A.H. Disc.) 


420 


419 


[Shri Swaran Singh] 

purpose, we will not hesitate to do so* As I 
said, there is no question of any wide principle 
involved one way or the other in this respect. 

I have already answered one question 
asked by Shri Deb. The other is about trade 
relations. We are prepared to have economic 
relations with China. If they are prepared 
to buy anything, we are prepared to sell it to 
them. If we require something from China, 
we are prepared to purchase from them. 
Political differences need not come in the way 
of economic relations. 

Another question asked was about our 
invitation to them for their participation in 
the Trade Fair. We did extend an invitation 
to them, that they should participate in the 
Trade Fair being organised. We have not so 
far got any response from them. 

I am glad the CPI «(M) member has 
quoted the example of President Nixon’s 
flight to Peking. As you know, we have 
always welcomed the relaxation of tension in 


any part of the world, between any two 
adversaries. We have also to remember that 
behind President Nixon’s flight was a long 
period of informal contacts and most of the 
understandings, according to our information, 
had been achieved even before President 
Nixon went to Peking, as a result of several 
contacts, about which the whole world now 
knows, that were established at a fairly high 
level between China and the USA. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : America 
followed it up after sending a ping pong 
team to China. We did not follow that 
way. 

Then, I think the Jan Sangh Member’s 
question does not call for any reply because 
he did not put any question as such to me. 

18.06 hrs. 

The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of 
the Clock on Thursday , August 17, 1972fSravana 
26, 1894 ( Saka ). 


Tej Kumar Press (P) Ltd., Lucknow — 4*9-1972 — 1010* 



CONTENTS 


No. 13 — Thursday > August 17 , 1972jSravana 26, 1894 (Saka) 


'Oral Answers to Questions — 

i 

| •Starred Questions Nos. 
>Short Notice Question No 2 
Written Answers to Qaestions 
Starred Questions Nos. 
Unstarred Questions Nos 


241 to 245, 248, 250 anJ 2>I 


246, 247, 249 and 252 to 260 

2180 to 2392, 2394 fo 2412, 
2415 to 2444, 2446 to 2456, 
2458 to 2494, 2496 to 2510. 
2512 to 2*21, 2523 to 2538, , 
2540 to 2546 and 2548 to 
2579. 


Calling Attention to Matter of Uigcnt Public Importance — 

* Reported Smuggling of foreign watches etc by sim: 
European Consular officials in Calcutta 

Papers Laid on the Table 

Messages from Rajya Sablia 

Victoria Memorial (Amendment) Bill— 

As passed by Rajya Sabha 

Central Sales Tax Amendment) Bill — 
p Report of Select Committee and Evidence 

Qills Introduced — 

(l) Wild Life (Protection) Bill 

* 

(li) Seeds (Amendment) Bill 
Constitution (Thirtieth Amendment) Bill — 

► 

^lotion to consider 

Shri H. R. Gokhale 
Shri Somnath Chatterjee 


COLUMN'S 

1 -40 
30 -41 

40 —52 


51—188 

189—92 

192—94 

104 


194 

P,4-- 5 

195 
195 

196—27 
196—98. 224 -32 
199-204 


♦The sign -f marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question *as 
dually asked on tl e House by that Member. 



(ii) 


Shri R. V. Bade 

Shn Jagannath Rao 

Shri A. K. Sen 

Shri O. K. Panda 

Shn R. D. Bhandare 

Shn Shyamnandan Mishra 

Shn Dinesh Chandra Goswami 

Shri G. Viswanathan 

Clauses 2, 3 and 1 

Motion to Pass 7 

Income Tax (Amendment) B:ll, 1972 — 
Motion to consider 

Shri K. Baladhandayutham 
Shri K. R. Ganesh 
Clauses 2 to 6 and 1 
Motion to Pass 
Shri Shivnath Singh 
Shri K. R. Ganesh 

public Debt (Amendment) Bill — 
Motion to consider 
Shri K. R. Ganesh 
Shri Dasaratha Deb 
Shri K. M. Madhukar 
Shri K. Narayana Rao 
Shri C. T. Dhandapani 
Clauses 2 to 5 and 1 
Motion to Pass 
Dr. Laxminarain Pandeya 




221—23 * 

4 

223—24 
240—70 * 
262 

270—76 
270—72 
272—74 . 
274 
274 

274—75 

276 

* 

276—82 

276—78 

278 

278— 79 

279— 80 
280 
281 
281 
281—8^ 


t 



(Hi ) 


Sbri K. R. Ganesh 


... 

COLUMNS 

282 

Taxation Laws (Amendment) Bill — 

Motion to consider, as reported by Select Committee 



282—316 

Shii Yeshwantrao Chavan 


... 

282—88 

Shri Virendra Aggarwal 


... 

288—91 

Shri B. R. Shukla 


... 

291—95 

Shri Dasaratha Deb 


... 

295—98 

Shri G. Viswanathan 


... 

299—301 

Shri K. Baladhandayutham 

* 

... 

301—06 

Shri K. Narayana Rao 


... 

307—10 

Shri C. M. Stephen 


... 

310—14 

Shri Satpal Kapur 


... 

314—16 




LOK SABHA DEBATES 


1 

LOK SABHA 

Thursday , August 17 . 1972/Sravana 26 s 1894 
(Saka) 


The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the 
Clock 

[Mr. Speaker w the Chair ] 


ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 
Bill on Industrial Relations 

*241. SHRI C. T. DHANDAPANI ; 
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether all the Labour Trade Unions 
have been consulted with regard to the 
introduction of the Industrial Relations 
Bill; and 

(b) if so, what were their views 0 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF LABOUR AND REHA 
BIL1TAT1UN (SHRI BALGOVIND 
VERM A) : (a) and (b). The pioposed 
comprehensive Industrial Relations law 
will take into account the various views 
expressed during protracted consultations, 
with the tiade unions and others, that have 
taken place since the Government received 
the report of the National Commission on 
Labour. 

SHRI C. T. DHANDAPANI : Every 
body knows the state of industrial rela- 
tions and the number of man-days lost due 
to lack of understanding between the 
management and employ sees. What 
spccificaction is being taken by the Govern* 
meat and when are they going to implement 
the suggestions ? 


2 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL- 
KAR): The question is about industrial rela- 
tions law and we contemplate bringing for 
ward a Bill on the basis of the recommenda- 
tions of the National Labour Commission. 
We placed it before the tripartite body, the 
last national labour conference. The three 
national trade unions met together as a 
group and they have submitted their agree- 
ment. On that basis we are bringing for- 
ward that legislation. As For the second 
part, we are in "consulation with the State 
Labour Ministers and 1 think I should be 
able to introduce legislation in the next 
session. 

SHRI B. V. NAIK : Is that Bill going 
to be only bilateral relationship between 
labour and capital or between labour and 
management 0 Are you also going to consider 
the points of view of the consumers whe- 
ther individual or collective or group ? 
Will the consumers’ point of view be tak?n 
up as part of the industrial relationship ? 

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: Every time 
we take up this question of industrial 
relationship, we keep in mind the probable 
effect that it will have on the consumers. 
Beyond that there is no special organisation 
whom we could consult. 

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SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : So far as 
the proposed legislation is concerned, we 
consult the three national trade unicn 
centres along with the employees’ organisa- 
tions and state Govts. About the first 
part of the question, I would assure him 
that we are consulting the State Labour 
Ministers and all the recommendations, as 
far as possible, made by the National 
Labour Commission will be given effect to, 
keeping in view the general consensus that 
we have arrived at. 

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SHRF R. K. KHADILKAR : That is 
not one of the three national trade union 
centres. Certainly I talk with their leaders 
but not as an organisation. 

SHRF A P SHARMA : It is gratifying 
to note that the minister has consulted the 
three national trade union centres, as he 
calls them. May I know whether this 
Industrial Relations Bill is also going to 
affect the lakhs of Central Government 
employees and may I know whom he is 
going to consult about them. 

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR Central 
Government employees are goverred 
sepaiately under the JCM. Th'ir machinery 
for consultation is different. They are by 
comention not governed by industrial law. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : It appears 
from the answer tha he will be able to intro- 
duce a Bill in the next session. In the 
meantime, there is going to be a fast 
deterioration in the industrial relations in 
the country because of the rising prices and 
the demand by the workers for wage rise 
and bonus. In the intervening period, is 
he going to convene any meeting of the 
central trade union organisations and other 


organisations connected with certain pro- 
blems to <ee that r dustrial relations improve 
because there is going 10 be labour trouble 
in every p'acc ? 

MR. SPEAKER Please do not 
make a speech. 

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : The three 
national trade union centres have formed a 
Council of Trade Unions. Through that, 
they can take up certain matters and 
approach the Government. So far as rising 
prices and other causes for industrial 
discontent are concerned, wc deal with them 
separately. This is not a form for dealing 
with individual problems. 

SHRI S M. BANERJEE : What about 
the demand for wage rise and bonus ? 

SHRI A. P. SHARMA : Industrial 
relations do not deal with wages and bonus. 

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : That is 
right. Industrial relations law does not 
deal with wage structure and bonus 

MR. SPFAKER ■ You do not recognise 
the Chair He does not recognise the 
Chair. What am I to do ? Kindly have a 
look at me also; 

SHRI R K. KHADILKAR : Yes, Sis. 

SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY : It 
is gratifying that the Labour Minister is 
consulting the labour organisations befoie 
enacting laws. Will he advise the other 
ministries also to consult the other interests 
at the tunc of enacting laws ? 

MR. SPEAKER : Please be relevant to 
tins question. 

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SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : The Bharat 
Mazdoor Sangh has ideological affiliations 
with Jan Sangh. They have got limited 
strength. 



5 ' Oral Answers 


SRAVANA 26, 1894 (SAKA) 


Oral Answers 6 


MR. SPEAKER : Questions should not 
be asked in a provocative manner. That 
is not good. Do not provoke them. Then 
it will be a headache which is transferred 
to me. You quietly sit down and I have 
to deal with them. 

SHRI P. M. MEHTA : As amicable 
relationship between the management and 
labour does not exist in the public sector 
undertakings of this country, do the govern- 
ment propose to have strict application of 
this legislation to the public sector under- 
takings ? 

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : Industial 
law will apply to public sector undertakings 
as well. 

Closure of Iron ore Mining Industries 
in Bibar and Orissa 

4 " 

♦242, SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : 

SHRI RAM SHEKHAR PRASAD 
SINGH : 

Will the Minister of STEEL AND 
MINES be pleased to state : 

(a) whether iron ore mining industries 
m the Barajamda and Banspam areas of 
Bihar and Orissa are facing closuie; 

(b) whether 10,000 workers have already 
been retrenched from January to March, 
1972; and 

(c) the steps being taken by Govern- 
ment in this regard ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) Govern- 
ment is aware of the difficulties being faced 
by some of the iron ore mines in Bihar- 
Orissa resulting in the closure of some of 
them. 

<b) No, Sir. 

(c) The matter has been under constant 
review, in consulation with the Ministry of 
Railways with a view to Improve the 
supply of the required number of wagons^ 
for movement of the iron ore. 


SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : May 
I know whether it is a fact that the Gene- 
ral Secretary of the Orissa Chamber of 
Commerce has made a categorical state- 
ment that the retrenchment has been much 
bigger because of the failure of the rail- 
ways for the last two years to move iron 
ore from mine site for export via Paradip 
and the shortfall was one million tonnes 
during 1970-71 and 1971-72 ? If so, how 
far this statement is true ? What steps 
have been taken in this regard ? 

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN : It is 
true that the railways had have some difficul- 
ty in moving the iron ore from the area for 
export via Paradip. Even though the 
target for export through Paradip was 18 
lakhs tonnes, the actual performance was 
13.45 lakhs tonnes, leaving a shortfall of 
about 5 lakhs tonnes. 

SHRI RAM SHEKHAR PRASAD 
SINGH : In reply to part (a) of the ques- 
tion the Minister has stated that some of 
these mines have been closed. Which are 
those mines and how many of them are in 
Bihar ? What is the position of the work- 
ers in those mines which are closed ? Will 
they be absorbed elsewhere or will they 
continue to be unemployed ? 

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN : The 
total number of workers affected so far 
vanes from 1,800 to 2,000. Though there 
has been no large-scale retrenchment, there 
has been fairly large-scale lay off. The 
mines affected are : Kasia-Barpada Iron 
Ore Mines No. 1 and 2. Seramda-Bhadrassai 
Manganese Mine No. 1 and 2, Guah Iron 
Mine Jaruri Iron Ore Mine, Gorumahi- 
«ani Iron Mine and Purnapam Iron Mine. 

SHRI VASANT SATHE : In view of 
the fact* that a large number of employees 
as has been stated just now, are laid off, 
may I know from the hon. Mmis'er whether 
these persons have been paid lay off compen- 
sation under the Industrial Disputes Act ? 

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN : That 
strictly does not come within the purview 
of the Ministry of Steel and Mines. I 
presume that the law on the subject will be 
obe^d. {Interrupt ion) There are definite 
rules and regulations on the subject of lay- 
off and those are adhered to. 



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Oral Answers 8 


1 


Bombing of North Vietnam 

*243. SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Will 
the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 
pleased to slate : 

(a) whether the United States Air Force 
planes have attacked the dyke system in 
North Vietnam several times in recent weeks 
re ulting in heavy loss of life to civilian 
population; 

(b) if so, whether India has made any 
efforts to rouse world opinion against such 
inhuman and barbarous attack on the 
civilian population in that country; and 

(c) if so, the nature of the efforts made 
in this direction ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) The 
DRVN Government have informed the 
Government of India of the serious damage 
caused to their dyke svstem by the U. 
S. bombings and loss of civilian lives. 

(b) and (c). Government of India have 
consistently opposed the U. S. bombings of 
Vietnam and expressed serious concern 
over the situation resulting therefrom. This 
open reiteration of our stand on the subject 
is in itself a powerful element in mobilising 
world opinion. 

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Since meek 
and mild gesture of moral reprobation of 
the impossibly atrocius conduct of the 
American imperialists appear to be incons- 
equential, nriy I know whether the Go\ em- 
inent has proceeded n the matter of recog- 
nit'on of the Provisional Revolutionary 
Government of south Vietnam wh ch would 
be a proper answer to the operation of bom- 
bings in such barbaric fashion ? 

THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL 
AFFAIRS (SHRI SWARAN SINGH) : It is 
a suggestion for action. 

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Efforts 
made in the direction include not only 
moral gestures of the kind Sardar Sahib 
made but also certain diplomatic and other 
steps in this direction. I do not know what 
is happening in this regerd. 


MR. SPEAKER : 1 am just keeping 
silent over it because it is a very important 
Question But, I think, he should remain 
near about the Question. 

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Mysubmis- 
sion is that it comes within the ambit of 
the Question. 

MR. SPEAKER : You have gone to 
the P. R. G. and all that. 

SHRI H, N/ MUKERJEE : If you 
could give me time enough, I could give you 
arguments for it, that it comes within the 
ambit of the Question. 

In view of the special responsibility 
devolving upon the Government of India to 
concretise its sen'.e of protest against 
American imperialism and the r bombing in 
Vietnam, may I know why it is that the 
External Aflairs Minister at Guyana appea- 
red to be more apologetic about the walk- 
out of Indonesia and Malysia rather than 
be positne about the admission of P. R. G, 
which would have shown that we do not 
follow a namby pamby policy in foieign 
affairs ? 

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : I am sorry 
I do not agree with the assessment of my 
attitude in Guyana which the hon. Member 
has formed. 1 think, it is based on incomp- 
lete informarion about all that happened in 
Guyana. 

MR. SPEAKER : You could put a 
direct question on that. I am sorry 1 allowed 
him to side-track form the main Question 
to P. R. G. and Guyana. This is about the 
bombardment of the dyke system in North 
Vietnam. I would request the Members to 
confine themselves to the Question. 

SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOSWAMI: 
May I know whether in the recent Confere- 
nce which the hon. Minister of External 
Affairs attended, this matter was formally or 
informally discussed or, even if it was not 
discussed, whether any feeler was thrown 
from the Indian side un this matter ? 

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : I must 
inform the House that this matter of bom- 
bing of dykes is now known to the entire 
world. In the initial stages some feeble 



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Oral Answers 10 


attempts were made by the U.S.A. Admini- 
stration to deny, but f think, more and 
more evidence that has no-v been 
available, particularly from independent 
sources, does point out conclusively to the 
fact that dykes have been the subject matter 
of bombing and it is also clear that even 
bombing of points quite close to the dykes 
has also caused serious damage to the 
dykes. This matter has been a subject 
matter of discussion, and this matter, along 
with the general question of bombing of 
North Vietnam territory, was vary much in 
the minds of the delegations in Guyana. 
The final resolution and declaration does 
contain references to the situation in Viet- 
nam and has also taken a positive and clear 
stand of opposition to the bombing and of 
finding solutions which are acceptable to the 
people of Vietnam. 

SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HALD- 
ER : I want to know fiom the Minister 
whether Government is prepared to move 
and pass a resolution condemning the bom- 
bing by U S. Air Foice of North Vietnam 
dykes and civilian population to rouse 
world opinion. 

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : No resolu- 
tion is required. We have expressed our 
view-point very categorically more than 
once. 

SHRI G. VISWANATHAN : In view 
of the fact that even leading American poli- 
ticians have attacked their own Government 
for bombing on the dyke system in North 
Vietnam, I want to know from the Minister 
what concrete steps have the Government 
of India taken to rouse public opinion, 
apart from issuing pious statements I also 
want to know whether they had taken up 
the question in the non-aligned Conference 
to have a separate resolution condemning 
the bombing of the dyke system in Noith 
Vietnam. 

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : With regard 
to the first question, the opinion is suffici- 
ently roused in our country and all over 
the world, and I do not know what more he 
wants us to do in this respect. 

About the second question, as I have 
said already, the question of Vietnam situa- 


tion and the b>mbingby the Americans of 
North Vietnam territory, including dykes, 
was very much before the Guyana Confere- 
nce, and if the hon. Member carefully 
studies the relevant resolution and declara- 
tion he will find the answer to what he is 
asking me. 

SHRI R. S. PANDEY : Heavy bom- 
bings by Americans is going on in North 
Vietnam, and Mr. kissinger is also going 
here and there. The Minister of External 
Affairs is competent enough to assess the 
American attitude. May I know what exa- 
ciJy is the motive of the Americans ? Do 
they want to destroy North Vietnam or do 
they want to finish the war or do they want 
to negotiate and come to some sort of 
solution ? 

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : I wish I 
could answer for the United States Govern- 
ment. But I cannot. 

SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : There 
has been the reported vis i 1 of Dr. Rissinger 
to South Vietnam to persuade that Govern- 
ment to come to some sort of an underst- 
anding with North Vietnam. May I know 
whether the role of India and also that of 
the non-aligned nations had had any impact 
on the United States to make them initiate 
this move ? I also want to know whe- 
ther it was known to our Government 
before Dr, Kissinger made his visit to South 
Vietnam. 

MR. SPEAKER : Why do you not 
put a separate question on this ? 

SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : This 
is my question : whether the reported visit 
of Dr. Kissinger . . . 

MR. SPEAKER : So many people 
come and so many people go. Please ask 
a relevant question .* whether any Ameri- 
cans tried to . . . (Interruptions) You are 
again going to repeat it ? 

SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : I 
am not repeating it. 

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : We knew 
that yesterday Dr. Kissinger flew in a plane 



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Oral Answers 12 


and he has reached Saigon. What he is 
going to do there, what are his plans — 1 
do not know anything at all. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Before I 
put a question, I really wanted to bring to 
your notice that when we put questions, 
1 have seen that an American diplomat is 
violating the rules and regulations and goes 
on taking notes there sitting in the gallery. 
They come here merrily and go on dicta- 
ting their own terms. 1 want that that should 
be snatched away. The security men 
should be sent immediately to snatch it 
away. 

MR. SPEAKER ; It happened once 
earlier also. Don’t make reference to the 
galleries. 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : A little 
while earlier, the hon. Minister said 
that in the beginning the American ad- 
ministration was tr\ mg to deny the fact 
of the bombing of the dykes, but later on, 
was forced to admit the truth. I would 
like to know from him . irrespective of 
whether the Americans deny or confirm it, 
have we on our ow'ii sought or received any 
direct information from our envoy in Hanoi 
who, being on the spot, is piobably in a 
position to give us a better and fullei in- 
formation and on the hasi«> of that in- 
formation, can he tell us as to wl at is the 
actual extent of the bombing i f the dykes 
and the damage caused to the civilian 
population and cultivation and so on, and 
on that basis, why has the Government of 
India not said anything ? Why a*e you to 
wait for the Americans to deny or confirm 
it ? 

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : It is a 
pertinent question. We did receive in- 
formation from our own represen tato e in 
Hanoi who, along with certain other dtplo- 
rrates, was taken by the North Vietnam 
authorities to see some of the dykes which 
have been damaged by bombing. Of course, 
he could not go to all the places and, there- 
fore, it was not possible for him to assess 
♦he entire damage to the dykes caused by 
bombing. But he did see with his own 
eyes and he sent a report to us that he 
did see the damage caused to some dykes by 
bombing. 


Setting up of Mineral Exploration 
Corporation 

+ 

*244. SHRI S A. MURUGANANT- 
HAM : 

SHRI ARVIND NETAM: 

Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 
be p’eased to state : 

(a) whether there is a proposal to set 
up a Mineral Exploration Corporation to 
accelerate the mineral exploration progra- 
mme in the countiy; 

(b) if so, the main features thereof; and 

(c) the time by which the Corporation 
is expected to be set up ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI 
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): (a) and (b), Govern- 
ment have taken a decision to set up a 
Mineral Exploration Corporation in the 
public sector with its headqurters at Nagpur. 
To start with, this Corporation will function 
with the personnel and equipment to be 
transferred from the Geological Survey of 
Indn. The Corporation will be charged with 
exploring in detad and pro\mg the resources 
in specific mineral prospects in the shortest 
possible time in order to facilitate their 
expeditious exploitation. 

(c) The Corporation is expected to be 
set up within 2-3 months. 

SHRI S. A. MURUGANANTHAM: 
May I know' fiom the hon Minister whether 
Rs. 100 crorcs is being spent for the import 
of non-ferrous metals ? 

MR. SPEAKER: The question is about 
setting up a Mineral Exploration Corporation 
to accelerate the mineral exploration progra- 
mme. You a^k it in the shape of question 
and don’t give infoimation yourself. 

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN : The 
import bill of metals would be about Rs. 
200 crores roughly. 

SHRI S.A. MURUGANANTHAM: May 
I ki.ow from the hon Minister whether the 



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Oral Answers 14 


Government propose to take urgent steps to 
see that th s drain of foreign exchange is 
stopped at the earliest ? 

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN: The Gove- 
rnment is doing its utmost to ensure that 
our dependence on imports of metal 
is reluced as quickly as possible. The 
House would be glad to know that as 
far as aluminium is concerned, we are on the 
way to attaining self-sufficiency. Sizeable 
reserves of copper have also been found. 
We are developing that. Nickel also has 
been struck in Orissa and in respect of lead 
and zinc, sizeable deposits are there. We 
are trying to develop that as fast as we can. 

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SHRI PARIPOORNANAND PAINULP 
Will the hon. Minister be pleased to state 
whether as a pie-requisite to mining operati- 
ons and mining explorations, detailed survey 
of the mineral deposits would be conducted, 
especially of th^ deposits in the Himalavan 
region by the Photo Interpretation Institute 9 

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN : That 
will be one of the main functions of the 
Mineral Exploration Coiporation. The 
hon. Member would be glad to know that 
already the GSI have prospected various 
minerals in the Himalayan region. 

SHRI INDRAJ1T GUPTA : rose. 

MR. SPEAKER : If you ask like this 
I have not been able to finish these ques- 
tions. 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : I tried to 
catch your eye, but I failed. 


MR. SPEAKER : I am going to divert 
my eye for the question. Anyway, you 
can ask, but Undly don’t make it a 
practice. 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Are there 
any complaints for all these long years 
that the mineral exploration work carried 
on so long by GSI was unsatisfactory or 
inidequate 9 If not. what are the specific 
reasons which have led the Government, 
in the face of opposition by many scientists 
and experts, to bifurcate mineral explo- 
ration work from GSI and to set up 
an absolutely independent corporation 
now. 

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND 
MINES (SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA- 
MANGALAM) : The decision of the Govern- 
ment was talcen^n the basis of the report 
that was submitted by a Sub-committee of 
the Committee on Science and Technology 
consitmg of leading scientists of this country. 
It is called COST. The main reason 
advanced by them, which was accepted by 
the Government, was that geological mapp- 
ing was proceeding rather slowly and that 
it would be better to separate the work of 
pure mapping on the one hand and the 
work exploration on the other hand. In 
many countries there is a division between 
the woik of mapping and :he work of 
exploration. It is really in pursuance of this 
princip’e, after considerable discussion, 
and after getting advice from leading 
scientists, that this decision was taken. 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : It is not 
clear whether the mapping will be done in 
the new corporation or whether it will 
continue to be done by the GSI. 

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMANGA- 
LAM : Survey work which really is the 
work of mapprng is being done and will 
continue to be done in the GSI. After 
mapping reveals the existence of mineral 
reserves, in any particular area, the work 
will then be transferred to MEC (Mineral 
Exploration Corporation) to decide on 
whether those reserves could be commer- 
cially exploitable or not. When a decision 
is arrived at that they are exploitable, 
that will go over to the exploiting Cor- 
porations. 



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Oral Answers 16 


Setting up of new Steel Plant In South 

+ 

*245. SHRI B. V. NAIK : 

SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA : 

Will the Minister of STEEL AND 
MINES be pleased to state : 

(a) the progress so far made in the 
setting up of the three new steel plants in 
the South; 

' (b) the time by which these three plants 
are expected to go into pioduction; and 

(c) the total area of land acquired by 
these plants at Visakhapatnam, Hospet 
and Salem respectively ? 

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND 
MINES (SHRI S. MOIiAN KUMARA 
MANGALAM) : (a) to (c). A Statement 
is laid on the Table of the House. 

Statement 

(a) to (c). The progiess made so far 
in respact of the new steel plants is given 
hereunder. The extent of land acquired/ 
being acquired is also indicated: 

Salem Steel Plant : 

2. Based on the Consultants’ techno - 
economic feasibility report of the project, 
an investment decision was taken in May 
1972, for setting up an alloy and special 
steel plant at Salem with the following 
product-mix : 


Sheets/strips Tonnes per annum 

Stainless steel 70,000 

Silicon steel 75,000 

High Carbon Steel 30,000 

Wash heats (Mild Steel) 20,000 

195,000 tonnes 


3, In the case of Salem Steel Project 
about, 1,355 acres of land required for 


the Plant has already been acquired. On the 
basis of the advice given by the Consul- 
tants, Hindustan Steelworks Construction 
Ltd , a Government of India undertaking 
have commended site levelling work. With 
the construction activities having started, a 
separate company for the management of 
the Salem Project is being incorporated 
shortly. 

4. The Project is expected to be 
commisstioned in 1977-78. 

Vijayanagar and Visakhapatnam Steel Plants 

5. The Techno-Economic feasibility 
Reports were received in early 1972. The 
eost estimate v?ned from Rs.747 crores to 
Rs. 819 crores for different alternatives. Besi- 
des, it emerges that the plant would make 
a considerable loss. A Study Group was, 
theiefore, constituted to examine the 
Feasibility Reports with a view to reduce 
capital and operating costs. The Group 
has finalised its work and is expected to 
submit its Rcpoi t shortly. 

6. By 31. 3. 1972 about 3,216 acres 
of land had been acquired for the Vijaya- 
nagar Plant. Preliminary estimates for 
site levelling are being prepared For the 
Visakhapatnam Plant land acquisition 
proceedings are in the progress. Initially 
about 5,500 acres of land is proposed to 
be acquired. 

7. With a view to reduce the lead 
time required for the manufacture of 
equipment as well as to maximise the 
indigenous content, a panel of Experts 
for Standardization of Steel Plant Equip- 
ment was constituted m January, 1972. 
The recommendations made by the Panel 
in their Report submitted in May, 1972 have 
been largely accepted. Steps have, been 
initiated to place orders for some of the 
major equipment on the Heavy Engineering 
Corporation and other public sector engi- 
neering units shortly. A Study Group to 
assess the manpower requirements during 
the construction ns well as the operation 
phase has been constituted. 

8. Arrangements have been made for 
testing the various raw materials at the 
National Metallurgical Laboratory, Jam- 



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SRAVANA 26, 1894 {SAKA) 


Ora! Answers J8 


st^edpur, Central Fuel Research Institute, 
Bhanbad and abroad. 

9. Topographical surveys in respect 
to all the sites have been completed. Rail- 
ways have also completed thei; prelimi- 
nary surveys for providing exchange yards 
and sidings. The schemes prepared by the 
respective State Governments for meeting 
the requirement of water, during the project 
costruction stage, as well as during the 
operation stage are under consideration. 
Initial load bearing tests on soil have been 
completed. 

10. According to a schedule of cons- 
truction indicated by the Consultants in 
the Feasibility Reports, the Plants would 
take about 8 years from now to be com- 
pleted. Measures, including those men- 
tioned above, are in hand to reduee this 
time. 

SHRI B V. NAIK : From the state- 
ment I find that the Salem steel plant is 
expected to go into production in 1977-78, 
while for the other two plants at Vijaynagar 
and Visakhapatnam, no specific date of 
commissioning has been given, even though 
broadly it has been mentioned that it would 
take about eight years. I hope that the 
distinction between the two is not deli- 
berate and that all of them will be commi- 
ssioned. 

It has also been stated that the steel 
plant at Vijaynagar or anywhere else will 
be making substantial amount of loss. In 
view of the fact that many of our public 
sector undertakings particularly in steel 
are working and functioning below their 
capacity, about 33 or 35 per cent in the 
case of Durgapur, will the Steel Ministry 
consider it fit to let the price of steel in 
the open market to float so that they will 
become self-sufficient ? 

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMANGA- 
LAM : Tt> answer first of all the point 
regarding the Salem steel plant coming into 
production earlier, I hope the hon, Member 
will appreciate that the steel plant at 
Salem is an alloy steel plant which is to 
produce about 195,000 tonnes of finished 
steel,, that is, alloy steel, whereas Vijay- 
nagar and Visakhapatnam plants are major 
integrated Steel plants. So, naturally the 


time for bringing them into commission will 
be different. I do not think that there is any 
discrimination involved except the dis- 
crimination between alloy steel on the one 
hand and ordinary steel on the other, which 
unfortunately exists in life. 

So far as the question of loss is con- 
cerned, the hon. Member has put forward 
a point which has some relevance, and I 
can assure him that we are examining the 
entire pricing system of steel products to 
try to arrive at a proper conclusion. 

SHRI B. V. NAIK : May we know 
whether there is any possibility of further 
‘preponing* the date of commissioning of 
the Vijaynagar and Visakhapatnam plants ? 

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMANGA- 
LAM : I arj not quite sure about the 
meaning of that English word ‘preponing*. 
but I presume that it means that he wants 
to bring it forward. So far as ‘preponing’ 
is concerned, every effort is always being 
made to 'prepone’. 

MR. SPEAKER : ‘Poning’ is the 

common thing between the two. 

SHRI S. A. SHAMIM : I hope that 
this is not unparliamentry. 

I hope you will find that out. 

MR. SPEAKER : It is just the ‘pon- 
ing’ wnich is common on both sides. 

SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA : May 
I know whether these steel plants will meet 
their raw material requirements locally and 
what their man-power requirements would 
be during the construction as well as the 
operatiop phases ? 

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMANGA- 
LAM : Thare are three plants involved 
and the extent to which these three diffe- 
rent plants will obtain their raw material 
locally will vary. ^ So far as the Salem 
steel plant is concerned, I think hon. 
Members are aware that our aim is to 
utilise the Kanjimalai iron ore. Since the 
steel plant is not going to be an ordinary 
integrated plant, the question of coke 
does not arise as also coking coal being 
transported there. 



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Oral Answers 20 


So far as the Vijaynaggr plants is con- 
cerned, iron ore will be locally available, 
but coking coal will have to be brought 
from Bihar. So far as the Visakhapatanam 
plant is conce.ned, iron ore would 
very likely be taken from Bailadilla, 
but the coking coal will again be taken 
from Bihar. This is the position so far as 
the raw materials are concerned. 

I did not follow exactly the latter 
part of the hon. Member’s question. 

SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA : What 
will be the man-power requirements during 
their construction as well as operation 
phases ? 

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMANGA- 
LAM : We have not arrived at any 

final conclusion regarding man-power re- 
quirements A study group in examining 
that in order to do so. 

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This is about transport of ore to 
Visakhapatnam and shipment to Japan. At 
present, what is the procedure for bringing 
iron ore from Bailldilla to Visakhapatnam ? 
Is it by our own rail or by some other means? 

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA MANGA 
LAM : At the present moment, we are 
still examining what will be the exact method 
of transport. Ordinarily we would expect that 
the entire ore would be transported by rail. 
But during the last decade, as hon. mem- 
bers must be aware, there has developed 
the process of transporting iron ore by 
slurry. We are examining all the three 
methods, namely, pelletising and transport- 
ing the pellets or sending them by slurry 
or sending them by rail. We have not 
come to a final decision. 

SHRI B. S. MURTHY : What are the 
difficulties m acquiring land in Visakha- 
patn:.m ? Also what are the other teething 
troubles in the case of the Visakhapatnam 
factory ? 

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA- 


MANGALAM : I do not think Government 
have ever stated that we have had any 
difficulties regarding acquiring land in 
Visakhapatnam. The other difficulties are 
the normal ones that one faces in relation 
to the establishment of any public sector 
undertaking of a major character — nothing 
special. 

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SHRI PILOO MODY : It is a very good 
question. 

MR. SPEAKER : On his recommenda- 
tion, I am allowing it for answer. 

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA- 
MANGALAM : The decision to put up a 
steel plant in Visakhapatnam was taken 
some years ago. I think all considerations 
were taken into account in arriving at that 
decision. 

Advance payment for goods not 
supplied 

*248. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- 
SHAR : Will the Minister of SUPPLY be 
pleased to state : 



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SRAVANA 26, 1894 (SAKA) 


Oral Answers 22 


(a) whether a firm fraudulently obtained 
advance payments amounting to Rs. 2 84 
lakhs for supplies which were not effected 
by it, as observed by the public Accounts 
Committee in its 105th Report (Fourth Lok 
Sabha); 

(b) if so, whether an investigation into 
the matter has been completed; and 

(c) whether in view of this observation, 
Government is contemplating to consider 
the question of building safeguards into the 
general conditions governing contracts of 
the D. G. S. & D. ? 

THE MINISTER OF SUPPLY (SHRI 
D. R. CHAV AN) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) Yes, Sir. 

(c) In the light of the observations 
made by the Public Accounts Committee, 
certain remedial measures have been taken 
by the Government from time to time to 
safeguard Government’s interests. A state- 
ment listing out these measures is laid on 
the Table of the'House. 

St ite merit 

1. Sub* clause 9 of Clause 14 of the 
condition of contract (DOS & D-68- 
Revised) has been amended specifying that 
the railway receipt/consignec’s note or bill 
of lading if any, should be drawn in the 
name of the cansignee or the interim consi- 
gnee, as the case may be, and should be 
sent to him. 

2. Instructions have been issued to the 
Purchase Officers that in future Acceptance 
cf Tenders, the consignees should be reques- 
ted to send an intimation to the Purchase 
Organisation immediately on receipt of 
stores giving particulars of the Acceptance 
of Tender No. and date, date of despatch 
of stores by the contractor with railway 
receipt number and da«e and date of actual 
receipt by the consignee along with the 
quantity received. 

3. In case of progress payments, in 
addition to test checks of railway receipts 
and transport documents, the progress 


held staff will also test check the actual 
receipt of stores by the consignee. This will 
be done by checking consignee's receipts, 
sending letter to consigneee to certify the 
receipt and in important cases even by 
visits to the consignee’s premises. 

4. Consignees have been asked to 
promptly report to the Pay & Accounts 
Officer concerned, with a copy to the Direc- 
torate General of Supplies & Disposals, any 
ca-es of shortages/discrepancies found in 
the stores received by them. In this conne- 
ciion, administrative instructions have been 
issued for preparation of bills by the supply- 
ing fims in quadruplicate to enable the Pay 
& Accounts Officer to uso the triplicate 
copy of the bill as a debit intimation memo 
to the consignee concerned. This will help 
the consignee to report to the concerned 
authoi ities immediately m case stores have 
not been received for which payments have 
been drawn by the firm. 

5. Instructions have been issued that 
all serious complaints received from consi- 
gnee’s and other malpractices, frauds etc. 
reported by them should immediately be 
brought to the notice of the senior officers 
and also periodically reviewed by them so 
as to ensure prompt and pioper action. 

6. It has been decided that the Pay & 
Accounts Officer would, immediately after 
making payment of advance bills, send a 
registered letter to the consignee asking 
him to confirm receipt in full or the extent 
of *hort supply of stores as ind cated in 
the railway receipt, within 45 days of 
receipt of the letter. 

7. It has been decided that the contrac- 
tor should incorporate a certificate on the 
bill foim itself to the effect that the railway 
receipt No. and dare quoted in the bill ' is 
genuine and correct. 

PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- 
SHAR : Arising out of answer to (b>, may 
1 know the contents of the report of 
investigation ? 

SHRI D, R. CHAVAN : When the fraud 
was detected, Director, Supply, Bombay, 
reported it to the CBI, and SPE, Bombay 



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Oral Answers 24 


Branch. Investigation has $>pen completed. 
There are four cases which lire pending in 
the Additional Chief Presidency Magis- 
trate’s Court. Ore case has been decided. 
A partner of the firm committed the fraud. 
He has been convicted and sentenced to pay 
a fine and also undergo imprisonment. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Thi is the 
first time that he is replying to a question as 
the Minister of Supply ? 

MR. SPEAKER : Then he must be 
congratulated. 

PROF. NARAIN CHAND : 
PARASHAR : What is the name of the 
firm ? 

SHRI D R CHAV AN : The name of the 
firm is Khushalbhai patfl & Sons., 
and the partner of the firm, I. R. Patel, 
has been convicted. ( Interruption ) 

stfta fire : *ztt ifaT ?0 
*0 *r 0 m 00 ^ ? aftr *tt *Tf wfaw 
?0% fawre fa0r >nrr | ? sfa gr, 
00*1 001 ffsnjz 501 ? 

SHRI D. R. CHAV AN : The name of 
the firm has been given. 

Mr. SPEAKER : He has mentioned it. 

*1 g*0 *80 *0010 : RffcjJ 

t *T00T 0Tg0T $ *IT Jig 0T0 0?T | fa 

far* 3r*07> f*0i % 

00*1 0001 J0 **ft9r0 001 f?1T 0T ? 

jpp sfr srfa *t nf | 30^ 0g 0101 00T 

I fa 3T*0T *00 0WT f. ? nfc gt, efi 
er?T faeft 3T*0Tf % fawr* %0 *THT fa^T 
00 t xt* fa^ 0*0^ % fawn; arri^ 
*Tf CTTTrgt ^ | ? 

SHRI D.R. CHAV AN : The question is, 
the fraud has been committed by the firm. 
Fraud has not been committed by the office; 
it has not come to the notice of the Govern- 
ment, what is alleged by the hon. Membre 


is absolutely incorrect. 

«rT §*0 *0010 : 0*00? 

& f ® *0^00 tot fan <rr arh: srefa 
wrw^ Jr sir *?% 0g& fa*r 1 1 
^0T | fa 0 I aifa *t 0 ! | 30Jr *it 
arqrer! % fcrsro f 0 | ? Jifa 

fajp^T | rfr 30% fawn; ift 50 *T00r|T 
*t 0f I 00T ? 

MR. SPEAKER : It nas been categ- 
orically stated, (Interuption) 

ftft *r gwT fatrr 1 1 

SHRI G. VISWANATHAN : This is a 
case where a firm has received fraudulent 
payment without supplying any material. 
Without the official connivance, it is 
impossible to got payment without supply- 
ing the material. I want to know from the 
Minister, when he says that it is only a 
fraudulence on the pait of the firm, what 
action has been taken against the officials 
who have paid the amount. ( Interrupt on ) 

MR. SPEAKER : Order, order. 

SHRI D R. CHAVAN : All the details 
concerning this case have been given in the 
105th report of the Public Accounts commi- 
ttee, 1969. ( Interruption ) 

MR. SPEAKER : He has put a cate- 
gorical question; whether any action has 
been taken against those officers who have 
made the payment. 

SHRI D. R. CHAVAN : No action has 
been taken against the officials. ( Interruption ) 

*ft g**T *0010 : 0 3 T* 0 Tf *t 
g^rfTr 0Tg?r $ Jfjfifa 3 r**rcf # 
015 0 T 5 0RT f 0 garr ^ 1 (010010) 
0T0 fait? tjt'JT rfr 001 00JTT fa 0T?00 
Jr 0*0T 0t 0Tfaw I I (800010)... 

MR. SPEAKER : Order, order, He has 
already categorically stated that no action 
has been taken. Now, Shri H. M. Patel. 
( Interruption ) 



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Oral Answers 26 


Shouting and screaming is not substitute 
for the strength and logic of the question. 
(Interruption) anq VTTfaT # 5JTTST 

% ffTO $3 t I vfTT ^ W 

TOfcft ^ 5TT 3TT?ft I 

SHR1 H. M. PATEL : Will the Minis- 
ter be pleased to indicate if the 
department has carried out any enquiry into 
this, and whether he has found that there 
was no scope or there was scope for taking 
steps against the officers concerned ? 

SHRI D. R. CHAV AN : The investi- 
gation has been done. There was no scope 
for the officers to commit any fraud; no 
connivance. 1 can explain it: how the 
fraud was committed and all that. I can 
explain what was the modus operandi that 
was employed. The matter ^vas investigated 
and the officers here not found to be 
involved, ( Interruption ) 

MR SPEAKER : 1 th nk he is very 
honestly tellirg you. He is not hiding or 
concealing anything . ( Interruptions ). 

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA : 
What is the modality of payment ? How is 
the officer not involved ? 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Who made 
the payment ? Who sanctioned it ? 

MR. SPEAKER : He is asking about the 
modality of payment. 

SHRI D. R. CHAVAN : This is adva- 
nce payment made according to the practice 
prevalent in the DGSD on the basis of the 
railway receipt. The modus operandi in this 
case was as follows. The firm were not the 
manufacturers themselves but they were the 
agents of certain textile mills. They entered 
into agreement for supplying various stocks. 
In this case the mill manufactured the cloth 
and despatched the cloth after inspection 
to the destination and passed on the railway 
receipt to the bankers with instiuc- 
tions that if the firm makes payment to the 
bank the receipt should be given. The firm 
did not' make payment to the bank but 
quoted fictitious receipt to the Pay and 
Accounts and got the money, advance 
payment which was 90 per cent of the total 
contract. . . ( Interruptions ) 


MR. SPEAKER I have called the 
next question. 

Implementation of ratio of 
Clerks in E.P.F.O. 

*250. SHRI R. P. YADAV : Will the 
Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILI- 
TATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether ratio of U.D.Cs and L. 
D.Cs. has been fixed by the Government 
from 1:2 to 2:1 Employees Provident Fund 
Organ aition and a Gazette Notification in 
this regard has also been published; if so 
the specific features thereof and the policy 
of the Government; and 

(b) the steps being taken to expedite 
the implementation of the same ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF LABOUR AND REHA- 
BILITATION (SHRI BALGOVIND 
VERMA) : (a) The Government have 
accepted a recommendation of the Central 
Board of Trustees based on the report of a 
Committee of Trustees that the ratio of U. 
D.Cs and L D.Cs may be liberali- 
sed from 1:2 to 2 : 1 subject to the 
condition that there would be no 
overall increase in the total number 
of posts as a result of the revision of the 
ratio and the revised ratio should be given 
effect to from the date of regular filling up 
of the posts. No gazette notification has 
been issued prescribing the ratio of the 
posts of U.D.Cs and L.D.Cs. 

(bi The Provident Fund authorities have 
reported that the Scheme has already 
been implemented. 

SHRI R. P. YADAV: May I know whe- 
ther a decision has been taken in the matter 
to reverse the ratio and if so why the same 
is not being implemented ? What is the 
number of LDCs and UDCs ? After this 
ratio is reversed, how many LDCs were 
promoted as UDCs ? 

SHRI BALGOVIND VERMA: I do not 
follow the point that the ratio had been 
reversed. It has already been stated that the 
ratio had been liberalised from 1 : 2 to 2 : I. 
Accordingly some posts have been filled; 
189 posts have been filled and 189 LDCs 



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were promoted as UDCs, It has been deci- 
ded to promote 1,000 LDCt as UDCs in the 
long run. 

SHRI R. P. YADAV: I want to know 
whether the Central Provident Fund Comm- 
issioner is not implementing the scheme 
deliberately due to his prejudices and if so 
what action is being contemplated against 
him ? Is the Minister aware that the emplo- 
yees are on strike ? 

SHRI BALGOVIND VERM A r The con- 
tention of the hon. member is not correct 
that the Piovident Fund Cormissioner is 
not filling up the posts as per the decision. 
The fact is, the posts are filled fifty-fifty; 
i e 50 per cent will be by promotion based 
on seniority and 50 per cent by those who 
come out successful in the examination. On 
a tacit understanding, the two methods of 
filling up the posts will goon side by side. 
(Interruptions). 

SHRI R P. YADAV: Has it come to 
the notice of Government that they are on 
strike ? 

SHRI BALGOVIND VERMA: It has 
not come to our not'ce. 

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: This was one 
of the demands of the employees of this 
organisation which has been conceded in 
part, not fully. Ha\e tfey submitted a char- 
ter of demands and there is a countrywide 
agitation going on this ? Have they made a 
request to the minister to intervene m the 
matter ? If so, what is his reaction ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHAD1- 
LKAR) : We have received charters of 
demands from various quarters and one of 
them is from thc^e employees We have 
partially met their demands and partially it 
is under the consideration of the Board of 
Trustees. ( Interruptions ). 

Compensation tj Victims of Dhun 
Mine disaster in Bihar in 1965 

•251. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE* Will 
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI- 
LITATION be pleased to state: 

(a) whether family members of 268 work- 
ers who died in Dhun Mine Disaster, Bihar 


in 1965 have not yet been paid compensa- 
tion; and 

(b) if so, the reasons why no action was 
taken to get compensation for the family 
members either by the State Government 
or by the Union Labour Ministry ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADI- 
LKAR): (a) Yes. 

(b) The enforcement of the Workmen’s 
Compensation Act, 1923, rests with the State 
Government. No action was possible on the 
part of the State Government as the comp- 
ensation proceedings pending before the 
Labour Court. Patna had been stayed by 
the Patna High Court till the disposal of the 
civil revision cases preferred before it by 
the management These cases have since 
been disposed of by the High Court and the 
compensation proceedings have been resumed 
in the Labour Court at Patna. The date for 
the next hearing is 28th August, 1972. 

SHRI S M. BANERJEE* In 1965 in 
Bihar, 268 workers died in the Dhun Mines 
owned by the Raja of Ramgarh. Wc aie 
putting this question in 1972 and we arc 
told that no compensation has been pa.d 
to their families May I know whether the 
Government of India are in contact with the 
State Government and whether they wi'I 
see that at least the members of their fami- 
lies, if they aie alive, should be paid this 
compensation ? 

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: I must 
admit that it is a sad commentary on the 
functioning of the judiciary when offences 
of this nature are brought to the courts, 
the Labour Court, ihe Patna High court 
and all these courts, I do not know under 
what influence, because so many people 
died in 1965 and yet no compensation has 
been paid. ( Interruptions ). 1 am stating the 
facts.. (Interruptions). 

SHRI DINESH SINGH : How can you 
cast aspersion on the High Court 7 It is very 
unfair. 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: It has taken 
more than seven yeaTs and still they have 
not been paid compensation. You should 
be ashamed of such courts. 



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Oral Answers 30 


SIJRI PILOO MODY: Government 
could have paid compensation suo motu t 
Why did they not do it ? 

MR SPEAKER: It would be much bett- 
er if Shri Khadilkar leaves aside all comm- 
ents and is concise in his answers. He can 
easily say that it is pending for a long time. 

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: Under the 
Workmen's Compensation Act, the implem- 
entation rests with the States. Certain adva- 
nces were made from the Prime Minister’s 
Relief Fund and other funds. They were 
very meagre because it was such a big 
disaster. 

MR. SPEAKER 1 May I request him to 
give brief concise replies instead o r long 
replies because longer replies lead to comp- 
lication ? 

SHRI A. K. SEN : It could not have 
gone to the court unless the Government 
resisted the claim for compensation. 

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR; Now a 
stage has been reached where perhaps the 
case will be finaliscJ soon. 

MR. SPEAKER. I am sorry, the question 
hour is now ovei . 

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Sir, I thou- 
ght you would make an observation about 
it. It is a scandalous thing. Eleven years 
have passed. 

MR SPEAKER: The Minister has alre- 
ady made it. 

SHRI A. P. SHARMA: The Minister 
has said that the case has reached a stage 
where it would be finalised. What is the 
stage now ? 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : This is 
another glaring instance which shows the 
class character of the government. 

SHRI S.M. BANERJEE : In v ew of the 
delay in arriving at a decision by the High 
Court and in view also of the fact that no 
compensation has been paid so far, would 
the government make tome cx gratia 
payment ? 


SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: This is a 
suggestion. 

Short Notice Question 

Death of Shri Charu Mazumdar in 
Police Custody in West Bengal 

S. N. Q. 2. SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : 
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 
pleaed to state : 

(a) whether Government’s attention 
has been drawn to the countr -wide appre- 
hension over the recent death in police 
custody in West Bengal of Shri Charu Mazu- 
mdar, chairman of the Communist Party 
of India (Marxist-Lemnist); 

(b) whether medical and other relevant 
reports regarding the death of this all-India 
political personality have been aiequately 
examined: and 

(c) whether Government are in a posi- 
tion to allay all apprehensions in this 
regard ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 
K. C. PANT) : (a) and (c). According to 
the information furnished by the State 
Government so far. Shri Chaiu Mazumdar 
was arrested by the Calcutta police in the 
early hours of 16th July, at Calcutta. On 
being taken to the Calcutta police head- 
quarters he was examined, among others, 
by an eminent heart specialist. An E.C G. 
was arranged and all possible medical care 
was made availab’e On being remanded 
to police custody, he continued to be under 
constant medical attention and treatment 
as advised by the heart specialist. Family 
members of Shri Mazumdar were also allo- 
wed to see him when he was in police 
custody. Shri Mazumdar’s condition, how- 
ever, suddenly deteriorated towards the 
afternoon of 27th July. He was again 
examined by the heart specialist and on 
his advice was admitted at 19.30 hours on 
27th July, to the S. S. K. M. Hospital. 
Despite all me iical assistance. Shri Mazu- 
mdar expired at about 4.50 hours on 28th 
July. A four-man panel of physicians* 
including the heart specialist under whose 



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treatment Shri Mazumdaf had remained 
has stated that the death of Shri Mazumdar 
was due to eschaemic heart disease with 
congestive cardiac failure. The death certi- 
ficate of Shri Mazumdar was duly signed 
by the four physicians in the panel. Since 
the death occured in police custody, post - 
mortem examination of the dead body was 
made. The viscera has been sent to the 
Forensic Science Laboratory for chemical 
examination. The result is awaited. 
A magisterial inquest is also in progress. 

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : The 
question relates to the death of a leader of 
a political party and all that we get m 
answer is that a statement is laid on the 
Table. The members would like to hear 
the answer. He is the leader of a respecta- 
ble party. 

MR. SPEAKER : He may ask his 
supplementary. 

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Sir, you 
should please bear with me for a moment. 
Before I ask my supplementary, 1 want to 
make a submission. This is a question 
about the death of the leader of a political 
party of this country and it should be 
answered in a fashion that the hon. Members 
would know. Now, hon. Members do not 
get an opportunity of reading the statement. 

MR SPEAKER : In the case of longer 
replies they are always laid on the Table. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Some- 
times they are read out also. 

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Sir, I 
am a bit intrigued by your concern for time 
being wasted or not wasted. 

In view of the fact that the average 
citizen would be intrigued by the phenome- 
non that the heart of Shn Charu Mazumdar 
which could bear the rigours and tensions 
of underground life and hounding by the 
police of the entire country for more than 
three years was unable to stand the care and 
comforts provided by the Government for 
even a fortnight and also, in view of the 
fact that his widow has made a statement 
to the effect that adequate medical treatment 
had not been given to him, that police 
interrogations had continued for very long 


stretches of time to the detriment of his 
heart condition and similar accusations 
have been made in journals published in 
this, country, may I know if it is right for 
the Government to leave this matter to a 
Magisterial inquest, that is to say, an 
executive non-entity investigating the pro- 
ceedings and why does not Government 
agree to some kind of a real investigation 
by a proper person or a High Court Judge 
or something of that sort so that all the 
misapprehensions in the minds of the people 
could be allayed ? 

SHRI K. C. PANT : May I, for the 
benefit of those Members, wh> may not 
have read the Statement give a few sentences 
from the statement ? This is the infor- 
mation given to us by the West Bengal 
Government : 

“On being taken to the Calcutta 
police headquarters, he was examined 
among others by an eminent heait spe- 
cialist. An ECG was arranged and ail 
possible medical care was made availa- 
ble. On being remanded to police 
custody, he continued to be under 
constant medical attention and treatment 
as advised by the heart specialist. Family 
members of Shri Mazumdar were also 
allowed to see him when he was m 
police custody Shri Mazumdar's condi- 
tion, however, suddenly .deteriorated 
towards the afternoon of 27th July....’* 

I might say that when he was captured, 
along vith him oxygen cylinders were also 
found and, I understand, he was a chronic 
patient of cardiac asthema. From the 
photographs, you must have seen that he 
was considerably emaciated. 

Further, I read from the statement : 

“He was again examined by the 
heart specialist and on his advice was 
admitted at 19.30 hours on 27th July to 
the S.S.K.M. Hospital....” 

— there he expired — 

“A four-man panel of physicians, 
including the heart specialist under 
whose treatment Shri Mazunfidar had 
remained, has stated that the death of 
Shri Mazumdar was due to eschaemic 



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Oral Answers 34 


1 heart disease with congestive cardiac 
' failure. The death certificate of Shri 
Mazumdar vas duly signed by the four 
physicians in the panel. Since the death 
occurred in police custody, post-mortem 
exam- nation of the dead body was 
made...” 

As Shri Mukerjee said, a magisterial 
inquiry is also in progress. 

So, I hope, my hon. friend will con- 
cede that adequate medical arrangements 
were made and that all along a heart Spe- 
cialist was also looking after him and his 
advice was being followed. 

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : What- 
ever one might think of the Minister’s 
statement, since very large number of deaths 
inside jail, whether by point blank shooting 
down or otherwise, in recent years, have 
taken place, can the Government assure 
that in every such case of death, including 
that of Shri Charu Mazumdar, post-mortem 
reports properly made would be made avail- 
able and that a full medical report regarding 
Shri Charu Mazumdar’s death in particular 
would be made public in view of the magis- 
tral inquest at least which has been 
announced ? 

SHRI K. C. PANT ; The death report, 
a* I have already said, has been signed by 
four physicians. The inquest is on. The 
findings of the inquest will be public. They 
will be going into the report of the forensic 
laboratory and the Post-mortem examina- 
tion etc. I do not know procedurally 
what exactly is made public by the magi- 
strate or what is not made public. But 
all the procedures laid down will be follo- 
wed. I for one do not find any rtason at 
all in this to occasion any doubt about the 
probity of any of the persons involved, Mr. 
Mukerjee said, some one of probity should 
look into it. 1 have no reason to question 
the probity of either the physician or the 
magistrate in this case. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : The hon. 
Minister has just now said that from the 
time of arrest, all along a heart specialist 
had been attending on late Charu Mazum- 
dar. If I remember aright, the Commission- 
er of Police, Calcutta, had said very 
categorically that Mr. Charu Mazumdar 


was in good health at that moment. How 
does it sound that a heart speciatist was 
attending on a man who had been maintai- 
ning good health as certified by the Head of 
the Calcutta Police, namely, the Commissi* 
oner of police ? uill the hon. Minister 
kindly cUrify this point ? 

SHRI K. C. PANT : I do not know 
about the statement of the Commissioner 
of Police. But I do know that the inform- 
ation given to us by the State Government 
is that Shri Charu Mazumdar was arrested 
by the Calcutta police in the early hours of 
16th July at Calcutta. On being taken to 
the Calcutta Police headquarters, he was 
examined among others by an eminent 
heart specialist. This is the information with 
me on which I have made the statement 
1 have myself stud on the basis of the in- 
formation with me that he was a chronic, 
cardiac-asthma ^patient. His heart might 
have been all right when he was arrested, 
obviously was good enough at that stage, 
but then there was a sudden deterioration 
on a certain date. All those fact I have 
given; I can not give any moie. 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : The 
Minister is mentioning about the facts at 
his disposal. We are interested in know- 
ing the correct facts and not cooked-up 
facts that are often brought before the 
House. Will he please collect fuller details 
on this and hv them on the Table of the 
House, if there is no skeleton in the cup- 
board ? 

SHRI TRIDIB CHAUDHURI : The 
M nister has said that Mr. Charu Mazumdar 
was a cardiac-asthma parent. When he 
was anested, pathadrme and oxygen cylind- 
ers were found with him. He was, imme- 
diately after the arrest, examined by a 
heart specialist. It is also on record that 
he was subjected to constant interrogation 
by one Minister in charge of Calcutta Police 
and also subsequently . . . 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU Minister 
of State. 

SHRI TRIDIB CHAUDHURI : Mini- 
ster of State is also a Ministir. ( Interrup- 
tion ) i It is not a laughing matter. It is a 
very serious matter and this thing is being 
widely commented by the Press, by the 



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Oral Answers 36 


public and not by the people who were all 
admirers of Mr. Charu Mazumdar. But 
there is something called justice, Mr. 
Charu Mazumdar was not found to be 
convicted of any crime as y$t. Anyway it 
is on record that he was subjected to in- 
terrogation, and it has been alleged that he 
was subjected to 17. hours of continuous 
interrogation. Before this interrogation 
took p’nce this grilling third degree method 
on a cardiac-asthma patient was the advice 
of a caidiac specialist and other doctors 
who attended on him obtained before Mr. 
Charu Mazumdar was subjected to this soit 
of inhuman interrogation ? 

SHRI K. C. PANT : I shall again repeat 
because my hon. friend put some words in 
my mouth. According to him, I said, 
‘Atonce a heart specialist examined . . 

I did not say ‘once’. I can only say what 
has been given here : ‘On being taken to 
the Calcutta Police Head-quarters he was 
examined among others by an eminent 
heart specialist.' . . . 

SHRI PILOO MODY : ‘On being 
taken . . 

SHRI K. C. PANT : But the inform- 
ation that I heard said that right from 
the time he was arrested, he was given 
proper medical attention. So, I cannot 
exactly pinpoint when the heart specialist 
examined him. 

Secondly, the question of twelve hours 
continuous interrogation has been raised by 
my friend. It has been stated here by the 
West Bengal Government that because of 
his poor health, Shn Charu Mazumdar’s 
interrogation was carried out only in 
brief spells. So. this does not bear out 
what he says. 

SHRI PILOO MODY Three spells of 
twelve hours. 

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA : 
There are three veiy material points which 
arise in this context and need clarification 
from the hon. Minister. 

Now, what are exactly the reasons for 
a Minister of State interviewing Charu 
Mazumdar in the Police custody ? Is it a 
practice for a Minister to interview a person 
in the Police custody ? 


Secondly, what were the findings of 
this eminent heart specialist after his exami- 
nation ? 

Thirdly, a point arises out of what the 
hon. Minister has said namely that an 
inquest is under way. What are the precise 
points for the inquest ? 

SHRI K. C. PANT : As to why the 
Minister of State interviewed. Mr. Charu 
MaZumdar, I cannot answer... 

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA 
Why ? Is it the practice ? 

SHRI K C. PANT : Obviously I 
cannot It is for the State Government. He 
is not our Minister. Shri Manoharan will 
be veiy angry if I choose to answer for one 
of the Tamil Nadu Ministers here ( Interrup- 
tions ) 

SHRI K. MANOHARAN : Your 
Central Ministers can go to Tamil Nadu 
and meddle with the whole matter ? 

SHRI K. C. PANT : I am happy about 
it. 

SHRI TR1DIB CHAUDHURI : On a 
point of order. It has become the practice 
of thf Treasury Benches whenever a question 
pertaining to States or law and order comes 
up, to take shelter behind the DMK.. That 
is very unfair. You have admitted the 
question and this question is being answe- 
red. He is answering the quession. So, why 
should he give this sort of answers ? 

SHRI K. C. PANT : Why not ? I do 
not understand the objection ..(Interruptions) 

SHRI PILOO MODY : If the minister 
sits down, 1 can explain the objection to 
him. 

SHRI ft. C PANT : I do not see what 
fairness or unfairness there is in this. Wc 
do hear protests here if one of our Minis- 
ters chooses to answer for the State Govern- 
ment. There is the emphasis on State 
autonomy So, if I raise this question, how 
is it unfair ? .. ( Interruptions ) 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : On a 
point of order, Sir. He has accepted this 



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Oral Answers 38 


question. Now he wants to take shelter 
under DMK. Wonderful, If it is a State 
matter, how was this question allowed to be 
admitted ? I want to ask this question of 
you. Mr. Speaker. If it is a matter which 
involve: the State Government, how is it 
that this question was admitted here ? I 
want to know about that. 

SHRI C. T. DHANDAPANI : The 
DMK Government directed an inquiry 
whenever such a thing happened in Tamil 
Nadu. Will your Government follow the 
same ? 

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Kindly 
give your observations on what I said. 

MR. SPEAKER : If you think it is a 
wrong thing, then it will not be done in 
future. 

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Are you 
taking a cue from an odd Member ? 

MR. SPEAKER ■ No please. 

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : This kind 
of observation that falls from your lips 
that is recorded for posterity. 

MR. SPEAKER : We have accepted it. 

SHRI K. MANOHARAN : Sir, I do 
not want to put any question to Mr. Pant 
because I want to be magnanimous. 

SHRI K. C. PANT : I thank Shri 
Manoharan for his magnanimity. So far as 
the findings of the heart specialist arc 
concerned, I do not have the exact findings 
here; certainly we can find out what the heart 
specialist had said But I know that he was 
called on the 27th. He advised that Shri 
Majumdar should be hospitalised and strai- 
ghtway he came towards the evening and 
Shri Majumdar was hospitalised in the 
evening. This fact 1 do have with me. As 
for the inquest the Magistrate did see the 
dead body in the morning and he also exa- 
mined some witnesses. He still wanted 
to examine some more witnesses and only 
after that examination we will be in a posi- 
tion to know fully. 

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA : 
What are the precise points for inquest ? 

SHRI K. C. PANT : 1 don’t know the 
precise points, but he was going into the 


circumstances and facts surrounding the 
death to give his findings. 

SHRI G. VISWANATHAN : The death 
occurred on the 27th, July. wG presume 
that on the sarqe day the viscera was sent 
for chemical examination we do not have 
the examination results. This is the callous 
way in wh ch he was treated even after his 
death. In view of the mounting doubts 
expressed regarding the medical treatment 
meted out to him and regarding his death, 

I want to know whether Government is in a 
position to accept a judicial inquiry into 
the whole matter. 

SHRI K. C. PANT : He died on the 
28th at 4-50 P M and not on 27th. I wish 
to correct him there. So far as the report 
of the Forensic Science Laboratory is conce- 
rned, I myself was sui prised that the report 
had not come \ asked my office to ring up 
West Bengal Government and they got in 
touch with the West. Bengal Govt and they 
told them that there were certain tests which 
take long time. Only this morning we 
had got in touch with them. I agree with my 
friend; it looks as if they have taken a long 
time. Snfar as the next question is concerned, 
about the judicial inquiry, my answer is, no. 

SHRI A. K. M. ISHAQUE : Charu 
Ma7Aimdar very successfully eluded arrest 
for three years and it was known that he 
was to tour the country for organisational 
work of his party. It was also 
known and it was common news that m 
Calcutta this Naxalite movement was losing 
its ferocity and its depth. How is it that 
just before death Charu Mazumdar arrived 
there in Calcutta and got himself arrested 9 
Was it done under advice from any foreign 
country, or was it a planned way of being 
arrested, just before diath, for political 
purpose 7 

SHRI S. A SHAMIM ■ There must be 
a judicial inquiry The State Government 
is a parly to the i<sue. You are basing your 
opinion on the statements and facts given 
by the State Government. The facts or the 
statements are those that have been supp- 
lied by the accused, which is, the State 
Government in this case. Will the Minister 
agree to an lrquiry, either by Members of 
Parliament or a Judicial Inquiry or even a 
Central Agency Inquiry, ft r that matter, of 



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AUGUST 17, 1972 


Oral Answers AO 


the CBI, or any other agency* because the 
State Government is the accused party ? 

SHRI ft. C. PANT . I am surprised at 
the statement mide by the hon. Member 
tha t the State Government is the accused 
party. This is completely wrong. 

SHRI S. A. SHAMIM : It is a cons- 
piracy hatched by the State Government. 
The West Bengal Government has got him 
killed. The Minister who visited him ... 

SHRI PILOO MODY : They played 
Nagarwala on him. Who else murdered 
him ? 

SHRI S.A. SHAMIM It is a case of 
a mysterious death. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA: We differ 
from the political \iews of Shri Charu 
Mazumdar but as he was honest to his own 
conviction, his death has created a scare in 
the country. It appears to us that the hon. 
Minister is not posted with all the informa- 
tion from the Government of West Bengal. 
I want to know from Government one 
thing. If the hon. Minister is posted with 
the facts, he can reply here and now; other- 
wise, he may supply the information as 
early as possible after finding out the facts. 
I want to know whether Shri Charu Mazum- 
dar was in police custody for eleven days 
before his death. During these 11 days, may 
I know whether he was at the police head- 
quarters at Lai Bazar or he was taken to 
jail custody ? Further, during those 11 days, 
for how many hours was he subjected to 
interrogation ? Which were the agencies 
that interrogated him ? May I know whether 
before interrogation, medical advice was 
taken on the question whether Shri Charu 
Majumdar’s health wo Jd permit him to be 
able to bear the strain of interrogation ? 
Lastly, may I know whether his wife and 
daughter made any complaint about his 
death to the police. 

SHRI K C. PANT : I have already 
ir.d cnted that he was taken to Calcutta 
pol'ce headquarters. As regards the question 
how many hours he spent there and how 
many hours he spent in the police lock-up, 
I do not know how material it is to what 
we are discussing now. I do not know the 
purpose of the question in regard to the 


time spent in either place. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : The hon. 
Minister has said that he does not know the 
purpose of the question .. 

SHRI K. C. PANT : An attempt is 
being made to raise suspicion over a matter 
on which factually there is no ground for 
suspicion. 

SHRI S. A. SHAMIM : Suspicion is 
already there. 

SHRI K. C. PANT : Some people are 
congenitally suspicious. 

SHRI S. A. SHAMIM : Because the 
entire Government’s functioning ma.ves us 
suspicious. Their conduct makes us sus- 
picious. 

SHRI K. C. PANT : The material 
point is whether he had adequate medical 
aid, and whether he was being looked after 
by doctors. I have been told that besides 
periodical examinations by heart specialists, 
he was also being examined by the police 
doctor. Somebody had asked for the name 
of the heart specialist who attended on him. 
Dr, Chandtkar is his name, and as regards 
the hospital, I havea Iready mentioned that 
it is the SSKM hospital. Apart from that, 
Shri Charu Mazumdar was also being exami- 
ned by the police doctor. Therefore, that is 
the material point. Therefore, there is no 
question of his not having been under 
medical care. He was a heart patient. That 
is the information. He was a chronic heart 
patient. Therefore, the police doctors did 
take the precaution of examining him 
frequently. So, why should there be objec- 
tion to that ? 

So far as his wife and daughter are 
concerred, 1 did indicate in my reply that 
his w;fe and daughter met him. As far as 
my knowledge goes, they have not made 
any complaint, that is, the West Bengal 
Government have not communicated any 
complaint by them to me. 

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : May I make 
a submission to you ? I had asked a question 
whether the hon. Minister had any informa- 
tion on the point regarding the number of 
hours for which he was subjected to interro- 



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Written Answers 42 


gation, and whether before interrogation, 
medical advice was taken about whether he 
would be able to bear the strain of the 
interrogation/ If the hon. Minister has got 
the information, he may tell us, or else he 
can supply it at a later date. He has not 
replied to this very relevent question. 

SHRl K. C. PANT : I do not know 
what the doctor told the people there after 
each examination. The very fact that he 
was under examination by a heart specialist 
and that he was also being examined thrice 
daily by the police doctor obviously shows 
how much care the Government there was 
taking to see that he was given proper 
medical care. That is the point. 

SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY I 
want a confirmation from Government .. 

MR. SPEAKER No confirmation, 
only a question. 

SHRl M. RAM GOPAL REDDY : Has 
any leader from Kashmir, including Sheikh 
Abdullah, died in our custody ? (Inter- 
ruptions) 

MR. SPEAKER: l have already allo- 
wed too many questions on this. I am 
passing on to the next item. 

SHRl PILOO MODY : I have asked 
only one question this whole session. 

MR. SPEAKER : Yes. 

SHRl PILOO MODY : I do not 
understand this questioning and answering 
procedure which tries to evade the relevant 
point. It has been admitted by the Minister 
that Shri Mazumdar was an ill man, suffer- 
ing from a very chronic disease called cardiac 
asthma. Under the circumstances, it was 
asked of the Minister how many hours of 
police grilling and interrogation did he have. 
This is very material to find out, because in 
spite of the fact that thev knew his medical 
condition, he was being interrogated not 
only bV Ministers but by policemen. And 
what methods were used, nobody knows. The 
Minister ask*, how is it relevant to the 
question ? This is the only relevant thing 
whether they killed him by interrogation 
(Interruption), 


MR. SPEAKER : Order, order. No such 
remarks should be made. 

SHRI K.C. PANT : I have never said 
whether it was relevant or not. I had only 
given the relevant facts in answer to the 
question about interrogation. My informa- 
tion is that the interrogation was being 
carried out only in brief spells because of 
his weak and poor health. Thrice a day 
doctors were seeing him. There was a heart 
specialist who was attending on him when- 
ever required. Therefore, the presumption is 
that all those people must have taken the 
precaution. I do not exactly know what the 
specialist said; nor do I know exactly what 
the doctors said. The facts speak for them- 
selves. This is the submission I make. 

SHRI R. V. BADE : As soon as Shri 
Mazumdar wasjarrested by the police, he 
must have been produced before the Magis- 
trate and the Magistrate must have remanded 
him to police or judicial custody. Was he 
examined at that very time by the judiciary 
or the Magistra e ? 

SHRI K.C. PANT : Being a lawyer, my 
hon friend knows the piocedure. So he 
knows that he was remanded to police 
custody. 

SHRI R.V. BADE : He must have been 
examined by the Magistrate. 

SHRI K. C. PANT : Yes. The Magistrate 
did remand him. He knows the procedure. 
I had said in the blginning — he would have 
known if he had listened to me carefully — 
that on being remanded to police custody, 
he continued to be under constant medical 
attention and treatment, as advised by the 
heart specialist. 


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45 Written Answers 


SRAVANA 26, 1894 (SAK4) 


Wrlten Answers 46 


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Supply of Tin Plates to Tin Can 
Manufacturing Units 

*249. SHRIK. SURY \NARAYANA: 
Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 
be p'eased to state : 

(a) the names of firms which have 
been granted C. O. B. licences for fabri- 
cating Tin containers for captive use with 
a manufacturing capacity of 1000 tonnes 
per annum and above during the current 
year (upto 30th June, 1972) ; and 

(b) whether any guidelines have been 
down for the supply of tin plates to these 
tin can-manufacturing units ? 

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND 
MINES (SHRI S MOHAN KUMARA- 
MANGALAM) ■ (a) During the current 
year (up to 30th June, 1972) only two 
C.O.B. (Carry on Business) licences for 
the fabrication of tin containers we’t issued 
to the Vanaspati Manufactuiers for their 
captive use. The names of the firms are 
as under : — 

(0 M/s. Premier Vegetable Products 
Lid , Jaipur. 

(ii) M/s. Bhavnagar Vegetable Pro- 
ducts Limited, Bhavnagar (Gujarat). 

(b) No guidelines have been laid down 
by Government for the supply of Tinplates 
to different units. The distribution of 
Tinplates is looked after by the Tinplate 
Producers* Consultative Committee. 

Reconvening of Geneva Type 
Conference on Vietnam 

*252. SHRI H. M. PATEL: Will the 
Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether the British Government 
one of the Co-Chairmen of the Geneva 
Conference on Vietnam, recently suggested 
the reconvening of the Geneva type con- 
ference m f 


(b) the reaction of the Soviet Union 
the other Co-Chairmen of the Geneva 
Conference in regard to the British 
suggestion; and 

(c) the reaction of Government to the 
British suggestion and whether there have 
been initiatives fiom India for solving the 
Vietnam problem ? 

THF MINISTER OF EXTERNAL 
AFFAIRS (SHRI SWARAN SINGH): (a) to 
(c). According to the information revealed 
in the House of Commons, the British 
Government had made such a proposal to the 
Soviet Union but the Soviet Union reportedly 
did not agree with it. This is a matter 
between the two Co-Chairmen and the 
Government of India feels that there should 
be agreement between them and Geneva 
Conference members before any progress 
can be made. Also it is Government of 
India’s view that fighting must stop in 
Vietnam first and a ceasefire arranged 
before any such conference could be held. 

German Technicians in Rourkcla 
Steel Plant 

*253. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOH- 
APATRA : Will the Mimsier of STEEL 
AND MINES be pleased to state the time 
by which the German technicians working 
in Rourkela Steel Plant are expected to 
leave the Plant ? 

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND 
MINES (SHRI S MOHAN KUMARA- 
MANGALAM) : There are at pressent 10 
German technicians at Rourkela Steel Plant. 
The contracts of these Un individuals will 
expire during the period September, 1972 — 

January 1973. 

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47 Written Answers 


AUGUST 17, 1972 


Written Answers 45 


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Industrial Accidents 

*256. SHRI FATE SINGH RAO 
GAEKWAD: 

DR. KARNl SINGH: 

Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to state: 

(a) whether the incidence of industrial 
accidents in the country has of late risen 
considerably; 

(b) if so, the total number of industrial 
mishaps during the last three years and how 
many of them proved fatal; 

(c) the total loss in terms of money and 
the total number of man-days lost as a 


result of industrial accidents during the 
above period; and 

(d) the steps proposed to be taken to 
improve the safety regulations ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHAD1L- 
KAR): (a) lo (c). A statement is laid on the 
Table of the Sabha. The information regar- 
ding total loss in terms of money is not 
available. 

(d) The Safety requirements laid down 
in the State Factories Rules framed under 
the Factories Act, 1948 and Regulations 
framed under the Mines Act, 1952 are cons- 
tantly reviewed, enlarged and improved upon 
wherever considered nccessarry. 



49 Written Answeri 


SRAVANA 26, 1894 ( SAKA ) 


Written Answers SO 


Statement 


No. of accidents and man-days lost in factories covered by the Factories Act, 1948 


Year 

Fatal 

Non-fatal 

Total 

No. of man-days lost 
on account of non-fatal 
accidents 

1968 

565 

2,26,893 


2,27,458 

25,90,854 

1969 

618 

2,61,997 


2,62,615 

29,87,587 

1970 

(Pro- 

visional) 

609 

2,87,496 


2,88,105 

28,94,914 

No. of accidents and man-days lost in mines covered by the Mines Act, 1952 



No. of accidents 

No. of 

persons 

Man days lost on account 



Fatal 

Serious 

Killed 

Seriously 

injured 

of Serious Injuries 
Estimated 

1969 

Coal 

211 

1,650 

232 

1,717 

97,869 


Non-coal 

78 

861 

89 

886 

49,616 

1970 

Coal 

194 

1,577 

212 

1,625 

68,250 


Non-coal 

58 

786 

66 

799 

42,347 

1971 

Coal 

199 

1,451 

231 

1,535 

79,820 


Non-coal 

65 

7S9 

73 

813 

39,837 


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Stoppage of Steel quota for 

Agriculture Ministry 

•258. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR : 

SHRI C.K. CHANDRAPPAN : 

Will the Minister of STEEL AND 
MINES be pleased to state : 

(a) whether his Ministry K as stopped th^ 
steel quota of the Agncirtture Ministry for 
the last one year which was being supplied 
for the la&t 25 years ; 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; and 

(c) whether there are any prospects of 
restoring the supplies of steel to Agriculture 
Ministry? 

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND 
MINES (SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA- 
MANGALAM)- (a) The system of allocation 
of “quotas” was given up when the Steel 
Distribution policy was revised in May 1970. 
All despatches from the Main Producers are 
now regulated in accordance with the 
Priority allocations decided every quarter 
by the Steel Priority Committee. The Prio- 
rity requisitions sponsored by the Agricul- 
ture Ministry are also given due considera- 
tion by the Steel Priority Committee. 

(b) and (c). Do not arise. 

I.L.O. Programme of Research 

•259.SHRI K.BALADHANDAYUTHAM: 
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to state : 


(a) whether the International Labour 
Conference has finalised a programme of 
research and action to help developing 
countries choose technologies offering the 
best possibilities of balanced economic, 
social and technical progress ; 

(b) whether any such research and action 
programme is to be taken up in India by 
International Labour Organisation; and 

(c) if so, the salient features thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. K.HADIL- 
KAR) : (a) to (c). No such programme 
has been finalised by the International 
Labour Conference. It, however, parsed a 
Resolution at its 57th Session (June 1972) 
layingNdown guide-lines for dealing with 
labour and social implications of automa- 
tion and other technological developments 
and requesting the Director General of the 
I L O . inter alia , to provide the developing 
countries at their request with suitable 
technical and research assistance to ensure 
positive results of the introduction of tach- 
nolog. cal innovation The Resolution has 
not been formally received by the Govern- 
ment of Ind a nor has it been examined yet 
b' the Government 

Workers Problems regarding settlement of 
claims and grant of Loans 

•260 SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI : 
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the poor workers and 
subscribers are faced with the problem of 
settlement of claim or grant of loans be- 
cause of the ignorance regarding the proce- 
dure to fill in the forms; 

(b) whether the desirability of getting 
printed long hand — bills in the form of 
notices regarding the procedure of getting 
claims settled or loans granted and paste 
them on the walls of the factories and 
mines remotely situated as other notes are 
pasted by the other departments under the 
Mines Act and the Factories Act has been 
considered; and 

(c) whether Government will consider 
the issuing of orders to all the Regional 



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Written Answers 54 


Conimissioners to meet the workers every- 
day 'at a fixed time and hear their grievan- 
ces like some Regional Commissioners who 
have already started doing this ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL- 
KAR) : The Provident Fund Authorities 
have reported as under : — 

(a) No such complaint has been received 
in this behalf. 

(b) Various forms including those for 
settlement of Provident Fund claims, grant 
of loans are, as a rule, printed bilingually 
in English and in the Regional language. 
It is therefore, not considered necessary to 
get long hand-bills printed in the form of 
notices and pasted on the walls of establish- 
ments. 

(c) Regional Commissioners generally meet 
workers and others who seek interview 
with them in connection with the Provident 
Fund affairs and take suitable action on 
their complaints. It does not appear necess- 
ary to issue separate orders in this behalf. 

Indo-Bangladesh consultations 

2380. SHRI E. V. VIKHE PATIL : Will 
Jhe Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government propose to 
have high level consultations with Bangla- 
desh on issues involving the three nations 
of the sub-continent, and 

(b) if so, by what time a decision on 
the matter is likely to* be taken ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) and 
(b). Government is in constant touch with 
the Government of Bangladesh on issues 
common to India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. 

Chief Engineer of a Public Under- 
taking in Rajasthan caught Red- 
Handed 

2381*. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR 
SINGH : 

SHRI HARI SINGH : 

Will the Minister of STEEL AND 
MINES be pleased to state : 


(a) whether the Central Bureau of 
Investigation have recently caught red han- 
ded a Chief Engineer of a Public Underta- 
king in Rajasthan for allegedly accepting 
a Graft of Rs. 5000/— from a Calcutta firm 
in a posh hotel of New Delhi; 

(b) if so, the names and other details 
of the persons taking and giving graft and 
the firms to which these persons belonged; 
and 

(c) the action proposed to be taken 
by Government to punish the persons 
involved ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STFEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) and (b). 
Yes, Sir. The Central Bureau of Investiga- 
tion received a complaint from a represent- 
ative of M/s Damodar Enterprises Ltd., 
Calcutta alleging that Shri Jacob C. Korah, 
Chief Engineer (Civil), Khe*ri Copper 
Project, was demanding a sum of Rs.5000 /- 
for having shown favours in restoring the 
contract as well as for acceptance of future 
supplies to be made by the firm without 
any objection. Accordingly, the C. B, I. 
laid a trap and caught the official concerned 
red handed while accepting the bribe from 
the complainant at Akbar Hotel, New Delhi 
on 16.6.72. 

(c) The case is under investigation by 
the Central Bureau of Investigation and 
appropriate action will be taken on receipt 
of their report. 

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Survey for Semi-Precious Stones 
in Trivandrum * 

2386. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will 
the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government are aware 
that in aU over Trivandrum District there 
are reported occurence of Semi-Precious 
stones and Private parties are working round 
the clock to extract them for the last five 
years; 

(b) whether any investigation has been 
mgde jon this by the Geological Survey of 
India; and 

(c) if SO, the mam features thereof 
and the steps taken to exploit these 
resources ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a). The 
sporadic occurrences of semi-precious stone 
namely chrysoberyl in parts of Nedumangad 
taluk in Trivandrum disrict have been 
known to Government. Government of 
Kerala are aware of attempts of illicit 
mining of previous stones in the area and 
have also taken action against persons 
engaged in illicit mining. 

(tO and (cL Investigation for gem 
quality chrysoberyl was taken up by Geolo- 
gical Survey of India in parts Quilon and 


Trivandrum districts during the field seasons 
1962-63, 1964-65 and 1969-70. The investi- 
gation has revealed that the chrysoberyl. 
appears to be accessory mineral in the 
pegmatites traversing the chrystalline rock 
and as detrital mineral in pebble beds and 
gravels. These investigations indicate that 
large scale exploitation of these stones in 
the area may not be economically viable. 

Defective functioning of Kerala Circle 
of geological Survey of India 

2387. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will 
the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be 
pleased to stale : 

(a, whether Government have received 
any representation regarding the defective 
functioning of the Kerala Circle of the 
Geological Survey of India; and 

(b) if so, the steps taken to streamline 
the administrative set up of this institution 
in Kerala ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a). Yes, 
Sir. A representation has been received 
recently. 

(b) The matter is under examination. 

Bihari and Non-Bihari feelings among 
workers of Hindustan Copper 
Limited 

2388. SHRI SWARAN SINGH SOKHI: 
Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the officers of Hindustan 
Copper Limited at Mohubhandar, Ghat- 
sila, Bihar are indulging in local politics 
and creating the feelings of Bihari and 
non -Bihari amongst the workers ; and 

(b) if so, the action Government propose 
to take in the matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a). No 
Sir. 


(b) Does not arise. 



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Mining of Bauxite at Nileshwar (Kerala) 

2389. SHRI RAMACHANDRAN KAD- 
ANNAPPALLI: Will the Minister of STEEL 
AND MINES be pleased to state the stage 
at which the investigation of mining Bauxite 
at Nileshwar in Cannanore District, Kerala 
State stands now 7 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI 
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): Exploration for 
bauxite in 4 blocks at Nileswar in Cinna- 
nore district of Kerala is in progress since 
October, 1970. Probable reserves of 1.76 
million tonnes of Bauxite with 40 to 60% 
alumina content has tentatively been estimat- 
ed in Block I where detailed drilling has 
been completed. Pitting for confirmation of 
drilling date is in progress. Detailed invest- 
gation by drilling in Block II is in p ogress 
and Bauxite horizon up to 6 35 metres thick- 
ness has been intersected in 23 boreholes. 
Preliminary test drilling in Blocks III and 
IV has been competed and follow up 
work is in progress 

Mercury deposits in Kerala 

2390. SHRI RAM\CHANDRAN 
KAD NNNAPALLJI . Will the Minister of 
STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: 

(a) whether Government have received 
the report of the Geological Survey of India 
regarding the investigation of the mercury 
dpeosits in Badagara in Kerala; and 

(b) if so, the stage at which the investi- 
gation is progressing ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI 
SHAHANAWAZ KHAN) : a) and (b). Pre- 
liminary investigation by Geological Survey 
of India for mercury near Badagara has been 
completed. The investigation has not reveal- 
ed the presence of any promising zone in 
this area. The Report is under preparation. 

-Unemployed Automobile Engineering 
Diploma Holders 

2391. SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA: Will 
the M nister of LABOUR AND REHABILI- 
TATION be pleased to state: 


(a) the number of unemployed Automo- 
bile Engineering Diploma holders on the 
live register of Employment Exchanges rn 
the country during the last three years, year- 
wise; 

(b) the number of such unemp'oyed 
engineers in Delhi; and 

(c) the steps Government propose to 
take to absorb them ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL- 
KAR): (a) and (b) The number of diploma 
holders in automobile engineering on the 
Live Register as at the end of each year is 
given below: 


Year 

All-India 

Delhi 

1969 

524 

26 

1970 

625 

39 

1971 

716 

40 


(c) In addition to the large number of 
employment opportunities generated as a 
lesultof implementation of various develop- 
ment programmes included in the Fourth 
Five Year Plan, increasing number of job 
opportunities are expected to be created by 
the Special Employment Oriented Schemes 
and Programmes taken up since the year 
1970-71 including programmes for the bene- 
fit of educated persons initiated during the 
year 1971-72. 

In the Union Budget for 1972-73 an 
aggregate provision of Rs. 125 crores has 
been made for Special Welfare Schemes. 
This amount includes a sum of Rs. 60 crores 
for Special Employment Programmes which 
woul$i be for the continuation of the various 
emp’oyment programmes taken up in 1971-72 
and for organising new programmes both in 
rura' and urban areas. These schemes will 
benefit the unemployed including the auto- 
mobt'e engineers in the country as well as 
in the Union Territory of Delhi. 

Contract of expension of Coke Ovens 
at Rourkela Steel Plant 

2392. SHRI SWARAN SINGH SOKHI: 

Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 
be pleaded to state : 



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Written Answers 64 


(a) whether the expansion of half battery 
of coke ovnes at Rourkela Steel Plant has 
been given on contract to a foreign firm, be- 
cause the Central Design Bureau, has failed 
to undertake the job; 

(b) if so, the total amount of the whole 
contract and the foreign exchange involved; 
and 

(c) the amount as penalty the Hindu- 
stan Steel Limited propose to impose on the 
contractor, if they fail to complete the 
construction of the coke oven within the 
stipulated time ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) Letter 
of intent for construction of an additional 
half Coke Oven Battery at Rourkela Steel 
Plant has been issued in favour of M/s.Otto 
India Private Ltd. The question of Central 
Engineering and Design Bureau failing to 
undertake this job does not arise as it is 
not intended for undertaking construction 
jobs. 

(b) According to the final quotation, the 
total contract value is Rs. 4.222 crores, 
including a foreign exchange component of 
Rs. 1.307 crores. Negotiations are still 
going on in regard to specifications of the 
fire bricks to be used. The result of these 
may affect the value of the contract. 


(c) M/s. Otto India Private Ltd., have 
accepted Hindustan Steel Limited’s general 
condition of contract regarding penalty for 
late delivery, which prescribes liquidated 
damages of 1% of the contract value for 
each completed month of delay, subject to 
a maximum of 3% of thee on tract value. The 
party is also required to pay penalties fox 
non fulfilment of performance guarantees 
subject to a ceiling of 3% of the total 
contract value. However, the overall ceiling 
on penalities for shortfall in performance 
guarantees and liquidated damages due to 
failure to complete the work in time, will 
be 5% of the total contract value. 

Implementation of Coal Wage Board 
recommendations by Coal Mine 
Owners in Assam, Nagaland 
and Meghalaya 

2394. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will 
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI- 
LITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) the names of the Coal mine owners 
of Assam, Nagaland and Meghalaya who 
have not yet implemented the Coal Wage 
Board Award; and 

(b) the steps taken against them ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRT R.K. KHADIL- 
KAR) : (a) The names of the Coal mines 
and the owners are as below : — 


SI. No. 

1 . 

2 . 

3. 

4. 

5. 

6 . 

7. 

8 . 


Colliery 

Name of owner 

Tipong Colliery 

M/s. Assam Railways & Trading Co. Ltd., 
Assam. 

Ledo Colliery 

— do — 

Bargalai Colliery 

— do — 

Dilli Colliery 

M/s. Dilli Collieries (Assam) Ltd. 

Koilajan Colliery 

M/s. Koilajan Collieries Ltd., Assam. 

Jeypore Colliery 

Jeypore Collieries (P) Ltd., Assam. 

Thanjinath Colliery 

Shri Ramanand Shah, P.O. Lebang, Shillong. 

Shilwata Colliery 

Shri H.P. Dutta, Dipali House, Shillong. 


(b) The recommendations are not enfor- mentation of the Wage Board recommenda- 
ceable statutorily and implementation is tions by collieries of M/s. Assam Railways 
secured largely through persuasion and and Trading Co. Ltd., Assam has been 
advice. A disputes relating to noo-imple- referred for adjudication. 



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SRAVANA 26, 1894 (SAKA) 


Written Answer 66 


Survey of underground Minerals in States 

2395. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will 
the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether any survey of underground 
minerals has been conducted in Assam, 
Nagaland, Meghalaya, Manipur, Tripura 
and Union Territories of Mizoram and 
Arunachal; 

(b) if so, the particulars thereof, mineral- 
wise and State-wise and Union Territory- 
wise; and 

(c) whether, based on the findings of the 
survey, any plan has been drawn up in this 
connection ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI 
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) and (b). A 
statement is laid on the Table of the House. 

(c) In Assam, coal and oil aie being 
exploited and a cement factory is being set 
up at Bokajan. In Meghalaya, limestone for 
cement plant at Chcrrapunji and silhmamte 
in Sonapahar arc being exploited Limestone 
investigations are being carried out by the 
Geological Survey of India for the proposed 
cement plant in Manipur. Government of 
Tripura are considering to establish small 
scale glass factory and ceiamic factory in 
the State. 

Statement 

As a result of investigations carried out 
by the Geological Survey of India in Assam, 
Nagaland, Meghalaya, Manipur, Tnpuia 
and Union Territories of Mizoram and 
Aiunachal, the minerals located in these 
States and Union Territories are given 
below : — ' 

Assam 

Coal. Investigations have recorded coal 
at Koilajan (0.6 million tonnes) in United 
North Cachar and Mikii Hills district, at 
Delli-Jeypore (20 million tonnes) and at 
Makum (191 million tonnes) in the districts 
of Lakhimpur and Sibsagar. 

Clay. Deposits of clay have been located in 


Mikir Hills and the reserves have been 
estimated in the order of 6 million tonnes. 

Iron Ore. Estimated reseves of iron ore 
aie of the order of 50 million tonnes jn 
Goalpara district. 

Limestone. Sizable deposits of lime- 
stone have been located at Koilajan,Garam- 
pam, Mcyang Disa, Jorapgaon end Bar 
Harigaon in United Mikir and North Cachar 
Hills district and along the boundary zone 
between Sibsagar and Nowgonj districts. 

Lepidohte Minor occurrence of lepido- 
lite reported from Goalpara district. 

Petroleum . Important oilfields are at 
Digboi, Naharkatiya and Moran in Lakhim- 
pur district. 

» 

Meghalaya 

Coal . The reserves of coal estimated 
are of the order of 422 Million tonnes in 
Garo Hills and 67 million tonnes in Khasi 
and Jaintia Hills. 

Clay. About 100 million tonnes of days 
have been estimated in Garo Hills and 
about 20 million tonnes in Khasi-Jamtia 
Hills 

Copper-lead-zinc. Geological and geo- 
physical work carried out in the Aumpyrtha 
area in United Khasi and Jaintia Hills 
district have revealed a small zone of copper- 
lead-zinc mineralisation of uneconomic 
dimensions. 

Limestone. Fx tensive deposits of good 
quality limestone have been located near 
Therriaghat-Shclla, Cherrapunji and at 
Nongkhalih in United Khasi and Jaintia 
Hills district. 

Sillimanite : Sillimanite is being exploited 
from Sonapahar deposit. 

Glass sand and occurrences of phospha- 
tic nodules have also been located in Khasi 
Hills. 

Manipur 

Limestone. Deposits of limestone have 
been located near Ukhrul, Hungdung, 



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Lambert and at places in Teagnoupal subdi- 
vision, Tfte total reserves of limestone 
occurring at these places have been estimated 
at about 3 million tonnes. Detailed investi- 
gation for limestone is being continued in 
Manipur. 

Occurances of lignite in Jiribum sub* 
division, clays associated with lignite and 
salt spring in Thoubal sub-division, nickel 
and chromite in Moreh have been investi- 
gated. So far the results are not encouraging. 

Nagaland 

Coal. The reserves of coal estimated in 
Naga Hills are of the order of 55 million 
tonnes. 

Tripura 

e 

Clay and glass sand. The principal 
minerals deposits of Tripura are clays and 
glass sand, the estimated reserves of which 
are of the order of 54.000 tonnes and 310,000 
tonnes respectively. 

Minor uneconom'c occurrences of lignite 
and a number of gas seepages were aho 
located. 

Arunachal Pradesh 

Coal. About 91 million tonnes of coal 
have been estimated in Namchik-Namphuk 
coalfield in Tirap district. Coal has also 
been located in parts of Siang and ICameng 
districts. 

Limestone . Reserves of limestone esti- 
mated at Tiding are of the order of 50 
million tonnes. 

Investigations have also located occur- 
rences of clays in Lohit district, Marble in 
Siang district, and lignite in Subansiri 
district, graphite in Lihit district, copper, 
lead and oil seepages in Tirap frontier and 
iron ore and mica in Subansiri district. 

Mizoram 

Geological mapping aud preliminary 
mineral investigation are being carried out 
in parts of Mizoram. 


Godowns of Hindustan Steel Limited 
in Assam 

2396. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will 
the minister of STEEL AND MINES be 
pleased to state : 

(a) the names of the godowns, if any, 
of the Hindustan Steel Limited in Assam; 
and 

(b) the names of the appointed agents, 
if any, of the Hindustan Steel Limited, to 
sell its products in Assam ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) Hindu- 
stan Steel Limited have a Branch Sales 
Office-cum-Stockyard in Gauhati. 

(b) Hindustan Steel Limited have not 
appointed any agents to sell their products. 
The materials received in their stockyard at 
Gauhati are sold by them directly. 

Indo-Israeli Relations 

2397. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will 
the Mmistei of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have taken 
any decision regarding the establishment of 
diplomatic relations with Israel; and 

(b) if not, whether there is any possi- 
bility of establishment of diplomatic 
relations with Israel tn the near future ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PaL SINGH) : (a) 
and (b). While Government of India ex- 
tended de jure recognition to Israel in 
September, 1952, no proposal is under 
Government’s consideration for establishing 
diplomatic relations. 

Advertisement for recruitment of Indian 
Doctors for Nigeria 

2398. SHJU CHANDRA SHEKHAR 
SINGH : Will the Minister of 'EXTERNAL 
AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Mid-Western State 
Hospital Management Board of Nigeria had 



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Written Answers 70 


advertised for recruitment of Indian doctors 
In this country’s Newspaper on 25th May, 
19/2; 

(b) if so, the number of Indian doctors 
selected by them, and whether approval of 
his Ministry was made in this regard and 
whether permission for recruitment of Indian 
doctors was taken by the Nigerian Hospital 
Authorities; 

(c) if so, whether the exodus of Indian 
doctors in this manner in large numbers is 
being encouraged by Government and const i 
tutes another bad example of “brain drain” 
and 

(d) the steps Government propose to 
stop this type of “brain drain” by foreign 
hospitals in India ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHR1 SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) 
Yes Sir. 

(b) The number of doctors, if an>, 
if any, selected is not known as the recruit- 
ment was being made directly by the 
Nigerian authorities. The Government of 
India’s permission was not sought. 

(c) Government does not encourage a 
large scale exodus of Indian doctors. How- 
ever, it is the Government of India’s policy 
to assist fellow developing countries to the 
extent possible by making available the 
services of Indian experts m various fields, 
including medicine. This is m accordance 
with the basic tenets of cooperation among 
developing countries to which the Govern- 
ment of India subscribes. In this instance 
it seems that similar advertisements for the 
recruitment of doctors appeared simultane- 
ously in India, United Kingdom, Canada 
and, perhaps, also other countries. The 
State Hopsital Management Board, Benin 
City, have apparently not finalised their 
selection and no Indian doctor has been 
recruited so far. Nevertheless, it may be 
noted that under this scheme, doctors will 
serve, for a limited period on a contract at 
the expiry of which they would naturally be 
expected to return to India. 

(d) The Government of India encour- 
ages foreign governments to recruit their 


requirements through the good offices of 
the Government of India with the help of 
the administrative appratus devised for this 
purpose. This helps to keep a check on 
the outflow of our expertise while at the 
same time ensuring the Goverrment’s inte- 
rest in cooperating with the foreign govern- 
ment concerned by rendering assistance. 

Role of United Nations Military 
Observers 1 group In J & K 

2399. SHRI S. A. MURUGA- 

NANTHAM : 

SHRI B. V. NAIK : 

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL 
AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the United Nations 
Military Observers’ Group in Jammu and 
Kashmir has cea ed to have any functional 
role since the f949 ceasefire line no longer 
exists; 

(b) whether under the Simla Agree- 
ment the responsibility of maintaining peace 
along the' line of control of 1971 has been 
assumed by India and Pakistan; and 

(c) whether in the context of these 
developments. Government would demand 
the winding up of the United Nations 
Military Observers’ Group in Jammu and 
Kashmir ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER JN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) 
Yes, Sir. 

(b) Under paragraph 4(ii) of the Simla 
Agreement, India and Pakistan have bilate- 
rally agreed to respect the line of control 
in Jammu and Kashmir which came into 
effect on 17th December, 1971, not to alter 
it unilaterally, and to refrain from the 
threat or the use of force in violation 
of it, 

(c) Govcrtment have made the position 
clear. It is for the U.N. to decide whether 
the U.N. observers should be removed from 
the aiea. 

Briefing of Journalists at Simla 

2400. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH : 



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Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Secretary, Ministry of 
External Affairs, mvitei selected journalists 
for a d nner briefing at Simla during the 
Summit; 

fb) whether journalists of some impor- 
tant regional and language papers were left 
out; and 

(c) if so, the reasons therefor and the 
names of the journalists invited and those 
excluded, separately ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) No, 
Sir. 

(b) and (c). It was consrdered desirable 
that the Foreign Secretary should give some 
background information only to some selec- 
ted senior Indian journalists and columnists 
the evening before President Bhutto's arrival 
in Simla. For such a selected briefing 
usually all national newspapers, all national 
news agencies, and some representative and 
important regional and language papers are 
invited. This was done in the present case 
also. Naturallv, not all the regional and 
language papers who had representatives 
covering the Simla Summit could be asked 
because of the numbers involved Such 
briefings are always informal and arranged 
at the last moment. No separate offuial 
list was prepared of the names of journalists. 
All the journalists asked and all those 
excluded cannot at this stage be recalled for 
the reason that no lists were maintained. 

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Compensation to be paid By pakistan 
in respect of Investment on 
Railway lines in Occupied 
Territory 

2402 .SHRI N. K. SANGHI : Will the 
Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 
pleased to slate : 

(a y whether there was any discussion 
with the Pakistan President during the 
Summit talks in Simla for compensation to 
be paid to India for such investment on 
Railway lines made by India in the occup- 
ied territories which were to be returned 
to Pakistan as a result of the agreement; 
and 

(b) if so, the outcome of the discuss- 
ion > 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) No, 
Sir. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Indo-Pak Relations with regard to 
trade, commerce and Air Services 

2403. SHRI R. S. PANDEY : 

SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHRY ; 

Will the Minster of EXTERNAL AFF- 
AIRS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether some steps have been taken 
so far after the signing of the Indo— Paki- 
stan agreement at Simla recently to norma- 
lise relations with ragard to trade, comm- 
erce and air services between the two 
countries; 

(b) if so, the main features thereof; 

and 

(c) what steps are contemplated to 
establish further cooperation in these sphe- 
res in the near future ? 



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Written Answers 74 


THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRl SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) to 
(c) These and other normalisation measures 
will be taken up when the delegations of 
the two sides meet. The date of such a 
meeting has not yet been fixed. 

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Reduction in DA of Engineering 
Workers in West Bengal 

2405, SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU 
SHRI DINEN BHATTA- 
CHARYYA : 

Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Engineering industry 
in West Bengal has recently reduced tlie 
amont of Dearness Allowance to be paid 
to the Engineering workers; 


(b) if so. the extent of this cut in 
respect of the workers drawing less then 
Rs. 400 per month and the grounds for 
this D. A. cut 

(c) whether the attention of Govern- 
rrient has been drawn to wide-spread resent- 
ment among the Engineering workers 
against this action of the employers; 
and 

(d) if so, the action, if any. being 
taken in this regard ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL 
KAR) : (a) and (b). Information is not 
available; 

(c) and (d). The State Government is 
the “Appropriaie Government*’ in respect 
of industrial delation in the Engineering 
industry and it would be for them to take 
action in the matter. 

Discussion Regarding Amenities 
to Indian POWs in Pakis. 
tan at Simla 

2406. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR : 

SHRI VEKARIA: 

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL 
AFFAIR be pleased to state whether ques- 
tion of amenities to the Indian Prisoners of 
War was also taken up during the Simla 
Summit ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OE EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : while 
the question of amenities to Indian Prisoners 
of War was not raised during the Summit 
talks t at Simla, Government have constantly 
pursued this matter through the Interna- 
tional Committee of the Red cross which 
performs the humanitarian functions under 
the Geneva Conventions relating to pri- 
soners of war. 

Purchase of Ammonium Sulphate 
at High Price 

2407. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will 
the Minister of SUPPLY be pleased to 
state : 



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(a) whether last yetr purchases of 
Ammonium Sulphate weft made at very 
high prices causing loss to the Government 
to the tune of several lakhs of rupees; 

(b) whether the European suppliers 
sold Ammonium Sulphate to the Middle- 
Eastern countries at a price which was 
much lower than the price at which they 
sold to India and if so, the reasons therefor; 
and 

(c) the price paid by India and that 
paid by the Middle Eastern countries and 
whether Government have made any investi- 
gation into this matter and fixed the responsi- 
bility for the loss caused to the Nation ? 

THE M1N1STFR OF SUPPLY (SHRI 
D. R. CHAVAN) : (a). The prices of ferti- 
lisers fluctuate from time to time depending 
upon the availability and 'the compelling 
demands at a particular point of time 
Ammonium Sulphate was purchased last 
year at the prices prevailing at that time 
after negotiations. 

(b) and (c). The price paid by India 
varied from $ 13 25 to $ 14.80 per Metnc 
Tonne f o. b. for the purchases made 
during the period from August 1971 to 
December 1971. No official confirmation 
fa .available regarding the actual price 
ftportedly paid earlier that year hy a Middle 
Eastern Country, 

Resumption of Telephone and 
Postal Facilities with 
Pakistan under Simla 
Agreement 

2408 SHRI M. S SANJEFVI RAO : 
SHRI E. V. V1KHE PAT1L : 

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL 
AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the arrangements have been 
flnallised to resume the telephone and 
postal facilities envisaged under the Simla 
Agreement! 

(b) if so, the nature thereof; and 

(c) when this arrangement will be 
given effect to ? 


THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) to 

(c). The arrangements will be worked out 
when delegations of the two countries 
meet, as envisaged in the Simla Agreement, 
A date for this meeting has not yet been 
fixed. 

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Loss incurred hy Gujarat Mineral 
Development Corporation 

2410 * SHRI PRABIM DAS PATEL : 
will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 
be pleased to state: 

(a) whether Gujarat Mineral Develoment 
Corpoiation incurred a Joss of Rs. 13, 
76,000 during 1970-71 as against Rs. 44,82,000 
during the previous year; 

(b) if so the reasons theicfor, and 

(c) whether the Corporation h?d to 
revise the cost of the beneficiator plant from 
Rs . 2.1 crorcs in 1966 to Rs, 4.8 crores in 
1969 ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STFEL AND MINES (SHRI 
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) (a) to (c). The 
information is being collected from the 
Government of the Gujarat as the Corpora- 
tion is a State Government Undertaking and 
will be laid on the Table of the House when 
iceeived. 



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Ratification of siula Agreement 
By Pakistan 

2411. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY: 

SHRI M S. SIVASAMY : 

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFF- 
AIRS be pleased to state: 

(a) whether Government had received 
on the 18th July, 1972 some papers of rati- 
fication from Pakistan of the simla Agree- 
ment through Swiss Ambassador; and 

(b) if so, the nature thereof and the 
reaction of the Government thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) and 
(b). On 18th July 1972 Government received 
through the Swiss Ambassador in New 
Delhi, Pakistan’s Instrument of Ratification 
of the Simla Agreement. 

India’s Instrument of Ratification, duly 
signed by the President, was forwarded, 
to the Government of Pakistan through 
Swiss diplomatic channels on August 4, 1972. 

State Government Response to National 
Arbitration Promotion Board’s 
Proposal on Arbitration 

2412. SHRI P. M. MEHTA : Will the 
Minister of 1ABOUR AND REHABILI- 
TATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the State Governments have 
examined the proposal of National Arbitra- 
tion Board to resolve Industrial Disputes 
throdgh arbitration; and 

(b) if so, the response from the States ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADI- 
LKAR) : (a) and (b). The proceedings of the 
fifth meeting of the National Arbitration 
Promotion Board containing conclusions of 
the meeting, including the proposal to reso- 
lve iudustrial disputes through arbitration, 
were circulated to the State Gonernments 
and Union Territory Administrations on 
July 25, 1972 for their information and 
necessary action. None of the State Govern- 
ments/Union Territory Administrations has 
so far conveyed its decision in the matter. 


Indus water for Kutch 

2415. SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZALPU- 
RKAR : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL 
AFFAIRS be pleased to stase : 

(a) whether there has been talks 
between the Prime Minister of India and 
the President of Pakistan regarding the 
question of making available part of the 
Indus waters to Kutch; and 

(b) if so, the nature threof ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) No. 
Sir. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Expansion of Private Sector Alumi- 
nium Plants 

2416. DR. RANEN SEN : Will the 
Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased 
to state : 

(a) whether the private sector alumini- 
um plants have asked for permission to 
expand their production; 

(b) if so, the particulars of the expan- 
sion programme submitted by private 
sector aluminium plants; and 

(c) the decision taken thereon ? . 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI 
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) to (c). No 
new application for permission to expand 
their existing capacity for production of 
aluminium has been received from the 
private sector companies. However, the 
letter of intent issued to the Indian Alumi- 
nium Company in December, 1966 for 
expansion of their Belgaum Smelter from 
40,000 to 60,000 tonnes per annum may be 
converted into a regular industrial licence. 

Ko>na Aluminium Project 

2417. DR. RANEN SEN : Will the 
Minister of STEEL AND MINES be plea- 
sed to state : 



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(a) whether the KtJiyna Aluminuim 
Project is likely to run into hea\y losses 
when it reaches full production because of 
bad planning and high cost of transporting 

'raw materials from long distance; 

(b) whether expert* have suggested 
that it would be more economical to delay 
the project and to change its present locat- 
ion rather than continue the plans and 
incur recumrg heavy losses every year; and 

(c) if so, the reaction of Government 
thereto ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) (a) No, 
Sir. 

(b) and (c). The report of the Commi- 
tree set up for examination of the transpor- 
tation problems of the project is awaited. 

Projected demand for Aluminium 

2418. DR. RANEN SEN : W.1J the 
Minister of STEEL AND MINES be plea- 
sed to state ; 

(a) the projected demand for rlupiimm 
in the next five years; and 

(b) how Government propose to meet 
this demand ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) The 
estimated demand for Aluminium during 
the next five years is given below : — 


Year 

Estimated demand 
in thousand tonnes 

1973-74 

274 

1974-75 

301 

1975-76 

332 

1976-77 

365 

1977-78 

401 


(b) The present capacity for production 
of aluminium in the country in 178,850 
tonnes per annum. Additional capacity to 
the extent of 251,000 tonnes per annum 
has been licensed/approved which will, 


when installed, be sufficient to meet the 
above demand. 

Participation of Labour in Manage* 
ment for Raising Production 

2419. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will 
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHA- 
BILITATION be pleasedto state . 

(a) whether participation of labour in 
management has been accepted as one of 
the formost reasons for raising the produ- 
ctions in the country; 

(b) if so, wl ether such recommenda- 
tions have been sent to all the Ministries 
under Central Government and the State 
Governments, and 

(c) if so. their reactions thereto ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K K1IADIL- 
KAR) : (a) to (c). Apart from the statutory 
woiks committee, the scheme of Joint 
Management Councils has been in opera- 
t’on on a voluntary basis both in public 
and private sector undertakings The Central 
Government have also decided to introduce 
a scheme for the appointment of a workers 
representative on the Boards of Manage- 
ment of seme appropriate public sector 
underfak ngs. The Nationalised Banks 
(Management and Miscellaneous Provission) 
Scheme, 1970 framed under the Banking 
Companies (Acquisition and Transfer of 
Undertakings) Act, 1970 inter-alia , provides 
for the appointment of ore Di lector from 
among the employees of the Nationalised 
Bank who are workmen on the Board of 
Directors. A scheme for the workers to 
hold some shares in suitable central public 
sector undertaking is also undei consider- 
tion of the Government. The State Govern- 
ments and Ministries are aware of these 
schemes. 

National Council of Trade Unions 
on Industrial Relations 

2420. SHRI GIR1DHAR GOMANGO: 
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to stale. 

(a) whether the National Council of 
Central Trade Unions, consisting three 



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Central Trade Unions bodies were studying 
areas of cooperation; and 

(b) if so, whether they have submitted 
their views on the Ministry of Labour and 
Rehabilitation’s scheme to the Industrial 
Relations Law to be introduced in the 
present session 7 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHA- 
DILfCAR) : (a). The National Council of 
Trade Unions has been formed with the 
main object of promoting understanding, 
cooperation and coordination in the activi- 
ties of trade unions; 

(b) The views expressed by Trade 
Union Centres and others will be taken in- 
to account in framing a Law on industrial 
relations, which is expected to be intro- 
duced in the next Session of Parliament. 

Indo-South Korean Talks Regarding 
Reunification of Korea 

2421. SHRI H. N. MUKHERJEE : 
SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : 

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL 
AFFAIRS be pleas d to state . 

(a) whether the Consul-General of 
South Korea in New Delhi had recently 
held talks with the officials of his Ministry; 

(b) whether the Consul-General had 
lasied the issue of Korean reunification and 
the talks held between the representatives 
of the Korea in this respect; and 

(c) if so, the outcome of talks ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) ; (a). 
No, Sir. 

(b) and (c). Do not arise. 

Use of Toxic Chemicals By U. S. A. 
in Vietnam 

2422. SHRI H. N. MUKHERJEE: 

SHRI RAJDEO SINGH . 

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFF- 
AIRS be pleased to state; 


(a) whether toxic chemicals are being 
used by American Forces in South Vietnam 
in the war against the National Liberation 
Forces; 

(b) whether this fact has been brought 
to the notice of the United Nations and the 
member countries by the International Cont- 
rol Commission for Vietnam; and 

(c) if so, what action is being taken by 
the United Nations to put a stope to use 
of poisonous chemicals by the United States 
in Vietnam ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) (a) Gove- 
rnment have seen reports about the use of 
chemical weapons by the USA in Vietnam. 

% 

(b) No, Sir, The International Control 
Commission does not come under the U. N. 

(c) Does not arise. 

Employees State Insurance Hospitals 
In Tamil Nadu 

2123. SHRI S. A. MURUGANA- 
NTHAM, Will the Minister of LABOUR 
AND REHABILITATION be pleased 
to state : 

(a) the number of Employees’ State Ins- 
urance Hospitals in Tamil Nadu at present; 

(b) how many of them arc being run in 
rented buildings and the total monthly rent 
paid to the owners of these buildings; and 

(c) the number of hospitals proposed to 
be opened m the State in the next thiee 
years ,? 

THE Ml ISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K KHADIl • 
KAR) : The Employees’ State Insu ance 
Corporation has furnished the following 
information : 

(a) There are three Employees’ State 
Insurance Hospitals and five Employees* 
S'ate Insurance Annexes in the State of 
Tamil Nadu at present. In addition, three 
Employees’ State Insurance Annexes are 
under construction. 



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(b) No hospital is bsing run in a rented 
building and as such, there is no question 
of payment of any rent. 

(c) No new hospital is tifcely to be open- 
ed in the next three years. 

Non-Allocation of Funds For opening 
New Hospitals In Tamil Nadu 
Under Employees’ State 
Insurance 

2424. S. A. MURUGANANTHAM: Will 
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILI- 
TATION be pleased to state. 

(a) whether his attention has been drawn 
to the statement made by the Tamil Nadu 
Chief Minister on the 6th June, 1972 that 
the Centre has not allotted any money for 
opening new hospitals in the State under 
the Employees State Insuranre Scheme; and 

(b) if so. Government’s reaction thereto? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL- 
KAR): (a) No. 

(b) Funds for opening new Hospitals 
under the Employees’ State Insurance Sceh- 
eme are made available not by the Central 
Government but by the Employees 4 Stae 
Insurance Corporation. The Corporation has 
reported that in case of Tamil Nadu State, 
the number of beds sanctioned is 1501, as 
against the entitlement of 1945 beds accor- 
ding to the existing yard-stick. There is, 
therefore, no likelihood of construction of 
new Hospitals in Tamil Nadu State in the 
nxet five years. 

Incidents of Strikes and Lock-Outs 

2425 KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI : 
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHA- 
BILITATION be pleased to state: 

(a) the name of the State in which the 
largest number of strikes and lock-outs 
occurred during the last three years; 

fb) whether the number of workers in 
Bihar involved in labour agitation is the 
highest; and 

(c) if so, the reasons threfore and the 
steps taken by Government to remove it ? 


THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K, KHADIL- 
KAR) : (a) The largest number of strikes 
and lock outs during 1969, 1970 and 1971 
were reported in Maharashtra; 

(b) According to available information, 
this is not so; 

(c) Does not arise. 

Purchase of Non-N.etal Helmets in 1965 

2426. PROF. NARAIN CHAND 
PARASHAR ■ Will the Minister of 
SUPPLY be pleased to state : 

(a) whether after the purchase of non- 
metal helmets m 1965, complaints were 
lodged by the users about the size of the 
helmets and no serious notice was taken of 
these complaints; 

(b) whether any investigation is contem- 
plated into the matter and whether any 
responsibilty will be fixed for these lapses; 
and 

(c) The period by which such an investi- 
gation would be completed ? 

THE MINISTER OF SUPPLY (SHRI 
D. R. CHAVAN) : (a) to (c). Helmets 
were purchased on behalf of the 
Ministry of Home Affairs for the State 
Governments. Complaints were made by 
the State Governments to the Ministry of 
Home Affairs. The lapses involved in this 
case, tn so far as the DGS&D are concer- 
ned, are being investigated and they would 
be completed as soon as possible. 

Long Term Plan for Dandakaranya 
Project 

2427. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- 
SHAR : Will the Minister of LABOUR 
AND REHABILITATION be pleased to 
state : 

(a) Whether the Department of Rehabili- 
tation propose to prepare a long term plan 
for the Dandakaranya project regarding 
the rehabilitation of families in the project, 
and 

(b) Whether any date has been fixed 
for the preparation of this plan and its 
presentation to parliament ? 



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; THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- 
KAR) (a) and) (b). Pending preparation 
of a master plan for the Dandakaranya 
Region by the Town and Country Planning 
Organisation, the programmes for resett- 
lement of displaced persons and area develo- 
raent in Dandakaranya are being taken 
up and executed by the Dandakaranya 
Development Authority according to annual 
plans drawn up on the basis of availa- 
bility of land and resouices. 

The Town and Country planning Orga- 
nisation have indicated that an outline plan 
for the Dandakaranya sub-region will take 
2 years in its preparation. 

Norms for Haulage and Cultivation 
Output of tractors in Danda- 
karanya Project 

2428. PROF. NARAIN CHAND 
PARASHAR : Will the Minister of 
LABOUR AND REHABILITATION be 
pleased to state : 

(a) Whether a suitable norm for out- 
put of tractors in respect of both haulage 
and cultivation with regard to the Danda- 
karanya Project has been prescribed as 
desired and lecommendcd by the Public 
Accounts Committee; 

(b) if so, the description of this norm; 
and 

(c) if not, the period by which the 
norm is likely to be prescribed ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABIL11 ATI ON (SHRI R. K.KHADIL- 
KAR) (a) to (c) : On the recommendation ol 
the Publie Accounts Committee in is Nine- 
teenth Report, norms for output of tarac- 
tors in respect of both haulage and cult- 
ivation have been fixed by the Dandakaranya 
Project Administration, after taking into 
account the peculiar conditions of the 
project area. The norms tentatively fixed 
are 660 hours of woik (300 hours for agr- 
icultural work and 300 hours for non-agricu- 
ltural work) per tractor per year. These 
norms are, however, being examined further 
in consultation with the Ministry of Agr- 
iculture. 


Scheme of Power Tillers 

2429. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- 
SHAR : Will t he Minister of LABOUR 
AND REHABILITATION be pleased to 
state ; 

(a) whether the Committee on Power 
Tillers have reported that the basic consi- 
deration on which the seheme of Power 
Tillers was introduced has not been found 
to be true; and 

(b) if so. whether Government have 
fixed any responsibility for this faulty 
planning ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- 
KAR) : (a) and (b). The basic considera- 
tions on which *the scheme to use Power 
Tillers in Dandakarnya was formulated, 
were as follows : — 

(1) At that time diversified cropping 
had not been introduced. Single 
cropping was being practised and, 
therefore, it was felt that it would 
not be possible for a pair of 
bullocks to plough the entire hold- 
ing of about 6 acres allotted to a 
settler in Dandakaranya; 

(2) The bullock markets were not well 
established at that time and bullocks 
weie not available in sufficient 
numbers; 

(3) It was felt, at that time, that co- 
operative farming or group farm- 
ing would be practised by the 
migrants. The use of Power Tillers 
would have been useful in such 

* farming; 

Taking the experience of the 
past few years, the Committee on 
Power Tillers found that these pre- 
mises were not holding good in 
that : — 

(i) With the introduction of diver- 
sified cropping patterns and stagger- 
ing of various agricultural opera- 
tions over the session, a pair of 
bullocks had been found capable of 
carrying out the work on the 



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normal agricultural holding of a 
settler. 

(ii) The P oject Administration had 
been making vigouious efforts to 
tap various cattle markets in the 
region and it had been possible for 
them to p.ocuie adequate number 
of bul’ocks for the settler families 
inducted each year. 

(ni) While group farming was 
practised in the Dandakakaranya 
only in the first year of induction 
of families (since individual allot- 
ment was not possible by that time) 
no group or cooperative farming 
had, in fact, been adopted by the 
settlers on a regular or long term 
basis. Hence the use of Power 
Tillers on group or cooperative 
farming basis had 1 to be ruled 
out. 

Besides, the settlers in Dandaka- 
ranya were not adequately mecha- 
nically minded so as to be capable 
of handling Power Tillers and 
attending to minor repairs, etc. 

It would be observed from the 
above facts, that there was no fault 
m planning the scheme of use of 
Power Tillers in Dandakaranya. It 
was only after practical experience 
of a few years that the banc pre- 
mises, on which the Scheme had 
originally been formulated, were 
found to be no longer holding 
good. 

Representation from firms requesting 
for supply of Tin Plates 

2430. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA : 
Will the Minister ofSIEFLAND MINES 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether any rep’esentations have 
been received by his Ministry from the firms 
which have been granted C.O.B. licences for 
fabircating tin containers requesting for the 
supply of tin plates; and 

(b) if so, their particulars and the action 
taken or proposed to be taken in the 
matter 7 


THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI 
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) and (b) . A 
representation was received fiom M/s. 
Premier Vegetable Products Ltd., claiming 
to have received a C.O B. licence for fabri- 
cating Tin Containers, with a capacity of 
1,000 Tonnes per annum, and asking for 
supply of Tinplates. As there is no statu- 
tory control over the distribution of Tin- 
p’ate, which is looked after by the Tinplate 
Producers Consultative Committee, the rep- 
resentation was passed on to that Commi- 
ttee for consideration under advice to the 
firm. 

Visits by Regional Provident Fund 
Commissioner, Bihar 

2431. SHRI R P. YADAV : Will the 
Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILITA- 
TION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government are aware 
that new coverage under the Employees 
Provident Funds Organisation are not taking 
place in the region of Bihai because the 
Regional Commissioner and Assistant 
Commissioner are not personally visiting 
these places ond supervising the same; 

(b) whether they have ever visited 
Palamu, where a large number of Dolmite- 
mines are situated or the Chaibasa where 
China-clay Mines are located or North 
Bihar, where rice mills have not implemen- 
ted the Employees’ Provident Funds Act 
properly; and 

(c) whether Government propose to 
issue orders to these efficials to conduct 
intensive surveys for coverages etc. ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- 
KAR) : The Provident Fund authorities 
have reported as under : — 

(a) It is not correct to say that new 
coverages under the Employees' Provident 
Funds and Family Pension Fund Act. 1952 
and the Seheme framed thereunder are not 
taking place in the B»har region and 
that the Reg onal /Assistant Commissioner 
is not Visaing various establishments. 

(b) Provident Fund Inspectors of the 
Employees Provident Fund Organisation are 



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entrusted with tne jjb of Inspection/Inve- 
stigation of various establishments. The 
Assistant /Regional Commssioner has also 
visited a number of establishments situated 
at various places as was found necessary in 
the interest of smooth administration and 
enforcement of the Act and the Scheme 
framed thereunder. 

(c) General instructions for surveys to 
be conducted by officials have already been 
issued in this behalf. 

Wage Board for Workers in 
Construction Industry 

2432. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will 
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILI- 
TATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether a final decision has been 
taken lo appoint a wage Board for 
the workers employed in the Construc- 
tion Industiy; 

(b) whether the workers, under the 
leadership of All India Hindustan Construc- 
tion Workers Union, h ve decided to launch 
a direct action :n case the Wage Board is 
not appointed by the end of September. 
1972 and if so, the reaction of the Govern- 
ment; and 

(c) whether the workers employed in 
Construction Industry in India are not 
covered by the Gratuity Scheme and have 
also not been brought under the purview of 
Provident Fund benefit scheme, if so. the 
steps taken by Government to bring them 
under the various provisions of the Law ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K KHADIL- 
KAR) : (a) It is not proposed to set 
up a Wage Board for the Construction 
Industries; 

(b) Government are not aware of this 
decision; 

(c) Central legislation on Gratuity has 
been passed by Parliament recently. It would 
cover the Construction Industry also. As 
regards the application of the Provident 
Fund Scheme to this industry, the matter is 
being considered. 


Support to India’s Efforts regarding 
Vietnam War 

2433. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will 
the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether during his recent tour in 
many foreign countries in July, 1972, many 
countries have assured of their whole-hearted 
support, in India’s efforts to reduce chances 
of further escalation of war in Vietnam; 
and 

(b) if so, which are those countries ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) and 
(b). In most of the countries visited by 
the Minister of External Affairs in July this 
year, the Vietnam problem came up in the 
course of discussions. Deep concern was 
expressed by these countries over the conti- 
nuing war situation in Vietnam and there 
was apprecia ion of the views expressed by 
India for an eaily end to these hostilities 
and for a fair and just settlement of the 
Vietnam problem. 

Security Personnel in Rourkela 
Steel Plant 

2434. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER 
MOHAPATRA : Will the Minister of 
STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state : 

(a) the total number of security perso- 
nnel in Rourkela Steel Plant, 

(b) the total number out of them, who 
have opted for Central Industrial Security 
Force and absorbed in the Plant; and 

($) the time by which the remaining 
personnel are expected to be absorbed ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) to (c). 
The total number of security personnel in 
Rourkela Steel Plant was 878. Of these 226 
opted to join the Central Industrial Security 
Force (C.I.S.F). Out of the 226, 136 have 
been selected for absorption in C.I.S.F. and 
the remainging 90 have been earmarked for 
absorption in the plant. 



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Such of the Security petionnel who did 
not opt for C.I.S.F. have been retrenched 
from Service with effect from 1 3.1972. 
Later, the Management have given re- 
employment to 298 out of these who had 
completed more than 10 years of service and 
were found suitable. 

Quarters in Rourkela Steel Plant 

2435. SHRT SHYAM SUNDER 
MOHAPATRA : Will the Minister of 
STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the cheap type of quarters 
in the Rourkela Steel Plant have gone below 
the minimum plinth area prescribed for the 
quarters; and 

(b) if so, the t»me by which it is 
expected to be made good ? 

9 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHR1 SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) Prior 
to formulation of standards by the Bureau 
of Public Enterprises, some barrack type 
houses of 300 square feet plinth area were 
constructed at the initial stage of construc- 
tion of the township. 

(b) There is no proposal to make 
gcod the shortage of plinth aiea in these 
quarters. Therj has however been no futher 
construction of cheep type quarters of the 
barrack t>pe. 

Deputationists working in Steel Plants 

2436. SHRT SHYAM SUNDER 
MOHAPATRA . Will the Minister of STEEL 
AND MINES be pleased to refer to the 
reply given to Unstarred Question No. 751 
on the 3rd August, 1972 regarding deputa- 
tionists in the Steel Plant and state : 

(a) the time by which tie deputation- 
ists woiking in Steel Plants are expected to 
be reverted back; and 

(b) the policy involved in allowing 
deputationists to continue working in the 
Steel Plants ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZK HAN) : (a) and (b). 
Except for appointments made by Govern- 


ment in terms of the Articles of Association 
of the Company, it is for the authorities 
of Hindustan Steel Limited and Bokaro 
Steel Limited to secure or retain the 
services of Government employees on depu- 
tation having regard to their own require- 
ments .and interests. The Government 
have, however, already decided that members 
of the peimanent civil services (other than 
those who belong to the Industrial Manage- 
ment Pool) on deputation or proceeding on 
deputation hereafter should excercise within 
a stipulated period, an option between 
permanent absorption in the service of the 
undertaking and reversion to the parent 
department. The reversion of the existing 
deputationists from the Central Government 
will, therefore, be governed b> this decision 
In the case of State Government employees 
on deputation, the mat r er would have to be 
settled by ti e Undertaking with the State 
Governments concerned. 

Recommendations of Loomba Committee 
in Rourkela Steel Plant 

2437. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER 
MOHAPATRA : Will the Minister of 
STEEL AND MIbES be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Loomba Committee’s 
recommendations have been fully imple- 
mented in Rourkela Steel Plant; and 

(b) if not, the recommendations which 
remain to be implemented ? 

THE MINISTER OF i>TATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) and (b). 
The implementation of the recommendations 
of the Locmba Committee is in various 
stages of progress. 

Buildings Constructed at Dhanuskoti 
for repatriates from Sri Lanka 

2438. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will 
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI- 
LITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether some buildings were con- 
structed at Dhanuskoti in Rarreshwaram to 
receive the repatriates from Sri Lanka; 

(b) whether ihese buildings arc now 
lying vacant and are not put to any use; 
and 



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, (c) the amount spent for the coostruc- 
Hon of these buildings and whether Govern- 
ment propose to utilise the buildings for 
any other use ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHR1 R. K. 
KHAD1LKAR) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. 

(c) A sum of Rs. 18.78 lakhs was 
sanctioned for the construction of buildings 
and other ancillary items like electricity, 
water supply, internal roads, etc. 

The question of utilising these buildings 
is being examined in consultation with the 
State Government. 

Release of Indian Property Captured by 
Pakistan during 1965 

2439. SHRI R. S. PANDEY . Will the 
Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 
pleaded to state : 

(a) whether Government have taken up 
with Pakistan the question of release of 
Indian prope-ty confiscated by Pakistan 
during the 1965 Indo-Pakistan conflict; 
and 

(b) if so, the steps taken so far and 
the results achieved therefrom ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) and 
(b). The matter has been taken up with 
the Government of Pakistan on a number 
of occasions without any positive results. 
The Government will however continue to 
pursue it. 

Setting up of a Joint Council of trade 
Unions for workers' participation 
in production of I. I. S. Co. 

2440. SHRI K. BALADHANDAYU- 
THAM : Will the Minister of STEEL AND 
MINES be pleased to state. 

(a) whether the AH-India Trade Union 
Congress has demanded that a Joint Council 
of Trade Unions (as in Durgapur Steel 
plant) should be set up in Burnpur for 
Inducting workers* participation in Indian 
Iron and steel Company's production from 
the top to the shop level; and 


(b) if so Government* decision thereon? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): (a) Yes, 
Sir. 

(b) This is an issue within the purview 
of the Plan Management. 

Non-Compliance of Employee's Provi- 
dent Funds Act in Public 
Undertakings. 

2441. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: 
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Public Sector Under- 
takings have been showing a sign of non- 
compliance of the Employees’ Provident 
Funds Act and tfie Scheme all over India; 
if so, the details of each such unit, in each 
region; 

(b) whether Regional Commissioners 
and Assistant Commissioners do not visit 
Public Sector Undertakings personally and 
offer clarifications to them with the result 
that lot of mis-understanding persists regar- 
ding investment, settlement of claim and 
grant of loans tc the members; and 

(c) whether Government propose to 
issue instructions to the various Regional 
Commissioners and Assistant Commissioners 
to visit Public Sector Undertakings persona- 
lly and check up their accounts so that 
marked improvement in compliance could 
be secured ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R K KHAD1L- 
KAR) ,The Provident Fund Authorities have 
intimated as under ;• 

(a) Information is not readily available 
and is being collected, 

(b) and (c). No such large scale misun- 
derstandings have been brought to notice. 
Establishments covered under the Emplo- 
yees' Provident Funds and Family Pension 
Fund Act, 1952 including Public Sector 
Undertakings are being visited by the Regi- 
onal Provident Fund Commissioners and 
other officers as and when found necessary 



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in the interest cf smooth administration and 
effective compliance by such establishments. 
Instructions have also been issued to all 
Regional Provident Fund Commissioners 
from time to time to take effective steps for 
securing compliance from Public Sector 
Undenakings. 

Implementation of Employees’ Provi- 
dent Funds Act in Mysore 

2442 SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASFRI : 
will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHA- 
BILITATION be pleased to state; 

(a) whether Government arc aware that 
there is large scale evasion in the implemen- 
tation of Employees’ Provident Funds Act 
in the region of Mysore in a such as the 
factories and mines rave not been covered 
with retrospective dates when they were 
covcrable, with the result that employees 
have been deprived of the benefit of mem- 
bership of Provident Funt for a period 
ranging from 10 to 12 years; 

(b) whether Government propose to 
reopen all such cases and cover them again 
w'lth retrospective dates so that the harm 
done to the workers could be still undone; and 

(c) the steps being contemplated in this 
regard ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K KHADIL- 
KAR) : The Provident Fund authoiities 
have furnished the following information:— 

(a) No. Only one such case has come to 
the not ce of the Central Provident Fund 
Commissioner. 

(b) and (c) Su t ble in t uctions have 
been issued by the Central Provident Fund 
Commissioner to the Regional Commissoner 
Mysore to ensure that the establ shment is 
covered from the correct date, retrospec- 
ts ely if necessary, in accordance with the 
orders and instructions issued on the 
subject. 

Introduction of Employees Provident 

Fund in Mica, Fireclay and China- 
Clay Mines in Bihar 

2443. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRli 


Will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHA- 
BILITATION be pleased to state: 

(a) whether Government are aware that 
large number of mica mines in the District 
of Hazaribagh and fire-clay mines in Dhan- 
bad District and china-clay mines in the 
Smghbhum District have not been covered 
because they are inaccessible; and 

(b) if so, the action taken in getting 
them surveyed and covered under the Empl- 
oyees Provident Funds Act ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K KHADIL- 
KAR) : (a) and (b) The Piovident Fund 
Authorities have repored that the informa- 
tion is being collected It will be laid on 
the Table of the Sabha in due course. 

Lockout in Mines of Birds Group 
in Hazaribagh 

2444. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRi 
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND REHA- 
BILITATION be pleased to slate: 

(a) whether the mines belonging to the 
Bird-, group in Hazar bagh have declared 
lockout; 

(b) whether theie was a police firing on 
the striking workers; and 

(e) if so, the cause of the sirike and 
actions taken in the matter ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHAD1L- 
KAR) (a) Yes, Saunda *D’ Colliery of 
Messrs Karanpura Collie les Limited in 
Hazaribagh was undfcr lockout, which was 
lifted on 24th July, 1972; 

(b) The police had to open fire cn a 
crowd of striking workers of the Sirka Coll- 
iery and villagers; 

(c) Following the arrest of the Presi 
dent and (he Branch Secretary of the Coal 
Workers’ Union, there was strike in Siika 
Colliery. The cause of action of the strike, 
being a subject matter of law and order, 
falls with-in the jurisdiction of the State 
Government. 



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SRAVANA 26, 1894 (SAJCA) 


Written Answers 98 


Effect of U. 8* Economic Recession 
on Foreign Students 

2446 SHRI JYOTTRMOY BOSU: Will 
the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state: 

(a) whether his attention has been drawn 
to the news-item published in The States- 
man, Calcutta, dated the 3rd July, 1972, page 
7, under the caption “Foreign Students in 
USA hit by economic recession”; 

(b) if so, Government’s reaction there- 
to; and 

(c) what action, if any, is being taken 
on this issue ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) (a) Yes, 
Sir. 

(b) and (c). It would not be proper for 
Government to comment on internal econo- 


mic developments in other countries. While 
it is part of the duties of our Missions to 
look after the welfare of Indian nationals 
abroad, there is not much that can be done 
to provide assistance in situations of the 
type mentioned in the news item. 

Earnings and Productivity of 
Factory Workers 

2447. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Will 
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI- 
LITATION be pleased to state the State- 
wise, productivity, money earnings and real 
earn ngs of factory workers drawing less 
than Rs. 400/- per month, during 1960-61, 
1968-69 and 1970-71 or 1969-70? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K, KHADIL- 
KAR) : The attached stat ment gives the 
State- wise index numbers of money earnings 
for the years 1962, 1968, 1969 and 1970 and 
the index numbers of real earnings on an 
all-India basis for the same years. Similar 
information in respect of productivny is 
not available. 


S tatement 

Index Number of Money Earnings of Employees In Manufacturing Industries 
drawing less than Rs 400 /- per month by States for the 
years 1962 . 1968 to 1970 . 


SI. States/Union Index Number of Money Earnings (Base 1961 =100) 


No. 

Territories 

1962 

1968 

1969 

1970 (P) 

i 

2 

3 

4 

5 

6 

1 . 

Andhra Pradesh 

104 

155 

177 

182 

2. 

Assam 

85 

137 

149 

152 

3. 

Bihar 

97 

134 

135 

148 

4. 

Gujarat 

105 

165 

164 

175 

5. 

Himachal Pradesh 

159 

205 

182 

182 

6. 

Kerala 

108 

175 

199 

199 

7. 

Madhya Pradesh 

108 

148 

151 

158 

8. 

Maharashtra 

106 

157 

167 

167 

9. 

Mysore 

93 

156 

155 

155 

10. 

Orissa 

103 

152 

174 

216 


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1972 

Written Answers 100 

1 2 

3 

4 

5 

6 

11. Punjab* 

110 

161 

189 

201 

12. Rajasthan 

172 

261 

265 

265 

13. Tamil Nadu 

107 

156 

165 

165 

14. Uttar Pradesh 

109 

171 

176 

18 

15. West Bengal 

106 

170 


94 

Union Territories : — 





16. Andaman & Nicobar Islands 

106 

148 

166 

179 

17. Delhi 

110 

166 

181 

172 

All-India Index of 

Money Earnings. 

106 

160 

171 

175 

All India Consume; Price 

Index Numbers (Base Shifted 
to 1961-100). 

103 

171 

169 

178 

All-India Index of 

Real Earnings. 

103 

94 

101 

98 

*As it existed prior to reorganisation. 



(P)- 

Provisional. 

Note — 1 . The figures relating to Index 

of Money Earmngs 

exclude those for Railway 


Workshops and Groups of Industries seasonal in character consisting of Food, 
Beverages, Tobacco and Gins and Presses but include Defence Installations. 

2. Index Numbers of Money Eearnings in respect of other States/Union Territories 
are not being compiled as the basic data for the year 1961 was not available. 

Source : Annual Returns under the Payment of Wages Act, 1936. 


Final Report of Expert Committee on 
Unemployment 

2448. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: 

SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN : 

Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether the Expert Committee on 
Unemployment has since submitted its final 
report by Bow; 

(b) if so, the broad recommendations 
thereof; and 

(c) the decisions taken thereon and the 
decisions taken on its earlier report ? 


THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL- 
KAR) : (a) No. 

(b) and (c). Do not arise. 

Setting up of a Corporation for Utilisation 
of Nickel Ore in Orissa 

2449. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- 
GRAHI : Will the Minister of STEEL AND 
MINES be pleased to state : 

(a) whether any progress has been made 
so far in setting up of a Corporation for 
utilisation of nickel ore found in Sukhinda 
area in Orissa; and 

(b) if so, the main features thereof? ' 



ill Written Answers SRAVANA 26, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 102 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, whether these statements 

MINISTRY OF STEEL & MINES (SHRI come within the breach of Simla Agreements. 
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) and (b). The and 
Central Government and the State Govern- 
ment of Orissa have agreed to set up a (c) the reaction of Government in the 

Corporation for the development of Sukhinda matter ? 

Nickel Deposits in District Cuttack, Orissa, 

with the former having 51% shares and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 

latter having 49% shares in it. Action is MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 

now in hand for undertaking pilot plant (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) 

scale tests before a detailed project report Government have seen reports to this 

for the commercial exploitation of the effect, 

deposit is drawn up. Steps are also being 

taken to appoint an Officer on Special Duty (b) and (c). Under paragraph 4 (ii) of 

to handle liasion and coordination work the Simla Agreement, India and Pakistan 

between various agencies. A separate corpo- have bilaterally agreed to respect the line 

ration will be set up after getting more of control in Jammu and Kashmir which 

detailed information about the nature and came into effect on 17-12-1972, not to 

extent of this Project. alter it unilaterally, and to refrain from 

the threat or the use of force in violation 

Non-Payment of Wages to Mica Mine of it. Any statements made in contravention 

Workers at Kaderma and of this would be against the spirit of the 

Jhumaritilaiya Simla Agreement. 

"450. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will The UNMOGIP was established speci- 

the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI- fically with reference to the old 1949 

LITATION be pleased to state : ceasefire line which has no validity any 

longer. The U.N.Observers have, there- 

(a) whether thousands of Mica mine fore, no role to play in Jammu and 

workers at Koderma and Jhumaritilaiya are Kashmir. 

on the verge of death by starvation due to 

non-payment of their wages by mine owners; Indo- Yugoslav Talks 

and 

2452. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : 

(b) if so, the steps Government have Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 

been taken in the matter ? be pleased to state : 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND (a) whether attention of Government 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R K. KHADIL- has been drawn to a statement made by the 

KAR) : (a) and (b) : information is being Yugoslav President Tito to a banquet 

collected, hosted by him in honour of the President. 

Shri Giri, suggesting the convening of a 
Pakistan’s Views Re: tbe Role summit of the non-aligned countries; 

of U. N. Observers in * 

Kashmir (b) if so, the nature thereof; and 

2451. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: (c) the reaction of Govenment to this 

SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERM A: suggestion 7 

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL THE DEPUTY MlNISFtR IN THE 
AFFAIRS be plesed to state : MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 

(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) and 

(a) whether Government are aware of (b). President Tito, in his speech at the 

the Pakistani move for a continuing role banquet given in honoui of our President 

for the United Nations observers in Kashmir on July 5, 197"', had generally referred to 

and 'conflicting statements on Kashmir by the need for an “intensified activity by non- 

Pakistani politicians in recent days; aligned countries 9 ’ in order to continue 



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AUGUST 17, 1972 


Written Answers 104 * 


the positive trends in international relations. 
However, no specific proposal has been 
made for the convening of a non-aligned 
Summit. 

(c) Government would abide by the 
consensus reached at the Meeting of Foreign 
Ministers of non-aligned Countries at 
Georgetown about the holding ot a Non- 
aligned Summit Meeting. 

Coal Mines Provident Fund Arrears 
with Coal Mine Owners 

2453. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : 

SHRI R. N. SHARMA : 

Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government are aware of 
the increasing default on the part of the 
coal mine-owners to pay their share to the 
Coal Mines Provident Fund; 

(b) if so, the steps taken by Govern- 
ment to recovei the arrears fiom the 
employers; and 

(c) whether any prosecutions have 
been launched against the defaulting emplo- 
yers; if so, the number of cases filed so 
far ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL- 
KAR) : The Coal Mines Provident authori- 
ties have reported as under 

(a) Yes. 

(b) (i) Legal action by way of pro- 
secution and recovery proceedings 
is generally taken against defaul- 
ting employers under the Coal 
Mines Provident Fund, Family 
Pension and Bonus Schemes Act, 
1948. 

(ii) Complaints are also lodged in 
suitable cases under Section 406 
1PC. 

(iii) The State Governments of Bihar, 
West Bengal, Madhya Pradesh and 
Maharashtra have been requested 
to issue instructions to the certi- 


ficate officers for expeditious 
disposal of pending certificate 
cases. 

(iv) The State Governments of Bihar 
and West Begal have been requested 
to appoint Certificate Officers in 
each State to deal exclusively 
with the certificates cases of the 
Coal Mines Provident Fund. 

(v) The question of amending the Coal 
Mines Provident Fund, Family 
Pension and Bonus Schemes Act, 
1948 to provide for more deterrent 
penalties for non-payment of 
provident fund dues is under 
consideration of Government. 

(c) Till the end of March, 1972, the 
following legal action to realise the 
arrears has been taken : — 

(0 Number of prosecution filed 
under the Coal Mines Pro- 
vident Fund, Family Pension 
and Bonus Schemes Act, 

1948. —3429 

(ii) Number of prosecutions 
filed under Section 406 
I. P. C. — 17 

(in) Number of certificate cases 

filed. —3261 

Interim Report of Bonus 
Review Committee 

2454. DR. RANEN SEN : Will the 
Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILI- 
TATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have asked 
for an interim report from the Bonus 
Review Committee; 

(b) if so, whether Government have 
received this report; and 

(c) the recommendations made and the 
decisions taken on them ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL- 
KAR (a) No, Sir. 



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Written Answers 106 


(b) Goverament have not received any 
interim report. 

(c) Does not arise. 

Oven for Metallurgical Coke invented by 
Central Fuel Research Institute 

2455. DR RANEN SEN : 

SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD 
VERMA : 

Will the Minister of STEEL AND 
MINES be pleased to state : 

(a) whether a special type of oven to 
make metallurgical coke has been invented 
by the Central Fuel Research Institute in 
cooperation with Tata Iron and Steel 
Company; and 

(b) if so, the salient features thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) The 
Central Fuel Research Institute have recently 
claimed to have developed a design for a 
cheap, efficient and highly productive non- 
byproduct recovery coke oven for production 
of metallurgical coke and that based on 
this design, coke oven batte f ies of a total 
capacity of over 200,000 tonnes/year are 
being set up by the Tata Iron and Steel 
Company in their colliery at Sijua 

tb) The salient features, according to 
the Central Fuel Research Insitute, are ; 

(i) The productivity of the new ovens 
is nearly two and a half times as 
much as the conventional beehive 
ovens, which will result in sharp 
decrease in processing costs; 

(ii) The coke is intended to be used in 
the TISCO blast furnaces to meet 
current coke shortage; 

(iii) Unlike conventional beehive ovens, 
it is possible to use a wide range 
and blends of coals in these ovens 
to produce foundry and/or blast 
furnace coke. 


Scrutiny of Agricultural Department’s 
proposal for purchase of Fertilisers 

2456. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR: 
Will the Minister of SUPPLY be pleased to 
state ; 

(a) whether per unit nutrient price of 
European origin ANP fertiliser is less than 
that of DAP and NPK complex fertilizer of 
USA; and 

(b) what facilities the Department of 
Supply have to scrutinize Agriculture 
Department's proposals to purchase fertiliser 
from various sources ? 

THE MINISTER OF SUPPLY (SHRI 
D.R. CHAV AN) : (a) Generally, the price 
per unit of nutrient in DAP is lower than 
that in ANP, while the price per unit of 
nutrient in ANP is lower than that in NPK 
complex fertilizers. However, the quality 
of nutrients available from ANP is inferior 
to that ayailab'e from DAP. 

(b) It is the responsibility of the 
Department of Agriculture to determ ne the 
programme for the import of fertilizers to 
be imported and the delivery schedules for 
such imports. The Department of Agricul- 
ture do not indicate the various sources 
from which the fertilisers should be pur- 
chased except where purchases have to be 
made against the credits available from 
different countries. 

Captive Mines of Ores for Steel Produc- 
tion by Bokaro Steel Plant 

2458. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH 
RAO : Will the Minister of STEEL AND 
MINES be pleased to state : 

(h) whether the Bokaro Steel PUnt 
will not have captive mines of ores for steel 
production; 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; and 

(c) the safeguards provided to ensure 
that the Bokaro Steel Plant receives its full 
requirements of ores at competitive rates ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) At 



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AUGUST 17, 1972 


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the present moment, BokarO Steel Plant has 
no captive sources of iron ate or manganese 
ore. 

(b) and (c). It is not essential that 
every steel plant should have captive ore 
nrnes. Iron ore for the first stage of 
Bokaro Steel Plant will be supplied by 
Kiriburu Mines which are managed and 
operated by the National Mineral Develop- 
ment Corporation Limited, a public sector 
concern. As the expension of Kiriburu is 
still not comple e, iron ore fines required 
for Bokaro Steel Plant are now being 
procured from other sources. No difficulty 
is envisaged in ensuring adequate supply of 
iron ore from Kiriburu at prices fair to 
both NMDC and BSL. Manganese ore is 
now being purchased from the Minerals and 
Metals Trading Corporation Limited. 
Bokaro Steel Limned has recently acquired 
mining lease of certain areas for raising 
manganese ore and theie may ultimately 
become the main sources of the ore. 

Employees State Insurance Hospitals 

2459. SHRI BHOLA MANJHI : Will 
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI- 
LITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) how many Employees State Insura- 
nce Hospitals are now functioning in the 
country; 

(b) the total bed strength of these 
hospitals; and 

(c) the plans to open new hospitals in 
the pext three yeais ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL- 
KAR) : The Employees State Insurance 
Corporation has furnished the following 
information ; 

(a) At present 47 Employees State 
Insurance Hospitals are functioning in the 
Country. 

(b) The total bed strength of 47 Emplo- 
yees State Insurance Hospitals is 8,609. 

(c) The Employees State Insurance 
Corporation has provided a sum of about 
Ra.“ 14.5 crores for the construction of 


Employees State Insurance Hospitals, 
Annexes and Dispensaries in the next five 
years. 

Growing Industrial Unrest in Bihar 

2460. KUMARI KAMI A KUMARI : 
W.ll the Minister of LABOUR AND RE- 
HABILITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Industrial uniest is growing 
in Bihar at a very high speed due to exploi- 
tation of workers by the 20 big business 
houses; 

(b) whether Government are going to 
appoint a Committee of Members of Parlia- 
ment to look into the affairs of the 20 
big bus i r ess houses; and 

(c) if so, the time by which it is propo- 
sed to be appointed ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHA- 
D1LKAR): (a) to (c). The Ministry of Lab- 
our have no information on this subject. 

Assessment of Working of Rehabilitation 
Industries Corporation 

2461. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will 
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILI- 
TATION be pleased to Mate : 

(a) whether Government of India have 
made any assessment m regard to the wor- 
king of rehabilitation industries Corpora- 
tion, Calcutta during the last three years; 

(b) whether this Corporation has been 
running at a loss, if so. the reasons thereof; 
and 

(c) the steps taken by Go\ernment to 
improve the drawbacks ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SKRI R.K. KHADIL- 
KAR) : (a) Yes, Sir. 

(b) Yes, Sir. The losses in the Ccrpo- 
ticn arc mainly attributable to 

(i) The five hand loom weaving centres 
taken over from the Government 
of West Bengal, are working as 



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SR WAN A 26, 1894 (SAJCA) 


Written Anthers HO 


factory Units and the workers have 
to be given benefits according to 
the Factories Act as well as bonus. 
The products of these centres also 
do not enjoy the usual 5% rebate 
allowed to handloom products of 
the cooperative sector. 

(ji) Due to the geographical location 
of various units, the Corporation 
incurs considerable expenditure on 
transport, storage and distribution 
of their products. 

(lii) The Corporation has to employ 
displaced persons most of whom 
are inexperienced and have to be 
trained as they work. This leads to 
consequential inherent disadvanta- 
ges. 

(iv) General recession coupled with 
considerable labour unrest during 
the past 3 years, has affected the 
working of the Corporation to an 
appreciable extent. 

(v) High wages, poor labour efficiency 
and productivity and high percen- 
tage of unabsorbed factory over- 
heads also contribute to losses in- 
cured by the Corporation. 

(vi) Heavy floods in September, 1970, 
completely dislocated work in Bon- 
Hooghly area where the Corpora- 
tion’s biggest industrial complex is 
located. Damage to materials alone 
resulted in a loss of Rs. 2.13 
lakhs. 

(vii) Finished textile products worth Rs. 
36.07 lakhs accumulated in the 
stocks due to difficulties explained 
above. The devaluation of this 
huge stock, and interest on capital, 
account for a substantial part of 
the losses. 

(c) The Board of Rehabilitation which 
set up by the Government under the Chair- 
manship of Shri Manubhai Shah was reque- 
sted inter-alla to advise the Government on 
the measures essential for placing the Cor- 
poration on a round economic footing. The 
Board has submitted its report. Subsequent- 


ly, a Departmental Committee was set up to 
enquire into the working of the uneconomic 
Units of the Corporation with a view to loca- 
ting vulnerable points and finding ways and 
means of improving them so as to make 
them commercially viable. The Committee 
has also submitted its report. Both these 
reports are now under examination in con- 
sultation with the other concerned Depart- 
ments etc. 

Economic Cooperation with 
Asian Countries 

2462. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will the 
Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be 
pleased to state : 

(a) whether the scope for enlarging 
Indians trade and economic cooperation 
with the various countries of Asia was dis- 
cussed at a meeting of the Heads of the 
Indian Missions in Asian countries with 
representatives of the Federation of Indian 
Chambers of Commerce and Industry on 
the 12th April, 1972; 

(b) if so, the outcome of the talks: and 

(c) Government's reaction thereto ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDFR PAL SINGH) ; (a) Yes, 
Sir; On 13th April, 1972. 

(b) Problems relating to expansion of 
India’s economic ties with the region as a 
whole, as also with individual countries were 
identified and practical suggestions towards 
this end given by the Federation of Indian 
Chamber of Commerce and Industry as 
well as the Heads of Indian Missions, are 
being studied and pursued by the Govern- 
ment. 

(c) Government feels that this is an 
opportune moment to make serious efforts 
for strengthening trade and economic co- 
operation between India and other Aslan 
countries, and intends to make every effort 
to give concrete shape to the many useful 
ideas that ’ were discussed between the 
Federation of Indian Chamber of Commerce 
and 1 Industry and the Heads of Indian 
Missions. 



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AUGUST 17, 1972 


Written Answers 112 


Rehabilitation of Families displaced 
due to Establishment of Steel 
Plant at Visakhapatnam 

2463. SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA : 
Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 
be pleased to state : 

(a) the total number of families to be 
displaced by the establishment of steel plant 
at Visakhapatnam; and 

(b) the proposals to rehab. litatc these 
displaced perons ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE: 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) At 
this stage it is not possible to make a precise 
assessment of the number of families likely 
to be displaced by the acquisition of land 
for the Visakhapatnam Steel Project, as this 
would be subject to the area of land which 
is finally acquired. 

(b) Proposals for rehabilitation of the 
persons who would be displaced will be 
drawn up by the Government of Andhra 
Pradesh in consultation with the Ministry 
of Steel and Mines. 

Control of Ferrous and non-ferrous 
Scrap Trade through M M.T C. 

2464. SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA : 
Will the Minister of STEFL AND 
MINES be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have decided 
to control the ferrous and non-ferrous scrap 
trade through the Minerals and Metals 
Trading Corporation; and 

(b) if so, the sal ent features thereof ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEFL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) and 
(b). At present there is no statutory control 
on price or distribution of ferrous and non- 
ferrous scrap trade. At present, the import 
of iton-ferrous scrap is arranged through 
Minerals & Metals Trading Corporation and 
the import of ferrous scrap is canalised 
through Minerals & Metals Trading Corpo- 
ratlon/Metal Scrap Trade Corporation. 
Export of ferrous scrap is also canalised 
through Metal Scrap Trade Corporation. 


Ban on Entry of Indian into U. K. 

246L SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA : 
Will the Minister of EXTERNAL 
AFFAIRS be pleased to state ; 

(a) whether Government’s attention has 
been drawn to the reports regarding the 
refusal to the Indian parents to enter 
Britain even to attend the wedding of their 
sor.s; and 

(b) if so, the reaction of Government ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PaL SINGH): (a) Yes, 
Sir. 

(b) Government naturally regret needless 
hardships caused to innocent visitors to 
Britain. However, in the case of Shrimati 
Achro Malhi, wh ch has been widely reported 
in the press, the British view is that she 
sought entry into UK by misrepresenting 
facts. She is alleged to have told the immi- 
gration officer at London airport that she 
wished to settle permanently in U.K. Further- 
more, her earlier appl cation for an entry 
certificate at the British High Commission 
in New Delhi had been refused. She had 
then changed her passport and sought entry 
into UK without an entry certificate. She 
claimed that she had gone theie to attend 
her son’s marriage. The immigration autho- 
rities offered to let the marriage be per- 
formed in the detention centre where she 
was held. The offer was declined, and 
Shrimati Malhi was returned to India on 
20th July, 1972. 

Government would have wished to see 
this case handled with greater humanity. 

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Building of Sulphuric Acid Plant in 
Bhilai Steel Plant 

2467. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: 
Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 
be pleased to state: 

(a) whether there is a proposal to build 
a sulphuiic acid plant at the Bhilai Steel 
Plant; 

(b) if so. the total production capacity 
of the plant; and 

(c) the total expendituie involved 7 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STELL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): (a) Yes, 
Sir. 

(b) 55 Tonnes per day expressed as JflO% 
Concentration Acid. 

(c) The plant is being installed on a 
turnkey basis at a quoted price of Rs. 77 48 
lakhs including £15,650 of foieign exchange. 

Indo-Poli&h talks regarding I. C. C. 
in Vietnam 

2468. SHRI C. K, CHANDRAPPAN' 
Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
be pleased to state: 

(a) whether during his recent visit to 
Poland he had discussion with tht Polish 
leaders regarding the fUtu-e of the Interna- 
tional Control Commission in Vietnam; and 

(b) if so, the nature thereof ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
, MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 


(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH): (a) Yes, 
Sir. 

(b) These discussions are of a confi- 
dential nature and it would not be in public 
• interest to disclose their contents. 

Opening of New Embassies 

2469. SHRI D. P JADEJA : 

SHRI VEKARIA : 

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL 
/ FFA1RS be pleased to state: 

(a) whether Government are considering 
to upgrade the existing and open new Emba- 
ssies in South and Central America; and 

(b) if so, when and in which country ? 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH); (a) Yes, 
Sir. 

(b) It has been decided to set up an 
Embassy m Panama. The question of opening 
some more Missions and upgrading others 
is under consideration. 

Difficulties faced by Indians in 
Central America 

2470. SHRI D P JADEJA: Will the 
Minuter of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be plea- 
sed to slate 1 

(s0 whether Government have received 
anv complaints from Indian ciii?ens residing 
in Central American countries regarding 
delay in passport renewals; and 

(bj if so, the reaction of Go\ernment 
theieto ?, 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) No, 
Sir. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Steel Distribution Policy for Small 
Scale Industries 

2471. G. Y. KRISHNAN : Will the 
Minister of STEEL AND MINES be p eased 
to state: 



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(a) whether the present steel distribu- 
tion poley of Government Is not beneficial 
to the small scale industries; and 

(b) if so, what steps Government have 
proposed to ractify the position ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) It is 
not coirect that the piesent steel distribu- 
tion policy is not beneficial to the Small 
Scale Industries. 

(b) Does not arise. 

Delay in completion of Sudamdih 

and Moindih Projects of National 
Coal Development Corporation 

2472 SHRI MUKHT1AR SINGH 
MALIK : Will the Minister of STEEL AND 
MINES be pleased to state : 

(a) whather delay in the completion of 
Sudamdih and Moindih projects of National 
Coal Development Corporation has been 
reported: and 

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN)- (a) Yes, 
Sir. 

(b) The main reasons for the slow 
progress of the projects arc the delay in 
receipt of vital indigenous equipment by the 
projects as well as a general shortage of 
Iron and Steel. Some imported equipment 
was impounded by Pakistan during the 1965 
war. Difficult Geological conditions inclu- 
ding the presence of gas & under ground 
hot water have also been responsible for 
delay in the completion of Sudamdih project 
Power supply has also been subject to hea\y 
interruptions. 

Non-aligned Nations Conference 

2473. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH 
MALIK : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL 
AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 

(a) whether there is a move to have 
non-aligned nations summit in the near 
future; and 


(b) if so, the subjects proposed to be 
discus'.ed in the summit and the name of 
the country where the summit is likely to 
be held ’ 

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFX1RS 
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH,: (a) Yes, 
Sir, in 1973. 

(b) The subjects to be discussed will be 
decided in consultations to be held to prep- 
are foi the Summit meeting. The Summit 
meeting is proposed to be held in Algiers. 

Casual Labourers in Public Undertakings 

2474. SHRI HAR1 KISHORE SINGH: 
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to state: 

(a) the number of Casual Labour work- 
ing at present in Government Undertakings, 

(b) whethe there is any proposal under 
consideration of Government to regularise 
there services; 

(O the number of casual labourers 
who>e sei vices have been regularised during 
the last one year; and 

(d) the time by which the remaining 
persons will be regularised ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- 
KAR) (a) to (d). The information asked 
for relates to both the Central and State 
Government undertakings and is not readily 
available. 

Import of Steel 

2475. SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH : 

SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA : 

Will the Minister of STEEL AND 
MINES be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government have any 
proposal under consideration to import 
steel from foreign countries; 

(b) if so, the quantity and value of 
steel likely to be impoited during the years 
1972-73 and 1973-74; and 



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(c) the names of the countries from 
where the import will be made and for 
whom the import will be made ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) to (c). 
Import of steel is made by the canalising 
agencies/Actual Users/Registered Exporters 
or their nominees/Export Houses. Imports 
are being allowed in accordance with the 
Import Policy for all categories, where the 
material is not adequately availab’e 
indigenously. The quantum of import 
depends upon the demand for steel, 
indigenous availability of steel and the 
availability of foreign exchange. No 
precise estimate of quantity and value of 
the steel likely to be imported during 1 972- 
73 and 1973-74 can be given at present. 
However, it is anticipated that imports 
will be around 1 0 million tonnes 
in 1972-73 and less in 1973 74, 
particularly if domestic production shows 
substantial increases in 1972-73. 

The countries from which steel isi impor- 
ted depend upon the sou ice of foreign 
exchange and availability of right type of 
material. Generally steel imports are from 
Japan, U.K., U S A , USSR, Holland, 
Poland, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, 
Hungary, Belgium, France. East and West 
Germany. 

Change in the Procedure ot indenting 
and Distribution of Iron 
and Steel 

2476. SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH : 
will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 
be pleased to state : 

(a) whether Government propose to 
revise the system of indenting and distri- 
bution of Iron and Steel in the country; 

(b) if so, the salient features thereof; 
and 

(c) the steps taken to regulate the 
disiribution and sale of defective cuttings, 
re-rollable and other scraps ? 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF SLEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) The 


revised system of indenting and distri- 
bution was notified on 7th April, 1971. 
There is no proposal at present to revise it 
further. 

(b) Dots not arise, 

(c) The Joint Plant Committee 
regulates distribution of all such materials 
ans:ng at the Plants through the Stockyards 
of the Main Producers. 

Construction of Salem Steel Plant 

2477. SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH: 
Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 
be pleased to state: 

(a) whether the const luction work of 
the Salem Steel Plant has been going accor- 
ding to the schedule; 

^b) if not, the reasons thereof; and 

(c) the total amount spent so far on 
the construction of this plant and the time 
by which it will start functioning and total 
amount likely to be invested in this project ** 

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) Woik 
of preliminary site preparation has already 
commenced at Salem. 

(b) Does not arise. 

(c) So far, approximately Rs. 70 lakhs 
have been spent on various activit es inclu- 
ding expenditure towards land acquisition 
It is expected that the Plant would be 
commissioned bv 1977-78 The total capital 
outlay, presently estimated by the Consul- 
tants at about Rs. 340 crores, is under 
exmination. 

Exploitation of Iron Ore of Malangtoli 

2478. SHRI BANAMALI PATNAIK: 
Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES 
be pleased to state: 

(a) whether any steps have been taken 
to step up the exploitation of iron ore at 
Malangtoli; and 

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THE MINISTER OF St ATE IN THE 
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 
(SHR1 SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): (a) and (b). 
A Study Group has been constituted to 
consider, among others, the development of 
Malangtoli iron ore deposits. The report of 
the Study Group is awaited. 

Survey of Respiratory Diseases among 

Coal Miners in Dhanbad-Jharia Coal 
Fields 

2479. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: 

SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD 
VERMA: 

Will the Minister of LABOUR AND 
REHABILITATION be pleased to state : 

(a) whether a survey conducted in the 
Dhanbad-Jharia coalf, elds has revealed thdt 
a majority of the coal mneis develop 
respiratory diseases after working for cer- 
tain time; and 

(b) whether full report of the survey his 
since been received and what steps have been 
taken to protect the miners from such 
diseases ? 

THE MINISTER OF LABUOR AND 
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL- 
KAR) : (a) and (b). A respiratory morbidity 
survey was undertaken jointly by the Rajen- 
dra Memorial Research Institute of Medical 
Sciences, Patna, and the Central Mining 
Research Station, Dhanbad, under the 
guidance of Col. R. Viswanathan, Emeritus. 
Scientist, Vallabhbhai Patel Chest Institute, 
Delhi. The full report of the survey is not 
yet available. 

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